Archive-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 23:10:37 PST Sender: owner-viewing_stones@triumf.ca Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 23:10:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynn boyd Reply-To: Lynn boyd To: viewing_stones@triumf.ca Subject: A Rock Hunt on Vancouver Island Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII A Rock Hunt on Vancouver Island, B.C.: Although one rock hunt might pass as a day's entertainment, or as a quick treasure hunt any time it is undertaken, there is the rock hunt that involves miles and hours of driving into strange new territory. This if shared is an inspiration to search further, search harder and enjoy nature beyond our usual haunts. I returned a few days ago from such a trip in British Columbia. My Canadian host, Anton Nijhuis and his wife, Marcy, made that trip unequalled in previous experience both by the territory Anton could introduce with his full knowledge of its geological history and formations and an appropriate approach for finding rock, but, also, by his deft handling of a four-wheel drive over roads he well knew. It is taking me too much time to learn the knack of of just "looking" among thick rock populations on a beach for just the RIGHT rock. To this effort of learning I must credit Chris Cochrane for a good and steady guide example. I limited my beginning search to three kinds of stones, a suiseki landscape stone, a floral or a chrysanthemum stone and any acceptable puddle stone. Limited to the three I still found myself slower by yards (metres in BC) than Anton or Chris were and often falling behind in territory that my host was convincing me harbored some bears and cougers - all hungry. Cougars had attacked children in town. Floral stones were what I might call abundant - 2 or 3 every 3-4 yards on the beaches of The Strait of Georgia at Campbell River, BC. They were also to be found in the moun- tainous areas a little further north and on inland rivers, in- cluding the Campbell River, most famous for salmon, generally. The narrow waterway on the coast there was Discovery Passage. I found floral stones in three different compositions, one a greenish stone, like a large pebble, another contained besides the bursts of white flowers a black thin speckle, but the third and my favorite was a hard, black, smooth reflective surface stone that in my findings invariably showed a cleavage that produced a stone with edges of distinct geometry and, in fact, my best find I think was a large stone of this type that has many white "unexploded" flowers but two large, at least an inch size, flowers - impressive -in my inexperience, perhaps. Of puddle stones I can claim no success, though there were some among Chris' collection, one which he generously gave me because I wished to have one for a gift for a friend (you have it Roland). Others did not fill my expectations though I believe the unusual nature of a few might have proved very interesting to a more sophisticated taste. Sadly, I did not find a landscape stone of a size and nature that I kept to bring home, though I certainly carried some doubtfuls in my back pack long enough to have earned one. An unusually colorful stone, the Dallasite, showed up frequently and had the rough and colorful surface that draws the eye quickly, but I am finding such vivid color does not lead me to landscape abstractions very easily. I am inclined to be enticed into their collection by the "pretty stone" syndrome that I am trying hard to avoid - having gathered and tired of enough of those over the years to know they do not last with me, rather like slick paintings their slim complexity is soon diminished. There are limestone deposits in the mountainous area we were in, however, those with the most desirable characteristics are still under snow. The deposits Anton showed us how to recognize by topography under their cover of rain forest growth did have some promise, but our time and energy were running short, and we promised to be back when the snow has retreated yet more. This area of search is large and uncrowded, yet not difficult to move about. Anton could very well inform whether or not its type of stone is equal in quality and quantity to other areas much better than I. My stone observations are only beginning to have direction and recognition. I do invite Anton to correct any misleading information as to rocks, locale and names given waterways and sites. Lynn boyd@peak.org Corvallis, Ore ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 02:17:18 PST Sender: owner-viewing_stones@triumf.ca From: "Craig Coussins" Reply-To: "Craig Coussins" To: "Lynn boyd" , Subject: Re: A Rock Hunt on Vancouver Island Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:15:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Sharing and discovering is what we should all try and do for each other. I was told about a new site for Limestone Scholar stones in the North of England near the Lake District. They are simply amazing. My friend showed me a few including a truly fantastic one that resembles a Peacocks head. It really looks like one. will try and get something together as soon as I can. With all the rocks about we can all share the excitement of shared discovery. Yours sincerely, Craig Coussins. Site is at: http://www.btinternet.com/~craig.coussins/ Come visit any time. ---------- > From: Lynn boyd > To: viewing_stones@triumf.ca > Subject: A Rock Hunt on Vancouver Island > Date: 10 April 1998 07:10 > > ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:24:29 PST Sender: owner-viewing_stones@triumf.ca From: Bunjin gi Reply-To: Bunjin gi Message-ID: <1aaa583e.352e8e05@aol.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:24:18 EDT To: viewing_stones@triumf.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Vancouver Island Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lynn: Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I could picture the searching - most of mine is done on the coastal parts of New England (which I adore). I think there is much to be gleaned from such nomadic ramblings. Before I knew anything about suiseki, I would often rummage around the beach looking for odd stones. A friend of mine inspired me. He was a renowned wood engraver (maybe you have heard of him, Fritz Eichenberg - he illustrated many classic books in the 30's - 80's: Wuthering Heights, the Brother Karamazov, etc.) who has since passed away but had lived near me in Rhode Island. He would collect small stones, weathered driftwood, etc at his beach house on Nantucket Island in Massachusetts and paint whimsical caricatures of creatures, people, etc on them. They adorned 3 full length shelves in his living room and were fantastic. He was truly an artistic genius. When I went to visit a friend in New Mexico 6 years ago, I got lost in the desert hills for 3 hours just looking for bits of stone and fossils. It wasn't until 3 or 4 years ago that I began to read and find interest in suiseki (I still consider myself a novice). I envy you for getting out there on Vancouver Island with someone who knows the geography - sounded great! Have a good Easter / Passover. John ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 20:38:02 PST Sender: owner-viewing_stones@triumf.ca From: "Chris Cochrane" Reply-To: "Chris Cochrane" To: "Lynn boyd" , Subject: Re: A Rock Hunt on Vancouver Island Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:27:30 -0400 Message-ID: <01bd64f9$c23db460$b23eaccf@sashai.erols.