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From Vic High

OK guys, time to get back on topic. I've done a little housecleaning and all the relevent info is posted at:
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Time 16:22, 18 Feb 1999
From Dr. mezz

      has anyone ever tried obtaining CO2 through alternative methods.ie radioactive
      carbon-14 mixed with oxygen?Any thoughts would be appreciated.
      mezz
 
 

Time 11:44, 18 Feb 1999
From Orchid man

      The 380 gr plant was a mother that has been clones, she was at the middle of the grow
      room with the 5,400w set up.she was really big, did have all the air and fert she needed
      and gave only 380 gr.There is still a leaffy mother that grow buds so slowly , I'll
      die of cancer before she finishes up. no resin glands on this one.Although the budz
      don't show no resin glands as northen light would do, the stone is potent and the resin
      flow on the rolling paper . The potencyis not the problem..., the lies about the yield , along
      with the unstability wich bring a lot of guess work is very unpleasent. Really not
      impress, 15 years of indoor growing experience, i am not a newbie.
 
 

Time 10:59, 18 Feb 1999
From Orchid man

            Long time no see,Kong update,for those who would like to try the
      Kong, don't waiste your time and money on it, it is way too unstable and almost no resin
      glands. The yield is not so great and uyou would have to be very lucky to find the right
      mother in this mess of strains. My old strain, (northen light derivative) went faster and
      give very near the same yield. There is absolutely nothing special about the Kong, i am
      very mad to have waisted my time and effort to this unstable strain. It was grown under
      1000w hps and 4000w MHsalt fert, 1 plant= 380 gr. It was supposed to be at least
      2 pounds.For the same space and light, i would of have the same tield with my old
      strain.
 

Time -3:19, 18 Feb 1999
(marshwil@hotmail.com)

      a f.o.m. has been experiencing ongoing problems, grows nl5xhaze and shark, and afghan
      for hiv related illness. his plants get small orange/tan spots surrounded by deeper colored
      halo. like rust or h20 spot, not bulls eye, ... latest out break occurred with temps near 90 f
      and humidity at low low 30% to prevent fungus.last time captan was used (pre
      flower of course) and the humidity was lowered simultaneously, he believed the prob. was
      solved until newly rooted clones where placed in recently cleaned rm. use genesis at
      1000ppm, co2 at 1200 and 50/2ft lgt. pHat 6.2, good circulation. rockwool slab
      sys w/ drip every 2hrs. for 7mins.spots are cocentric, and rarely go over veins.
      often tips brown first. spots appear in a day or two, leaf is covered and spots begin to
      connect in 4 or 5 days... they are paperlike and are apparent on both sides. not tob.
      mosaic. definitely not mites or any insect, have viewed w/ hand lens.two groups on
      different resevoirs effected so not nutrient, must be air born or viral. he cleaned room
      with alc. and bleach, could it be airborne pollution? what can he do or use. starting over
      would break his heart. any way to clean viruses? could so many variet. be affected by one
      vir?
      he asked me cause of my plant know. but im stumped big time... you folks are the most
      experienced knowlegeable i can think of. are there any scientific references on species
      spec. plant diseases and probs for this group, it would make it so much easier.
      Please E mail as i do not have access but through library and friends. Anonymous address
      as above, off course.
      thank you
      thank you!!!!!
 
 

Time 18:51, 17 Feb 1999
From trelaway

      Flower power, the pic things are because you are hitting the space bar more than once.

      I have a buddy who SOG's hydro and gets about two pounds out of a regular 1k hps bulb.
 
 

Time 18:03, 17 Feb 1999
From flower power
 

      sorry old timer 1 i am a little new at this...wont go into extreme detail ...
             when i refer to a light i am talking about a 1000 wthortilux bulb ( increased
      my yield byroughly 20 percent by switching from standard hps) my
      flowering set up uses a mixof 2000 wt hps / 1000 wt MH....give
      myheavy ladiesapproximately 40 wts per sq ft...... i am farely happy
      withmy current production... was justcurious of the yields of some sea of
      green gardens....stick with
      organics because i believe that the earth produces the finest herbs!!!!!!!
 
 

Time 16:29, 17 Feb 1999
From trelaway

      I'm with ot1 on the leaf curling thing. It's the guage I used to use with chem ferts. Its not
      serious, kinda like being on the cusp of too much.

      I had better results mixing hydro solutions to about 80% and refilling with straight (ph'd)
      water between changes.
 
 

Time 14:18, 17 Feb 1999
From OT (2)

      Old Timer 1

      I think you're being WAY too kind regarding your analysis of 'Big Bud' - to get ONE good
      plant you need alot more than 40 to choose from - based on my experience.

