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All That is Delitefully Savage
Savage Garden on Regis and Kathie Lee
Savage Garden - YM Magazine
Savage Garden has no illusions about reasons for its success




All That is Delitefully Savage

Savage Garden are in the middle of their first ever major venue Brisbane performance. It's May 1997 and we're in Australia the country Darren Hayes and Daniel Jones don't yet realize they'll be away from for 300 out of the 365 days that are currently flashing by. This is their hometown, and this is a special night for them. Family and friends are in the audience and it has to be something spectacular. For the most part, they have been professional, but it's obvious that they're tip-toeing and feeling their way through the 'live..musical..performance..experience' and the usually hysterical crowd reaction that accompanies it. Hayes is sweating, and when one sweats, one has to dry the sweat from their body, hence the reason for the towel onstage. But after his latest flurry of brow-wiping, right in the middle of a stirring performance of "Mine", Hayes decides to throw the towel into the throng of people pressed up against the edge of the stage. Uh oh. Bad move. This piece of cloth is considered pure gold by most of the 2000-strong crowd of teenage girl fans that have been screaming, crying and dancing to the music of this latest pop sensation for the last ninety minutes. Bedlam reigns for the next twenty. A tug of war which started out as a battle between fifteen admirers has dwindled down to two and at times three bloodthirsty collectors (depending on the bravery of the rest of the girls) who want a nice memory to bring home after the concert. Guaranteed they'll all bring home a piece of the memory, but oblivious to all this, on stage under the bright blinding lights, the music goes on. Such is the arena of super-stardom. This is just getting Hayes and Jones ready for the dream they've been striving for the past six years. 'Really? A fight broke out?', ponders the concerned singer, backstage after the gig. 'I had no idea'. Ironically this happened during one of the more slow tempo, passive tracks on the entire album -- a track that most of the world who owns the self-titled platinum debut album won't even get to hear. "Mine" was released in Australia, but not on the Sony/Columbia version of the album elsewhere because of the religious content. 'Yeah, we were told it was "lyrically overblown, offensive and quite frankly has no place in the American market" because of its "religious overtones".' The lyric is 'I bear all the crosses and the crucifixes you can provide'. Hayes continues to explain the meaning behind the track. 'It's just about being a martyr basically; it's saying "you want to nail this on me, you want to hang this on me, whatever, I'll do it all, if you can just make a decision here, if you can just acknowledge that there's something happening here". 'It's about all the love I kind of have. I'm a very devoted person and a very faithful person. It's funny. I guess I realize in the face of all that, I'm a selfish person because I want everything I can't have. I fall in love every day and I'm attracted to all sorts of people. ["Mine"] is about feelings I've had for a couple of people and they will never know. They'll never have any idea and that's what the lyric is about. "You don't have to die to leave my world, just stand still and you've departed". It's actually inspired by the film "The Age Of Innocence". Imagine the one thing or the one love you could never have. I found that so tragic and I could relate to it in a lot of ways. With people that I've adored and obsessed over. So that's what the song was about. Just a twist in time and maybe things could be different.
'That's where most of the songs on the album come from, a place in Hayes' history. Usually moments in time that have moved him or changed his life. "Truly Madly, Deeply" was actually written for my girl.' Hayes' girl being, of course, his wife of two years Colby Taylor. There's a lyric in the "Night Radio" mix of the track which gives away the personal sentiment of the song. 'The mix on the album was done in Melbourne and for some reason they just didn't include that lyric ["I love you"]. I didn't really care at the time; I think the producer thought it might be a bit corny so he didn't put it in. When it went to England (to be mixed), I felt cool about it, because I thought, "No; this song is as good as it'll ever get, let's see what they can do with it". So no instructions were given and they didn't stray too far but they did include that. The only time you hear it is if you listen to it in headphones and it's in one ear. It actually whispers in your ear. That's how I recorded it and I wanted it to be panned left or right and that's what they did with it.'
