OK, y'all... I guess I'm not having my other OP... I'll go ahead and get started...
 Ok, y'all... here are the rules for the class....
 Please, do not make comments, ask questions, or anything else, in open channel...
 If you have a question, type @ and I will call on you.
 If you want to greet someone, /msg them
 There will be a question and answer period at the end, too...
 If we split, I will wait a minute or two for everyone to get back together...
 If it looks to be a LONG split, I'll go on and the splitters can get the logs...
 Doing rules and regs now, draven... you're just in time.
 Logs will be available in a day or two...
 OK, now, if we're all clear on the rules, let's get going...
 The first thing I want to discuss is tools. 
 Every beginning witch I know (myself at that time, too) was 
  TERRIBLY worried about tools. Not having them, not having the right ones, not using them right, what to do if you DIDN'T have them.....
 News flash..... YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE ALL THE FANCY TOOLS 
  TO DO MAGICK!!!!!
 (Sorrry if that sounds rude, but it's the only way to put it...)
 YES, tools are nice. I love having all the pretty incense burners, votive candles, athame, silver chalice, etc. 
 But you don't need them.
 Tools are there to FOCUS your energy, not create it.
 The first tool to talk about is the athame. 
[22:41]  @so in order to have powers you dont have to have them
 (For those that don't understand any of the tools, /msg me and I'll send you my tools class...)
 Chasity, in order to do magick you don't have to have the 
  tools...... but next time, please wait for me to call on you....
 The athame is a tool that is used to direct energy out.
 You've ALL (unless you're an amputee, and I apologize for the generalization if you are) have a perfect substitute for the athame... your hand.
 Your hand, the projective one (the hand you write with) can be used to send out energy just as well as your athame.
[22:45]  @
 It's also more portable, and has the advantage of NOT being 
  forbidden in some places (i.e. schol, jobs, etc.)
 Yes, Chasity?
[22:45]  what is an athame
 It's in the class I just sent you... it's a ritual knife.
 The next one's one I hear VERY frequently..... colored candles....
 If you want to do something, and the candles you have don't 
  match what you need, don't fret!
 What I usually do is buy LOTS of white candles when I see them on sale.
 I have boxes of embrodery floss, and what I do is wrap a piece of it around the candle, so that the candle has a very thin ring of color all around it... you don't have to cover the candle, just spiral it around so that there's an inch or so between the loops.... it works great.
 Your candle is colored, and you don't have to worry!
 If you can't do that, try crayons on it, or magic markers.... anything that will color your candle.
[22:52]  @
 Yes, MoonMagick?
[22:53]  How many colours of candles are there?
 Moon.... there are TONS of them.....
[22:53]  Used spacifically in magick?
 If you need an index of candle colors, or just a good table of correspondances, I've got the URL of a good site.
 http://nebula.ispace.com/~hatchett/raven.html
[22:54]  Thank you
 It's all drawn from Cunningham, and it's very complete and very good.
 Next common question is 'What do I do if I don't have the right crystals?"
 Frankly, I don't use gems very often.... bloodstone, agate and garnet (occasionally rose quartz, clear quartz and amythyst) are the only ones I ever use.
 What you do, if you don't have what you need, is twofold.
 If you've got clear quartz, you can charge it for what you want. This also works if you've got a similar stone to what you want.... you play with what you want to do to fit the materials....
 Or... you just forget about the stones, and use other materials.
 You never HAVE to ahve a particular stone... they help, but 
  they're not necessary.
 Oils, incense and herbs are similar.
[23:01]  @
 You can use things that are SIMILAR, but not exactly what you need, for them as well.
 Yes, MagusBlue?
 (Sorry for the pause... helping someone in private.....)
[23:02]  Am I right when I think that this is very subtle and not real showy like conjuring up storms? It's like... influencing people and gradual  change?
 Magus..... magick is the shifting or nudging of powers..... if a storm was needed, but wasn't going to happen RIGHT THERE, is't possible to make one happen. Influencing people isn't following the rede.... harming includes acting on someone without their permission/knowledge.
