Reply to Asif - August 06, 2006 Dear Vijaisingh,
If you don’t like to be called a ‘Kafir’ then be a Muslim.
Vj ~ Why, so that I can be offended when called a lamebrain?

I already explained to you that the very idea of ‘Non-Muslims should be killed’ is not in our religion. You are repeatedly quoting out of context.
Vj ~ Then explain this - 8:12, I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them.

And what about those who chose to become non-muslims (apostates)? (Sahih Bukhari 4.260) Narrated Ikrima: "No doubt, I would have killed them, for the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' "

You did blaspheme and you are still living.
Vj ~ So is Solomon Rushdie, who is still running for his life.

Vj ~ “The people may have problems but my religion is free of it, it contains nothing historical nor irrational to mislead, but to elevate the human soul. It is those who revile and rejects it, that have problems.”
It is true where Islam is concerned.
Vj ~ You definitely have cow manure for brains. How could it be true when so many are suffering because of it? It is because of four wives and 72 virgins in paradise that the ignorant, like your prophet, are running towards it and not from it.

Whenever you are not able to counter argue my points, you start abusing Islam.

Vj ~ It shows that a religion that can be abused is weak (false) and not worthy of "counter argue".
Did you try teaching your true religion to your people?
Vj ~ They need to be aware of the danger that surrounds them, since it is Muslims who are bombing their Parliament, trains and places of worship, etc.

How many wives did Lord Krishna have? What message that teaches you?
Vj ~ It teaches me that Krishna was a still a better choice for a prophet than the illiterate epileptic pedophilic sex maniac Muhammad, who sexually molested a nine year-old child (Aisha) and his own daughter-in-law.

Killing of cows - you are more worried about cows than humans.
Vj ~ I have to, these innocent creatures are so helpless when it comes to defending themselves. Aren't you fellas defending the pigs also. You let the pigs live, but the cow that gives milk to nourish the physical body you annihilate.

Islam does not forcing you to eat non-veg. it is not compulsory for a human being to have Non-Veg. - a Muslim can be a very good Muslim, even by being a pure Vegetarian. But when our Creator, Almighty God, Allah (SWT), gives us permission to have Non-Veg., why should we not have it?
Vj ~ Sure your god gave you permission to kill, not only animals, but humans (infidels) also who do not agree with your faith, but you must question whether your god is really god to begin with.

Let us analyze the geographical reasons and the surrounding environment and as we know, it influences is the person’s food habit - like people living in the coastal region, they have more fish - People living in South India, they have more Rice - People living in the desert, where there is scarcity of vegetation, and people mainly survive on the flesh of animals. The Eskimo in the Arctic region, where there is scarcity of edible vegetation, they survive more on sea food.
Vj ~ Why don't you apply the same logic to your religion, that if god handed down 'true' religion (Islam) for all, how could the Eskimos and others (Mayans/Incas) of remote regions who knew nothing of it (deprived) have a chance of attaining paradise? Again when ramadan is observed by fasting from dawn to dusk, how could the eskimos, if they were muslims, observed it, when there are only days for months?

I would request you to supply, at least give the transportation cost to supply to the Eskimos, to supply to Saudi Arabia. You get vegetables in Saudi Arabia. It is more expensive because the cost of transportation - that makes it more expensive. It is illogical and unscientific to spend more money, to buy a food which is less nutritious.
Vj ~ Every soul has to answer to its past actions, sinful and virtuous (karma), and whatever conditions they are born in, they must make the effort, some more difficult than others, to get out of it, if not this birth maybe others in the future, but none is condemned to eternal hell. If you believe there is no such thing as reincarnation, then you would have a difficult time explaining the case of the soul born blind and deaf (mute), who cannot see, read and hear the Quran.

Islam is a complete and perfect way of life. Only Islam has the solutions of all the problems of humanity. But, the limited knowledge about Islam and your prejudices made you blindly attack on everything Islam teaches.
Vj ~ A religion that boasted " a complete and perfect way of life" must be for all and from the very beginning of creation and not to a few in Saudi Arabia 1400 years ago. I have impartially and constructively cricitised all the others also, so to single out my criticism on Islam as prejudicial or a "blind attack" is totally false. Muslims through out the world are in disharmony with others and themselves, killing, maiming and destroying, so I don't see where there is the perfect way of life. Muhammad was an illiterate and if out of his teachings "a complete and perfect way of life" can be achieved, then we would have illiterates teaching in all schools, colleges and universities of the world. And since no sensible or civilized person would hire one or like to be taught by one, one must wonder what kind of a god would chose or hire one to be his messenger?

