Crablover Don On: Equipment

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Message 163

From: CRABLOVER DON  <kritterlandusa@xxxxx.xxxx>

Date: Thu Oct 21, 1999 3:04pm

Subject: Re: Re: Spraying INSIDE the crabitat...

 

Ken (and all):

 

Natural (or sea sponges) can be purchased at most pet stores. I have found that crafts stores such as Michaels and (even our local Walmart had some for sale!)...carries these natural sponges and often at a better price! AVOID man made(kitchen) sponges because they harbor bacteria and are not a good thing for your guys health. Sea/natural sponges are harvested from the 'waters' and if kept clean and 'fresh' will last a great while. I usually buy two at a time and alternate them. I rinse mine out daily (run it under tap water, then soak it it dechlorinated water until it is ready for use.)

 

While not all shells are suitable for hermit crabs, you can find suitable ones as Michaels, etc. I have found some great buys there but usually purchase mine from the pet store. If your local petstore does not carry shells, many people have had good results from purchasing shell via the net from Sea Shell City.

 

They have a site and from what I understand they sell many other hermit crabs products such as FMR Food and Treat and choya wood( a GREAT thing for climbing...they eat n it too!) at pretty good prices.

 

A clam shell will work, I use a 'swimming pool' dish by FMR. You can go to their web site and veiw their products and get an idea of what is available in the stores. FMR does not sell to the public, but they can refer you to stores close to you that do sell their products. Here is the info you might use:

 

Monday-Friday 9:00 a.m.-5:00p.m. EST.

The number is: 1-800-535-2722.

Their e-mail is: fmrpets@gte.net

Website: www.fmrpets.com

 

 

    Hope this helps... Choya is actually the 'skeleton' of a cactus and well worth the money to watch them playing and climbing on it! Other good basics are a stick-on thermometer and a piece of cuttlebone to place in the tank.  The cuttlebone is an excellent source of calcium and it is fairly cheap! It is found in the 'bird' dept. We place a dry cuttlebone in the tank and let the fellas go for it.... my smaller ones 'eat' more on it, but they also love to play on it.  Good Luck and Happy Crabbing!  D  

Message 173

From: CRABLOVER DON  <kritterlandusa@xxxxx.xxxx>

Date: Fri Oct 22, 1999 7:05am

Subject: Re: Sponge size

 

Ken:

 

The size of the sponge depends on: if you are using it only for creating humidity; as an aide to 'help' enable the guys to climb out of the water source, etc.

 

I have some guys who sit on top of the 'humidity' sponge which 'fills' a small FMR 'swimming pool' and I have two smaller sponges in their water dish allowing them some 'traction' to crawl out of the medium FMR pool. The water source allows for a little 'wading', drinking and play. like Dawn said, natural sponges can be found in the cosmetic areas, but they are often 'treated' and much more expensive than what you can find in a crafts section. I learned the L4B (look for bargains) routine through my years as an art student, teacher of art in publicschools and a crafter in my 'older' years!!

 

Good Luck and Happy Crabbing!

 

 Don

--- Beach Kid beachkid@b... wrote:

From: Beach Kid beachkid@b...

 

Thank you for your reply. Approximately, how big or small the sponge should be? Twice the size of the largest crab or something relative to their size? Again, thank you.

 

Ken 

MESSAGE 299

From: CRABLOVER DON  <kritterlandusa@xxxxx.xxxx>

Date: Thu Nov 4, 1999 8:43pm

Subject: Humidity...in reply to Tory

 

Tory:

 

Heat rises thus creating the moisture from the water source to create the humidity. A bulb alone will not do this. That is why it is recommended to use a bulb as the secondary source of heat. Do you register your temp at substrate level? This is where your crabs spent the majority of their time... You might consider looking into an undertank heater to improve the level of humidity. Using the bulb can actually make the inner tank atmosphere drier and not what you wish or desire. You may wish to look back on the posts relating to 'keepin' them warm'... Good Luck!

 

Don

From: Tory tortilla88@y...

Not to drive the issue into the ground, but:

I have a water dish (approx. 4x2.5x.25) with a sea sponge.  I also have 1 15 watt reptile black light. The temp has been staying steady at 73.5 degrees (even though we had a 30 degree drop outside).  But my humidity strip is not even registering.   Any suggestions? Tory

 

 

Message 353

From: CRABLOVER DON  <kritterlandusa@xxxxx.xxx>

Date: Wed Nov 10, 1999 7:02pm

Subject: Various Subject Matters....plus IMPORTANT FMR INFO

 

Folks:

 

Sorry about these 'delayed' posts, they were written a few day ago... and shared with Vanessa, but somewhere, some how lost in that mysterious cyber world of space.... before they made it as posts to this forum! Vanessa was gracious enough to have sent them back.... hope nothing is too late for advice ...

 

CLD

 

.......................................................

 

concerning the safety of a heating pad:

 

.......................................................

 

Personally, I would not attempt to use a heating pad UNDER a tank. These things need air circulation to work properly. I would be afraid that it would overheat. The undertank heaters come with warnings/ instructions not to place the 'tank' on carpet or other 'soft' surfaces...while the heater is on...and they come with little 'stick on risers' to elevate the bottom of the tank so 'air' can circulate between the surfaces.