It's obvious that Savage Garden are in show business for the love of the music and the thrill of the industry. They're big fans of subtle nuances in their work, ranging from panning vocals in "A Thousand Words" to playing different characters as in "All Around Me". 'I am a huge fan of stuff like that, stuff that only fans would pick up. Really subtle stuff. It's just little things that you know if someone doesn't like your music, then screw them and they don't deserve to hear it. They're not things that make or break the song but interesting things that really top it off. I really enjoy panning vocals, like in "Break Me Shake Me" there's stuff like that which are actually panned out so far that on some stereos you can't hear them. If you're listening to it in a very mono situation you wouldn't hear it at all.'
Jones seems to prefer staying in the background, doing the blue collar work which is the instrumentation and everything electronic. He has an almost pedantic nature about him, needing to write, re-write and perfect his art to the best of his ability. "Fire Inside The Man", one of their earlier tracks which appeared as a B-Side to the original release of "I Want You" has since been deleted. 'It's a song that unfortunately Savage Garden shouldn't have recorded or performed, but it's definitely a song where Darren and I actually looked at each other and learned a lot about our song writing together,' muses Jones. He ponders some more and offers further explanation. 'It was a bit of a change for us, it was one of the early songs we had written together and we looked at each other and thought, "this isn't quite us" because we were still finding ourselves. And I think we still will be in ten years time.' 'Do you think it was us for about a week?' Hayes turns and asks. Jones replies with a short sigh. 'There were certain elements within that song that changed in the recording of this record that were in the demo. In the recording process our producer came on board and heard that reggae feel and said "let's make it a reggae song, a little more so". It was the odd one out at the end; it was the one track that wasn't ours, even though we wrote it. As a demo it was probably more ours, but we started to see what shape this band was taking and it just didn't fit it.' Hayes adds, '"Fire" is my least favourite song and we'll never ever do it live. Actually you'll never see that song again, it's been deleted. It's just a bit too cute and we want to stop being cute.'
Motown music has been a major driving force behind what inspires Savage Garden, and everyone from The Supremes to Michael Jackson to Hot Chocolate to Duran Duran play a part. Someone Hayes has a particular affinity for is the Artist Formerly Known As Prince. I asked him about what influenced the vocal arrangements on "Violet". 'It's just that I'm a big Prince fan and I love the way he arranged a lot of his vocals. I have to admit I got everyone I know into Prince. I like to say that because, I remember when I just got "Purple Rain" and that changed my life. When I was in grade eight I got a walkman and listened to that all the time and that's probably the reason why I make music today. I've never really gotten into "For You" and all that stuff even though I adore Prince. I think my favourite records are "Sign Of The Times" and the "Love Symbol" and "Black Album". I love the new record ["Emancipation"]. I just think it's great. There's a lot of songs on "Gold" that I love too. Hayes ponders for a few more seconds as if reaching into the recesses of his mind for further information about something he's obviously enthused about. So I ask him about the Prince influences on the record. '"In Carry On Dancing, there's a line about the dawn in there -- "You're never safe 'til you see the dawn" -- and I was thinking that it sounds very much like Prince.' I wait for his reaction which takes a few seconds in coming. 'It's weird. I never even picked that up myself. I do believe in God and I think more than anything Prince is a much cooler religion or access to God than the church ever was. I've never really been a church goer. I consider myself a Christian but I don't actually think church is evil. They're corrupt and thank goodness Prince isn't afraid to admit sex is great and being funky is great and you know he still believes in God and goodness and stuff so that always comes through. But "Violet", I have to say, is very Prince inspired for me.' I ask him if he's ever heard the Prince track, "She's Always in My Hair", trying to allude to the fact that the opening lyrics are almost identical to those of "Fire Inside The Man". He responds with an affirmative, 'Yeah, great B-side, beautiful song.' 'Do you know the first set of lyrics?' I tentatively ask. '"Fire Inside The Man", 'is that what you're referring to?' He knew straight away what I was getting at. The funny thing is, I only realized that in retrospect. That's what's so weird about the copyright thing. It's a totally different melody, but I realized that what I was trying to do with that song was write "She's Always In My Hair". Because I love that song and I think it's a really honest love song.' In a bizarre twist of fate, the similarities don't end there. Chris Lord-Alge who has worked with Prince in the past, and appears in the credits for the "Batman" soundtrack, actually did all the mixing on Savage Garden's album. Their management team also includes Bob Cavallo, who did the same job for Prince in the early 80s as he now does for Savage Garden. 'It was great talking to Bob about Prince and the whole Purple Rain era,' said Hayes, 'it was really interesting'.
