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oh i'm here!!
sorry i walked away for a few
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what are we doing
Spiritual Answers for Valuing Human LIfe
is the study
oh
okay
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-TruZealot- 1 John 2:25 And this is what he promised us -- even eternal life.
Heavenly Father, we come together to fellowship in your name, we ask that you be here with us and touch those of us who need to be touched. Also we ask you be with Ashley as she does her first study, give her the wisdom and strength and confidence she needs.
We ask this in your name, Amen
Amen
Amen
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amen
sorry, i'm slow
Spiritual Answers for Valuing Human Life
We all know that God created all life etc
well there are many scriptures we can study to prove this and to strengthen our understanding and value that life holds for us
There are three questions you can ask about the discovery of man.
The first is what is the origin of man as spirit
A reference to answer that can be found in Genesis 1:27
27. So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Which is basically saying that man is created in the image of God.
Feel free to add to or help as we go
i might be out on the limb with this hehe
Genesis 2:7 7. And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
didnt god make man to followship with
yes he did...
cool
which is another value that human life holds
in genesis 2:7 it explains that God's breath is basically man's spirit.
so therefore we are men of god
we are made in his image when we look in the mirorr we see him
something like that
Zechariah 12:1 points out a very important thing to remember about life
1. The burden of the word of the Lord for Israel, saith the Lord, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him.
this verse is basically saying that God forms the spirit of man within him. Each breath is separate - each
spirit unique.
God forms the spirit of man within him. making each person unique
i was just about to say that cat :)
Unique being different aka special
i know i am very specil
:)
therefore that is a very important thing to remember.... every human is different and special in there own way
heh
therefore no valid reason to make fun of them etc
right
he gave us talents or gifts to use
Numbers 16:22 backs up the statement that God created us all
we're created in his image, and there is nothing wrong with God, therefore.....
:)
never mind
sorry cat, lol
yep
22. And they fell upon their faces, and said, O God, the God of the spirits of all flesh, shall one man sin, and wilt thou be wroth with all the congregation?
basically saying that God is the creator of all flesh-dwelling spirits.
job 33:4 also shows this
4. The Spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life.
basically explains itself
oh yes
so basically everyong has the same "father"
thats why we're brothers and sisters in christian terms :)
:)
equals
Job 34:14-15 explains that God is the ruler over us.. the Father us all
14. If he set his heart upon man, if he gather unto himself his spirit and his breath;
15. All flesh shall perish together, and man shall turn again unto dust.
Session Time: Sun Aug 06 00:00:00 2000
so basically when its time to die "perish" we all will "perish"
that brings about an important point
we never can tell when that time will be
so it is "very" important to accept God into your heart to be your saviour
as soon as possible
In the end... the Rapture... God will come and take back the ones who have him in his heart
the believers
i am working on accepting him again i walked away from him like months ago
amen tru :)
:)
God loves us all.. tries to get thru to us.. but you have to let him into your heart
he cant do it on his own
u have to let him in ur heart
Psalms 104:29-30 further strenghtens this
iron shapens iron
if you are working on it tru, then He's already there
yes erykah
29. Thou hidest thy face, they are troubled: thou takest away their breath, they die, and return to their dust.
30. Thou sendest forth thy spirit, they are created: and thou renewest the face of the earth.
This basically says God is the giver and taker of all life
we have no choice in this matter
other than being saved
accepting God into our hearts to be our saviour
he decides when ur time is to go home to be with him
yep
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should we go into part B?
yup please continue
okies
B. Who is Man as Spirit
Job 27:3 supports the fact that God is our spirit
3. All the while my breath is in me, and the spirit of God is in my nostrils;
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gen 27
basically saying mans breath is the spirit of god
for got something when i wrote it
Proverbs 20:27 brings to light somethings as well
gen 1:27 for god made man in his own image,
yep tru :)
27. The spirit of man is the candle of the Lord, searching all the inward parts of the belly.
This is basically saying that man's spirit is but a "tiny" candlelight emanating from the great God of Light
In Christ the candle light was so great that no degree of darkness could extinguish it
could u also say it this way
Re all back from the VA :)
Hi Cat
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wb dano.. join in :)
Cat I raised hell at VA
tru go on
no meds were helping
they gave me Demoral shot
lol
I ok now!!!
cool
:)
Tru.. what were ya gonna say?
i remember being told about a candle on a table with a tiny flame shine out
that couldnt be extinguished?
on top of the hill with god sprit as the flame
yes
you got it
yep i believe thats what its leading to
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Ecc. 3:19-21 helps us to understand our difference from the "beast"
19. For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity.
20. All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again.
as the flame or sprit in you dewells in you let it shine shine on
This is basically saying that altho man's physical and flesh are the same as the "beast" meaning thvi
amen tru
meaning the devil
The spirit is wholly unique of the devil.