 However, conjuring storms can be quite dangerous, so don't try it if you don't know what you're doing.... don't want to get struck by a stray bolt of lightening, do ya?
[23:05]  Oh, I know about the whatever you do comes back to you 
   thing, but I'm wondering if this is just very slow and subtle...
[23:05]  No...
[23:05]  ; P
[23:05]  Heh
 It can be... or it can be rather dramatic... I have been looking for a parking space, said a quick little 'let me find one' and *poof* there's one right there.... or I can be walking somewhere, and it'll be raining, I'll ask that it slow down raining until I get where I'm going, and it slows to a fine mist, and starts pouring when I get in the house....
[23:06]  Wow.
[23:06]  Not bad.
 And the whatever you do comes back to you thing is called the Threefold Law.
[23:07]  That's it...
[23:07]  It works positively, right?
[23:07]  @
 Yes, it does.... it works for good and bad....
 Yes, darkwhite?
[23:08]  Good... whew! I'm glad the stuff I do'll all come back to me!
[23:08]  do u get good or bad effects back from doing the parking 
   space thing
[23:08]  ie, the karma thing
[23:08]  sorry, that doesn't make sense, does it?
 dark... it's basically neutral.... But if you picture someone coming out of the store and getting into their car and driving off, that's manipulation....
 No, it does.
[23:09]  ohhh ok
 And there are some actions that have such a LITTLE effect they can be considered neutral.
[23:09]  tnx
 NP, that's what I'm here for.
 One thing that I've discovered about oils and incense is that people tend to have one and not the other.
 You can substitute one for the other if you need to.
 If you don't have incense of the right scent, you can drop a few drops of essential oil onto a burning candle... it works well.
[23:11]  thanx
 You can also dip incense sticks into some vegetable oil and then use the oil as you would normally.... this has the advantage of being easy to manipulate, so if you're writing runes/sigils/etc. on something with the oil, you have the incense stick as an applicator....
 Your wand or staff is something else that worries many newbies if they don't have one./
[23:12]  @
 Yes, Alura?
[23:13]  sorry..back on incense...I find that the stick incense sometimes gives me asthma irritations but oil doesn;t
[23:13]  so anyone with that problem could use oils too
 Yes, that would work well.... thanks, Alura!~
[23:13]  @
 Now, personally, I don't se a wand. I have a staff that I use in circle sometimes, but I never use a wand... don't even own one!
 Yes Wolfe?
[23:14]  @
 Crusin, you're next.
[23:14]  I got something to say to help the asthma problem..
 Ok, go ahead.
[23:15]  if you put the oil on anything that will heat up...a light bulb if you us ethem(before you light it, while it is cold) or anything else that will be near heat...the oil will evaporate and will be as much afective as oil
 Yes, thanks, Wolfe!
[23:16]  I mean incence
 Go ahead, Crusin....
  I guessed...
[23:16]  Pls explain threefold law, I got some of it but...
 The threefold law states that everything you do comes back three times.... "Three times bad and three times good"
 Three is the general number.... but I've heard it as seven, one and ten as well.
[23:17]  @
 Yes, Wolfe?
[23:17]  so if you ask for pkg space, etc. you get it good 3x and bad 3x ???
[23:17]  one?
 Crusin.... Like I said, I think that's basically neutral.... I don't know that there's really ANY karma associated with that.
[23:18]  @
[23:18]  thx
 One, Wolfe... I've heard occasionally that your energy isn't 
  multiplied, it's just resent to you.
 Yes, darkwhite
 ?
[23:19]  it'd depend on the people involved...
[23:19]  oh..ok...
[23:19]  crusin
[23:19]  how it affected them etc
 Yes, it would, darkwhite..... it all depends on the situation.
[23:20]  @
 Yes, Wolfe?
[23:20]  wouldn't it depend on how your asking...
