(Below) Copyright by Dawn and Deanna 1998 (Above) Copyright by Standard Thompson 2000
Loren (left) and Ben Vandenburghe (coverboy on "Because You're Young") at the end of thier set at MotorMania, opening for Dogstar!
These are all during the MotorMania show on Sept. 5th, 1998
Nick on the left, Loren in the Middle, Mike H. on the right, and Mike M. on the drums in the back.

That is if you can see them.
These pics are bad due to the inside venue and whats with the red lights?
copyright by standard thompson
These are from a poster I got from Nick from one of their previous shows.
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