So even tho we may have the same outward appearance we are diff. inside
where it counts
i think i am lagging again
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-TruZealot- Psalm 19:1 The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands.
nope
cool
Ecc. 12:7
7. Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
this points out that... just like the beast the mans flesh returns to the dust also
cat where r we at
but our spirit returns to God its creator
Who is man as Spirit is where we are
tell me if your ready for me to go on
i will i am thinking on this one
k
hmmmmm
?
having little trouble here
whatcha need help with
man as spirit
THere are parts of us that compare to the "beast" devil....
but...
the fine line is...
ok
both of our flesh returns to the earth as dust
but "our" spirit returns to our creator God
if we have taken him to be our saviour
into our hearts
that help any?
yup
:)
James 2:26 helps to explain what we are without the spirit of God
our bodie will decay into the earth
26. For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
yep Tru :)
basically saying without the spirit we are none
the body dies
amen Tru
as we live our spirit is in this shell moving around
The physical does not die when the spirit departs, it is the spirit that departs thus leaving the flesh life-less.
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basically the spirit "is" the life
when the body dies off our souls are realeased to him, our body are just a temp house for our soul
yep yep :)
Job 10:18-19 points out also
18. Wherefore then hast thou brought me forth out of the womb? Oh that I had given up the ghost, and no eye had seen me!
19. I should have been as though I had not been; I should have been carried from the womb to the grave.
this points out that the spirit is with us before we have been conceived
brought forth into the world by our mom's
the spirit is the life force, not to get it confuse with star wars my little joke there
:)
yea it is
Jer 1:4-5
this is fun
4. Then the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,
5. Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
basically pointing out that we are in the mind of God before actual implantation on earth.
lol tru, just saw your star wars joke, hehehe
and for us to go out in the world to teach the word, and you have purpose in life while on the earth
like it
yes
lol
yep.. God spoke to me last nite... telling me.. I should study further...
I believe this is an example of what he meant
so am i on the mark
\o/
:)
amen
:)
did i tell you i cant read books but i know how to on the screen
Hebrews 7:9-10 supports this
really?
im glad we're doing this tonight then :)
yup
9. And as I may so say, Levi also, who receiveth tithes, payed tithes in Abraham.
10. For he was yet in the loins of his father, when Melchisedec met him.
Levi was in the loins of Abraham three generations before being upon the earth.
with his purpose of coming predesigned by God.
God has a purpose for "all" of us
we may not see it now.. but we will be shown it in the future
Luke 24:39
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sorry that was isp :(
39. Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
-TruZealot- James 1:5 If any of you lacks wisdom, he should ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given to him.
my dad acepted him at the end like 3 weeks before he died
This is basically saying that Jesus says the spirit is not flesh and bone
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that's awesome tru
amen tru
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:)
1 week before he asked me for forgiveness i said to him ur forgiven dad
:)
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awww
:)
The spirit does not need a totally formed fetus to exist
he was at his happiest those last three weeks then :)
nor is it dependent on all physical inventories to survive
on sunday april 26 1987 on my grandpas birthday he was gone i never got to say goodbye but i know he knew i knew
h eknew ya loved him
Tru have u accepted God as your saviour?
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yes in 96
in the month of oct the 2 week on thursday nite service
if anyone feels they would like to renew that with God.. we can get a session on that pretty soon
it took me 9 yrs to find him
should i go on?
i can tell u the whole thing how it happend too
Lets finish B then hear tru's story to finish it up
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yup
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Lets finish B then hear tru's story to finish it up
to add a sorta a nice ending to it
cool
cat!!!!!!
now i am a 168lb
im gonna kill my isp
i missed what u said tru
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i don't think she missed anything, just the part about when you were a baby
glue anyone?
she connected back pretty fast that time