 

We have being using the FMR heaters for over two and one half years and have been very pleased with the results.  I highly recommend their quality. Hopefully, the need for extra warmth won't come about until your heaters get to you... but again, I would not suggest the use of a regular heating pad since they are not designed for this particular use. Good Luck and Happy

 

Crabbing! CLD

 

.......................................................

 

additional info about warmth

 

.......................................................

 

Folks:

 

I am going to add a little to an earlier post. I wanted to back up what Jenn posted about using the foam board as an insulator. It has been a staple at Kritterland from the beginning!

 

My first crabs were adopted in the middle of the winter in February of '97. They were in a medium sized plastic 'kritter carrier'... I was very concerned about taking them out in the cool air, knowing that they shouldn't get chilled.... We were at an indoors Arts and Crafts show....and as we were  looking I saw the ideal remedy....Someone was selling  those soft-sided insulated lunch/beverage coolers.  SO........... my new guys came home warm and happy  that night.  The 'six-pack' size worked for that  medium carrier!   We now have several sizes of  carriers and coolers just 'incase'... the first one  stays in the car just incase we go to a pet store....  Works great in the summer too to keep the sun from  baking them...another serves as a back-up 'iso area'  

 

    Now, the problem of warmth after getting them here...was another concern!  Being a former art  teacher,  I had some foam board sitting around so I  got out the old exacto knife and we created an  insulated 'box' to go around the carrier... This was  adapted to work with each upgrade to larger  tanks...with the foamboard around the back and sides  of the tank... (one sheet of foamboard takes care of a ten gallon tank.) It was cheap and worked well. Since  then I have suggested it to many folks as an  alternative. I used this while doing my studies with  the undertank heaters and nocturnal light bulbs. I  found that I could MAINTAIN a much better and  consistant temperature level with the three-sided  insulation than without it. I have passed along this  suggestion to many others and it works quite well in a school setting....allowing the kids to change the  backgrounds with their art work....  I do have 'front  covers of foam board to use in case of an emergency  .... I have used other colors but prefer the white  foamboard... and using clear or white tape to make the hinged 'corners'... have used velcro to secure the  pieces also... So since then we still use the  insulation idea... plus, the crabs can see their  reflections better and their activies at that are very entertaining!  I like the fact Jenn gave this 'thing'  a name.... "Crab-gloo" is much more catchy than 'the  box'...  Have fun with this and let your imagination  go wild.  One school here had a contest to see which  class had the best 'backdrops' for their crabs... some changed the background weekly....it was great fun and  a good project for both art and science lessons....  with the little hermies benefitting from all the fun 'environments' created just for them.  As Jenn pointed  out this is a fairly cheap way to go until you can get alternative heating!  

 

Have fun and Happy Crabbing!

 

Message 357

From: CRABLOVER DON  <kritterlandusa@xxxxx.xxxx>

Date: Thu Nov 11, 1999 8:54am

Subject: Sponge Problems.....

 

Hope no one else had any problems with the site.... I have been in and out all morning with no problems. If anyone else has had difficulties please let Vanessa or me know... so one of us can check into it asap.

 

Thanks... CLD

 

.......................................................

 

Christa:

 

A LARGE SPONGE in a dish with water in it... close to or over one of the undertank FMR heaters. This is the exact arrangement that we use at kritterland for tank humidity. The 'kids' love to climb on, play on and chew on this sponge. The key is having a couple of them, so they may be switched out on a regular basis to prevent any mold or bacterial growth. We change ours out every other day and thoroughly clean the 'dish' it sits in.

 

Several weeks ago, on the LHC Board several people addressed the task of cleaning the sponges. I have found that a thorough rinse in hot water only and a short soak in a seasalt solution...followed by a rinse in with some dechlorinated water....squeezed and air-dried.... the sponges can be used for several weeks before having to be replaced. Have not had any growth problems using this method.

 

I do want to make it clear that this is something I WANTED to try....it is NOT a NECESSITY! All my guys seemed to like the extra 'climb toy' and it worked for me as far as helping the humidity in the tank, it became a win/win addition and a part of life at Kritterlandusa. The major thing is these large natural sponges are costly, and to maintain them is a MUST! Anyone 'electing' to try this route needs to be aware that neglecting the cleaning of the sponge on a regular basis is asking for problems. We also replace the drinking water daily... so the 'sponge cleaning' is just another routine we have gotten into. Happy Crabbing! CLD

 

  Message 370

From: CRABLOVER DON  <kritterlandusa@xxxxx.xxxx>

Date: Sat Nov 13, 1999 9:07am

Subject: [Fwd: hi i have a hermit crab question...

 

Vanessa and others:

 

I believe I may have an answer to the question that you 'posed' about the 'mysterious film' in the water dish. It is probably the residue from the (traces of) oil that is used in many of the commercial crab foods. This oil is used since our guys need a bit of it in their diet...This DOES NOT mean to feed them extra oil....THAT could kill them! The oil also enhances the flavor of these foods. FMR, I know, does use/add some oil (soybean and coconut) in/to their Food, but not their Treat. Another 'culprit' could well be the 'oils' from the natural foods such as the coconut, etc. you feed your crabs.