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Great post, Lynn. Anton and Marcie were indeed generous hosts to visiting friends. They shared themselves, their family (including a hockey-puck wielding son, an animated Swedish grandma, a black Lab and a cat) and their stories of Vancouver Island and the American West. They've traveled much and experienced sites I could only imagine. In there descriptions, remote areas of Vancouver Island, Montana, Wyoming (Marcie's home), the "4 Corners" et al. seem real yet surreal. Anton is especially good at describing people that one might overlook, and recognizing their genuine qualities. I found from Lynn that Anton at one time kept up a correspondence with Timothy Leary. I'd like to hear more of that, gentle Swede. On a stone hunt, however, Anton is all business. His long legs, quick eyes and huge hands discovered stones rapidly. Lynn and I, in comparison, appeared to be looking at the shine on our shoes. After spying Anton's selection, however, we also began to "see" better. Lynn well covered several of the stones we found. Additionally, Anton tried to get us to the site where he has posted mineral rights. It contains limestone deposits revealed in a karst landscape where much underground stone has dissipated due acid eating it away. Numerous sink-holes dot the area. While snow prevented us from reaching Anton's richest limestone collecting site, the stones used as garden rocks in his backyard look like Chinese Lake Tai stones-- corrugated and often pierced. They are an off-white color as collected and in Vancouver's high humidity appear to have a slight gray cast. Anton has experimented with Muriatic acid (full-strength 31.5% HCl) on small examples of these stones and finds that the acid reveals a shiny, black limestone underneath the normal white facing. Anyone familiar with the black rather than gray variety Chinese Ying Tak rocks used for penjing would say Anton's stone must be related. Anton's may be better in that it displays few inclusions of white mineral veining which is sometimes distracting in Ying Tak rocks. Anton sent us back to the States with some of the wonderful salmon to which we were treated in his home. Where did that salmon go, Lynn? ... :-))) Another treat of visiting Anton is visiting his wonderful bonsai library. I was intrigued by several books and really impressed by Tom Zane's _Intermediate Bonsai: A Course Syllabus_. I'm surprised to have not heard more of it. Spending hours in remote areas of such a beautiful place as Northern Vancouver Island is an incredible privilege. To share those sites with friends such as Anton and Lynn adds value to that privilege. Thank you Anton and Marcie for a spectacular introduction to your Island home. Thanks Lynn for your wit and charm... and for slowing Anton's breathless pace. Chris... C. Cochrane, mailto:sashai@erols.com, Richmond VA USA ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 19:52:49 PST Sender: owner-viewing_stones@triumf.ca Message-ID: <35304A6A.2556D5AA@ebicom.net> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 22:00:26 -0700 From: Erick Platt Reply-To: Erick Platt MIME-Version: 1.0 To: viewing_stones@triumf.ca Subject: Trial Run Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm new to this list and this art. Just trying to see if I'm signed on. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 21:16:06 PST Sender: owner-viewing_stones@triumf.ca Message-ID: Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 22:15:32 -0700 To: viewing_stones@triumf.ca From: S Martin Reply-To: S Martin Subject: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Review ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 20:42:21 PST Sender: owner-viewing_stones@triumf.ca From: "Garry Garcia" Reply-To: "Garry Garcia" To: "Erick Platt" , Subject: Re: Trial Run Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 22:41:48 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd668e$16599240$9e5f47cc@ggarcia.vvm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It appears as though you made it, you are signed on. Garry -----Original Message----- From: Erick Platt To: viewing_stones@triumf.ca Date: Saturday, April 11, 1998 9:59 PM Subject: Trial Run >I'm new to this list and this art. Just trying to see if I'm signed on. > ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 19:19:03 PST Sender: owner-viewing_stones@triumf.ca From: "Garry Garcia" Reply-To: "Garry Garcia" To: "Suiseki Newsgroup" CC: "Hinterreiter Franz" Subject: Fw: Suiseki Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 21:18:11 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd674b$92a77ca0$e7aa61ce@ggarcia.vvm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002E_01BD6721.A9D174A0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01BD6721.A9D174A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everyone, Received three very nice pictures of Suiseki/Viewing Stones, I favor the Owl. I have added the owl to the International Collectors Gallery with all measurements, etc. Please if you have a chance drop Hinterreiter a short / long note, his e-mail address is Cc'd and is also on my site. 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13 Apr 1998 21:23:00 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd674c$3eba15c0$e7aa61ce@ggarcia.vvm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Not sure if this made it. sorry if it came twice Garry -----Original Message----- From: Garry Garcia To: Suiseki Newsgroup Cc: Hinterreiter Franz Date: Monday, April 13, 1998 9:18 PM Subject: Fw: Suiseki >Hi everyone, > >Received three very nice pictures of Suiseki/Viewing Stones, I favor the >Owl. I have added the owl to the International Collectors Gallery with all >measurements, etc. Please if you have a chance drop Hinterreiter a short / >long note, his e-mail address is Cc'd and is also on my site. > >Enjoy > >Garry Garcia > >www.vvm.com/~ggarcia > >ggarcia@vvm.com > >-- > > > ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 19:22:05 PST Sender: owner-viewing_stones@triumf.ca From: "Garry Garcia" Reply-To: "Garry Garcia" To: "Hinterreiter Franz" CC: Subject: Re: Viewing Stones Newsgroup Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 21:21:25 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd6815$30cbb3a0$795f47cc@ggarcia.vvm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, it was my pleasure to add your stone to my site. To subscribe, go to Viewing_stones@triumf.ca and type in Subscribe at the subject area, you will receive a note telling you that you have successfu= lly subscribed to the mailing list. Like I said previously, the group is a little quite at the moment ( many = are out on field collecting trips), but there are many good things happening, and alot of good information on books, various styles, and points of contact. I hope a few more decide to write you and give their opinion on your view= ing stones / suiseki. There are some very famous collectors in the group, an= d their opinion is listened to by most, I see that you have already receive= d one note from Chris C. He has many years experience with both Suiseki an= d Bonsai, as many in this group do, he spoke most favorably about your ston= es. I would ask others in the group to please welcome Hinterreiter, and take = a look at his suiseki, they are good. I was a little disappointed to see t= hat only one person responded to the note I sent last night with the pictures attached. Or perhaps you responded and I just did not know. I do think Hinterreiter is going to become a member of the mailing list, = so when he does please make him feel welcome. Garry -----Original Message----- From: Hinterreiter Franz To: Garry Garcia Date: Tuesday, April 14, 1998 1:27 PM Subject: Viewing Stones Newsgroup >Hi Garry! > >Thanks for adding my "Owl" on your site. >I didn=B4t find the Viewing Stones Newsgroup. Please tell me how to find. >I=B4m working hardly on my Suisek-Site. > >Talk to you later > ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 12:50:56 PST Sender: owner-viewing_stones@triumf.ca Message-ID: <199804152003.WAA18113@ns2.asn-linz.ac.at> From: "Hinterreiter Franz" Reply-To: "Hinterreiter Franz" To: Subject: Subscribe Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 21:46:31 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Susiseki Fans! My name is Franz Hinterreiter and I live in Austria. When I read the boo= k Suiseki by Willi Benz in 1996=20 I started to collect Suisekis. I=B4m a teacher (but not in English - you see). I=B4m going to create my own Internet Site. When I have finished my work,= you can gather more Informations about my family, my Suisekis my Bonsais and me. On Garry Garcia=B4s Site you find one of my Suiseki (thanks to Garry Garc= ia). If the presentation of my "owl" is really a "knockout" (Chris Cochrans words) please subscribe m= e to your mailing list. Thanks in advance Franz ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 07:26:58 PST Sender: owner-viewing_stones@triumf.ca Message-ID: <199804161426.JAA24471@mailroom.iamerica.net> Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 09:27:27 -0500 To: viewing_stones@triumf.ca From: Glen Miller Reply-To: Glen Miller Subject: Welcome Franz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
at 09:46 PM 4/15/98 +0200, you wrote:
>Dear Susiseki Fans!