 (I'm trying to get back to the topic, so let's make this the last question unless it's directly on the class topic.....)
 Yes, it would...
[23:21]  doesn't it matter...between asking for a parking space or  for a parking space to be shown to me
 You use a wand similarly to how you use an athame, and you 
  use a staff like the first two.
 You can use your hands to represent all three.
[23:23]  fingers work great
 In a circle, you traditionally do the 'cakes and ale' before you close the circle.
 Yes, Eire... but please follow the procedure..... thanks....
[23:24]  @
 The 'traditional' cakes and ale is crescent shaped almond cakes and ale, mead or wine.
 You can substitute almost anything... I used Double-Stuff Oreos and milk at my circle's first ritual!
 Yes, darkwhite?
[23:26]  what's the cakes and ale bit for?
[23:26]  first time i've heard of it...
 Two reasons. First, in ancient times, if you shared a meal with someone, you couldn't hurt them. SO it's a way of saying that none of the people participating will hurt any of the others. 
[23:27]  mmm
 Another is to give thanks for the food that you have, and to ask that you not go hungry before the next ritual.
[23:27]  ok
 Both are a bit antiquated, but they're still in use.
 Another, nore fun reason is so that you can sit around and eat with your circle-sisters and -brothers before you go out into the 'real world'.
[23:28]  @
 Yes, Wolfe?
[23:29]  the cakes and ale thing was explained to me as a way of 
   bring yourself back into the real world
 Wolfe, they function as that, too.. they help some people ground.
[23:29]  ok
 The last tool I want to talk about is your robes.
 Many people have a severe problem if they don't have their robes.
 I personaly haven't gotten robes I like yet.
 What I wear in circles depends on the week.
[23:31]  @
 Most of the time, when I do Esbat rituals, I'm in street clothes.
 Yes, Wolfe?
[23:31]  severe problem....?
[23:32]  what do you mean by that..?
 They get really weird and don't want to do a ritual.... it's like "If I'm not dressed right, I can't do magick"
[23:32]  @
[23:32]  I still don't understand
[23:32]  @
 Some people don't believe that they can do magick right if 
  they're not properly dressed. If they aren't wearing the right things, they don't feel like the gods will listen or something like that.
 Yes, Kimba?
 Dark^Mage, you're next.
[23:33]  np
 Wolfe, I don't understand the mindset, persoannly, so I can't really explain it to you.... all I can say is that I don't think the Gods/Goddesses really CARE what you're wearing.....
[23:34]  What is esbat rituals
 Esbat... full moon.
[23:35]  neither do I...
 Esbat rituals... rituals to celebrate the full moon.
 GO ahead, Dark^Mage
[23:35]  @
 Wolfe, You're next.
[23:36]  I was just going to say, it isn't necessary to have a robe...Is it??   all my spells have been cast without...but does a robe help with the  casting???
 DM, I guess it  helps 'get you in the mood' or something.... none of MINE have been in robes, either, and it hasn't affected them, that I can tell.
[23:37]  @
 GO ahead, Wolfe.
 NudeDruid, you're next....
[23:37]  @
 Kimba, you're after NudeDruid
[23:38]  um.. Esbat rituals are alos weekly or so meetings of some coves..right..
[23:38]  covens...darn typo monster..
 Wolfe... nope. Those are just meetings. Esbats are strictly full moon.
[23:38]  @
 NudeDruid, go ahead.
 Dark^Mage, you're after Kimba
 Kimba, you're next.
[23:39]  just wanted to point oput the skyclad option in place of 
   robes
[23:39]  heh
[23:40]  trust u
 Yes, NudeDruid..... I was going to mention that, but you of ALL 
  people are the perfect one to point that out.....
[23:40] * darkwhite smiles
 Kimba, go ahead.
[23:40]  could one wear a dress istead of robes?
[23:40] * Dark^Mage bows to NudeDruid...:)
 Yes, Kimba... I wear jeans and t-shirts sometimes.... you can wear 
  whatever (or lack therof) you want.
