56. Do you think that all of the increased attention in the media of modern muzzleloading (Inlines, saboted bullets, smokeless powder, etc.) is harming the traditional muzzleloading shooting?
| Yes! | (36) | 75% |
| No! | (9) | 19% |
| Undecided. | (3) | 6% |
YOUR COMMENTS:
I think that anything that gets a person started shooting black powder is good. A certain amount of the inline folks will evolve into more traditional pursuits. The ones that don't probably would not have become involved anyway. To go forward in the sport
Getting people interested in muzzle loading helps people find out that us traditional people are out here
Sure it is! Manufacturers are selling by any means they can. They don't care that their product doesn't live up to the hype. As long as they have convinced one person, or paid for endorsements. "Joe Sap" won't admit he's been taken down the trail. Most inlines are bought just to extend seasons for those not good enough to get game their usual ways.
Everything but sidelock action and blackpowder should be used in modern gun seasons only!!!!!
I feel as though it gives young people, as well as those who "don't know" a false sense of what Muzzleloading is, and should be.
NO-It was the purchase of a cheap plastic stocked rifle that got me started. Modern BP rifles-the gateway drug to traditional rifles!
I chose undecided because in some ways I think it has hurt and in some ways I think it has helped. I know of two hunters who became hooked on muzzleloader hunting (modern inlines) due to the challenge of single shot hunting and then , desiring even more challenge, became traditional round ball hunters and just love it.
YES SIR! the new gimicks are bad for traditional muzzleloading. The bozos in government will want to step in to restrict our hobby.
Yes.....because of the hype about taking big game out to 150 yds. there are going to be a lot of wounded anamals out there. also with all the highpower hype the atf is probably going to start looking at these guns a little bit closer.
I see it as a no brainer, those who shoot the modern stuff are capitalizing on the fact that they don't have to use the primitive type guns if the modern option was not there then they would have to use the "traditional" type now it is quite possible that with out the modern option many would not partake of the sport but there would still be more people useing the traditional type than at present. Also, most of the promotional hype used to push the new stuff is absolute caw-caw but is taken as the gospel because well known gunwriters and manufactures are the ones spreading it...TG
The inlines get many people interested in muzzleloading. Over time the inline shooters will pay attention to the traditional side of muzzleloading.
It's a major contributing factor. I saw a show a couple years back in which the host was demonstrating, with the help of Toby Bridges, how muzzleloaders work. GREAT! I thought , They went sort of ho-hum through the stages of loading and shooting flint and percussion guns, then Mr. Bridges brought out a Knight rifle and stated, "Now here is a real muzzleloader." Then they proceded to show how much more accurate(sure, it had a scope on it) and easy to clean it was and said all the rest are for looking at but this is for hunting. Made me sick.
All the attention is splintering the community of BP shooters, the old saying of "divide and conquer" comes to mind, media attention brings attention from the anti's and we don't need that at all!!!
Personally I don't and let me explain why I feel that way: 1) Only certain people are going to be attracted to traditional forms of muzzleloading and they will be attracted to it no matter what else is going on in the muzzleloading industry; 2) As more products are made that entice people to even try muzzleloading in the first place, it can only help the overall sport of muzzleloading...otherwise it would continue to wither and die on the vine right along with those of us that are in our twilight years already; 3) The first items I've listed then contribute to a continued flow of new people into traditional muzzleloading and I and my Son are real examples of it...knew nothing about muzzleloading until the Knight inline rifle craze exploded in the 80's and I saw it as an interesting technology to try, and get an extra week of Deer season at the same time; Then after getting into it with an MK-85, I began to read and learn about muzzleloading in general, got interested in more traditional looking rifles, bought my first TC Hawken percussion, now I'm transitioning into flintlocks, etc; In summary, there is strength in numbers...if another million people start shooting inlines this year it won't take anything away from me and I promise a percentage of them will gradually transition into traditional stuff that would not have otherwise taken the step at all...Bill/NC PS: I do agree that inlines do not fit the spirit and intent of "primitive weapons" seasons and should not be allowed during primitive weapons seasons, Bill/NC
I feel that most of the Inline shooters are the leftovers from the gun season & are generally slob hunters. They will shoot at anything at any distance for any reason & generally are a bad influence for all aspects of hunting. I have yet to see a Serious inline shooter & by this I mean a guy that go to the range regularly & shoots it & etc. I am sure there are a few that do & there are a few exceptional good inline hunters, but they are few & far between. It is unfortunate that some of the states made their special deer season a Muzzleloader season rather than a Primitive Weapon season as it was intended to be. Just the wrong word in the right place sure changes things in this day & age. I think they should ban the Inline from the ML & Primitive weapon seasons & if they are to be used, be used in the rifle season. If this happened, in a year I think you would not see a single Inline out there hunting. Thats is how dedicated shooters I think the inline shooters are.
I think it could, particularly without valid information to fall back on. When the smokeless first came out, I was dead set against it without even giving it another thought. Then I got to studying that although the smokeless has been invented, we will always hear of ignorant people doing ignorant things and the best way to combat ignorance is through education. So I'm learning more about them in hopes of teaching others.-mamaflinter
Primitive ML seasons were designed for primitive type muzzleloaders, and that is the way it should remain. If the inlines have a place in muzzleloading at all, it should be for target shooting and to hunt during the general rifle season. As for smokeless powder, I don't care what Savage says about their ML being safe to use with it, I still think it is a lawsuit waiting to happen.
The results of June 15, 2002's poll from Trapper Gene
57. With patches, I primarily……..
| Cut patches at the muzzle | (27) | 51% |
| Use pre-cut round | (21) | 40% |
| Use pre-cut square | (5) | 9% |
The results of June 22, 2002's poll from Trapper Gene
58. Do you use a horn, flask, other, etc. to load from?
| Flask | (8) | 14% |
| Horn | (20) | 36% |
| Prepared charges in tubes | (4) | 7% |
| Paper cartridges | (1) | 2% |
| Other | (5) | 9% |
| Different combo for each situation. | (18) | 32% |
The results of June 29, 2002's poll from Trapper Gene
59. Do you think a 42" barrel is more difficult to hunt with than a shorter one?
| Yes! | (18) | 35% |
| No! | (20) | 39% |
| Undecided | (10) | 20% |
| Don't know because I don't hunt. | (3) | 6% |
The results of July 6, 2002's poll from Doug\Va.
60. If building a new muzzleloader, it would be a….
| Round ball shooter | (59) | 94% |
| Conical shooter | (4) | 6% |