>
>My name is Franz Hinterreiter and I live in Austria. When I  read the book
>Suiseki by Willi Benz in 1996
>I started to collect Suisekis. I=B4m a teacher (but not in English - you
>see).
>
>I=B4m going to create my own Internet Site. When I have finished my work, you
>can gather more Informations
>about my family, my Suisekis my Bonsais and me.
>
>On Garry Garcia=B4s Site you find one of my Suiseki (thanks to Garry Garcia).
>If the presentation of
>my "owl" is really a "knockout" (Chris Cochrans words) please subscribe me
>to your mailing list.
>
>Thanks in advance
>Franz
>

Hello Franz,
    Welcome to the group. It was a pleasure to view your suiseki. It is interesting on how you carved the diaza to emphasize the "owl" I am sure you will find the groug entertaining at times, as well as educational.
Glen Miller  Tulsa, Oklahoma USA
Want to see Suiseki? Click here: http://cust2.iAmerica.net/di= amonds/ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 14:44:44 PST Sender: owner-viewing_stones@triumf.ca Message-ID: <199804162143.XAA13623@inrete-relay.inrete.it> Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 23:41:03 +0200 To: "Hinterreiter Franz" From: marco favero Reply-To: marco favero Subject: Wilkommen Franz CC: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Franz, Welcome to viewing-stones-aesthetics-crazy-wonderful list,we are a bit qu= iet now,but warning the volcan can burst from time to time;once we collected some nice stone,then you can see the creative mind of this people,nothing to compare with some bonsai people who thinks we search the moon and on the contrary we search the earth and all its marvelous teachings. i for one am very happy to hear from you and your story,i seen your wonde= rful Owl owing to Garry Garcia and his great web page,i'm waiting to know more from you and your Austrian sites,thanks for to share with us your experience. my best regards and greetings from Italy, marco favero@inrete.it *************************************************************************= *** ******************** =20 >Dear Susiseki Fans! > >My name is Franz Hinterreiter and I live in Austria. When I=A0 read the = book >Suiseki by Willi Benz in 1996=20 >I started to collect Suisekis. I=B4m a teacher (but not in English - you >see). > >I=B4m going to create my own Internet Site. When I have finished my work= , you >can gather more Informations >about my family, my Suisekis my Bonsais and me. > >On Garry Garcia=B4s Site you find one of my Suiseki (thanks to Garry Gar= cia). >If the presentation of >my "owl" is really a "knockout" (Chris Cochrans words) please subscribe = me >to your mailing list. > >Thanks in advance >Franz > =20 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 18:34:20 PST Sender: owner-viewing_stones@triumf.ca Message-ID: <199804170133.JAA16094@mailhub.omen.com.au> From: "John Oldland" Reply-To: "John Oldland" To: "Hinterreiter Franz" CC: Subject: Re: Owl Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 09:23:26 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Franz, Welcome to viewing stones Just a comment/question about "owl" The stand/dai apears to surround the stone and is not what I would call a traditional dai, the bottom of the stone is not flat and this would have made it more difficult to mount in a dai. Did you concider a more traditional approch, does this stand and display fit what would be known as Susiseki ? I am not trying to be picky, but am trying to develop a better understanding of this art, and this is an unusual way of presenting a stone. Experenced members feel free to contribute your comments on this. Regards JohnO John Oldland Perth Western Australia jold@omen.com.au http://www.omen.com.au/~jold/ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 20:50:28 PST Sender: owner-viewing_stones@triumf.ca Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 20:50:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynn boyd Reply-To: Lynn boyd To: viewing_stones@triumf.ca Subject: THE REAL TRIALS OF ROCK HUNTING Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Members: Re: My previous Vancouver Rock Hunt My gracious thankyou for the e-mail privately, and on the list, in regard to my post recently about my Vancouver Island rock hunting trip. I am happy to think my recording of it had any useful information in view of my short experience, but I suspect kindness in your messages and not ability in my note-taking and hunting. Embarrassed as I am I must relate some of the REAL truth and let it be a lesson to others newly attracted to the art. My rock hunting trips are variously checkered with numbers beyond record of foolish chances, reckless abandon on cliff edges and deep water holes, and into grass where I am sure lurk snakes that not only bite but chew. This is not to mention the bacteria-laden sandwiches I carry in my coat pockets that gather sand, soil and the siftings from small rocks and whatever creatures that inhabit the holes in the rocks. It doesn't include falling into rivers, out of safe reach of companions, nor of serious consideration of bear and couger populations. Ad infinitum. That said, I am prepared to further inform you of the Realities of the Vancouver Hunt. First, the area of Campbell River is bounded by rain forests. Beauty to make the soul sing, but there is also the always present slippery wet clays, green slime or moss covered rocks that challenge the soles of one's boots and balance. Second, the discomfort of wet shoes and sox in a thermal area of such cold can be miserable and numbing. Third, layered clothing is the only possible solution to the changing temperatures during a hunt of any length. I was barely prepared in all three of these physical comforts in spite of my attempts to be. My first incident found me gazing into the water at a rock that was so intriguing that I stepped into the water, boot confident, to reach for it. Aha, the water was deeper than it looked. My boot that was calf-high filled in an instant to the top. The cold shock didn't register until I had the rock safely in my grasp. The thrill of a find! Here begins the events that I failed to foresee. Wavering dangerously I managed to get the rock into my backpack. My backpack now must have weighed 50 or more pounds and that can unbalance a person of 130, or less, pounds enough to make movement awkward, in fact downright dangerous. I took a careful survey and stepped toward the rocky edge of the river. All okay so far. I made it onto the dry rock bed shore with shaking knees and pure misery from one ice-cold boot full of water - further unbalancing me. Oh, where were my companions?!! Anton's black lab, Cindy, ran from one of us to the other during the hunt but I had not seen her for some time. They must be far ahead of me by now. I stepped up the rocks gingerly but - suddenly my backpack shifted sideways on my shoulder and without warning