 

This is why it is most/very important to clean out those water dishes and change out the old "drinking" water for fresh, clean water on a daily basis. Those little legs can 'pick up' lots of stuff from that food dish... then, they 'wade' through the water... get the pix? Just another good reason why a good, vigorous 'swimming' bath once or twice a week is very important!

 

These bathes can dislodge food and wastes often lodged within your little buddies shell. A minute or so of a good 'leg kickin' bath usually 'dislodges' any 'gunk'... traces of sand, bits of food, bodily wastes... making your little guys happy and well cleansed 'campers'! While it may seem LIKE a great idea to bathe your guys each dayor two, this is not necessary and can be harmful to their health. Too much bathing can strip away the natural'slime coating' that is necessary for the healthy gill functioning of your crab. Hope this helps and Happy Crabbing! CLD

 

Message 419

From: CRABLOVER DON  <kritterlandusa@xxxxx.xxxx>

Date: Thu Nov 18, 1999 3:48am

Subject: Fwd: Some answers for Diana

 

"I observed that the crabs really liked crawling over the hardware screen that had pieces of sponge, coral and driftwood tied to it."

 

    What you saw was probably one of the FMR inserts that they sell  of critter carriers and tanks... They are sold in several sizes. (see below)   A creative, attractive product which which enhances the the starter sets.  It allows the pet to have more surface room to roam, and an area to climb and frolic. The background consists of colored wire on which is placed natural sponges for moisture, colored coral, and painted shells. Also available for the 5, 10, 20 gal glass.

 

Item#  71001 1 Gal Background  

 

Item#  71002 2 Gal Background  

 

Item#  71003 3 Gal Background  

 

vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv

 

QUESTION: Does anyone have the dimensions on a 20 gallon aquarium? I was given a "big" aquarium by a neighbor and don't have a clue as to its size in gallons. It measures:

 

>23 1/2 Length, 12 1/2>Width, 16 1/2 Height. The reason I want to know is so I can figure out how much a regular>aquarium top for this size would run me.

 

Oh course ten gallon tanks are considered STANDARD size tanks.... Other size usually cost more and the accessories do run higher. Twenty gallon tanks can be regular or 'long'... Your best and easiest bet would be to call a pet store or aquarium shop and give them the dimensions... Companies who make the glass-hinged tops have guides that they can use to tell you exactly what you will need...most larger stores keep the 'general ' sizes in stock... Jenn had an older model glass/metal aquarium and some modifications had to be made for her to be able to use a glass hinged top. In most cases now, finding a stock piece is not that costly.... and very much worth it. Still puzzled about your condensation problems....Are you not propping the top open some and or benefiting from the venting of the top? Sounds as if there is no ventilation going on.... use a piece of sponge, cardboard, bottle cap, etc, to prop a 'corner' up for air circulation...it should not have that 'sealed' effect that you want in a plant terrarium.

 

Also, how could I adequately sterilize something this big? Would washing it out with bleach water hurt if I let it air dry before setting it up for the crabbies?

 

Since you know that crabs are most sensitive to cleaning fluids and soap powders, etc. These are all big No, No's..... We use a good old NATURAL cleaning product... VINEGAR.... Plain old white vinegar to 'wash' and lots of rinsing.... In the bath tub.... with a 'show hose'.... it is soooooooooo easy and the aquarium comes out sparkling.... Just another one of those Kritterlandism 'borrowed' from the from the annuals of Heloise!

 

Also, I thought FMR didn't ship to the public. How did you get crabs from an FMR store?

 

Diana, the same as you.... An "FMR Store" simply means a store that carries FMR products.... Like the ones Kathy sent you to...

 

Message 441

From: CRABLOVER DON  <kritterlandusa@xxxxx.xxxx>

Date: Fri Nov 19, 1999 5:58pm

Subject: Re: Shells

 

Diana:

 

FMR does mention on their care sheet that "all shells are not suitable for (hermit) crab homes..."{To ensure that tree crabs function in their homes, shells should be properly cleaned, processed and chosen by a knowledgeable hermit crab distributor. copied from "Health Notes"...FMR Care Sheet}

 

It is true, "some" shells are treated...and coated to enhance their beauty. But I have been known to shop the bargains at Michael's... Found several great larger "muffin" shells for my larger guys... paid 99 cents for the same sized shell...with the same little gold tag 'sticker' as the ones sold in one of our better mom and pop pet stores...selling for four dollars! Yes, I did 'boil' them ...soaking them and pouring extra hot water over them... Ironically, several of my FMR crabs were adopted 'wearing' the same style shells I found at Michael's. I did find that a majority of the shells were not suitable for my fellas use, but why pay such a 'mark-up' for the same shell? I talked with Kathy about my find(s) .... She was in agreement of 'go for it'... as long as I made sure they were properly cleaned... So far we have had no problems... Have several guys in them for about a year... and so far all is well.