Present day. At rehearsals for the new tour, attractively titled 'The Future Of Earthly Delites', the excitement and anticipation can be felt in the air. Some of the best people in the Australian music industry are working on this show and it's obvious. The lighting is amazing. The backdrop is a cityscape almost directly taken from a raw cut of "Bladerunner", another inspiration for Hayes. The disco balls hanging from the ceiling, the Japanese dragons to each side of the main stage and the 20 foot catwalk into the crowd are all due to personal input from Hayes and Jones. The influence in set design and costume choice range from U2 to oriental to camp choreography. They've worked hard to get here, and the passion shows in their hard work and dedication to the task at hand. Hayes belts out a revamped version of their signature tune, progressing to a lightning fast version of the famous 'chica-cherry cola' verse. In one of the scarce rehearsal breaks, Jones can be seen strolling around with his trusty headphones on, analysing a fresh DAT recording. Most of the music for this production has been given a facelift. Fresh arrangements and differently sung lyrics add to the overall appeal of the show. Good news for those that enjoy "Fire Inside the Man" -- often avoided by Savage Garden. There's an acoustically inspired version of it in the tour that most won't recognise. There are quite a few other surprises thrown in for good measure and Hayes is confident no one will leave disappointed. 'This is a journey into our world, and we're saying, "hey here's the ticket to come on board, and if you want to be along for the ride, then great".'
Backtrack even earlier than before, to the end of March 1997. Savage Garden have just finished a stripped down acoustic set at Brisbane's Carindale Shopping Centre, their first live performance in the city they grew up in, three days after their debut album release on 24 March. The mini-concert was quite impressive, giving fans of the first three singles a taste of what else the album had in store. 'It wasn't really meant to be a show,' explains Hayes. 'To be honest they were supposed to put chairs out and have an unplugged feel.' I quipped, 'I noticed your throat was getting a bit red.' 'I don't know if it's the flu or whatever, but I was really sick. I'd just come from the doctors and had an antibiotics injection and my voice wasn't too crash hot, but it was fantastic. To be honest I get that just from adrenaline, it's not even nerves, I always get red on stage. I was actually feeling like I wanted to pass out, but it was so exciting. [The public] were just so into it. It was great.'
At dinner later that night, Hayes proves he's a true vegan by ordering a Caesar Salad without the bacon or anchovies. 'Fish is still a meat,' he explains. 'It just sits inside your stomach and rots.' Earlier, upon arrival, a female friend gave him a surprise gift. Three classic Star Wars erasers and, knowing he's been too busy to get to the cinema, ticket stubs to "The Empire Strikes Back". 'I still haven't seen that yet,' Hayes exclaims in reference to the revamped second installment of the timeless trilogy. "Star Wars" being yet another favourite pastime if his. 'I hope it's still screening. When does "Return [Of The Jedi]" come out?' But this was before all the fame and the world-wide commotion that "I Want You" and "Truly, Madly, Deeply" have caused. After holding steady for two weeks in the number one spot in the States, "Truly" succumbed to the rest of the Top 10. The single was deleted, due to an intense marketing strategy which encourages punters to buy the album. No more tip-toeing. Savage Garden have embraced the rock 'n' roll scene and are ready to unleash their futuristic brainchild in sell-out venues all over Australia. Then they move onto Europe and America, displaying what they have to offer to almost anyone who will listen. And listen they will, as record sales and the victory of eleven ARIA awards have definitely proven. This is what they've worked for, this is the passion that drives them. Their dream has finally been realized and the scary thing is that it's still just the tip of the iceberg. Expect a lot more towel tug-of-wars in the years to come. Savage Garden are here to stay.

