The Race Debate (continued)

Dan
Again, until your stupid ass gets it: Do you not fuckin' realize that you're holding yourself down by saying this? And oppression is not a dirty word as long as you're able to use it to your advantage.

STUPOR
As we are speaking, oppression already exists. I'm not creating it, I'm talking about it. Get this: Oppression holds me down. I don't reap off benefits from it. That is the lamest trick anyone has tried to pull on me. If I could do without it, I would. That's why I am saying all this..for you to come to a certain realization, but I'm afraid we're far from reaching it. And no one uses oppression to their advantage. There is no such thing.

Sam
Did you know that if you have 1/8 Navajo in you in Arizona, you can get a scholarship? No bullshit. I know a girl who is the whitest person you've ever seen, blond hair, blue eyes, the works. But someone in her family happened to be a Native American, so she could go to college for free. You know, I'm sure all that racism is really dragging her down. Minorities need that push? Fucking Christ!!!!!!! Tell me, in the future, how will white kids feel about black kids if they don't know anything other than black kids get to go to school for free while white kids have to pay? I have to say is again, if we emphasize differences based on race, whether for good or bad, it will only perpetuate racism. For fuck's sake.

John
Where are all the white women at? Is this a racist statement, STUPORfuckwad?

STUPOR
I'm not promoting differences. It's just around us. If you ignore it, that itself is a sin. And quit giving examples of exceptions. They are exceptions.

Shane
It's cool to hate white men. Can I ask you why black people just don't vote for other black people in elections? Colin Powell was not even considered because the NAACP said they were not going to support him. He's not black enough for you? Elizabeth Dole was going to run for the Republicans but the feminist groups said they didn't want here, is she not a woman?

Dan
You know why? Because those individuals aren't extreme enough for them.

STUPOR
Exactly. It's not just a matter of being a woman or being black. As mentioned before, these are token candidates used by the public to display how far these people can get, although in actuality, it oppresses women and minorities more to have people like them.

Dan
They want someone who is not going to "oppress" them. In other words, it is they who are going to do the oppressing.

STUPOR
Trust me, no one does it to themselves. However these token candidates are used by the media to ward off 'suspicions' or so to speak. It's a silencer for the folks who buy it.

Sam
Did you know that the demographic with the least benefits in the USA right now is the white male?

STUPOR
Why would they need it?

John
Well, I suppose you're right. White men don't need food or a house to live in.

STUPOR
No, that's something everyone should be entitled to. You're out of context.

Shane
Are all black people African American. We have the biggest Haitian mass in my city at my church on Sunday afternoon. There a lot of black people there, if I called any of them African American they would get pissed off. Say black its easier. All white people are not European either.

STUPOR
Once again, I never said anything about being PC. You're all mistaken.

Sam
This was just on the Simpsons a couple minutes ago: "You're in more hot water than... uh..." "A Japanese tea bag, chief?" "Why don't you lay off the Asians, Lou?" I thought that fit.

Shane
If you are white you have been called a racist at least once in your life. Who do black people want to be president? Someone like Jesse Jackson, and the woman want Hill Clinton in there, oh my how! Give me a black person who is not a whinebag and I may vote for him. Powell or someone else who is not Jackson please. Black people and females help oppress themselves. It is proven that females don't like having a female boss, and females are vicious towards female politicians. There's a woman buy the name of Jane Swift. She's the MA Lieutenant governor and she is not popular at all. If she ran for governor she would lose by an 80 percent margin, and guess what? The females communist insult her as a person and then insult the dress she wore to last nights fund raiser.

STUPOR
As a woman and a minority, you don't have many choices. If you don't like one candidate, you're left with no other options. Also, as I mentioned before, most of the candidates are token-sellouts.

Shane
Why should I have to learn Spanish? I don't want to go to any place that speaks it, and feel I should not have to know it to go to the store down the street! That's it. I want to speak German god damn it and I want every store to translate for me, I want German food in every store, and I demand that everyone learn German to make me feel better about it. How would you like it if I acted like that???

STUPOR
Suppose you had to learn Spanish. Nothing wrong with it, right? Your problem is that you think English is the dominant language. Sure it's the most widely spoken, but by no means better than any other language.

Shane
I don't know what its like to be a woman or not to be white, but neither of you know what it's like to be a guy in this liberal world. To get blamed for everything, and to be expected to suck it up. To have others say you're so lucky and you look like a loser when you don't have a great job, or a lot of money. A place where all men who are not gay are pigs. How does it feel to be me? There's no station dedicated to me, there's no websites dedicated to me, no books. I know more about being a woman or a minority than you do about being a white male, because I have read the books, I have seen the shows and stations. You don't even know what it's like to be a white male who makes every fucking attempt to be non racist, non sexist, non bigot and yet still, he still gets blamed for all of the above. To add a spit onto his face he gets discriminated against and is told white people can't be discriminated against. He then has to go to private school because the non white kids don't like him because he's white and a guy. It would be okay for a girl to be white.

STUPOR
First of all, this country is not liberal. Watch TV and most of the views expressed are disproportionately conservative because that's where all the money comes from. Your problem is that you think you have to be against me. You say there's nothing dedicated to you, but the majority of the things you learn in school are about dead white Anglo WASP males. It would be ridiculous to write a novel about the white male mystique and to have a special channel dedicated to white males. Put on your television. I guarantee you that if you watch TV, you could see straight-through for hours, movies made by white men about white men, starring a disproportionate number of white men. That's mainstream culture. First of all, white is not even considered a race. It is simply the status quo, so it is impossible that this is a racist comment. If you're not white, you're a minority or simply the other. White people do not ever have to think about their race. It is pure and simple as that. I don't want to tell you how to think...this is just the way things are.

John
You are so unbelievably thick.

Brent
Always your retort when someone comes back with and intelligent comment. Technically speaking white isn't. It is a skin tone. You have a lot to learn, kid.

STUPOR
Well, strip the literal meaning away and you'll get what I mean.

John
STUPOR seems to flaunt the word racist around quite a bit considering there are no races to be racist about.

STUPOR
Naivete. Why do I even bother with you and when did I ever point fingers calling people racist? And why do you deny that racism exists?

Dan
Oh, so by that same comment, black is not a race... therefore those of us born in America are American. My whole point from the beginning. I cannot speak for all white people, but I do not think about race. I have friends of all colors. I do not say "hey, there's Edward" and think "Filipino." I think "friend."

STUPOR
And you wanted a medal for that? You're not getting what I mean. There is no way you can define an American. We are inevitably separated. That's why it's important to recognize it and to proceed with that recognition.

John
STUPOR, is this a racist comment? "I do not find black women attractive."

STUPOR
It sure is, although I'm not even about to reason with you. You're saying all blacks look the same.

John
The point is, is that STUPOR claims that white is not a race but that black is. Does that make any sense to you?

STUPOR
Once again, lets strip the literal meaning out and maybe we'll get somewhere.

Chris
Those three black kids from "Me Myself and Irene" were fucking hilarious.

GM
End of discussion!

-STUPOR

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