I was hearing the crack of my head on a big rock or was it a tree limb. Getting up was not easy, and I was suddenly ill from the wallop and quite confused. I denied it stoically. But, all right, I very shortly got over that one and laughed at myself. A few more steps and determined confidence returned, but so did the utter cold of my bootful of water. The thick wool sock I wore had swollen and I could not remove the boot. Ah, just lie on your back I told myself and drain that boot so you can at least begin to dry out and walk more easily. Off with the backpack, down on my back on the warm rocks. Hm-m, felt good. Up in the air with the boot. Second shock! The cold water did empty from my boot, BUT, poured down my leg. So! Now I had more wet areas and colder misery. How stupid can one get, I wondered. By now I was conscious of my loss of direction toward the truck way up a hill somewhere, and my distance from companions. But, never mind - I began to look again and found the ONE rock that I choose as the one best from the whole trip! It wasn't easy to dig out, but suddenly Anton had returned and took it from its solid em- beddment for me. Cindy licked my now gloveless (they got cold and wet, too) hands and all was well. Sigh. Hey, I would have managed without them. I think. I did go on enjoying the day; it is something when the joy of treasure hunting can overcome the obstacles in its way. But that is the nature of the rock hunt. Still, that night and for nights a week long my head woke me in the night with worrisome neck and arm pains to the necessity of ibuprofen in large doses. So I consider this worthy of the hazard category number one - Don't fall. And now Most of the truth is out in the open. My companions, Anton and Chris, can stop snickering at my first report while they picture in their minds the truth of my awkwardness, stupidity and thoroughly amateurish rock hunting behavior. I am absolved of misrepresenting my abilities herewith. :) Lynn boyd@peak.org Corvallis, OR U.S. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 21:32:28 PST Sender: owner-viewing_stones@triumf.ca Message-ID: <199804170432.AAA07542@cliff.concentric.net> From: pmconway@concentric.net To: viewing_stones@triumf.ca Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 21:24:39 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Reply-To: pmconway@concentric.net unsubscribe ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 23:05:35 PST Sender: owner-viewing_stones@triumf.ca From: "Craig Coussins" Reply-To: "Craig Coussins" To: "Lynn boyd" , Subject: Re: THE REAL TRIALS OF ROCK HUNTING Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 07:03:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: As John Naka said, Even Monkeys fall out of trees. Yours sincerely, Craig Coussins. Site is at: http://www.btinternet.com/~craig.coussins/ Come visit any time. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 02:39:31 PST Sender: owner-viewing_stones@triumf.ca From: "hyf" Reply-To: "hyf" To: Subject: unsubscribe Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 20:31:25 +0800 Message-ID: <01bd6933$926ce2e0$LocalHost@hyf> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 02:46:08 PST Sender: owner-viewing_stones@triumf.ca Reply-To: From: "Joe Davies" To: "Lynn boyd" , Subject: Re: THE REAL TRIALS OF ROCK HUNTING Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 10:20:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Regarding Lynn's post.... It is well know that when taking ladies rock hunting one needs to:- - Keep them on a leash else they'll wander off and get lost - Carry extra clothing, make-up, food, drink, napkins, a rug to sit upon etc to service their needs and comfort - Never, ever let them pick anything up else you'll end up carrying it on their behalf - Ensure the entire collect time is less than one hour else they get bored I am surprised that Chris and Anton werent aware of these rules. BTW - The same rules hold true for any exterior endeavour, such as golf. he he he :-) Joe ---------- > From: Lynn boyd > To: viewing_stones@triumf.ca > Subject: THE REAL TRIALS OF ROCK HUNTING > Date: 17 April 1998 04:50 > > > > Members: Re: My previous Vancouver Rock Hunt > > My gracious thankyou for the e-mail privately, and on > the list, in regard to my post recently about my Vancouver > Island rock hunting trip. I am happy to think my > recording of it had any useful information in view of my > short experience, but I suspect kindness in your messages > and not ability in my note-taking and hunting. > > Embarrassed as I am I must relate some of the REAL truth > and let it be a lesson to others newly attracted to the art. > > My rock hunting trips are variously checkered with numbers > beyond record of foolish chances, reckless abandon on > cliff edges and deep water holes, and into grass where > I am sure lurk snakes that not only bite but chew. > This is not to mention the bacteria-laden sandwiches I carry > in my coat pockets that gather sand, soil and the siftings > from small rocks and whatever creatures that inhabit the > holes in the rocks. It doesn't include falling into rivers, > out of safe reach of companions, nor of serious consideration > of bear and couger populations. Ad infinitum. > > That said, I am prepared to further inform you of the > Realities of the Vancouver Hunt. > > First, the area of Campbell River is bounded by rain forests. > Beauty to make the soul sing, but there is also the always > present slippery wet clays, green slime or moss covered > rocks that challenge the soles of one's boots and balance. > Second, the discomfort of wet shoes and sox in a thermal > area of such cold can be miserable and numbing. Third, > layered clothing is the only possible solution to the > changing temperatures during a hunt of any length. > I was barely prepared in all three of these physical > comforts in spite of my attempts to be. > > My first incident found me gazing into the water at a rock > that was so intriguing that I stepped into the water, boot > confident, to reach for it. Aha, the water was deeper > than it looked. My boot that was calf-high filled in an > instant to the top. The cold shock didn't register until I had > the rock safely in my grasp. The thrill of a find! > > Here begins the events that I failed to foresee. > Wavering dangerously I managed to get the rock into my backpack. > My backpack now must have weighed 50 or more pounds and that > can unbalance a person of 130, or less, pounds enough to > make movement awkward, in fact downright dangerous. I took a > careful survey and stepped toward the rocky edge of the > river. All okay so far. I made it onto the dry rock bed shore > with shaking knees and pure misery from one ice-cold boot > full of water - further unbalancing me. > > Oh, where were my companions?!! Anton's black lab, Cindy, ran > from one of us to the other