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Savage Garden on Regis and Kathie Lee

First aired January 19th, 1998
Reruned on March 18th, 1998

Savage Garden was introduced. Darren, Daniel, and the other band members performed an acoustic version of Truly Madly Deeply and then they did an interview.

Regis & Kathie Lee: Great sound! Nice to meet you, great sound! Hi, everybody!
Regis: This is Darren Hayes, the lead singer, and Daniel Jones on the keyboard--great sound, really.
Kathie Lee: When we heard Savage Garden, I gotta be honest with you, we thought it was Mrs. Greenthumb's segment. And that's the lady who does gardening tips!
Regis: Or guys who were going to break guitars...
Kathie Lee: And all these beautiful sounds come out! We're not used to that anymore, you know?
Darren: Thank you, that's great.
Kathie Lee: Very mellow.
Regis: So how did you two guys meet?
Daniel: Um, we met about five years ago by an advert that I actually placed in a magazine...
Kathie Lee: One of those personal ads, huh?
Daniel: Yeah, well, not quite personal! And I was advertising for a lead vocalist and Darren came along.
Regis (to Darren): You put the ad in the paper?
Darren: No, Daniel did (points at Daniel), and I was searching through the music trader and we hooked up, and it's been six years.
Regis: That's how I met her (points at Kathie Lee). I put an ad in the paper and she came!
Darren: I'm not listening. I don't need to hear that!
Regis: And this was in Australia?
Daniel: Yes.
Regis: And you selected the band?
Daniel: Yeah, we met these guys in Australia over the last twelve months, I guess.
Regis: Where do you meet guys like that?
Daniel: Um, in the personal columns! You meet everyone there!
Regis: Boy! You never know who you're gonna meet in those columns!
Kathie Lee (pointing to the backup vocalists): And what about these two lovely ladies here?
Darren: They're amazing, aren't they?
Regis & Kathie Lee: Yes, they are!
Kathie Lee: Got that animal-thing going!
Regis: So you all travel together?
Daniel: Yes.
Regis: One big happy, uh, band.
Darren: A happy little Savage family!
Regis: And incidentally, this music, this is global, it's all over the world, and that's what you've been doing, traveling from country to country.
Darren: We have. I mean, look, we spent about a year writing songs, before we met these guys, before we had a deal. Then we made a record, and um, ever since it's been released, we've been traveling around the world and it's been great and we're happy to be here, it's great!
Daniel: We've actually visited over 40 countries in the last 12 months.
Kathie Lee: But we're you're favorite, right?
Daniel: Well, America's up there, yeah!
Kathie Lee: Which countries do you really like?
Daniel: Well, I actually like Canada, Canada's really nice, and Scandanavia area, that whole Sweden, Denmark.
Regis: When you work in, say, the Asian countries, do they understand the language and so on? (Kathie Lee touches Darren's spikey hair) She's picking at you!
Kathie Lee: Just wanted to know how he did that little Johnny Depp-thing going on there!!!
Darren: You know, we got mobbed in actual once, and it scared the living daylights.
Regis: What country mobbed you?
Darren: It was Singapore, which we were happy about. We're arriving at the airport, we hear people screaming, and I say to Daniel, "I think there's a celebrity at the airport." And we poke our bags out and they're screaming at us and there's 600 people and they mob us, and they squirt water guns at us!
Kathie Lee: Water guns???
Darren: Absolutely!
Regis: So what about the name Savage Garden? Where did that come from?
Darren: It's not a heavy metal band. It actually comes from...and it's an American writer called Anne Rice, and I think she's from New Orleans. Yes, she writes all these vampire novels and stuff. And in her vampire book, she describes their world as a "savage garden." I thought it was fitting, and now we can't quite work out why we chose the name.
Regis: But it doesn't really fit the music?
Darren: Well, it does in a lot of ways because, she is very romantic, and um, you know, it's as simple as looking at a rose --- the rose is the most beautiful flower, but it has a thorn and it can cut you. And I think that musically, we feel that we make pop music and there's beauty, but there's also seriousness in it.
Kathie Lee: Cuts through.
Darren: Yeah.
Regis: Well, they've appeared in Madison Square Garden here in New York. And this is the CD that keeps them going here. Congratulations on the tremendous job!
Kathie Lee: Great sound!