 

I can see Vanessa's caution, because a friend ordered some shells from another country (for her vast shell collection) and they were 'treated' with acid to etch designs, toxic paints to decorate and other chems to polish them to a high gloss... FMR and most of the other hermit crab distributors use non-toxic paints and 'sealers' on the shell products they sell. Some places use 'Kool-aid' to tint their shells to add a little color to the often dull 'natural' shells.

 

I do have a warning though.... FMR uses an epoxy coating on their higher glossed shells...some places use a polymer.... Boiling the shells for too long can melt that polymer right off, peeling and exposing the natural color of the natural shell. Also, rinsing them in cold water after the boiling' process can cause the shell to 'crack' and ruin what is left of the 'painted' surface...

 

Happy Crabbing! CLD

 

--- Diana Pederson plantaholic@s... wrote:

That scares me Vanessa.  I think one of Don's emails from the past had recommended craft stores!  I know no one there would have any clue about how the shells were or were not treated.  They just buy from some unidentified supplier.  I did boil them for 30 minutes after buying them so maybe I boiled out any bad chemicals.  Let's keep our fingers crossed.  Kathy from FMR emailed me with names and didnt' mention any possible problem.  In fact, she said they were a great find.

 

 

From: Vanessa Pike-Russell  <vanessap@xxx.xxx.xxx>

Date: Fri Nov 19, 1999 11:31am

Subject: Re: Shells

I just had a thought, I once bought some shells from an Arts-n-Crafts store, which were beautiful shells, perfect for hermit crabs. Or at least I thought so, except that they had been coated with chemicals to enhance the shine. Had you asked if they had been treated? Just a thought. I am pretty sure that you will find someone who will know if they have been treated or not. The pet store owner I took mine to said that the shells had been treated and that I was lucky I hadn't offered them to the hermit crabs because the chemicals could have leeched into their bloodstream over time.

I will cross my fingers for you,

Vanessa.

 

Diana Pederson wrote:

... I know I'll be buying a lot of shells for just a collection now that I know Michael's carries them so cheap.  Used to be we had to drive about 4 hours to Seashell city in Northern Michigan (just below the bridge) to find any reasonably priced shells. -- Diana

 

Message 482

From: CRABLOVER DON  <kritterlandusa@xxxxx.xxxx>

Date: Wed Nov 24, 1999 5:25am

Subject: Re: Airstones

 

Diana:

 

I must agree with Jenn on this one...You would probably be defeating the purpose of finally getting your humidity to where you have finally got it. Plus, cords and tubing seem to attract those mischievous little minds into exploring those new territories ... and as Jenn mentioned chasing an escapee ain't fun!

 

Some of my guys have been caught playing 'spiderman' climbing up the sealant in the corners of their tank...so tubing and wires are too much of an invite.

 

Jenn and I know of one 'mutual' crabber friend who went out and bought one of the 'stones'... The guys don't really need any newfangled items... Our friend cannot even 'give away' some of the things she bought for her guys and found they would not work as she thought they might. Start up 'basic needs' can run up costs as is without additional frills.

 

Happy Crabbing!

 

CLD

--- Jennifer Borgesen amborg@a... wrote:

> Diana,

> I would expect an airstone would be too drying ... my mini pump pushes 1200 cc per minute ... that might be a tad windy for the kids ...

> But my biggest concern is that the crabs would see the tubing as a very convenient escape ladder! And from personal experience(s) ... tracking a renegade crab is not high on my list of 'Fun things to do with hermies'!

> I got really lucky both times we had an escapee!

> Right, Don? Chucke and Stu's Big Adventures!

>

> :)Jenn, Head "Warden" of the Motown Crabitat

 

> > Question: Has anyone every used an "airstone" like they use in aquariums of fish to keep the air moving? Would this be too drying for the crabs?

>

 

Message 526

From: CRABLOVER DON  <kritterlandusa@xxxxx.xxxx>

Date: Sat Nov 27, 1999 9:05pm

Subject: Re: Tank Divider

 

Hi Vanessa:

 

We have a couple of the dividers and they work great to set up a 'timeout' or iso/recoup area. For those who are on a budget, may I suggest getting a piece or two of "Plexiglas"(plexiglass) to 'divide' the areas as needed. The 'plexi' really allows for more flexibility and is much cheaper. Most crafts and framing shops carry it and many will cut it to your desired size for a small fee... many time free with purchase... My guys like the 'see thru' affect and I like it because it is easier to keep 'tabs' on my guys.... Even though we have three iso-tanks always ready and available, these 'dividers' can really come handy for emergencies... especially if your regular tank is climate controlled .... no need to warm up that extra iso one. I have a dozen or so various sizes of various lengths and heights... Ready to set up in almost any configuration at any time. A couple tabs of clear book tape works great in doing those special little condos!

 

Good Luck and Happy Crabbing!

 

CLD

--- Vanessa Pike-Russell vanessap@t... wrote:

> Hi all,

>

> I was searching goodpets (www.goodpets.com) and

> by chance happened

> to look in the reptiles section and found this:

>

> Tank Divider:

> Instantly converts one aquarium into two - allows

> unrestricted filtration.

