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Vic High
Time 16:22, 18 Feb 1999
From Dr. mezz
has anyone ever tried obtaining CO2 through
alternative methods.ie radioactive
carbon-14 mixed with oxygen?Any thoughts
would be appreciated.
mezz
Time 11:44, 18 Feb 1999
From Orchid man
The 380 gr plant was a mother that has
been clones, she was at the middle of the grow
room with the 5,400w set up.she was
really big, did have all the air and fert she needed
and gave only 380 gr.There is still
a leaffy mother that grow buds so slowly , I'll
die of cancer before she finishes up.
no resin glands on this one.Although the budz
don't show no resin glands as northen
light would do, the stone is potent and the resin
flow on the rolling paper . The potencyis
not the problem..., the lies about the yield , along
with the unstability wich bring a lot
of guess work is very unpleasent. Really not
impress, 15 years of indoor growing
experience, i am not a newbie.
Time 10:59, 18 Feb 1999
From Orchid man
Long
time no see,Kong update,for those who would like to try the
Kong, don't waiste your time and money
on it, it is way too unstable and almost no resin
glands. The yield is not so great and
uyou would have to be very lucky to find the right
mother in this mess of strains. My old
strain, (northen light derivative) went faster and
give very near the same yield. There
is absolutely nothing special about the Kong, i am
very mad to have waisted my time and
effort to this unstable strain. It was grown under
1000w hps and 4000w MHsalt fert, 1 plant=
380 gr. It was supposed to be at least
2 pounds.For the same space and light,
i would of have the same tield with my old
strain.
Time -3:19, 18 Feb 1999
(marshwil@hotmail.com)
a f.o.m. has been experiencing ongoing
problems, grows nl5xhaze and shark, and afghan
for hiv related illness. his plants
get small orange/tan spots surrounded by deeper colored
halo. like rust or h20 spot, not bulls
eye, ... latest out break occurred with temps near 90 f
and humidity at low low 30% to prevent
fungus.last time captan was used (pre
flower of course) and the humidity was
lowered simultaneously, he believed the prob. was
solved until newly rooted clones where
placed in recently cleaned rm. use genesis at
1000ppm, co2 at 1200 and 50/2ft lgt.
pHat 6.2, good circulation. rockwool slab
sys w/ drip every 2hrs. for 7mins.spots
are cocentric, and rarely go over veins.
often tips brown first. spots appear
in a day or two, leaf is covered and spots begin to
connect in 4 or 5 days... they are paperlike
and are apparent on both sides. not tob.
mosaic. definitely not mites or any
insect, have viewed w/ hand lens.two groups on
different resevoirs effected so not
nutrient, must be air born or viral. he cleaned room
with alc. and bleach, could it be airborne
pollution? what can he do or use. starting over
would break his heart. any way to clean
viruses? could so many variet. be affected by one
vir?
he asked me cause of my plant know.
but im stumped big time... you folks are the most
experienced knowlegeable i can think
of. are there any scientific references on species
spec. plant diseases and probs for this
group, it would make it so much easier.
Please E mail as i do not have access
but through library and friends. Anonymous address
as above, off course.
thank you
thank you!!!!!
Time 18:51, 17 Feb 1999
From trelaway
Flower power, the pic things are because you are hitting the space bar more than once.
I have a buddy who SOG's hydro and gets
about two pounds out of a regular 1k hps bulb.
Time 18:03, 17 Feb 1999
From flower power
sorry old timer 1 i am a little new at
this...wont go into extreme detail ...
when i refer to a light i am talking about a 1000 wthortilux bulb ( increased
my yield byroughly 20 percent by switching
from standard hps) my
flowering set up uses a mixof 2000 wt
hps / 1000 wt MH....give
myheavy ladiesapproximately 40 wts per
sq ft...... i am farely happy
withmy current production... was justcurious
of the yields of some sea of
green gardens....stick with
organics because i believe that the
earth produces the finest herbs!!!!!!!
Time 16:29, 17 Feb 1999
From trelaway
I'm with ot1 on the leaf curling thing.
It's the guage I used to use with chem ferts. Its not
serious, kinda like being on the cusp
of too much.
I had better results mixing hydro solutions
to about 80% and refilling with straight (ph'd)
water between changes.
Time 14:18, 17 Feb 1999
From OT (2)
Old Timer 1
I think you're being WAY too kind regarding
your analysis of 'Big Bud' - to get ONE good
plant you need alot more than 40 to
choose from - based on my experience.