[23:41]  @
 Dark^Mage, go ahead.
 Kimba, you're next.
 Kimba.... go ahead, while he's typing.
[23:43]  I have been looking for a coven for a long time but its 
   really hard where I live, solitary practice is good but donesn't being in a coven 
   help in spellcasting???
[23:43]  ok then if a robe doesn't matter, Why wear one(If you said this 
   before i jsut got in sorry)
[23:44]  @
[23:44]  sorry kimba didn't mean to interrupt...:)
[23:44]  no i am sorry i diddn't mean to interupt tyou
[23:44]  :)
[23:44]  lol :)
 Go ahead, stop politing each other and SOMEONE ask 
  something... ;-)
[23:46]  I have been looking for a coven for a long time but its 
   really hard where I live, solitary practice is good but donesn't being in a coven 
   help in spellcasting???
 NP, Kimba.... I lost it... sorry....
 Some poeple just LIKE wearing robes!
 DM, it helps in gathering energy, but you can be almost as 
  effective with practice all alone.
[23:47]  @
 Kimba... I think that the robes issue is mostly just for people 
  that want to set themselves apart when they're doing rituals... I think they're 
  neat, but I don't think they're necessary.
 GO ahead, Kimba.
[23:49]  @ after kimba...:)
[23:49]  ok I got a question but it isn't about robes. 
[23:49]  :)
 Go ahead....
 LOL, OK, DM....
[23:50]  Are we onlly allowed to ask about robes cause my question isn't 
   about robes
 NO, go ahead with your question...
[23:52]  ok How could I astral travel? does one have to know magik to 
   do it? I do try to meditate but I can't seem to do it
[23:52]  I am not a preacticer of magik or wicca
[23:52]  kimba: i know the address of a cool page about astral travel
 Kimba.... those are classes in themselves! I can send you my class 
  on emditation, I'm thinking seriously on a class on astral travel, but haven't 
  taught one yet.
[23:53]  i am not a practitioner either, but i think this method will get 
   results if i keep trying
[23:53]  one secm i'll get u the URL...
[23:53]  When do you have other classes? 
 darkwhite, thanks for helping, but please follow procedure and 
  don't talk out... thanks.....
[23:54]  @
 Kimba... I only teach classes here, on Saturdays at 
  10:30pmEST..... but I have logs from old classes.
 Yes, Kimba?
[23:55]  ok umm why does one do magik? what is the point of it and how 
   do i go about doing it i i never did  it before(ok I wouldn't mind a log of the 
   meitation if you have one please that is)
 (Let's make this the last question.... we're getting bogged down 
  and we've got a lot to discuss...)
 Kimba... THAT is a class in itself, too... ask me after class and I'll 
  explain.....
[23:57]  @
[23:57]  oops sorry...:)
 OK, DM... ONE more....
[23:58]  ok, thanks Mistress....What books would you reccomend for 
   the 'couple of months old' wiccan...:)
 DM.... there are tons of good beginners books out.... I'd suggest 
  Cunningham's Solitary's guide and Living Wicca, as well as Ravenwolf's To Ride a 
  Silver Broomstick and To Stir a Magic Cauldron.
 There are others, but that's a good place to start.
 The next topic to discuss is circle casting...
 The only thing you REALLY need is yourself.... (I've got a log of a 
  class on circle casting where I show you how to cast a cricle all by yourself, no 
  tools, if you'd like it, type a * and I;ll send it.)
 However, there are a few things that make circle casting easier.
[0:01]  *
 One is salt. You can use sea salt (preferred) or regular salt to 
  define the edge of your circle.
 This helps if you're not good with remembering the edges you 
  set up.
[0:02]  *
 Another is a candle, or candles.... I usually just have one, a white 
  votive, that I use.
 But you can use as many or as few as you'd like.
[0:03]  i have a comment
 OK< Chandos..... go ahead.
[0:04]  umm most of what i'v read usually has a balence of dark & 
   light for circles..ie one black &one white...candle that is...