>

> It sounded like a good way to make an iso unit in the original cage. I usually use a cutting board but that isn't always very stable. When you have a moulting crab you want to make sure it is protected. There is an image of the tank divider attached.

 

> The divider comes in SU, M,L, XL and starts at $8.98

> Just a thought,

> Vanessa.

 

Message 557

From: CRABLOVER DON  <kritterlandusa@xxxxx.xxxx>

Date: Tue Nov 30, 1999 3:30am

Subject: RE: Glass Lid/Moonglow Question

 

Christa:

 

That is the exact set up that I use. Remember that the moonglow bulb enhances but is NOT intended to heat the tank. Remember the easiest way to regulate temps is to move your substrate over your heater (Always think about heat rising.....). Less for warmer.... more for lower temps. You WILL melt the plastic strip if you put the bulb over it.... The bulb needs to be over the glass area. Seventy-two degrees at the substrate level? Sounds pretty good... but if you are still concerned, try re-arranging some of the substrate and see what you come up with. I like my insulated back-ups.... it never hurts, but things sound okay to me.... I wouldn't mess around too much with it since your ultimate goal is finding CONSISTENCY in a temp. As you know, I do not turn my 'bulb' or heater off at all...24/7 for both... since testing them out almost three years ago... "Don't mess with it if it ain't broke!"

 

Good Luck and Happy Crabbing!

 

Don

--- "Malik, Christa L." christa.malik@s... wrote:

 

Greetings, all!

 

I've got a [probably easy] question...

Do any of the folks who use glass lids & moonglow bulbs have a problem with enough heat getting through the glass?  

 

As I said in a prior post, when I upgraded to a 30-gallon tank, I bought a glass lid.  It doesn't completely cover the tank, so I used the plastic strip that came with it to seal off the back part.  I set my moonglow bulb on top the glass because I was worried that it might melt the plastic strip if I set it there.  The temp in the crabitat is registering 72 degrees this morning.  That's with both the undertank heater & moonglow on.  Perhaps should make a crab-gloo???

 

Is there a better way I can set-up the moonglow lamp or should I get another undertank heater?  Thanks for any advice!

 

Message 795

From: CRABLOVER DON  <kritterlandusa@xxxxx.xxxx>

Date: Thu Jan 6, 2000 7:06pm

Subject: Re: Glass aquarium tops?

 

Hi Chuck:

 

Don't know how much help this will be, but I have found that the 'glass tank top' is referred to by several different names by the different aquarium makers/ manufacturers. Perfecto calls theirs a 'glass canopy' others refer to them as 'folding glass covers'...

 

I am not sure where you live, but I do know that PetsSuppliesPlus, PetSupermarket and Superpetz all carry these. I went through a similar thing looking for an incandescent 'strip light'... I was repeatedly told that they were not available...not made, not sold separately... but after pointing one out to the clerk, I was told she 'knew' them as 'light bars'... I was then directed to a section of 'hood covers'... Where I found my 'folding glass covers' and 'strip light', among the 'regular hood covers'... If not 'in stock',

 

I have had good 'luck' with these places ordering the 'glass covers' for me. You might try checking for one under a different 'name'... or e-mail me at the following address: kritterlandusa@y... and I will try to see if I can get you some more info about locating one. They are really worth it!

 

Good Luck and Happy Crabbing!

 

CLD

--- Chuck Renaud cjrenaud@s... wrote:

> Hello,

> I'm trying to find a lightless humidity-retaining (sliding glass) top for a standard 10 gallon aquarium. No luck at the local pet stores or online.

> Does anyone have a URL they can pass along?

> TIA,

> Chuck

 

Message 810

From: CRABLOVER DON  <kritterlandusa@xxxxx.xxxx>

Date: Wed Jan 12, 2000 3:41am

Subject: Re: large - extra large shells

 

Christa:

 

     You might try using the term "NATIVE" shell in looking for the "Black Top"... I have run across them under that "name"... Will try to see if I can get a place to order them from... and let you know... CLD

--- "Malik, Christa L." christa.malik@s...

wrote:

> From: "Malik, Christa L."

> christa.malik@s...

>

> Hello again!

>

> I'm wondering where I can find LARGE to EXTRA LARGE black top shells. I

> have three fist-sized crabs and two slightly-smaller-than-fist sized crabs.

> All the larger shells I have are either thin-walled (those brown-and-white

> flattish coin-shaped shells that FMR sells) or are constantly rejected by

> the crabs (pink murex and a black & white shell).

> I've checked out the shells at Petdiscounters.com, but their pics of

> large & extra large shells show shells with more slit-shaped openings, which my

> crabs do not like.

>

> The larger crabs are getting very aggressive about the shell situation,

> since none of them is in a shell that completely fits. If anyone knows

> where I can find extra large black top shells, I'd REALLY appreciate it.

> I'll take any of them, no matter how beat-up or ugly they are. I know Hugo

> has killed a crab for its shell before, and I don't want that to happen

> again! Also, seeing poor Charlie running around naked yesterday really woke

> me up to the situation!