IMHO it's a piece of crap that has as
its appeal the fantasy of someone clown making the
'big bucks' off of Big Bud.
Pathetic excuse for a personal/commercial crop.
But that's just my read on it - other's
mileage may differ.
Time 01:43, 17 Feb 1999
From oldtimer1
flower power You don't say the light
size, type, room size and whether you are growing
from seed or cuttings. Getting over
5 ounces per plant indoors is pretty dam good any
how!!! For production using cuttings
I expect to get 1.9 to 2.2 kilos per 20 sq ft of
canopy using 1 k of mixed light. When
growing from seed I don't take yield into account.
I’m selecting for form, quality of high
and whatever else I’m looking for. Haven't grown
Big bud for over 10 years it is so variable
that you need to grow 40 plus to get one good
one, the good ones are very good excellent
yield medium potency. Its form doesn't
unfortunately fit the profile I need.
KGB I’m an organic person but it sounds
like the start of over fertilisation, you just can’t
go by the amount of fertiliser you put
in especially with hydro you need to use a Cf and a
Ph pen. Its not magnesium deficiency
this starts with the older leaves going pale between
the veins. Also micro shouldn't be used
on its own. If you look on the main bcga page
there are loads of tried and tested
mixes for GH nutrients there, hope this helps.
For folk asking questions, To get relevant
answers it helps a lot to have the pertinent info
like are they seed/cuttings, on a grow/bloom
cycle, in hydro/soil etc.
Also its worth looking at weedbase and
using their search engine its superb.
All the best Ot1.
Time -3:49, 17 Feb 1999
From KGB
Hey Vic and all -
Speaking of deformities, I have this
wierd leaf curling phenomenon (dunno if it's a
problem) on my four week old Chronic
babies.The edges of the leaves curl upward,
but the tissue seems alive and healthy,
and the plants are vigorous.Is this a deformity
or simply a nute deficiency?I'm using
GH floramicro in the right quantities, so don't
think it's nutes.Some say Mg deficiency,
but I'm not sure.Whatcha say
bro?Should I be worried?
KGB
Time -3:45, 17 Feb 1999
From flower power
one more quick thing can any body who
wmay have grown big bud before please tell me
their max yield for a plant grown in
a organic settingwithout co2.....
overgrow the government!!!!!!!!!
Time -3:41, 17 Feb 1999
From flower power
can any of you guys spare a few moments
in order to compare the yield per sq ftor
yield per light of a sea of green application
as opposed to a standered organics set up
where plants are veg for about a month
in large 10 gallon containers. i choose to stick
with only abouta half dozen plants per
light due to my constant fear of the
legalramifications, currently yield
aprox 2 lbs per light, using a combination of big bud
and shiskaberry....
Time 08:52, 15 Feb 1999
From Vic High
OT1 - Oh I definately don't disbelieve
you and I'm going to be keeping a closer eye on
those deformed plants. Your hypothesis
would certainly explain why it was so easy to
virtually remove those deformities from
the 3rd generation stock.
Say I think i was having a bout of oldtimer
sickness yesterday, haha. I was flipping
through my flower photo album and my
salmon orange Abutilon had normal growth, and
the mottled one had the pale orange
flowers, haha. Maybe our two plants were clones?
haha. I lost mine when I took too long
to bring them indoors one fall. I lost my
bouganvillias as well, that was a rough
winter for me. I also lost a 12 year old pinus pinea
that I had forced to stay in juvenile
growth form, it looked like a soft and long needled
blue spruce. I also had the last of
a bunch of Eucalyptus nitens(sp) and delegatensis(sp)
that were imported by our forests ministry
for pulp trials. The nitens limped through that
winter but never recovered and eventually
died the next summer. Very sad year for my
plant collection. Our falls and winters
are very unpredictable. One winter we can go
without ever seeing a frost, the next
winter we can be hit so hard that they have to call out
the national guard to dig us out.
Time 06:11, 15 Feb 1999
From oldtimer1
occam Thanks that was just what I needed
to know!!! You didn't interrupt, this is an open
page and thats what its for, information
exchange!!! So thanks again! Vic no I don't think
its likely to have been that. It is
only apparent on the Blueberry when under low light
conditions as soon as it has enough
light to make some serious growth it disappears
completely. The same is true with the
infected cuts. I have destroyed the infected mum
and her backup is fine. Even if you
don't believe this is true keep it in mind for future
reference. Used to have a similar Abutilon
with two colour breaks of yellow and cream
blotches, with nice pale orange pendulous
flowers strange that, the borg got it!
All the best Ot1.
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