Collaborative Group Chat Task

From the Online Unit "Valencia Modernist Architecture"

Dafne Gonzalez, 2002


 One (out of 30) of the group chat sessions carried out during the online unit

Group Chat 1: 

Section 3, Week 3  - Group 2: Daniel Mata, Linda  Rodulfo, Alejandra Amorín, Ingrid and Ricardo (absent)

lindarodulfo (04:31:26 PM): we `re family... I got all my sister with me!!!1

pingridn (04:31:32 PM): why, what for?

lindarodulfo (04:31:47 PM): we`re

pingridn (04:32:11 PM): to describe what you did???

lindarodulfo (04:32:14 PM): we need to talk HERE about all the summarys

elultimoingles (04:32:28 PM): TO DISCUSS...

lindarodulfo (04:32:29 PM): no exactly...

lindarodulfo (04:32:44 PM): do discuss ) daniel let finish!!=

dygonza (04:32:52 PM): yes, you need to agree about the characteristics that are shared by the buildings you all described

elultimoingles (04:33:07 PM): WE'RE SUPPOSED TO MAKE COMMENTS ABOUT THE OTHE'S WRITTINGS..

lindarodulfo (04:33:09 PM): which are the common elements of the buildings.

lindarodulfo (04:33:39 PM): for example: all the buildings have a lot of ornaments

dygonza (04:33:41 PM): please, do not shout Daniel

elultimoingles (04:33:52 PM): I'M NOT

ale_toad (04:34:06 PM): Ok, I think that the style of the ornamentation of all the buildings was very related to each other

lindarodulfo (04:34:13 PM): daniel now you can talk

pingridn (04:34:15 PM): Alejandra has the swallows building where everything is swallows

dygonza (04:34:22 PM): yes, linda that is it. Remember that is is a paragraph so you need to follow the form of a paragraph

elultimoingles (04:35:03 PM): OK, THEY ARE ALL SECESSIONIST

pingridn (04:35:28 PM): and beautifull birds, but what about architecture?

dygonza (04:35:30 PM): ok, explain why

elultimoingles (04:35:36 PM): ...SOME ARE NOT , BUT HISTORICIST ISS QUITE CLOSE...

lindarodulfo (04:35:48 PM): let me try again: "... in this buildings wue can see how the complexity on the facades are similares

dygonza (04:35:50 PM): please, Daniel it is not of a good taste to use capital letters in chats

ale_toad (04:35:56 PM): so, the materials used are very similar too, wroght Iron, for example

elultimoingles (04:36:06 PM): SORRY

dygonza (04:36:08 PM): yes, Ale

pingridn (04:36:12 PM): whats secessionist?

elultimoingles (04:36:28 PM): WHAT DOES WROUGHT MEANs

elultimoingles (04:36:35 PM): ?

dygonza (04:36:40 PM): you have dictionaries to consult

lindarodulfo (04:36:42 PM): DANIEL QUITA LAS MAYUSCULAS!!!!

dygonza (04:36:49 PM): no spanish please

elultimoingles (04:36:52 PM): ya las quite..

pingridn (04:36:55 PM): "forjado"

elultimoingles (04:36:59 PM): ok

lindarodulfo (04:37:03 PM): sorry

ale_toad (04:38:09 PM): So, i think that in all the cases the facades are the most resaltant aspec of the building

lindarodulfo (04:38:12 PM): another thing that is important is that all the buildings ( in think) was made for the burgueise

elultimoingles (04:38:19 PM): the're all houses.. right?

lindarodulfo (04:38:30 PM): yes

ale_toad (04:38:37 PM): Yes, or apartment buildings

dygonza (04:38:39 PM): apartment buildings some

elultimoingles (04:38:40 PM): ..ressidential i men

ale_toad (04:38:47 PM): yes

lindarodulfo (04:38:48 PM): yes!!!

pingridn (04:38:51 PM): yes, maybe because only matters how they are integrated to the city

ale_toad (04:39:00 PM): and i agree with linda

elultimoingles (04:39:12 PM): ... but what about ricardo's railroad station...

elultimoingles (04:39:29 PM): what does that had to do with the other ones...

lindarodulfo (04:40:03 PM): I think that is was b`cause only them had the money to pay for ( did you remember )

pingridn (04:40:05 PM): trough the facades

lindarodulfo (04:40:08 PM): te video)

elultimoingles (04:40:29 PM): .... but.... considering that its integration to the urban landmark is what is in fact important...

