Message 336

From: CRABLOVER DON  <kritterlandusa@xxxxx.xxxx>

Date: Mon Nov 8, 1999 6:54pm

Subject: Species/Color

 

Hope this might answer what you were asking... hope it helps... Here in the US, we usually see three main species/groups as far as Land Hermit Crabs go.

 

1) "PP's" or purple pincher crabs are distinguished by a large crab that has a purple to bluish color to it. Their legs are various colors, but we normally see them in reddish and brown tones. They are the most common of the species available here.  The purplish claw sets them aside from the others.  They have beady looking eyes and their legs seem to fold into the shell when retracted.  FMR distributes PP's...

 

2) "Reds" pretty much describes the species. They are deep red to a light orange in color... the Reds have the same characteristics as the pp's... except the red tones are all over including their large claw.

 

3) "E's" or Ecuadorians...don't tell 'em, but they are my favorites! Usually harder to purchase in the US... and require additional attention... These guys come in all colors, tones, shades and they are little 'speed demons'! They are SO VERY ACTIVE and run in all directions at once! The can go as fast backwards as the can frontwards or to either side. "E's" are more easily noted by their larger and elongated (oval shaped) eyes (as opposed to the tiny 'beady' eyes of the previous two) Their legs seemt o cross over their large claw as opposed to the folding of the others.  They seem to prefer very naturalshells and do not usually change shells as often as the others... Some say their large claw is more triangular than the others and that their legs look more muscular.  These are the guys that I have done a vast majority of my personal observations with and I have helped counsel FMR on some of my findings.

 

    With the several hundred species of Land Hermit Crabs, I am sure that there are many, many other

 

sub-groups amongst the three categorical groups I mentioned as being the most common over here. The crabs most seen in Australia are probably closer related to the "E's" (Ecuadorian)in relation to description and special needs.  

 

    The "Reds" and and "PP's" are considered to be more hearty and easier to care for.... the "E's" while they may look stronge, it is difficult to see them through a good molt. I have quite a few of these fellas and through a great deal of worry,observation, research, application of theory, I have been able to see a great deal of success with successful molts within my "E" colonies... a year or so ago people couldn't keep them 'going' very long without death.... now I ammable to see light at the end of the tunnel... and luckily the stigma against these little guys is less negative.  Happy Crabbing and Good Luck....  CLD

 

===== Kritterlandusa.... Home of Some of the Happiest and Greatest Little Creatures of God.... Gone but far from forgotten:  SKRIPER, DUKE and KING, along with the others waiting at the Rainbow Bridge!

 

Message 419

From: CRABLOVER DON  <kritterlandusa@xxxxx.xxxx>

Date: Thu Nov 18, 1999 3:48am

Subject: Fwd: Some answers for Diana

 

 

The crabs the new store I found called "medium" were what other stores we selling as "large".

 

This is often true... there is no universal method that sizes a crab... People use common items such as coins, fruits, nuts, sports balls, etc to refer to sizes.... i.e.: 'smaller than a dime', about the size of a walnut, softball sized...and so on... My two fifty plus range from 'blackeyed pea size to a large fist size'....

 

Would it be possible for you to post some pictures of the different species somewhere. Sometimes it is really hard to identify stuff from just written descriptions.  Might help everyone with questions about what species we have.

 

Diana, if you have trouble with the three main grouping of crabs...REDS, PP's and "E's" from written descriptions your head would be spinning with the two hundred plus some species of hermit crabs. Within these three large groups there are too many variations for you to assume a picture could identify what you have. there are sites out there that you can get an idea of what some of the more exotic crabs might look like, but unless you are a researcher, trying to id a common crab is near ly impossible. that is why we try to refer to the MAIN groups that we see and deal with.... All crabs that are tan are not always "E's... if their large claw is bluish/ purple it is considered a "PP"... "Reds" the simple color... "E's' come in all shades.... but the EYES are their telltale feature.... and the manner in which the cross their legs over their claw... You will just have to trust us on these facts...and ask if you are uncertain... Most picture I have seen of folks crabs are seldom clear enough with close-ups, etc. without getting a more detailed description of the eyes and retraction into a shell....