As far as non-human being living creatures are concerned, no human being should harm them unnecessarily, should not kill them unnecessarily, for sports, or for fun, or for target practice - but if it is for you security and for your safety, you can stop them, you can even kill them - or if you want for lawful food, but not just for fun and frolic, or for hunting. If Almighty God, our Creator, wanted us to have only vegetables, why did He give us these pointed teeth - for what?
Vj ~ He gave us pigs and alcohol also, so why are they forbidden for human consumption? "There is no turpitude in eating meat, drinking alcohol or committing adultery, for it is the natural way of created beings, but abstinance brings great reward." Manu
It is saying that evil is in inherent in (eternal) matter which we are created of, so by nature we are sinful and that revelation (Vedas) from God which was given in the very beginning for all, depriving none, are instructions to guide us from all evils. Even if you consider many (Eskimos, Mayans, Incas, Arabs, etc.) being deprived of the Vedas, the very least we can conclude it is not God's fault but their own ignorance.

I have quoted many sentence from a speech delivered by Dr. Zakir Naik (Islamic Research Foundation). In the same way, each and every argument against Islam can be refuted. So, before waging a war against Islam, try to learn.
Vj ~ Learning of Islam (or one's own specific religion) alone is not the solution to refuting my argument. As a matter of fact, it is the cause of ignorance which results in hate and waging wars. You can never prove your religion to be authentic unless you can rationally show me the fault in my faith (Vedic) as I have done of yours. And putting out a response void of reasoning just for the sake of a response is not the answer either.

Well you have said it yourself, if it took your god 124000 messengers and the final one, an illiterate at that, to finally get his message right one has to be concern that something is seriously wrong somewhere. Why would any sensible person want to be a part or have trust in such a god, his messengers and his religion?
As for your other rebuttals I have already addressed them in detail in my past dialogues.

If the messages of 124000 messengers got corrupted, prompting a final message, how could anyone trust the final one to hold firm? And lastly, if the final one is perfect, one would have to wonder why god couldn't find an illiterate to perfect it in the very beginning?

Your dialogues are prejudiced.
Vj ~ To the ignorant it is, but there is certainly no advocation of phsical harm to anyone. Islam is prejudiced for it branded non-muslims as infidels. Muslims are full of hate and until now they murder, maimed and plunder in the name of such hate.

You don't want to know the truth.
Vj ~ If you know the truth, then you will have to show me the faults of my faith and if you can't then your truth is all bulls.

For every verse, you are giving your own interpretation.
Vj ~ Well, aren't the "so called followers" of the Quran have their own interpretation also? If you can't solve the problems of your own religion, how will you be able to convince non-muslims of how genuine Allah's guidance is?

Quoting out of context is evil. You may have personal reasons to take every message from Quran in the wrong sense.

Vj ~ The Quran is evil so quoting it out of context has to be a blessing. I did the same for all the other religions also, applying good reasoning to it. As I said many time before, the Quran cannot be God's divine guidance to mankind since billions before and in remote regions of the world were deprived of it.

If you think logically you can understand that.
Vj ~ If you can ever think logically you won't be a muslim to begin with.

I invite you to ISLAM!
Vj ~ Thanks but I have no desire of going to hell (rebirth as a rat).

Reply to Asif -Jul 13, 06
Why are you calling me names?
Vj ~ If you are offended by it, it is for your own good. If anyone should be offended here, it should be me by your faith I am constantly branded an infidel, but it doesn't bother me at all.

Is this your religion teaches you?
Vj ~ You are not interested in what my religion teaches, so why do you care what it teaches me? I am the one who should be concerned of what your religion teaches when it declares that infidels should be put the sword (Jihad or fatwa). Don't you feel good that if you blasphemed my religion there is no fear of a fatwa on your head?

You are talking about your religion and I am mine.
Vj ~ No, I am talking about your religion and you, yours. But in fact, if you desire to know the truth, you should be talking of mine as I am of yours.

Then, why are you getting angry?
Vj ~ How am I angry, when you are the one that is offended?

Is this the way you call to the One True Religion?
Vj ~ It is the nature of truth (one true religion) to hurt the ignorant for their own good. I am neither moved (offended or praised) by insult or vanity, such is the great benefit of one true Vedic religion.