 

Message 833

From: CRABLOVER DON  <kritterlandusa@xxxxx.xxxx>

Date: Sun Jan 16, 2000 6:52am

Subject: Re: (mail order crabs)

 

Jim:

 

Sorry to hear that you lost APOLLO. It is always difficult to lose a little buddy...

 

May I offer this suggestion...

 

Call Kathy at FMR (1-800-535-2722... Mon.-Fri. 9am-5pm Est) or send her an e-mail (fmrpets@g...).

 

Either way, give her your zip code and she can give you the names of stores in your area that FMR sells to... Many of the 'mail order' places that do sell crabs on-line do not ship crabs out when it is so cold. Also, I think you might be happier and more satisfied if you are able to chose your own guys.

 

Personally, I have never ordered any crbs this way, but know of others who have. I have heard very mixed reports and feelings about their satisfaction. Often it takes 'forever' for the crabs to arrive and when they do they were not alive... though the company usually does 'replace' them, you run that chance.

 

Again, some places will not guarantee shipments until Spring... if you wish to wait that long.

 

Good Luck and

 

Happy Crabbing!

 

Don

--- Jimmy Steimel nyjets80@h... wrote:

 

> Hi All,

> Apollo just died today. Now I'm down to 3 crabs. I'm having trouble finding crabs in my area. I am considering ordering crabs online. Has anybody done it before? What are your recommendations?

 

Message 859

From: CRABLOVER DON  <kritterlandusa@xxxxx.xxx>

Date: Thu Jan 20, 2000 7:18pm

Subject: Re: Twins, Triplets and plexiglas.....

 

Vanessa and Christa:

 

We have several sets of twins too! Plus a set of triplets to boot! TWEEDLE DEE--TWEEDLE DUM, ME and (my) SHADOW... SPECK and SPOT... DASH and DOT... are a few of our little 'twin' sets! SAM and SAM TING and HIM TOO are the triplets....(S.T. in honor of Christa's SAM TING) All of our multiples are little hyperactive Ecuadorians.

 

Christa... about the plexiglas thing! You already know that I use plexiglas for setting up my iso areas within a tank...and why I find it better for my molters. It really is easier in the cooler months to assure that the temperature and humidity levels are

 

more consistent, just being able to set aside an area for a molter or two. May I offer a better alternative to a tank divider (which I bought, but seldom used) It is to buy a sheet of clear Plexiglas and have it cut so you can create the area that you want to cordon off. Most craft stores and many frame shops sell it... or you can get a sheet at a place like Home Depot... (they usually sell it to replace glass in windows...and most places will cut it to your specifications) Using some clear bookmakers tape or adhesive tape, you can connect these pieces to 'fit' corners, "free standing" areas... really any number of unlimited configurations...

 

Even though I have several iso tanks set up and ready to go I do prefer to have the guys 'closer' to their buddies during this time. Last week when my little BARNEY started to act odd, I 'fixed' him a corner of one of the main tanks just 'in case'... then I actually saw him shimmy out of his exoskeleton! He was not himself at bath time, but other than that he showed little indication that he was about to molt..

 

However, a few minutes later, right before my eyes, that little guy popped his exo and like you or I might take a turtleneck sweater off... he slid 'out of' that old exo... he wagged his antennae and retreated back into his shell...staying pretty much 'dormant' for a couple of days... I had witnessed a few other molts, but none so quick and easy as he did it! He is up and around some... enjoying 'his' sponge...I had a small piece of sponge that I keep wet for the molters... his 'exo' long gone... his coloring is starting to come back some...at least it's not Mary Kay pink anymore!

 

Several of his buddies sat outside the plexiglas wall looking in on him. As odd as it may sound, these guys seem to sense when one of their own is 'down'... He had a 'buddy' in with him who also decided to 'do the molt thing' that same evening... LITTLE BUD was already 'blocked' off in another tank, but I decided to put he and BARNEY together... I used a mirror on one side (so I could observe them and not disturb them during this time... WORKS great!!!) and the plexiglas on the other sides. It was so cute to see their buddies and well-wishers looking in on their 'downed comrades'! Several of them kept a vigil right there against the 'wall' looking in on their buddies. This was the second molt for "LITTLE BUD", but the first for dear little "BARNEY". ... Both fella did well and are up and around but not quite ready to return to the 'flock.' Am anxious to have both of them out and about with the group real soon! "BARN" is one of the resident characters in his tank... Plus he loves Bath Day... Where he can play with/in the fresh fruit and then 'swim' and play!

 

Have six molters in various stages of molt as I type... What FUN! One of our big boys surprised us with a molt earlier in the week and he is doing great!

 

I am glad he just went on and surprised us... as I still worry when my larger fellas get ready to molt...

 

If you decide on the 'section' thing, let me know and I will be more than happy to explain it further...

 

Happy Crabbing!

 

Don

Message 861

From: CRABLOVER DON  <kritterlandusa@xxxxx.xxx>

Date: Sat Jan 22, 2000 8:21am

Subject: Fwd: Tank Divider/ another source

 

Hi Christa and All:

 

Thought I would re-post this post of Vanessa's from 11/27/99 about the 'dividers'... included is a picture and description of the item for those who may be interested. (Original post and reply from 11/27/99) D.