lindarodulfo (04:40:32 PM): i dont understand the Ricardos`s summary

ale_toad (04:40:34 PM): that`s why isn`t showed in any picture, an interior space, but only the facades

pingridn (04:40:45 PM): mee too

ale_toad (04:40:52 PM): neither do i!!

dygonza (04:41:01 PM): Ricardo is not here today?

lindarodulfo (04:41:11 PM): no he had to go

elultimoingles (04:41:14 PM): why aren't any pictures involving the surroundings...

ale_toad (04:41:22 PM): no, he`s not

pingridn (04:41:26 PM): the ornamentation is what matters, i think

elultimoingles (04:41:36 PM): me too

pingridn (04:41:40 PM): or interior spaces

ale_toad (04:41:44 PM): in all cases!!!

lindarodulfo (04:41:50 PM): did anybody sow the Ricardo`s building?

ale_toad (04:41:58 PM): interior spaces decoration

elultimoingles (04:42:02 PM): yes, i did

lindarodulfo (04:42:06 PM): and?

ale_toad (04:42:10 PM): no

pingridn (04:42:17 PM): yes, the ilumination is nice

lindarodulfo (04:42:21 PM): can you please tell us how it was?

elultimoingles (04:42:24 PM): is kin of The Catedral de Notredame

lindarodulfo (04:42:32 PM): hummmm

ale_toad (04:42:43 PM): and always the facade is sculpted

dygonza (04:42:46 PM): you can all see the vbuilding in the photoes section

dygonza (04:42:52 PM): photos

elultimoingles (04:42:53 PM): pretty much so..

pingridn (04:43:15 PM): Yes, like Gaudi`s facades

lindarodulfo (04:43:19 PM): another thing that i just remember is that almost all the buildingshad refernces of other styles...

pingridn (04:43:37 PM): art nouveau..............

elultimoingles (04:43:41 PM): like for instance....?

ale_toad (04:43:47 PM): our buildings??

lindarodulfo (04:43:48 PM): gothic

pingridn (04:43:51 PM): historicist style...

elultimoingles (04:43:55 PM): you mean like influences?

lindarodulfo (04:43:56 PM): yep!!

ale_toad (04:44:03 PM): yeah, sometimes

lindarodulfo (04:44:05 PM): thankss. that`s the word

pingridn (04:44:08 PM): all to the past

dygonza (04:44:10 PM): Good work so far, keep it up

ale_toad (04:44:16 PM): but no so evident!!

lindarodulfo (04:44:17 PM): now you get it!!!

elultimoingles (04:44:39 PM): so.... are we done here?

pingridn (04:44:52 PM): my building has influences to medieval architecture

lindarodulfo (04:44:53 PM): I dont think so

lindarodulfo (04:45:23 PM): mine as gothic

pingridn (04:45:24 PM): why?

elultimoingles (04:45:30 PM): mine is secessionist

lindarodulfo (04:45:37 PM): why what?

ale_toad (04:46:04 PM): i think mine is kind of barroque

pingridn (04:46:17 PM): i though you were saying that my building is not medieval, sorry

ale_toad (04:46:21 PM): what does scessionist means??

elultimoingles (04:46:38 PM): i'm not quite sure...

elultimoingles (04:46:42 PM): i think...

elultimoingles (04:47:16 PM): is the european style in the post war period...

elultimoingles (04:47:24 PM): ww12

elultimoingles (04:47:31 PM): sorr... ww1

lindarodulfo (04:48:06 PM): is WWI

pingridn (04:48:09 PM): ahh, can you say some characterisctic of this period, Daniel

ale_toad (04:48:25 PM): ahh, ok aroun the beggining of modernism

elultimoingles (04:48:39 PM): is kind of a SERIOUS arch

elultimoingles (04:48:52 PM): where everything is

ale_toad (04:49:04 PM): like medieval?? or something?

elultimoingles (04:49:06 PM): all the shapes are straight

elultimoingles (04:49:22 PM): no, rather poor

pingridn (04:49:26 PM): ortogonal??????

elultimoingles (04:49:38 PM): ...scarce is the actual word

ale_toad (04:49:39 PM): or curved??

lindarodulfo (04:49:41 PM): like la bauhaus??

ale_toad (04:49:54 PM): ahh ok....got it!!

lindarodulfo (04:51:11 PM): is like the period of recesi?( sorry but i dont have any idea how write this word)

elultimoingles (04:51:38 PM): exaclty!!!

elultimoingles (04:51:43 PM): wel DONE!!!!

lindarodulfo (04:51:49 PM): the people are broke!!!

