Jazz Trombone F.A.Q.

 

9) What are these "speed-tonguing" techniques I keep hearing about?

 

Sam Burtis: Doodle-oodle-oodle-oodle-oodle-oodle-oodle-oodle-oodle-oodle-

oodle-oodle-oodle-oodle-oodle-oodle-oodle-oodle.

(Or syllabic variations thereof). It’s a softer, more legato, more flexible technique than

double tonguing for some people.

 

Jeff Adams: For a thorough discussion of doodle tonguing I would refer you to

Bob McChesney's book on the topic as I do not use this technique.  Practitioners

Of the doodle technique are Carl Fontana, Bill Watrous, Conrad Herwig among others.

 

Double-tonguing in jazz is often done with the lighter, duh-guh-duh-guh,

syllables.  This is used by Myself, Steve Turre', Frank Rosolino, Matt Niess

and many other pros.

 

Altered-Double-tonguing is simply turning the syllables around,

guh-duh-guh-duh.  Hal Crook is the most famous practioner and one of the

fastest and most creative improvisers on the planet.  (Incidentally he is in

charge of the improvisation department and Berklee College of Music in Boston)

 

Alex Iles: Some players you hear have VERY well developed single tongues.

[I know of several fine jazz players who can single tongue 16th notes at mm=150 or

FASTER!!].Most players learn how to manipulate "against the grain" slurs and a clean,

controlled single tongue to play across the widest range of tempos.

At some point, especially in the bebop language and beyond, you will probably need

to develop your mastery of one form of multiple [double and triple] or doodle tongue

to hang in there on faster tunes. For double tonguing in jazz, I like to use a softer

"du-gu" type of attack, rather than a super-articulate "tu-ku". I use double tonguing on fast

tempos when I am NOT using a microphone. If I do have a mic handy, I will use

more doodle tonguing. For the best examples of doodle tonguing I would also suggest

listening to Carl Fontana, Bill Watrous, and especially Bob McChesney's thorough

book [and demonstration CD] on the subject.  He lays out a course of study which

explains the whole concept very clearly. Everytime I listen to him demonstrate

what he has worked so hard to perfect [in person and on record], I am dumbfounded.

 

Chris Smith: The advantage of a softer multiple tonguing technique on trombone is

that a rapid stream of notes can be given equal weight, and sound less "ricky-ticky"

than double tonguing.

One can play repeated notes or long lines and place accents anywhere.

For playing jazz, which is what I do, it's much more of a "swinging"

tonguing technique. Unfortunately I can't explain exactly what "swing" is.

I think doodling just sounds better, at least to jazz listeners and jazz musicians.

Though there are players out there who make traditional TA-KA or DA-GA

tonguing swing, like Steve Turre, who is a giant of modern jazz trombone.

My technique, which I learned on my own, is a modified doodle, where

I put a little hint of a "K" on the second syllable, so it becomes a doo-kle.

It did take a LOT of thought and practice for me to figure out how to use an

alternate tonguing that would be CLEAR and DISTINCT. Many people can doodle

okay, but to do it with real clarity takes a lot of work. I think it was under a year of

daily practicing for me, though this was a period of very intense practice for me.

Many hours (6+) every day. Learning to play J.J.’s great solos was a big step forward.

 

What's that old saying? If you want to play fast, play fast.

 

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