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Savage Garden - YM Magazine

YM-August 1998

luscious lineup:Darren Hayes, vocals; Daniel Jones, keyboard and guitar
album:Savage Garden. Darren and Daniel always wanted to be famous. Only a year after the two Australian dudes decided to be musicians, they hit the big time with their first single: the 1997 smash, "I Want You." "We've always had it really easy," says Darren of their success. "We dedicated a year of our lives to writing songs and sending out demos. Then we waited for record companies to call us." And that's exactly what happened-probably because of Savage Garden's catchy melodies. Their second single, "Truly Madly Deeply," kept their self-titled CD on the charts for more than one year. (On Dawson's Creek, Dawson even listened to it after he got dumped.) Let's get to know Savage Garden's sweeties.
YM:What would you do if you weren't in a band?
DH:I'd probably work for a magazine or write novels.
YM:What's your fave scent on a girl?
DJ:I like Fendi and the classic Chanel Number Five.
YM:What do you find hard to resist in a girl?
DJ:I love long slim arms, though I'm not sure why.
DH:Full lips.
YM:What's the coolest thing about the U.S.?
DH:It's Americans' attitude towards success. In America, success is encouraged. Back home, if you did something like hold a trophy over your head at an awards ceremony, you'd be laughed off the stage.
Ever had any Say Anything slipups?
DH:I walked into a clear glass pane at my favourite Thai restaurant back home. I was wearing lip balm, so I left lip marks. The restaurant owner still tells people, "The guy from Savage Garden walked into our window."


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Savage Garden has no illusions about reasons for its success

Vancouver Sun - July 4th, 1998
By: Shawn Ohler

"Savage Garden is a young pop band without any credibility."
A nasty shot from a jaded critic? Harsh words from a disgruntled ex-fan?
Nope. That little condemnation comes straight from the mouth of Daniel Jones, Savage Garden's guitarist and resident realist.
Jones, who co-founded the suddenly huge Australian duo with heartthrob singer Darren Hayes, makes no apologies for courting a teenage audience with unashamedly pop songs.
"It's true. I don't have a problem with it. The right way to do it is to pick up a young audience, which we have, and then grow with that audience," Jones said recently from his home in Brisbane, on a break from a world tour that hit Edmonton Coliseum Thursday and comes to Vancouver's GM Place on Sunday.
"Hopefully, in 10 years' time, some of our 15-year old fans will be 25 and a little bit more matured. Then we can be more matured in our music. If you pick up a 35-year old audience first up, a lot of those 35-year olds don't grow up with you. They're still listening to the Eagles.
"I don't think it's a bad thing to be a young pop band without any credibility. I think we'll grow into ourselves."
Jones said critics who attack his band for its middle-of-the-road sound and fast climb up the charts have got it all wrong.
"Music is fun. We're not trying to save the world or find a cure for cancer," he said. "We're just playing music and if it works, great. And if it doesn't, it's not the end of the world."
You could say it's working. Five years ago, Hayes and Jones were playing smallish venues around Brisbane in a "dodgy" band called Red Edge. The pair quit the group and started to strictly write songs with each other, incorporating more of a keyboard-based sound.
Savage Garden was born. The band's self-titled debut album, fuelled by the success of the gushing, Europop-inspired single I Want You,exploded all over the world, hitting seven-times platinum (700 000 copies sold) in Canada alone.
Jones, the band's shy guy instrumentalist, and Hayes, its charismatic frontman, found themselves playing arenas in front of several thousand people.
"It's hard to actually comprehend what's happened to us in a lot of ways. It's been 24 months of very hard work, and in that time you actually forget what you're actually achieving. It's a little surreal," he said.
"It has been a short, scary ride, which may have some consequences for the next record."
Jones said fans can find clues in what Savage Garden's next album will sound like from the band's live show.
"Our show is a lot more energetic than the album, a lot more revved up, a bit louder and more aggressive and in-your face. It goes through sections where it lets its hair down. I think those things will apply to the next album," he said. "We'll have a lot of balance, as well, with the pop ballads that we do. But a 12-song set of pop ballads can get pretty boring. For us, music is a pretty physical thing, so you have to get up there and bash it out."
Ideally, Jones said, that will set them apart from bands like Spice Girls and Backstreet Boys, both acts to which Savage Garden's often compared.
"I think there's more to our band than those bands. We have to prove that. We have to have consistency again on the next album and in our performances," he said.
"And if we don't then we weren't up for it in the first place."



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