during the hunt but I had not seen > her for some time. They must be far ahead of me by now. > I stepped up the rocks gingerly but - suddenly my backpack > shifted sideways on my shoulder and without warning I was > hearing the crack of my head on a big rock or was it a > tree limb. Getting up was not easy, and I was suddenly ill > from the wallop and quite confused. I denied it stoically. > > But, all right, I very shortly got over that one and laughed > at myself. A few more steps and determined confidence returned, > but so did the utter cold of my bootful of water. The thick > wool sock I wore had swollen and I could not remove the boot. > > Ah, just lie on your back I told myself and drain that boot > so you can at least begin to dry out and walk more easily. > > Off with the backpack, down on my back on the warm rocks. > Hm-m, felt good. Up in the air with the boot. Second shock! > The cold water did empty from my boot, BUT, poured down my > leg. So! Now I had more wet areas and colder misery. How > stupid can one get, I wondered. By now I was conscious of > my loss of direction toward the truck way up a hill somewhere, > and my distance from companions. But, never mind - I began > to look again and found the ONE rock that I choose as the one > best from the whole trip! It wasn't easy to dig out, but > suddenly Anton had returned and took it from its solid em- > beddment for me. Cindy licked my now gloveless (they got > cold and wet, too) hands and all was well. Sigh. Hey, I would > have managed without them. I think. > > I did go on enjoying the day; it is something when the joy > of treasure hunting can overcome the obstacles in its way. > But that is the nature of the rock hunt. > Still, that night and for nights a week long my head woke > me in the night with worrisome neck and arm pains to the > necessity of ibuprofen in large doses. So I consider this > worthy of the hazard category number one - Don't fall. > > And now Most of the truth is out in the open. My companions, > Anton and Chris, can stop snickering at my first report while > they picture in their minds the truth of my awkwardness, > stupidity and thoroughly amateurish rock hunting behavior. > I am absolved of misrepresenting my abilities herewith. :) > > Lynn > boyd@peak.org Corvallis, OR U.S. > > > > ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 08:30:53 PST Sender: owner-viewing_stones@triumf.ca To: Joe.Davies@btinternet.com CC: boyd@peak.org, viewing_stones@triumf.ca Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 09:49:16 +0000 Subject: Re: THE REAL TRIALS OF ROCK HUNTING Message-ID: <19980417.102008.8486.8.norbalt@juno.com> References: From: norbalt@juno.com Reply-To: norbalt@juno.com Joe, Some times I feel that should not be necessary, but I have to do all sorts of comfort amenities just to get my wife in the yard, let alone going on a hunt. She is kind of an indoor person. I am waiting patiently for Hunter or another company to produce an outdoor ceiling fan, but haven't seen one yet, but this still will not help me on any kind of hunt. God Bless and Keep You and Yours, Regards from Pawnee America Tom La Bron Home E-Mail: norbalt@juno.com Office E-Mail: norbal@okway.okstate.edu Good manners have much to do with the emotions. To make them ring true, one must feel them, not merely exhibit them. Amy Vanderbilt (1908-74), ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Fri, 17 Apr 1998 10:20:17 +0100 "Joe Davies" writes: >Regarding Lynn's post.... > >It is well know that when taking ladies rock hunting one needs to:- > >- Keep them on a leash else they'll wander off and get lost >- Carry extra clothing, make-up, food, drink, napkins, a rug to sit >upon >etc to service their needs and comfort >- Never, ever let them pick anything up else you'll end up carrying it >on >their behalf >- Ensure the entire collect time is less than one hour else they get >bored > >I am surprised that Chris and Anton werent aware of these rules. BTW - >The >same rules hold true for any exterior endeavour, such as golf. > >he he he :-) > >Joe > > > >---------- >> From: Lynn boyd >> To: viewing_stones@triumf.ca >> Subject: THE REAL TRIALS OF ROCK HUNTING >> Date: 17 April 1998 04:50 >> >> >> >> Members: Re: My previous Vancouver Rock Hunt >> >> My gracious thankyou for the e-mail privately, and on >> the list, in regard to my post recently about my Vancouver >> Island rock hunting trip. I am happy to think my >> recording of it had any useful information in view of my >> short experience, but I suspect kindness in your messages >> and not ability in my note-taking and hunting. >> >> Embarrassed as I am I must relate some of the REAL truth >> and let it be a lesson to others newly attracted to the art. >> >> My rock hunting trips are variously checkered with numbers >> beyond record of foolish chances, reckless abandon on >> cliff edges and deep water holes, and into grass where >> I am sure lurk snakes that not only bite but chew. >> This is not to mention the bacteria-laden sandwiches I carry >> in my coat pockets that gather sand, soil and the siftings >> from small rocks and whatever creatures that inhabit the >> holes in the rocks. It doesn't include falling into rivers, >> out of safe reach of companions, nor of serious consideration >> of bear and couger populations. Ad infinitum. >> >> That said, I am prepared to further inform you of the >> Realities of the Vancouver Hunt. >> >> First, the area of Campbell River is bounded by rain forests. >> Beauty to make the soul sing, but there is also the always >> present slippery wet clays, green slime or moss covered >> rocks that challenge the soles of one's boots and balance. >> Second, the discomfort of wet shoes and sox in a thermal >> area of such cold can be miserable and numbing. Third, >> layered clothing is the only possible solution to the >> changing temperatures during a hunt of any length. >> I was barely prepared in all three of these physical >> comforts in spite of my attempts to be. >> >> My first incident found me gazing into the water at a rock >> that was so intriguing that I stepped into the water, boot >> confident, to reach for it. Aha, the water was deeper >> than it looked. My boot that was calf-high filled in an >> instant to the top. The cold shock didn't register until I >had >> the rock safely in my grasp. The thrill of a find! >> >> Here begins the events that I failed to foresee. >> Wavering dangerously I managed to get the rock into my >backpack. >> My backpack now must have weighed 50 or more pounds and that >> can unbalance a person of 130, or less, pounds enough to >> make movement awkward, in fact downright dangerous. I took a >> careful survey and stepped toward the rocky edge of the >> river. All okay so far. I made it onto the dry rock bed shore >> with shaking knees and pure misery from one ice-cold boot >> full of water - further unbalancing