elultimoingles (04:52:10 PM): ...so everything is quite simple...

lindarodulfo (04:52:12 PM): the dont have a locha!!!!

pingridn (04:52:21 PM): jajaja

elultimoingles (04:52:36 PM): ...but still not modern...

pingridn (04:52:41 PM): i feel so identified with that period

lindarodulfo (04:52:46 PM): but this building was put in the folder for a reason.. don toy think?

elultimoingles (04:52:47 PM): is more like neoclassical...

ale_toad (04:52:56 PM): so, what about the form of our buildings? I think they didn`t have anything strange from the oters, i think they all are like "sculpted boxes"

elultimoingles (04:53:38 PM): ...i think because it shows some other way of ornament

lindarodulfo (04:53:41 PM): I like that phrase.. ".. sculpted boxes..? can I use?

elultimoingles (04:53:44 PM): ...another style...

elultimoingles (04:53:50 PM): another teratment...

ale_toad (04:53:50 PM): or facades over facades

lindarodulfo (04:53:58 PM): treatment

pingridn (04:54:03 PM): yes, youre right, but the enclose a nice city.........

ale_toad (04:54:04 PM):

elultimoingles (04:54:07 PM): sory...

ale_toad (04:54:29 PM): they make great city`s spaces

ale_toad (04:55:59 PM): are we done now?

lindarodulfo (04:56:04 PM): ok all this is very good but listen up... what is the conection of the daniel`s building with the other ( because i think that the others the conection is more explicit)

pingridn (04:57:37 PM): Dafne, all this buildings are in the same city??????

dygonza (04:58:44 PM): yes, in Valencia

lindarodulfo (04:58:47 PM): now i get it

pingridn (04:58:51 PM): they all have the same color, floors.........

ale_toad (04:58:59 PM): materials...

lindarodulfo (04:59:05 PM): ale did you see the daniel`s picture

pingridn (04:59:10 PM): about six floors

ale_toad (04:59:14 PM): yes i did....

pingridn (04:59:31 PM): wrhought iron balconies

lindarodulfo (04:59:36 PM): well the have the treatment that my building

pingridn (04:59:41 PM): wrought iron

lindarodulfo (04:59:45 PM): did you read my summary?

pingridn (04:59:56 PM): of course

lindarodulfo (05:00:22 PM): you can read in the facde all the building`s parts

ale_toad (05:00:25 PM): but i think it is not quite different from the others, I think that the one that is different is the Railroad statio

pingridn (05:00:30 PM): how your building is connected to the ground level and the sky

lindarodulfo (05:00:43 PM): ?

lindarodulfo (05:00:50 PM): is that a question?

pingridn (05:00:54 PM): no

lindarodulfo (05:01:00 PM): ahh...

pingridn (05:01:24 PM): thats what youre summarie is about

lindarodulfo (05:01:27 PM): the 9 apartment is just like mine in that aspect

elultimoingles (05:01:30 PM): mine doesn't even shows that

elultimoingles (05:01:37 PM): (at least one of them)

ale_toad (05:01:39 PM): even the context of each building is similar

lindarodulfo (05:01:45 PM): ohh yes it does!!!

lindarodulfo (05:01:49 PM): (icon of mad face)

pingridn (05:01:51 PM): yes i agree with you

elultimoingles (05:01:55 PM): the other one is pretty much like a cake

lindarodulfo (05:02:02 PM): dondt you EVER ...

ale_toad (05:02:36 PM): Dafne, are we done now?

pingridn (05:02:37 PM): a wedding cake

dygonza (05:02:46 PM): can I have a piece?

lindarodulfo (05:02:49 PM): je,je.. BUT A PRETTY ONE...

elultimoingles (05:02:49 PM): yep...

elultimoingles (05:03:01 PM): a fairly pretty one...

dygonza (05:03:11 PM): ok, now one of you have to write the conclusions

pingridn (05:03:15 PM): an expensive one

elultimoingles (05:03:16 PM): ...by the way... i'm humrry

lindarodulfo (05:03:24 PM): hungry

elultimoingles (05:03:29 PM): yep

lindarodulfo (05:03:31 PM): or horny

ale_toad (05:03:34 PM): me too ok who is going to start

lindarodulfo (05:03:44 PM): sorry sorry

dygonza (05:03:56 PM): and then pass it to another member of the group, and so forth until it comes back to the one who wrote the first draft

lindarodulfo (05:04:04 PM): (angel face icon)

dygonza (05:04:18 PM): then, you have to send me the whole stuff as an attachment to my e-mail

lindarodulfo (05:04:36 PM): who is the ONE ??