[0:05]  shouldent balence be strived for?..
[0:05]  Merry Meet All
 Chandos, I've seen that, but I've never followed it and had no 
  problem... yes, balance i important, but having one white candle, surrounded by 
  darkness (when I do my rituals, at night) seems balanced to me....
[0:05]  ahhh ok
[0:05]  Does anyone know someone named Divada?
 Eire... no, and please follow the procedure I sent you in my 
  autogreet.
[0:07]  @
 Yes, Nite_Wolf?
[0:07]  I'm totally sorry
[0:07]  but have you ever heard of her?
 IT's OK, just READ your auto-greets next time! ;-)
 No, sorry.
[0:07]  Um, I didnt get an autogreet thingy
[0:08]  @
 Ovydd.... it was sent... did you get a notice in red across your 
  screen?
 Yes, Nite_Wolf?
[0:08]  what do you know about the Necronomicon?
[0:08]  No, I have globalchat..
[0:08]  Oh, nevermind..I found it :o)
 Nite_Wolf... that's not really what we're discussing, but honestly, 
  it's fictional. 
[0:09]  and please tell me truthfully
[0:09]  ohh, ok
[0:09]  thanx
 No problem.
 The last topic for the class is magickal endeavors without tools, 
  or without the proper tools.
[0:10]  MM, Silverstone
[0:10]  @
[0:10]  @
 Yes, Wolfe?
 Nite, you're next.
[0:11]  where can I get a log of this?
[0:11]  is this like a class, or something?
[0:11]  @
 Nite.... Yes, it is.
 It is a class... read the topic for the class....
[0:11]  ohh, sorry to interrupt, MP all
[0:11]  Um, hello?
 Wolfe...
 Ovydd, you're next.
 Wolfe, you can e-mail me at Goddesmoon@aol.com or you can 
  wait until I get it done and ask me online for a DCC of it.
 Ovydd, go ahead.
[0:12]  Hi, I was just wondering whats the main idea of the chat tonight, 
   any topic or anything?
 Ovydd.... THis is a class on no-frills magick... you can stay, if 
  you'd like, but you've missed almost all of it.
[0:13]  Aww bummer...
 I teach every Saturday night at 10:30pomEST.
[0:14]  Oh well then, thanks
 You're welcome to come next week.
 To continue.....
[0:14]  You do? Ok then, I be back next saturday
 The last topic is magickal endeavors without proper tools.
 Amulets are a common beginners' magickal working.
 You can make them with herbs, oils, etc, and put them in special 
  bags.
 But you don't have to do this.
 You can do all kinds of things to substitute.
 I use what stones I have on hand, usually, as well as using the 
  methods I gave above for oils.
 Herbs I usually don't use.
[0:21]  o
[0:21]  mp alls
 What I do is omit the herbs, or use runes to take the place of the 
  herbs' effects.
[0:23]  @
 Runes are usually drawn on parchment paper with doves' blood 
  or dragons' blood ink....
 Yes, Kimba?
[0:24]  Is herbs bad? 
[0:24]  is that why you odn't use them
 Nope.... I just seldom have them.
[0:25]  @
 Yes, Chandos?
[0:26]  a further comment: herbs are very nice but runes are a lot 
   longer lasting....some herbs called for are poisions in their own right & are 
   dangerious to have around.
 Yes, they are, Chandos... I don't keep a lot of herbs around due to 
  cats and sister with allergies, too....
[0:28]  that too
 One thing I also do with runes is that I don't do them in the 
  special ink on the special papaer... I use plain white paper and I write them with 
  my usual pen... I personally think that it's not the materials, it's the intent.
[0:31]  @ 
 That also applies to spells with complex ingredients... I don't use 
  a lot of 'prefab' spells, but when/.if I do, I use what I need, and omit what's too 
  showy, expensive or complex.
[0:31]  is the class still going on?
 Yes, Joselyn
 Yes, it is.... winding down, but still here.