me. >> >> Oh, where were my companions?!! Anton's black lab, Cindy, ran >> from one of us to the other during the hunt but I had not seen >> her for some time. They must be far ahead of me by now. >> I stepped up the rocks gingerly but - suddenly my backpack >> shifted sideways on my shoulder and without warning I was >> hearing the crack of my head on a big rock or was it a >> tree limb. Getting up was not easy, and I was suddenly ill >> from the wallop and quite confused. I denied it stoically. >> >> But, all right, I very shortly got over that one and laughed >> at myself. A few more steps and determined confidence >returned, >> but so did the utter cold of my bootful of water. The thick >> wool sock I wore had swollen and I could not remove the boot. >> >> Ah, just lie on your back I told myself and drain that boot >> so you can at least begin to dry out and walk more easily. >> >> Off with the backpack, down on my back on the warm rocks. >> Hm-m, felt good. Up in the air with the boot. Second shock! >> The cold water did empty from my boot, BUT, poured down my >> leg. So! Now I had more wet areas and colder misery. How >> stupid can one get, I wondered. By now I was conscious of >> my loss of direction toward the truck way up a hill somewhere, >> and my distance from companions. But, never mind - I began >> to look again and found the ONE rock that I choose as the one >> best from the whole trip! It wasn't easy to dig out, but >> suddenly Anton had returned and took it from its solid em- >> beddment for me. Cindy licked my now gloveless (they got >> cold and wet, too) hands and all was well. Sigh. Hey, I would >> have managed without them. I think. >> >> I did go on enjoying the day; it is something when the joy >> of treasure hunting can overcome the obstacles in its way. >> But that is the nature of the rock hunt. >> Still, that night and for nights a week long my head woke >> me in the night with worrisome neck and arm pains to the >> necessity of ibuprofen in large doses. So I consider this >> worthy of the hazard category number one - Don't fall. >> >> And now Most of the truth is out in the open. My >companions, >> Anton and Chris, can stop snickering at my first report while >> they picture in their minds the truth of my awkwardness, >> stupidity and thoroughly amateurish rock hunting behavior. >> I am absolved of misrepresenting my abilities herewith. :) >> >> Lynn >> boyd@peak.org Corvallis, OR U.S. >> >> >> >> > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 11:57:53 PST Sender: owner-viewing_stones@triumf.ca Message-ID: <011301bd6a32$f827aa20$25645a8e@ipg06.triumf.ca> From: "Craig J. Hunt" Reply-To: "Craig J. Hunt" To: , , Subject: Re: How to signoff the Viewing Stone List Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 11:59:30 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi; You need to send your request to; viewing_stones-request@triumf.ca With the text; signoff Craig J. Hunt in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada home; craig_hunt@geocities.com work; craig@triumf.ca http://www.triumf.ca/people/craig/craig.htm -----Original Message----- From: pmconway@concentric.net To: viewing_stones@triumf.ca Date: Thursday, April 16, 1998 10:32 PM unsubscribe -----Original Message----- From: hyf To: Viewing_stones@triumf.ca Date: Friday, April 17, 1998 3:39 AM Subject: unsubscribe ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 12:07:29 PST Sender: owner-viewing_stones@triumf.ca Reply-To: From: "Joe Davies" To: CC: , Subject: Re: THE REAL TRIALS OF ROCK HUNTING Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 19:47:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: BTW - I think it only fair that I state that is my dear wife who ends up carrying my finds, carrying the flask of coffee, picking up all the bits and pieces I tend to drop/lose (car keys, hat, gloves etc), reminding me the tide is fast approaching, navigating the car to and from desired collecting site, washing my dirt covered clothes upon return and issuing regular supportive noises over my pathetic attempts to make Bonsai/Suiseki/Ceramics. (Lynn - please take note of your role should we ever go collecting together) :-)))) < lots of smileys and general ducking as the missiles are thrown this way > Joe ---------- > From: norbalt@juno.com > To: Joe.Davies@btinternet.com > Cc: boyd@peak.org; viewing_stones@triumf.ca > Subject: Re: THE REAL TRIALS OF ROCK HUNTING > Date: 17 April 1998 10:49 > > Joe, > > Some times I feel that should not be necessary, but I have to do > all sorts of comfort amenities just to get my wife in the yard, let alone > going on a hunt. She is kind of an indoor person. I am waiting > patiently for Hunter or another company to produce an outdoor ceiling > fan, but haven't seen one yet, but this still will not help me on any > kind of hunt. > > God Bless and Keep You and Yours, > > Regards from Pawnee America > Tom La Bron > Home E-Mail: norbalt@juno.com > Office E-Mail: norbal@okway.okstate.edu > > Good manners have much to do with the emotions. To make them ring true, > one must feel them, not merely exhibit them. Amy Vanderbilt (1908-74), > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------- > On Fri, 17 Apr 1998 10:20:17 +0100 "Joe Davies" > writes: > >Regarding Lynn's post.... > > > >It is well know that when taking ladies rock hunting one needs to:- > > > >- Keep them on a leash else they'll wander off and get lost > >- Carry extra clothing, make-up, food, drink, napkins, a rug to sit > >upon > >etc to service their needs and comfort > >- Never, ever let them pick anything up else you'll end up carrying it > >on > >their behalf > >- Ensure the entire collect time is less than one hour else they get > >bored > > > >I am surprised that Chris and Anton werent aware of these rules. BTW - > >The > >same rules hold true for any exterior endeavour, such as golf. > > > >he he he :-) > > > >Joe > > > > > > > >---------- > >> From: Lynn boyd > >> To: viewing_stones@triumf.ca > >> Subject: THE REAL TRIALS OF ROCK HUNTING > >> Date: 17 April 1998 04:50 > >> > >> > >> > >> Members: Re: My previous Vancouver Rock Hunt > >> > >> My gracious thankyou for the e-mail privately, and on > >> the list, in regard to my post recently about my Vancouver > >> Island rock hunting trip. I am happy to think my > >> recording of it had any useful information in view of my > >> short experience, but I suspect kindness in your messages > >> and not ability in my note-taking and hunting. > >> > >> Embarrassed as I am I must relate some of the REAL truth > >> and let it be a lesson to others newly attracted to the art. > >> > >> My rock hunting trips are variously checkered with numbers > >> beyond record of foolish chances, reckless abandon on > >> cliff edges and deep water holes, and into grass where > >> I am sure lurk snakes that not only bite but chew. > >> This is not to