If Aisha (RA) got married at the age of 9, she went to live with Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) at a later period. What is annoying you there?
Vj ~ That is not what Aisha said. Abu Dawud's Hadith is the third most respected Hadith in Islam. Aisha said,

"The Apostle of Allah (Muhammad) married me when I was seven years old." (The narrator Sulaiman said: "Or six years."). "He had intercourse with me when I was 9 years old." Abu Dawud, Vol. 2, #2116

It is a custom among them at that time as it was in many parts of the world including India.
Vj ~ If it was the custom it had to be because of the fallen (lowly and ignorant) state of society , don't you wonder why a prophet of God who should be against it condoned and practice it himself?

Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) never married his own daughter-in-law. Zaid (RA) is not his son.
Vj ~ It was his adopted son, just the same. He asked Zaid to divorce her, so that he can fulfil his lustful desires. Such actions are that of an illiterate.

There were no riots made by your people? Can you control them?
Vj ~ No I can't, neither did your prophet had any control over himself muchless his people. Until today Muslims are restless and fill with hate for those who reminds them of the their barbaric and tyrannical past.

With power and politics they are attacking Muslims all over the world. Many examples from India itself.
Vj ~ It is only history repeating itself, Muslims invaded many innocent nations of the world and now they are being attacked, not because they are muslims but because of their failure to assimilate. But look at the brighter picture, that they are better off in India and all other Western democracies, free to practice their religion, than a hindu or a Christian in Saudi Arabia and other Islamic countries.

And, you are not aware of these facts? What about the hurricanes happened in America? What is America doing in Iraq? Are you telling me all the natural calamities happening all over the world is because of Muslims and only Muslims suffering from it? Then I must say you are blind and deaf.
Vj ~ True it is happening all over the world where there is unrighteousness, but sadly Muslims are more affected by it, because of the hate their religion teaches for non-muslims.

If some of the so-called Muslims done something wrong, that is not Islam at all. Why don’t you educate your people first? Most of your people do not know your religion. Even your religious priests are exploiting people. Try teaching your true religion to your people and see.
Vj ~ How would that change you, if only my people must see? The one true religion is for all, and I have taken to task all the false religions of the world, including hinduism. But it is still better to be a peaceful hindu, than a peaceful Muslim, for you can rely on a hindu to be more tolerant. If they were no Muslims in India to attack hindu, who would the hindu be attacking?

Quoting out of context is evil.
Vj ~ Worshipping Allah, through an illiterate and pedophile and his Quran is the worst of all evil. God has no cure for a fool, so why should I try? You have taken your lessons of 'philosophy' from an illiterate (Muhammad) one who didn't know any better than to sexually molest a child, so how can you prove me wrong in any matter concerning true faith?

Reply to Asif - Jul 16, 06
If you don’t like to be called a ‘Kafir’ then be a Muslim.
Vj ~ Why? Where did I say I was offended by what I am being called? But surely if I become a Muslim, I can be, as you are, offended when called a lamebrain?

I already explained to you that the very idea of ‘Non-Muslims should be killed’ is not in our religion. You are repeatedly quoting out of context.
Vj ~ Then explain this - 8:12, I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them
And what about those who chose to become non-muslims (apostates)? (Sahih Bukhari 4.260) Narrated Ikrima: "No doubt, I would have killed them, for the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' "

You did blaspheme and you are still living.
Vj ~ So is Solomon Rushdie, Anwar Sheik, Dr. Ali Sina, Taslima, etc., who are still running for their lives.

Vj ~ "The people may have problems but my religion is free of it, it contains nothing historical nor irrational to mislead, but to elevate the human soul. It is those who revile and rejects it, that have problems."
It is true where Islam is concerned.
Vj ~ You definitely have cow manure for brains. How could it be true when all Muslims are suffering because of it? It is because of four wives and 72 virgins in paradise that the ignorant, like your prophet, are running towards it and not from it.

Whenever you are not able to counter argue my points, you start abusing Islam.
Vj ~ It shows that a religion that can be abused is weak (false) and not worthy of "counter argue".

Did you try teaching your true religion to your people?

Vj ~ They need to be taught of the present danger of Islam that surrounds them, since it is Muslims who are bombing their Parliament, trains and places of worship, etc.