pingridn (05:04:38 PM): ok

pingridn (05:04:44 PM): ricardo

dygonza (05:04:45 PM): you have the whole week to do that, but you can do it now

dygonza (05:04:56 PM): you decide who that ONE should be

pingridn (05:05:02 PM): i prefer to do it now

lindarodulfo (05:05:06 PM): I choose.....

lindarodulfo (05:05:11 PM): tatarataaaaa....

lindarodulfo (05:05:16 PM): DANIEL!!

lindarodulfo (05:05:31 PM): who is with me?

lindarodulfo (05:06:10 PM): i have to go I can finish later if somebody send to me

pingridn (05:06:11 PM): is not fair

pingridn (05:06:44 PM): you can send the chat to youre self

ale_toad (05:06:52 PM): mee too, so we finish and send the chat and the conclusions to ricardo so he can read what we talked about, add his comments and send the archive to dafne

ale_toad (05:07:17 PM): ok so start linda

lindarodulfo (05:07:20 PM): ah ok

pingridn (05:07:22 PM): i agree with Ale

lindarodulfo (05:07:32 PM): WHAT????

lindarodulfo (05:07:35 PM): (mad face)

lindarodulfo (05:07:41 PM): is not fair

lindarodulfo (05:07:44 PM): is not fair

lindarodulfo (05:07:46 PM): is not fair

lindarodulfo (05:07:50 PM): is not fair

elultimoingles (05:07:54 PM): STOP

lindarodulfo (05:07:55 PM): and...

ale_toad (05:07:58 PM): you start first, you finish first, you go first

dygonza (05:08:01 PM): (crying face icon)

lindarodulfo (05:08:03 PM): IS NOT FFFAAAIIIIRRR!!!!!!!!!!!

lindarodulfo (05:08:35 PM): GUAAAA!!!!1 ( SNIF, SNIF) (crying face)

elultimoingles (05:08:43 PM): ...so....

elultimoingles (05:08:48 PM): calm down..

lindarodulfo (05:08:56 PM): my musa is not with me right now... can you please call her later

dygonza (05:09:46 PM): Remember that you all have to read what the ONE has written, and say if you agree or not, and then when every body has read it, the ONE sends it to me and to the rest of you

pingridn (05:11:06 PM): the most important aspect in our chat was the character of the facades, right?

pingridn (05:15:53 PM): the facades are different, but have some things in common, such as hight, color, materials

ale_toad (05:16:42 PM): and how those building are like "sculpted boxes" because of the exagerated design of the facades in contrast to space. But they all respect the context of the city.

lindarodulfo (05:23:04 PM): now....

lindarodulfo (05:23:16 PM): here is my baby!!!

lindarodulfo (05:23:22 PM):

We can conclude that all the buildings are the same intentions, is just like if the architect was trying to create a unique piece "sculpt" , with facades really beatiful . In another hand we also talk about the material taht are the same in all the cases ( wrought iron, etc - I cant remember the others ) and the inclusions on the facades of organics motives, greats balconys, and the corcnices in some of the expamples...

To finish I think we also talk about the historicist style and how all the buildings ( most of they) are influences for differebt styles from the past and how this influences wasn`t so explicity isjust like in the video: " styles reinterpretations, with the technology of this time..."

 

elultimoingles (05:23:41 PM): now mine:

elultimoingles (05:23:44 PM): What our chat was about:

 

 

we graceously talked about our buildings, and the fact that ornamet play a fairly important role in the contitution of buildings. Ornamentation is also crucial for defining/identifying a style, and it has a profound impact on the city its placed upon. So, all these buildings -deeply carved/sculpted- in ourt very UNIQUE way actually talk about how the building is and what it pretends to be -whatever that means-.

dygonza (05:30:14 PM): save what you have done here

lindarodulfo (05:30:18 PM): but just a litlle question

lindarodulfo (05:30:37 PM): i forgot...

dygonza (05:30:38 PM): and with that information you have to write a word document

dygonza (05:30:43 PM): yes, tell me

dygonza (05:31:03 PM): following the parameters of a paragraph

lindarodulfo (05:31:03 PM): i forgot!!!

dygonza (05:31:12 PM): (wondering face)

lindarodulfo (05:31:33 PM): ok how is writing the summary?

lindarodulfo (05:31:41 PM): sorry who...

dygonza (05:31:48 PM): you have to decide about that

March 30, 2004

Dafne