mention the bacteria-laden sandwiches I carry > >> in my coat pockets that gather sand, soil and the siftings > >> from small rocks and whatever creatures that inhabit the > >> holes in the rocks. It doesn't include falling into rivers, > >> out of safe reach of companions, nor of serious consideration > >> of bear and couger populations. Ad infinitum. > >> > >> That said, I am prepared to further inform you of the > >> Realities of the Vancouver Hunt. > >> > >> First, the area of Campbell River is bounded by rain forests. > >> Beauty to make the soul sing, but there is also the always > >> present slippery wet clays, green slime or moss covered > >> rocks that challenge the soles of one's boots and balance. > >> Second, the discomfort of wet shoes and sox in a thermal > >> area of such cold can be miserable and numbing. Third, > >> layered clothing is the only possible solution to the > >> changing temperatures during a hunt of any length. > >> I was barely prepared in all three of these physical > >> comforts in spite of my attempts to be. > >> > >> My first incident found me gazing into the water at a rock > >> that was so intriguing that I stepped into the water, boot > >> confident, to reach for it. Aha, the water was deeper > >> than it looked. My boot that was calf-high filled in an > >> instant to the top. The cold shock didn't register until I > >had > >> the rock safely in my grasp. The thrill of a find! > >> > >> Here begins the events that I failed to foresee. > >> Wavering dangerously I managed to get the rock into my > >backpack. > >> My backpack now must have weighed 50 or more pounds and that > >> can unbalance a person of 130, or less, pounds enough to > >> make movement awkward, in fact downright dangerous. I took a > >> careful survey and stepped toward the rocky edge of the > >> river. All okay so far. I made it onto the dry rock bed shore > >> with shaking knees and pure misery from one ice-cold boot > >> full of water - further unbalancing me. > >> > >> Oh, where were my companions?!! Anton's black lab, Cindy, ran > >> from one of us to the other during the hunt but I had not seen > >> her for some time. They must be far ahead of me by now. > >> I stepped up the rocks gingerly but - suddenly my backpack > >> shifted sideways on my shoulder and without warning I was > >> hearing the crack of my head on a big rock or was it a > >> tree limb. Getting up was not easy, and I was suddenly ill > >> from the wallop and quite confused. I denied it stoically. > >> > >> But, all right, I very shortly got over that one and laughed > >> at myself. A few more steps and determined confidence > >returned, > >> but so did the utter cold of my bootful of water. The thick > >> wool sock I wore had swollen and I could not remove the boot. > >> > >> Ah, just lie on your back I told myself and drain that boot > >> so you can at least begin to dry out and walk more easily. > >> > >> Off with the backpack, down on my back on the warm rocks. > >> Hm-m, felt good. Up in the air with the boot. Second shock! > >> The cold water did empty from my boot, BUT, poured down my > >> leg. So! Now I had more wet areas and colder misery. How > >> stupid can one get, I wondered. By now I was conscious of > >> my loss of direction toward the truck way up a hill somewhere, > >> and my distance from companions. But, never mind - I began > >> to look again and found the ONE rock that I choose as the one > >> best from the whole trip! It wasn't easy to dig out, but > >> suddenly Anton had returned and took it from its solid em- > >> beddment for me. Cindy licked my now gloveless (they got > >> cold and wet, too) hands and all was well. Sigh. Hey, I would > >> have managed without them. I think. > >> > >> I did go on enjoying the day; it is something when the joy > >> of treasure hunting can overcome the obstacles in its way. > >> But that is the nature of the rock hunt. > >> Still, that night and for nights a week long my head woke > >> me in the night with worrisome neck and arm pains to the > >> necessity of ibuprofen in large doses. So I consider this > >> worthy of the hazard category number one - Don't fall. > >> > >> And now Most of the truth is out in the open. My > >companions, > >> Anton and Chris, can stop snickering at my first report while > >> they picture in their minds the truth of my awkwardness, > >> stupidity and thoroughly amateurish rock hunting behavior. > >> I am absolved of misrepresenting my abilities herewith. :) > >> > >> Lynn > >> boyd@peak.org Corvallis, OR U.S. > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > _____________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com > Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 13:10:40 PST Sender: owner-viewing_stones@triumf.ca Message-ID: <199804172009.WAA08226@inrete-relay.inrete.it> Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 22:06:29 +0200 To: From: marco favero Reply-To: marco favero Subject: Re: THE "ROYAL" TRIALS OF ROCK HUNTING CC: , , MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 19.47 17/04/98 +0100, Joe Davies wrote: >BTW - I think it only fair that I state that is my dear wife who ends up >carrying my finds, carrying the flask of coffee, picking up all the bits >and pieces I tend to drop/lose (car keys, hat, gloves etc), reminding me >the tide is fast approaching, navigating the car to and from desired >collecting site, washing my dirt covered clothes upon return and issuing >regular supportive noises over my pathetic attempts to make >Bonsai/Suiseki/Ceramics. Hey Joe, now i understand why in England there is still the Monarchy, "God saves the King Joe" :-). I'm very curious to know what you can give in exchange to your wife for all those ROYAL Services,ah sorry there are too many modest ears here for to know all... Glad to hear from you ,Joe :-). BTW can you tell me with what i can take away your Arbrex from my trunk? it is almost all black;-).thanks for your kind input in advance,maybe i can ask to your wife,she must know all secrets if i believe to your statements:-). my best wishes, marco favero@inrete.it ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 13:28:37 PST Sender: owner-viewing_stones@triumf.ca Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 13:28:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynn boyd Reply-To: Lynn boyd To: viewing_stones@triumf.ca CC: Joe Davies Subject: Re: THE REAL TRIALS OF ROCK HUNTING Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII AND RE: QUESTION FROM JOHN OLDLAND On Fri, 17 Apr 1998, Joe Davies wrote: . . .SNIP OF PUNISHING CHORES assignment . . . > (Lynn - please take note of your role should we ever go collecting > together) :-)))) < lots of smileys and general ducking as the missiles are thrown this way > ------------ Mr. Joe, Sir: It has been all too long since we in the colonies have pelted your royal retreating selves with missiles and I fairly warn you . . . do not turn your back on me. (Smile,grimace) Lynn FURTHER: RE; JOHN OLDLAND'S MSG You are exactly the one, Joe, to help on John Oldland's question re the dai on Franz Hinterreiter's remarkable owl stone. He asks if the dai which Franz uses is conventional, as it surrounds the stone fully in a manner he is not familiar with. I think his question is a good entry to a discussion about what is a traditional or conventional dai, and what is the suiseki society in its broad scope saying about innovation in the design of dai. I would like to hear what your experienced knowledge has brought your artistic thoughts to conclude on this issue. Please. :) Lynn ** And, I take this opportunity to say WELCOME TO FRANZ. Your stones on Garry Garcia's webpage are delightful to see Share your experiences with us. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 07:50:55 PST Sender: owner-viewing_stones@triumf.ca Message-ID: <3538D9E0.4159@sheltonbbs.com> Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 09:50:40 -0700 From: Denny Nolan Reply-To: Denny Nolan MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Viewing_stones@triumf.ca Subject: unsubscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit unsubscribe -- May all your trees be priceless... Mr Denny Visit Mr Denny's Bonsai Page at: http://www.sheltonbbs.com/~dnolan ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 12:52:12 PST Sender: owner-viewing_stones@triumf.ca Reply-To: From: "Joe Davies" To: "Lynn boyd" , Subject: Re: THE REAL TRIALS OF ROCK HUNTING Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 20:32:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: As Lynn gas asked me for my input here goes..... Unusual or 'un-traditional' stands are used in many countries. I have seen pics from Asia of carved stands that completely surround the stone (as per Owl), and there is also a natural phenomenom of tree roots growing round stones, which are then harvested and used as suiseki - these are very desirable and exclusive, and which give a similar resultant appearance to the Owl stand. The Japanese style of stand tends to be very traditional - under-stated and 'minimalistic' though I have seen pictures of more grandiose Japanese stands but these are the exception to the norm. Luciana Garbini in Italy has used modern materials (plexiglass, resins etc) to form stands for unusually difficult to carve stands e.g. a bird in flight. I have used Epoxy putty for a stand that I was unable to carve from wood so moulded and carved the Epoxy putty, I have used tree roots (the Chinese often use roots) to display a stone upon. Certainly is one has access to various International stone albums one sees a whole variety of approached to creating stands for stones, and I have mentioned just a few of those I have seen, others include cushions, driftwood, metallic lacquered wood, . I feel the key element that underlies them all is that they were created with the goal of displaying the stone well, tastefully (for the individually concerned culture which isnt always cross-cultural), and with skill and craftsmanship. So my personal opinion is that almost anything goes as long as it is tasteful, artistic and done with feeling. Joe ---------- > From: Lynn boyd > To: viewing_stones@triumf.ca > Cc: Joe Davies > Subject: Re: THE REAL TRIALS OF ROCK HUNTING > Date: 17 April 1998 21:28 > > AND RE: QUESTION FROM JOHN OLDLAND > > On Fri, 17 Apr 1998, Joe Davies wrote: > > . . .SNIP OF PUNISHING CHORES assignment . . . > > > (Lynn - please take note of your role should we ever go collecting > > together) :-)))) < lots of smileys and general ducking as the missiles are > thrown this way > > ------------ > Mr. Joe, Sir: > It has been all too long since we in the colonies have > pelted your royal retreating selves with missiles and I fairly > warn you . . . do not turn your back on me. (Smile,grimace) > Lynn > > FURTHER: RE; JOHN OLDLAND'S MSG > > You are exactly the one, Joe, to help on John Oldland's question > re the dai on Franz Hinterreiter's remarkable owl stone. > He asks if the dai which Franz uses is conventional, as it surrounds > the stone fully in a manner he is not familiar with. I think his > question is a good entry to a discussion about what is a traditional > or conventional dai, and what is the suiseki society in its broad > scope saying about innovation in the design of dai. > I would like to hear what your experienced knowledge has brought > your artistic thoughts to conclude on this issue. > > Please. :) > Lynn > > ** And, I take this opportunity to say WELCOME TO FRANZ. > Your stones on Garry Garcia's webpage are delightful to see > Share your experiences with us. > > > > > > ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 12:53:18 PST Sender: owner-viewing_stones@triumf.ca Reply-To: From: "Joe Davies" To: "marco favero" CC: , , Subject: Re: THE "ROYAL" TRIALS OF ROCK HUNTING Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 20:46:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Marco My wife advises ....... "We warned you not to paint it on undiluted! For Bonsai carved wood 'ageing' it needs to be mixed with a lot of water until it is like brown water, then paint on. If it is already on your tree and very thick and black then all is not lost, simply wipe it away with a damp/wet rag. Experiment using it so that you find the right dilution for your tree wood. (This is why I only sent you a small bottle, as it goes a long way)." Joe's wife > BTW can you tell me with what i can take away your Arbrex from my trunk? > it is almost all black;-).thanks for your kind input in advance,maybe i can > ask > to your wife,she must know all secrets if i believe to your statements:-). > > my best wishes, > > marco > > favero@inrete.it ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 14:09:16 PST Sender: owner-viewing_stones@triumf.ca Message-ID: <199804182108.XAA13531@inrete-relay.inrete.it> Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 23:06:02 +0200 To: From: marco favero Reply-To: marco favero Subject: Re: THE "ROYAL" TRIALS OF ROCK HUNTING CC: viewing_stones@triumf.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 20.46 18/04/98 +0100, you wrote: >Marco > >My wife advises ....... >"We warned you not to paint it on undiluted! For Bonsai carved wood >'ageing' it needs to be mixed with a lot of water until it is like brown >water, then paint on. If it is already on your tree and very thick and >black then all is not lost, simply wipe it away with a damp/wet rag. >Experiment using it so that you find the right dilution for your tree wood. >(This is why I only sent you a small bottle, as it goes a long way)." > >Joe's wife many thanks for your kind input,Lady:-), i will search to follow your instructions literally, i knew that i pushed the right wet buttons. my best greetings with a respectful hand-kissing. marco