[0:32]  @
 Yes, Chandos?
[0:32]  @
 Joselyn, after Chandos.
* MistressChaos gives extra huge hugs to ^Satyr^ **** ^Satyr^ ****
[0:33]  @
 MoonMagick, after Joselyn.
[0:33]  ok.
[0:33]  would use special paper& ink for a more complex working...as 
   approprait
[0:34]  @
 Yes... and I do when I have something really big, but if it's not 
  huge, I use what's convenient.
[0:34]  @
 Yes, Joselyn.
 Then MoonMagick, then Kimba
[0:34]  What is a good offering to give when conducting a worship, and 
   when is a good time to conduct a worship?  2.   Why does my name say +v?
[0:35]  I don't like blood sacrifices and refuse to do them
 Offering, usually a bit of cakes and ale, or flowers, etc. Good 
  time is according to the calendar ( astrological) or what's convenient and the +v 
  means that you can spek here... it's a mod channel.
[0:37]  oh, thank you.
 And blood sacrifices are almost NEVER used.. and then the only 
  blood you can use is your own.
[0:37]  @
[0:37]  oh, thank god!!!  I hate to kill.
[0:37]  This may seem weird but will dryed herbs work just as well 
   if you have them?
 Yes, they work fine.
 Kimba, and then Joselyn.
 Go ahead, 
  Kimba.
 Joselyn, you can go ahead and type yours, just don't send it....
[0:39]  what is frefab spells?
 prefab... ie I didn't write it, someone else did.
[0:40]  ok
 Joselyn, go ahead...
[0:40]  how do you make a black knife and a  white knife, and can they 
   both be used for the same thing?
[0:41]  @
 I have my 'black knife' (athame) and I bought it... white knife is 
  also buyable, and no they can't be used for the same things... athame is used only 
  for  cutting energy and directing it, white is for practical stuff, cutting 
  flowers, things like that.
 Yes, Chandos?
[0:42]  ok
[0:43]  @
 Joselyn, after Chandos.
[0:44]  @
 Chandos, go ahead...
[0:44]  back to runes in place of herbs..&  no tools hardly..i like dance 
   best for a focus whe doing w out tools...& runes all you need is a pen & paper...u
   se pen as atheme :>
 Then Joselyn, then interested.
[0:45]  when are the major "holidays" and when  are they?
 Chandos... I like that approach.. I do everything with visualization,
   and that's similar....
[0:45]  the pen is mightier than the sword somtimes :>
[0:45]  :-)
 Joselyn.. that's a long answer... there are 8 amjor ones, and then 
  the full moons.
[0:47]  what do you do on the full moons?
 Try looking on one of the good pages (witch's brew, etc.) for 
  explanations.... they'd do better there than I can, now...
 Full moon is when I do a small, special circle....
 I don't get elaborate... the circle I talk about in my circle casting 
  class is what I do on full moons.
[0:48]  oh, to celebrate the end of a cycle
 Yes...
 Interested, I haven't forgotten you!
 http://www.preferred.com/~morgan/brew/wbrew.html
 That's the Witch's brew page.
 Interested, go ahead...
[0:50]  is this the time for general questions?
 Basically...
[0:50]  :-)
[0:50]  @
[0:51]  @
 interested, go ahead, then Joselyn
[0:51]  how do I meet people in my area
[0:51]  ?
[0:52]  @
 Try webeaving pages, like PAL or Witch's Brew (which has  a GOOD 
  page for contacts.)
 PAL is the Pagan Awareness League and the address is http://member
  s.aol.com/PALWEB/pal.htm
 Joselyn, then MoonMagick
[0:52]  how often do you hold classes?
 Every week, if I can, unless I've got conflicts...
 I'll be starting soon a mailing list for the classes, and I'll let y'all know 
  when I get it set up.
[0:54]  oh, do you ever celebrate the holidays on the web?
 Sometimes....
[0:54]  MP all...
 MoonMagick, go ahead.