 

``````````````````````````````````````````````````````

 

Hi Vanessa:

 

We have a couple of the dividers and they work great to set up a 'timeout' or iso/recoup area. For those who are on a budget, may I suggest getting a piece or two of "Plexiglas"(plexiglass) to 'divide' the areas as needed. The 'plexi' really allows for nor flexibility and is much cheaper. Most crafts and framing shops carry it and many will cut it to your desired size for a small fee... many time free with purchase... My guys like the 'see thru' affect and I like it because it is easier to keep 'tabs' on my guys.... Even though we have three iso-tanks always ready and available, these 'dividers' can really come handy for emergencies... especially if your regular tank is climate controlled .... no need to warm up that extra iso one. I have a dozen or so various sizes of various lengths and heights... Ready to set up in almost any configuration at any time. A couple tabs of clear book tape works great in doing those special little condos!

 

Good Luck and Happy Crabbing! CLD

 

===== Kritterlandusa.... Home of Some of the Happiest and Greatest Little Creatures of God.... Gone but far from forgotten:  SKRIPER, DUKE and KING, along with the others waiting at the Rainbow Bridge!

 

Message 525

From: Vanessa Pike-Russell  <vanessap@tpg.com.au>

Date: Sat Nov 27, 1999 8:20pm

Subject: Tank Divider

 

Hi all,

I was searching goodpets (www.goodpets.com) and by chance happened to look in the reptiles section and found this:

Tank Divider:

Instantly converts one aquarium into two - allows unrestricted filtration.

It sounded like a good way to make an iso unit in the original cage. I usually use a cutting board but that isn't always very stable. When you have a moulting crab you want to make sure it is protected. There is an image of the tank divider attached.

The divider comes in SU, M,L, XL and starts at $8.98

Just a thought,

Vanessa.

 

Message

From: CRABLOVER DON  <kritterlandusa@xxxxx.xxx>

Date: Mon Feb 28, 2000 1:06pm

Subject: Re: Tapestry turban shells/some more options!

 

Shell Seekers:

 

Here are several more places that you might check online in a quest for interesting shells. I have no personal experience with any of these places, but have heard positive comments about each of them. I know that Christa has done some shell purchases for her largest guys and some of the sites were passed along via her attempt to find jumbo shells at reasonable prices!

 

Hope these extra sites might help find some better deals... But please be appraised that several of these places are in Australia and Vanessa can vouch that the shipping and handling charges can really be 'out of site' compared to what many of you are used to paying...

 

Enjoy and Happy Crabbing!

 

Don

 

Also, Welcome Back Diana!!!  We have missed you!  Hope all is well in your crabby kingdom!

 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"SHELLS, ETC."~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

http://www.seashellshop.com/

http://www.sharksandshells.com/shells1.htm

http://www.seashellcity.com/seashells/seashells.html

http://www.shellhorizons.com/

http://www.perthshelldistributors.com.au/index.html

http://www.naturesgems.com.au/ http://www.seashellshop.com/hermitcrabs.html 

http://www.mailorderpetsupply.com/worldwidepet/aqsup-gravel-nature-s-ocean.html

--- Diana Pederson plantaholic@s... wrote:

  From: Diana Pederson plantaholic@s...

 

Hi Jim:

 

I've found the shells at only one source where they give the size of the opening rather than the shell diameter.  I have decided to really splurge and buy my 19 guys a selection of different sizes.  Hopefully they will be happy.  Maybe they larger ones will be willing to choose a different shell variety when they outgrow the 1" size opening!

 

Here's the url:  

http://www.seashellcity.com/crabs/crabshells1.html

 

 

Hope this helps you out!

 

Diana Pederson

 

Message 1072

From: CRABLOVER DON  <kritterlandusa@xxxxx.xxx>

Date: Sat Mar 4, 2000 1:34pm

Subject: Re: RE: Preparing Shells for crabs

 

Diana and Jenn:

 

The 'bargain' hunter here... Have done the emery board and 'file' thing. But at a local yard sale, five bucks bought one of those 'battery operated' nail polishing 'kits' that has several 'buffing and filing' adapters.... Figured at five bucks it might be worth it.... It has been... not that you can do any creative 'wonders' or fancy 'polishing' with it, but it does help smooth out some rough edges... I often use a metal nail or 'round' file to do the basic smoothing and use the other to 'finish' up....

 

Might check out some of those yard sales! Don

--- Jennifer Borgesen amborg@a... wrote:

> From: Jennifer Borgesen amborg@a...

>

> > Most of them have roughed up opening edges. Any suggestions on how to smooth over

> the opening a bit before sterilizing them would be appreciated. Am thinking of maybe using a >fingernail fiile or emory board?

>

> Diana ...

>

> I have some shells with pretty nasty looking edges and they don't seem to phase the crabs a bit! I don't think smoothing them with a nailfile, buffing tool or even a fine grit sandpaper would

> hurt ... tho you may want to practice on a broken shell!

>