      IMHO it's a piece of crap that has as its appeal the fantasy of someone clown making the
      'big bucks' off of Big Bud.

      Pathetic excuse for a personal/commercial crop.

      But that's just my read on it - other's mileage may differ.
 

Time 01:43, 17 Feb 1999
From oldtimer1

      flower power You don't say the light size, type, room size and whether you are growing
      from seed or cuttings. Getting over 5 ounces per plant indoors is pretty dam good any
      how!!! For production using cuttings I expect to get 1.9 to 2.2 kilos per 20 sq ft of
      canopy using 1 k of mixed light. When growing from seed I don't take yield into account.
      I’m selecting for form, quality of high and whatever else I’m looking for. Haven't grown
      Big bud for over 10 years it is so variable that you need to grow 40 plus to get one good
      one, the good ones are very good excellent yield medium potency. Its form doesn't
      unfortunately fit the profile I need.
      KGB I’m an organic person but it sounds like the start of over fertilisation, you just can’t
      go by the amount of fertiliser you put in especially with hydro you need to use a Cf and a
      Ph pen. Its not magnesium deficiency this starts with the older leaves going pale between
      the veins. Also micro shouldn't be used on its own. If you look on the main bcga page
      there are loads of tried and tested mixes for GH nutrients there, hope this helps.
      For folk asking questions, To get relevant answers it helps a lot to have the pertinent info
      like are they seed/cuttings, on a grow/bloom cycle, in hydro/soil etc.
      Also its worth looking at weedbase and using their search engine its superb.
      All the best Ot1.

Time -3:49, 17 Feb 1999
From KGB

      Hey Vic and all -

      Speaking of deformities, I have this wierd leaf curling phenomenon (dunno if it's a
      problem) on my four week old Chronic babies.The edges of the leaves curl upward,
      but the tissue seems alive and healthy, and the plants are vigorous.Is this a deformity
      or simply a nute deficiency?I'm using GH floramicro in the right quantities, so don't
      think it's nutes.Some say Mg deficiency, but I'm not sure.Whatcha say
      bro?Should I be worried?

      KGB
 
 

Time -3:45, 17 Feb 1999
From flower power

      one more quick thing can any body who wmay have grown big bud before please tell me
      their max yield for a plant grown in a organic settingwithout co2.....
         overgrow the government!!!!!!!!!
 
 

Time -3:41, 17 Feb 1999
From flower power

      can any of you guys spare a few moments in order to compare the yield per sq ftor
      yield per light of a sea of green application as opposed to a standered organics set up
      where plants are veg for about a month in large 10 gallon containers. i choose to stick
      with only abouta half dozen plants per light due to my constant fear of the
      legalramifications, currently yield aprox 2 lbs per light, using a combination of big bud
      and shiskaberry....
 

Time 08:52, 15 Feb 1999
From Vic High

      OT1 - Oh I definately don't disbelieve you and I'm going to be keeping a closer eye on
      those deformed plants. Your hypothesis would certainly explain why it was so easy to
      virtually remove those deformities from the 3rd generation stock.

      Say I think i was having a bout of oldtimer sickness yesterday, haha. I was flipping
      through my flower photo album and my salmon orange Abutilon had normal growth, and
      the mottled one had the pale orange flowers, haha. Maybe our two plants were clones?
      haha. I lost mine when I took too long to bring them indoors one fall. I lost my
      bouganvillias as well, that was a rough winter for me. I also lost a 12 year old pinus pinea
      that I had forced to stay in juvenile growth form, it looked like a soft and long needled
      blue spruce. I also had the last of a bunch of Eucalyptus nitens(sp) and delegatensis(sp)
      that were imported by our forests ministry for pulp trials. The nitens limped through that
      winter but never recovered and eventually died the next summer. Very sad year for my
      plant collection. Our falls and winters are very unpredictable. One winter we can go
      without ever seeing a frost, the next winter we can be hit so hard that they have to call out
      the national guard to dig us out.
 
 

Time 06:11, 15 Feb 1999
From oldtimer1

      occam Thanks that was just what I needed to know!!! You didn't interrupt, this is an open
      page and thats what its for, information exchange!!! So thanks again! Vic no I don't think
      its likely to have been that. It is only apparent on the Blueberry when under low light
      conditions as soon as it has enough light to make some serious growth it disappears
      completely. The same is true with the infected cuts. I have destroyed the infected mum
      and her backup is fine. Even if you don't believe this is true keep it in mind for future
      reference. Used to have a similar Abutilon with two colour breaks of yellow and cream
      blotches, with nice pale orange pendulous flowers strange that, the borg got it!

      All the best Ot1.
 
 
 


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