How many wives did Lord Krishna have? What message that teaches you?
Vj ~ It teaches me that Krishna was a still a better choice of a prophet than the illiterate epileptic pedophilic sex maniac Muhammad, who sexually molested a nine year-old child (Aisha) and his daughter-in-law. Hindus have not invaded other countries and forced their religion on anyone.

Reply to Mark - Jul 24, 06
A person is trying to enlighten you and for that u curse him i been reading Mr. Asif's & Ur Exchange of Dialogs you have no idea what you are talking about? are u? i say you must shut this fourm at once your bringing only haterd to others any intrest i had in knowin abt vedas is diming I hope this person puts sum sence into you for sure i wouldnt be able to keep up with ur false language and use of improper words.
Vj ~ A muslim who burns with hate enough to kill or maimed can never be one to enlighten anyone. When it comes to "improper words" you should read and reread what you have written here.

p.s are u 15 ? or juss ignorant
Vj ~ If 15 and under is ignorant, why then did Muhammad, a supposedly 'religious' man married a six year-old child

Then how come God Almighty punishes a person in this life for the deeds he has done in the past life, which he is not aware of? Is this justice?
Vj ~ It makes better sense, at least, even if they don't know what occurred in their past life to justify the punishment, it is still better than being punished for no reason at all, an injustice. But when we are exposed to the pain and sufferings of others it is enough an incentive for us to investigate why? Again, if Muslims are truly god's people, why do they have to suffer so much before going to Paradise?

You mean suffer in this life? Because, it is a test for each.
Vj ~ Who is doing the testing, Allah? God is supposed to be All-pervading, knower of all things, idiot. Then again all must be tested equally if there is fairness, not some born in poverty (pain) and some in wealth (happiness).

Suppose a teacher conducting an examination (test) for his students. The teacher knows all the answers to the question paper. He is testing his students and according to their performance he will award marks to the students. Use commonsense.
Vj ~ If you had common sense, you would use it to figure out how an illiterate could be a teacher (messenger) award the greatest gift all gifts of salvation. The teacher gives a test and award marks alright, but the students go through the same test papers. Now When one is blind or deaf and poor and the other with sight and wealthy, how is a fair test?
God is not human, He does not have to test anyone, for He already knows all answers and all.

"When sin predominates over virtue in a man, his soul goes into the bodies of animals, birds, insects and trees"-
Even if I agree that for the sake of argument, you should not take the life of plants and trees. That will be a sin.
Vj ~ If you can't see the sin of a prophet (God's chosen messenger) having sex with a child (Aisha), how can you envisage the sin of taking the life of a tree? Plants and trees don't run (in fear) for their lives as animals do, so there is a reason why everything else feed on them.

You can't drink water, because you will be killing the micro organisims in the water.
Vj ~ There is no sin in killing trees and drinking water, whatever life exists in them, they are reincarnated Muslims deserving of death in such a fashion. So where is the injustice?

You can't even breathe. You will be a rat in your next life
Vj ~ By being a muslim, you have already chosen to be a rat in your next life.

Thats why Allah Given us omnivorous set of teeth. Clear?
Vj ~ Never mind omnivorous teeth, I am glad Allah gave you the Quran. It was a worrying thought for me wondering where the God of the Vedas would find sinful souls to bring to life vegetation, animals, insects and other bacteria needed to support human life in His next creation.

If you don't have the answers to my questions, say so. Don't act like a child.
Vj ~ It is better to be child, for only in such state of purity and innocence can a soul acquire a higher birth. You don't need answers, just get hold of a cow or a camel to eat or have sex with and make your day!

Reply to Asif - Jul 31, 06
Caricatures of Muhammad - the truth is, even their god has failed them, now that they are asking the infidels (West) to reign in laws to protect Islam. You'd think they would first worry about their own Suni/Shite problem before our cherished freedom of expression. What absurdity?
If anybody draw insulting pictures about your sister, will you be offended? Don't say I will congratulate him!!
Vj ~ Anyone can come up with an image, but who is the genius that verified any of these to be true the likeness of Prophet Muhammad?. And if anyone draw a pig and put your sister's name to it, why would be offended when you know fully well it is not your sister?

You obviously don't know what Islam is or what it means
Vj ~ Action speaks louder than words, so with all the tyranny of suicide bombers, flying planes into buildings, honor killings, rapings, etc. who doesn't know by now what Islam means?

How would you like it if someone makes a website about your beliefs and almost everything is false and negative. You'll obviuosly be upset and a bit angry.
Vj ~ I know don't of anyone who can do it, but if you can, you have my permission to do so, and I promise you that you are the one who will end up getting angry or upset.