 

>Seems I've read somewhere that the larger crabs were easier to keep healthy.

 

Not sure what you mean here... the term 'easier to keep healthy'... Good common sense motivated crab care usually dictates the health of crabs... if they are in good shape when you 'adopt' them. Now taking care of various sizes... Not always true...that one size is 'easier'or better than the others... The big guys do not molt as often but their molts are more than often much more stressful than those of the smaller guys....who molt more frequently... Much of this hoopla is personal preference... sort of like sand verus gravel... There are folks who love the settled personalities of the large crabs and others who prefer the antics of the babies. I love my teenie guys as much as my jumbos... older guys are usually/generally more 'laid back' and less active.... and usually have more gentle dispositions... when handled and made accustom to 'human touch'... The little guys are the 'fun' guys on a whole with all the action..

 

Many people are afraid to tackle raising "E's"... but they have been my personal challenge to improve their chances of survival... They do require a little more care and attention to their care, but the results of my work has been well worth it!

 

Hope this helps some.... more about the special needs for your "E's" later....

 

Happy Crabbing! D

 

Message 440

From: CRABLOVER DON  <kritterlandusa@xxxxx.xxxx>

Date: Fri Nov 19, 1999 4:24pm

Subject: re: NOODLE the "E"

 

Hi Melissa:

 

Looks like you did well with identifying your guys... from the pictures it looks like you 'done well'! (Good shots of the 'eyes'..) While those 'oval', oblong eyes are the best indicators of an "E"... another give away is how they retract within their shells.... A PP or Red fold their legs in, around the larger claw as the Ecuadorian will 'cross' his legs over their larger claw... Ecuadorians are also known for being more active/HYPER and their ability to 'run' in all directions (seemingly at the same time)... Some say they look more muscular and their large claw is more 'angular' than the more oval shape of the others.

 

About a third of my brood are "E's" and they are real little speed demons.... and actually seem to be more outgoing than some of the other guys.... they seem to thrive on extra attention. The "E's" seem to love fresh fruits as a treat... to go along with a good basic commercial food diet....

 

In relationship to say a golf ball, or quarter or another universal object... what size is Noodle? How about Speedy? My smallest guys are "E's" the size of a blackeyed pea...to ping-pong sized.... and the Reds and PP's range from the size of a blackeyed pea to fist sized jumbos...

 

Good luck and Happy Crabbing! CLD

--- "Melissa A. Britton" mab43@p... wrote:

 

Hi everyone..

 

I've noticed a little bit of difference between

Noodle's eyes (I know someone said that Ecuadorians have more "oblong" eyes, and I'm not sure what's meant by that)  and Speedy.  Can someone please tell me by looking at them if Noodle is indeed one of these Ecuadorians?

 

Noodle:  

http://home.cwru.edu/~mab43/CuriousNoodle.jpg

 

Speedy:

http://home.cwru.edu/~mab43/CoralBuds.jpg

 

Thank you so much!

Yours, Melissa

 

 

Message 707

From: CRABLOVER DON  <kritterlandusa@xxxxx.xxxx>

Date: Tue Dec 21, 1999 4:03pm

Subject: Re: ID of Crabs

 

I'm doing some research, and was wondering if anyone out there knows the scientific names for Ecuadorians & "Reds".  If anyone out there knows, please write me back!

 

Ecuadorians are: Coenobita Compressus

 

"Reds" from my understanding are 'grouped' with the Coenobita Clypeatus

 

Message 859

From: CRABLOVER DON  <kritterlandusa@xxxxx.xxx>

Date: Thu Jan 20, 2000 7:18pm

Subject: Re: Twins, Triplets and plexiglas.....