[0:54]  that"s cool
[0:54] * Dark^Mage bows to all as he leaves...
[0:54]  It seems that it is important to have a teacher when it 
   comes to wicca & or paganism... how can I get one when my wife and I are the 
   only ones in the north htat I know of..
 Moon... it's not necessary to have a teacher... the first class I 
  went to was one I was teaching... but if you need one, ask the GOddess for help, 
  network online as much as you can, and you'll find one, eventually.
[0:56] * ^Satyr^ never had much of a teacher.
[0:56]  here is a good place :>
 I was my own teacher.
[0:56] * ^Satyr^ been literally a hermit all his life.
[0:57]  me also
  Yup, Chandos..... ou can learn a lot online...
[0:57]  also ladyoflove teaches on wensdays
[0:57]  so am I
[0:57]  Up in northern Alberta pagans are realy scarse
 Yes, they are, from what I"ve heard... but keep looking, you'll find 
  one....
 Anyone else got a question?
[0:58]  @
 Go ahead, Joselyn
[0:59]  are there any particular days I shoudl worship, like christians 
   have sunday?
[0:59]  chuckle
  whenever you can is fine....
[0:59]  Merry Parting all hope to see you all again soon
[0:59]  i'll talk about yer whisper later mis :>
 I do it on Esbats, Sabbats (the 8 big holidays) and whenever else I 
  need to do a ritual....
[1:00]  oh, i like that!!!
[1:00]  sorry that I gotta go
 MP, interested.
 Anyone else?
[1:00]  @ 
[1:00]  but i cant seem to whisper to ya :>
 Go ahead, Kimba
[1:01]  umm do you usually tell us what the topic is going to be about 
   for the comming week and also are you theonly person that has classes?
[1:02]  Thank you for all of your information m' Lady, and I will be at 
   your next class.  Please email me with the schedule.  jynger@hotmail.com
 Kimba...I am the only one that teaches here... there are others 
  that do teach, but I don't keep up with schedules.
 Chandos..... not working... weird....
[1:03]  @
[1:03]  yea all i have is telemate for dos no mirc
[1:03]  @
[1:03]  i'll wait :>
 I choose my next week's topic in the middle of the week, so it's 
  really hard to say WHAT I'm going to teach next... unless you've got a topic you'd 
  like to see, then I'd be glad to take a suggestion!
 MoonMagick, go ahead.
 Kimba, you're next.
[1:04]  What are the basic tools for the alter. It seems every book 
   has it's own ideas.
 Moon, every Pagan's got their own idea.... it's really up to you, as 
  to what you're using and what you want.
 Go ahead, Kimba
[1:04]  @
 Chandos, you're next.
[1:06]  I was wondering when you gonna discuss astral traveling?
[1:06]  I am interested in that
[1:06]  Merry part all and thank you MistressChaos for an 
   informative class & help.
[1:06]  I tryed to do it but can't
[1:06]  and i don't do magik at this moment of time
[1:06]  hay Luc
 Kimba.... haven't decided... gotta buddy that'll be tandem-teaching 
  that class with me, so I'm pretty much waiting on him to get HIS butt in gear...
[1:08]  tandem teaching?
[1:08]  ok
[1:08]  but tell me when am i willl try to mak e it
 Teaching with me....
[1:08]  will be late cause i work on sats
[1:08]  I proberly will get here around wait did you say 1030 east 
   standard time?
[1:08] <^Satyr^> kimb: you work on Satyrdays? };>
 Kimba... once I get the mailing list I'll make sure to announce it so 
  you can get on it... it'll be how I annopunce things.
[1:08] <^Satyr^> kimb: that's blasphemy };>
[1:08]  if you siad that i won't be able to make  it
 Yes, Kimba... that's when all my classes are....
[1:09]  cause I get off around 11 central time
 10:30pmESt.
 Well then you can get logs, read the logs, and ask me questions 
  later....