Most of the people who leave Islam usually don't know the truth or they were mistreated by others who call themselves muslim.
Vj ~ So who is a Muslim, a sunni, a shiite, an Amadhya, a sufi, an Ishmaeli? If they are all Muslims why so many sects, all hating one another ?

By the way, Muslims do beleive in the holy books revealed to prophets. We are suppsoe to beleive in the Gospel, but 82% of the Gospel is not word of God. Even the Thorah is not 100% word of God. They all have been changes and the message has been distorted. Moses and Jesus were sent to a specific region and they even said something about Mohammad PBUH and that he is sent by God to all mankind, not s specific region.
Vj ~ So what about the Hindus, Buddhists, Zoroastrians, etc., whose prophets are never acknowledged by Muslims as messengers of God? Even if 18% is true of the Gospel who in Islam can justify to be so? How could he have sent it to all mankind when Arabic is a spoken language of one particular nation - the Arabs?

So, we don't know what happened to the true Gospel.
Vj ~ Strange, if you don't know what was the true Gospel about, how would it be possible for you to say they were "distorted" or not?

The bible itself contradicts and God does not. I saw your contradictiobs on the Quran. You made no sense. There isn't a single verse that contradicts. Whatever you showed were not contradiction. you made your own interpretations.
Vj ~ You are right, how can I make any sense, when you don't know anything of my faith?

I don't know why you are making a site about Islam and not on you own religion. I am guessing you are a sikh. And I know sikhs are better human beings than you.
Vj ~ If you weren't so bias, you would have found the site on my own religion.

I'm not the best guy to clarify your misconceptions,
Vj ~ I know that, and it is so difficult to find a Muslim who can. Anyways, I am hoping that one come forward one day, but who taught by an illiterate can?

but all i can tell you that islam should not be considered a religion, it is a principle that means submission to God. If someone truly submits to god, worships god and fears god. They can be considered a muslim.
Vj ~ If that is all is required to be a Muslim, why did Allah sent the Quran? I am quite sure Adam, Abraham, Moses and Jesus were all Muslims and without it.

Thank you for reading this email, and may the Creator of mankind (GOD) show you the truth.
Vj ~ Truth must exist in its entirety from the very beginning of creation for all and not to only a bunch of illiterate Arabs 1400 years ago.

Reply to Mr. Khan - May 11, 06
Listen up. I don't know that much about Islam but i just told you the actions of most muslims don't reflect islam
Vj ~ Well that's my point, when you don't know much about Islam, how can you speak for the actions of Muslims?

And it is the churches and biblical scholars who admit that most of the bible is written by man. Paul, LIke, Mattheew, John and others came after Jesus. They never sat beside Jesus, talked to Jesus, nor did they see Jesus. I'm saying whatever Christains are saying about their religion.
Vj ~ I read your Quran and therefore I can speak for the actions of Muslims also. Killing infidels (suicide bombers) is martyrdom, rewarded by 72 virgins. Is this not true? And since you claimed the scriptures of the Jews and Christians are corrupted, we have to assume that what the Quran now has, was the truth of Torah and the Bible earlier. Am I not right?

And it is the churches and biblical scholars who admit that most of the bible is written by man. Paul, LIke, Mattheew, John and others came after Jesus. They never sat beside Jesus, talked to Jesus, nor did they see Jesus. I'm saying whatever Christains are saying about their religion.
Vj ~ And the rest of the world are saying that the Quran was also written by man and because he was an illiterate, it turned out to be far more voilent than the Bible. It was voilent from the very beginning and still is.

By the way, Islam does not accept killing of innocent people or suicide in anyway. We have to respect every one.
Vj ~ How do you show respect for those (unbelievers) the Quran branded as infidels?

"Those who reject our signs, we shall soon cast them into the fire. As soon as their skins are wasted through; we shall change them for fresh skins that they may taste the penalty, for God is exalted in power wise....…." (Vol. 1 Pg. 197) "Verily God has cursed the un-believers and prepared for them a Blazing Fire. To dwell therein for ever, no protector will they find." (Vol. 3 Pg. 1121) "The day that their faces will be turned upside down in fire, they will say:- "Woe to us, would that we had obeyed God and obeyed the Apostle." (Vol.3 Pg.1121)

Also, the Quran states that there are 100,000+ prophets and there was a messenger sent to every region in this world. It only states gives the names and details of 30+ prophets. What do you dislike about islam? NOt muslims?
Vj ~ But only one prophet Muhammad), I know of, had 9 wives, one his own daughter-in-law and another only a child (Aisha) nine years old. And there was no mention of 99,999+ who said a man should have 4 wives, unless this god favored the Arabs, which will be an injustice to the others.