 

Vanessa and Christa:

 

We have several sets of twins too! Plus a set of triplets to boot! TWEEDLE DEE--TWEEDLE DUM, ME and (my) SHADOW... SPECK and SPOT... DASH and DOT... are a few of our little 'twin' sets! SAM and SAM TING and HIM TOO are the triplets....(S.T. in honor of Christa's SAM TING) All of our multiples are little hyperactive Ecuadorians.

 

Christa... about the plexiglas thing! You already know that I use plexiglas for setting up my iso areas within a tank...and why I find it better for my molters. It really is easier in the cooler months to assure that the temperature and humidity levels are

 

more consistent, just being able to set aside an area for a molter or two. May I offer a better alternative to a tank divider (which I bought, but seldom used) It is to buy a sheet of clear Plexiglas and have it cut so you can create the area that you want to cordon off. Most craft stores and many frame shops sell it... or you can get a sheet at a place like Home Depot... (they usually sell it to replace glass in windows...and most places will cut it to your specifications) Using some clear bookmakers tape or adhesive tape, you can connect these pieces to 'fit' corners, "free standing" areas... really any number of unlimited configurations...

 

Even though I have several iso tanks set up and ready to go I do prefer to have the guys 'closer' to their buddies during this time. Last week when my little BARNEY started to act odd, I 'fixed' him a corner of one of the main tanks just 'in case'... then I actually saw him shimmy out of his exoskeleton! He was not himself at bath time, but other than that he showed little indication that he was about to molt..

 

However, a few minutes later, right before my eyes, that little guy popped his exo and like you or I might take a turtleneck sweater off... he slid 'out of' that old exo... he wagged his antennae and retreated back into his shell...staying pretty much 'dormant' for a couple of days... I had witnessed a few other molts, but none so quick and easy as he did it! He is up and around some... enjoying 'his' sponge...I had a small piece of sponge that I keep wet for the molters... his 'exo' long gone... his coloring is starting to come back some...at least it's not Mary Kay pink anymore!

 

Several of his buddies sat outside the plexiglas wall looking in on him. As odd as it may sound, these guys seem to sense when one of their own is 'down'... He had a 'buddy' in with him who also decided to 'do the molt thing' that same evening... LITTLE BUD was already 'blocked' off in another tank, but I decided to put he and BARNEY together... I used a mirror on one side (so I could observe them and not disturb them during this time... WORKS great!!!) and the plexiglas on the other sides. It was so cute to see their buddies and well-wishers looking in on their 'downed comrades'! Several of them kept a vigil right there against the 'wall' looking in on their buddies. This was the second molt for "LITTLE BUD", but the first for dear little "BARNEY". ... Both fella did well and are up and around but not quite ready to return to the 'flock.' Am anxious to have both of them out and about with the group real soon! "BARN" is one of the resident characters in his tank... Plus he loves Bath Day... Where he can play with/in the fresh fruit and then 'swim' and play!

 

Have six molters in various stages of molt as I type... What FUN! One of our big boys surprised us with a molt earlier in the week and he is doing great!

 

I am glad he just went on and surprised us... as I still worry when my larger fellas get ready to molt...

 

If you decide on the 'section' thing, let me know and I will be more than happy to explain it further...

 

Happy Crabbing!

 

Don

 

Message 905

From: CRABLOVER DON  <kritterlandusa@xxxxx.xxx>

Date: Thu Feb 3, 2000 10:12am

Subject: THE BOOK....THE BOOK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

 

 

NEWS BULLETIN!

 

HOT OFF THE PRESS!!!!

 

"THE BOOK IS NOW OUT"!!!!

***************************************************************

"HERMIT CRABS: A Complete Pet Owner's Manual"

 

a BARRON book.... by Sue Fox

 

****************************************************************

This is the book that Kathy, my friend "The 'E' Lady" and I contributed to last year. i got my copy in yesterday's mail! It really is a beautiful book.

 

Sixty four pages of good information on just about everything you can think of concerning our little fellas... and LOTS of great color pictures. It is very comprehensive and full of "good stuff'!