[1:09]  ad sometimes 1030 central time but but that owuld be 1130 your 
   time
[1:09]  ok
[1:09]  i could do
[1:09]  i got off early today that is why am here
 Well, glad to see ya, and hope to hear from you again soon!
[1:10]  thanks for the lesson
[1:10]  not done  yet :>
[1:10]  never done :>
  NP, Kimba
 Anyone else got a question?
[1:11]  i was going to mention somthing :> for previous q
 Go ahead....
[1:13]  5 basic items:1 athame/substaute 2 cup 3 caldron 4 pentagram 
   5 candle/s
[1:13]  seem to be the most basic of tools that i have found in commen
[1:14]  and mabey salt
 Yes, Chan, but I don't use pentagram or cauldron, and I usually 
  see god/dess representations on alters....
 All I use is things to represent the elements and candles....
[1:16]  chuckle..wasent trying to write it in  stone dear :>..and substatute
   s should be used if you are more comfortable w them :>
 I know... just saying...
 Anyone else got any questions?
[1:17]  me also :>
[1:17]  @
 Go ahead, LeeLu....
[1:20]  Why?? 
[1:20] * ^Satyr^ thinks someone liked 5th element movie };>
[1:20] * ^Satyr^ dances around Leelu.
[1:20] * LeeLu grins
[1:20]  why what?
 Thought you had a question, what with the @ and all....
[1:21] <^Satyr^> @>--'--,--   }:>
[1:21]  why? thatis my questoin... *Giggle* 
[1:21]  why about  what leelu?
[1:21] * ^Satyr^ just wanted to pose a "flowery" question };> *sic*
 LeeLu... you're insane, ya know? *thwap*
 Satyr, you too.....
 Anyone ELSE got a question?
 If not, I declare class over... 
[1:26]  you astral travel mistress?
 Yes... 
[1:26]  I know i keep  going back to the astral travel hting
[1:26]  was it easy when you first try?
 Kimba.. I am naturally good at it... I did it first time accidentally.
 It was one of those "ohmigod, how do I do that again!" thing.
 First time I deliberately did it, however, it WAS hard.
[1:29]  the logic side of the brain fights it
[1:29]  I should ave an easy time, then...   
 Yes, it does.. it's hard... but once you do it once, deliberately, it's easier 
  and it gets easier and easier....
[1:30]  yea like somthing else :> to a certian extent
[1:30]  rofl
 Am.... YOU LLOGICAL?? never!
[1:30]  then thsi mean i am not natually good at it?
[1:31]  kimba all peoples talents are diffrent
 You may just not have a natural tnedancey to it... but it 
  doesn't mean you can't do it.....
[1:31]  ok how can i do it deliberatly or even  accidently?
[1:31]  I read dj  conways book on how to do  it
[1:31]  i may never be ablt to asteral..but i am good at weather magic..
   in a way
 Kimba.... I guess you'll have to wait for  the class.. it's really a LONG 
  topic, and I'm really not up to it at the moment, having just taught this LONG class....
[1:32]  and pratice is essiential
 Yes, pradctice is important.....
[1:33]  and needs a loong neck massage
[1:33]  what is my natual tallent how does one know
[1:33]  weather magic?
[1:33]  hey I love the weaather
[1:33]  i am a minor in geography
 LOL... Chandos, you're awful....
[1:33]  dealing iwth weather
[1:33]  ok sorry
[1:33]  sorry mistress chaos
 It's OK, Kimba.... it's just a really LONG topic.... another time, 
  perhaps.
[1:33]  yea weather magic..ie i can influence the weather..i don't like to 
   though..
[1:34]  like what you mean by weather magic? like can make it rain?
[1:34]  O
 Kimba.. it's possible, but draining.
[1:34]  my neck is always stif
[1:34]  and hurtful
[1:34]  i meant a real massage mistress :>
[1:34]  i think it might be out of aligned
 Well, y'all... f noone else has anything 
  to ask..... I'm off to #WIcca
 Merry Part, y'all... see you there....

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