How can an illiterate can produce something like Quran? Does that prove Quran is not from Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)?
Vj ~ Whoever it is from, the source is still an illiterate because such violent and intolerant instructions cannot be that of an educated man, muchless an All-wise God.

Why don't you use your intellect?
Vj ~ How would you know how an intellect works when your mentor the illiterate Muhammad didn't have one to begin with?

Still you are not accepting its divinity, be ready to go to Hell!!
Vj ~ A man who constantly uses reasoning to guide him can never be the one going to hell. An illiterate is an illiterate and whatever the illiterate produces is based on pure ignorance and that's it.

My duty is to pass the message. You can accept it or deny it.
Vj ~ Makes no sense as it only shows the injustice of God. It is JUST when all are given a chance to "accept or deny" but it is a grave injustice when God change the rules in the middle of the game and left the Mayans/Incas, eskimos and millions in remote regions of the world with no chance to "accept or deny".

Whereas Quran is the only Religious scripture which remian pure on the face of the earth.
Vj ~ A man of impurities, an illiterate, an epileptic, a child molester, a polygamist, an adulterer and a murderer can never be religious muchless pure to produce anything pure.
Scripture of purity brings happiness, but everywhere in the islamic world there is only chaos, pain and misery of the worst kind.
What other reason do I need, to reject such a message?

True religion is not only about perpetual happiness in after life but the present also.
Since Muslims all over the world are in constant pain and misery, it is useless to speak of paradise's bliss. No soul can boast of happiness, now or after, when it is responsible for the slaughter innocent animals.

Challenge of Quran!“If you are in doubt as to what We have revealed from time to time to Our servant, then produce a Sura like thereunto: and call your witnesses and helpers (if there are any) besides Allah, if your (doubts) are true.” 2:23

“But if you cannot – and of a surety you cannot – then fear the Fire whose fuel is men and stones which is prepared for those who reject Faith.” 2:24 -The Holy Quran
Vj ~ There is no challenge at all, since you are yet argue the five tests of true religion laid out on this forum.
Just show me lamebrain, how the Quran is compatible to these tests.

"...and they scoff at those who believe."
Vj ~ In belief there is doubt, so whoever believe are ignorant (void of reasoning) to begin with.

Not a single teachings of Quran is against humanity as a whole. Use your reasoning to prove otherwise!
Vj ~ I hope this is proof enough for now - "O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians as awliya’ (friends, protectors, helpers, etc.), they are but awliya’ to one another…" Q.5: 51

Topic and their Interconnection:- In view of the degenerate moral condition of the Jews and the Christians, the Believers have been warned not to make them their friends and confidants. Likewise they should be on their guard against the evil designs of the hypocrites, the disbelievers and the like and should rely on the true Believers alone. The people of the Book have, in their turn been exhorted to give up their enmity and adopt the right attitude, for they cannot get salvation without this. 51 - 69
Vj ~ On the other hand, if this your god had any brains at all, he could have sent the Quran earlier, let's say before the Torah and Bible and then there would have been no Jews or Christians to like or dislike. I guess it would not have made much of a difference since, inspite of perfect Quran, the Shites and Sunnis are still at odds with each other.

Reply to Asif - Aug 10, 06
There are many Hindus who are strictly vegetarian.
Vj ~ It is a good thing that they are, otherwise they would have invaded Saudi Arabia and built their temples in Mecca.

Inspite of being strict vegeterians they demolished Babri Masjid and planning more! What is your point Vijai?
My point is if the Hindus had a temple in Mecca it would have been demolished before it was finished or not long after it was being built. It shows that Hindus are more tolerant in that it took them so many centuries to do it and only one of so many mosques that were previously hindu temples.

You agree that the Vedas had been tampered with; don't you?
Vj ~ Most certainly, any book can be tampered with, but truth is truth and the truth of the Vedas can never be tampered with by any human or even God. If it was , how come it (truth) offends you and all those that come in contact with it?

They excavated the land and did not find any proof that it was a temple.
Vj ~ Not true, my friend. Here is the result of the survey