> Now you've intrigued me I will make it a point to ask my dad about shell polishing ... he's a rockhound and knows alot about cutting/polishing in general. He may have some insight on how you can pretty them up without going into debt for polishing equip!

>

> :)Jenn

 

Message 1165

From: CRABLOVER DON  <kritterlandusa@xxxxx.xxx>

Date: Mon Mar 20, 2000 3:12am

Subject: Re: have a question/ Humidity and Molts

 

Misty:

 

Most definitely! Heat rises therefore it would help boost the humidity... Lights alone, do little to nothing in assisting in getting your humidity level up to a good level... One should never depend on a 'heat' bulb to heat their tank. These bulbs alone, especially if the wattage is higher than the recommended 15 watts, can cause dehydration...

 

Best results are achieved by using the undertank heater IN CONJUNCTION with a 15 watt incandescent 'heat' bulb. Misty, I have been able to maintain constant humidity levels of about 55 % and the temperature range is usually between 72 and 76 degrees F at any given time... I use both the FMR undertank heater and a 15 watt 'moonglo' bulb which is a 'heat' bulb that radiates a little heat, but casts a wonderful glow simulating the moon within the tank.

 

These are on 24/7... This 'light' does not seem to bother the guys and you can watch them go about their nightly romps without disturbing them!

 

There are several brands of these bulbs out there... if you can locate one, I highly recommend the one distributed by ESU (Energy Savers Unlimited) this brand might run slightly higher in cost, but it lasts much longer and the performance is superior to the other brands I have used. They are sold in the reptile section of most pet stores. Look for a Reptile "NIGHTLIGHT", a 15 watt incandescent Nocturnal Black Heat Lamp...... it is in a gray box and states:

 

"Coated with Rare Earth Black Phosphors... to stimulate the natural glow of the moon... " After three years of use, I fully endorse this product along with the FMR brand of heater. Both are excellent products. I do know, the FMR heater can be purchased online at PETDISCOUNTERS.COM. at a pretty good price of $12.99... The do carry a "NIGHT CYCLE" brand moonglo bulb for around $5.99 and some change... This is another highly recommended brand... These bulbs usually run around seven dollars in the retail stores...

 

Good luck and Happy Crabbing!

 

Don

 

Message 1167

From: CRABLOVER DON  <kritterlandusa@xxxxx.xxx>

Date: Mon Mar 20, 2000 3:29am

Subject: Re: light

 

Mark:

 

For what purpose are you going to use this flourescent light for? What type of "light" are you talking about? A 'night light" or regular one?

 

Remember, Hermit Crabs are nocturnal and a regular flourescent light would not be appropriate for their lifestyle. Since the flourescent light does not emit 'heat' as the incandescent bulb does it will be of little use if that was you intention. If you look back in past posts, you will notice that fifteen watts is the highest recommended wattage...

--- Mark Harold McGrath ShadedRaven@h... wrote:  

If I was going to put a light over my crabarium, is 25 watts (fluorescent) too much?

 

Thanks,

 

Mark

 

Message 1183

From: CRABLOVER DON  <kritterlandusa@xxxxx.xxx>

Date: Mon Mar 20, 2000 11:23am

Subject: Re: Sponges and some tips...

 

Misty:

 

As long as the sponge is a NATURAL sponge (also known as a SEA sponge) you would be okay... I have purchased many of my larger sponges from Michael's Crafts Stores...as I have found the prices were cheaper. You do not want to use a man-made sponge as these are not good for the well-being of your guys because of their reputation of harboring bacteria.

 

The 'natural/sea' sponge is great because the guys can munch on it and often there are traces of coral and other 'good' calcium traces left behind from the harvesting... To be safe; however, I do have several that I 'switch out' every other day... to prevent any possible build up of bacteria.

 

I know my 'procedure' might sound time consuming, but it really doesn't take that long to do if you consider that "prevention" <of bacterial growth> outweighs the possibility of suffering the problems associated with bacterial growths. My 'personal' manner of rinsing them out is: I 'soak' them <until the water cools enough to 'handle' them> in some very hot water with a tbls. or so of baking soda... rinse them thoroughly with tap water <until the water runs clear ... squeezing them along the way>. I 'squeeze all the water out and and then place them in a container of dechlorinized water for a 'final' soak...<min of at least ten minutes> Squeeze out as much of the water as possible and allow to air dry until ready to use again... Been using this 'procedure' for several years now and <KNOCK WOOD> haver *never* had any bacterial problems! <KNOCK WOOD, again!!>

--- CZMCGIRL@A... wrote:

Well, I have a glass lid and two sponges and a water dish and wrap around the  tank and still can't get the humidity up past 30.  I have a light that is  meant for hermit crabs over the tank for heat, so I really don't know much  more I can do.  I do have one last question, I was at home depot a month ago  b/c I was repainting my office and notice the big sponges they have for  painting which were really cheap compared to the little ones you buy in the  pet stores and was wondering if that would help w/ the humidity and if so  would it be safe for my hermies.  Thanks for all the suggestions. Misty