 

May I suggest you check out the link below... it is to the Barnes and Nobles site. B & N mispriced this publication stating a $3.50 list price instead of the actual $6.95. They are selling this book for only $2.80. (Amazon.com also sells it, but their price is $5.91, 15% off the $6.95) Why not take advantage of this error... It is exactly the same book. I think you will all be pleased with it.

 

There are a couple of 'tips' from the folks at ZooMed that go astray from 'advice' recommended by FMR, but we can deal with those later! :) (and as Vanessa might say... *grin*)

 

 

Take Care and Happy Crabbing!!  

 

Don

 

Message 915

From: CRABLOVER DON  <kritterlandusa@xxxxx.xxx>

Date: Thu Feb 3, 2000 5:51pm

Subject: Re: Antenna and feelers

 

 

Hi Ken:

 

The longer set of antennae below the eyes are the ones they 'feel' around with...The shorter set are at the outer side of the eyes...and they are the 'sensory organs' that contain nerves sensitive to taste and smell. Hope this helps! Happy Crabbing! CLD

 

 

--- Beach Kid beachkid@b... wrote:

  From: Beach Kid beachkid@b...

 

I tried to explain to a friend my crab's antenna as to why they have two sets of antenna but I couldn't remember what the purposes are!  My crabs have two set of antenna, upper and lower.

 

Does anyone knows what the purpose of the upper and lower antenna are for?  I know it has something to do with touch and smell but that is all I know.

 

 

Thanks for replying.

 

Ken Green

 

  Message 948

From: CRABLOVER DON  <kritterlandusa@xxxxx.xxx>

Date: Wed Feb 16, 2000 9:12am

Subject: Re: Ecuadorians and Salt

 

Rus:

 

You've got it! What you read is my recommendation for the Ecuadorians 'drinking' water.... I 'save' the water only for a week at the most...and make up a 'fresh' batch.

 

Just make sure you use dechlorinized water/treated water from the start. (NO Stresscoat treated water for drinking) Happy Crabbing! CLD

--- Rus Wilson ruswilson@h... wrote:

  From: "Rus Wilson" ruswilson@h...

 

Hi all you crablovers out there...I pose a question to you...

On Vanessa's care page, I am informed that Ecuadorians require salt, and  that the best way to administer it is as follows:

*Drinking water: about 1/8th of a teaspoon of aquarium salt (Instant Ocean  or Doc Fishwell are the best) to a quart of dechloronized water. Then add a teaspoon of this solution to their drinking water.

That's pretty clear. But how long will this quart of water keep? Should I  keep it in the refrigerator? Am I being stupid (perhaps it keeps  indefinitely?) I just don't want to give them stagnant or stale water.

Also, I assume that I add 1 teaspoon of this solution to fresh drinking  water EVERY DAY. Am I correct in assuming this?

 

Thanks!

 

Rus

 

Message 955

From: CRABLOVER DON  <kritterlandusa@xxxxx.xxx>

Date: Thu Feb 17, 2000 1:26pm

Subject: RE: Rus...Questions.... Durn those "E's".....

 

 

Rus:

 

The 'proportions' that you are using are fine. The 'basic' solution is already fairly 'weak' and the further breakdown is just about right for that 'trace' amount of 'saline' needed. The Brita filtered water is fine... and true Stresscoat for bathing and misting only!

 

Welcome to the world with the "E's" and their special talents of the unexpected! They really are masters of the ability to scale that silicon! Great climbers! Have you seem them try to go in all directions at the same time? As 'speedy' as they are they can go in 'reverse' as fast as they go 'forward' ... or sideways! You are in for a treat with these fascinating little guys! Today is bath day at Kritterland and all my "E's" are at their 'peak' of activity!!!! They can get quite 'vocal' at this time... so we had lots of noise going on while they sampled all the fresh fruit offerings... kiwi, grapes, papaya, apple, pear, mango, strawberries, avocado, plum, banana and freshly grated coconut was on the menu today!

 

They are super hyper right now playing around in their various tanks...still 'vocal' and 'scampering' about... God love 'em! Rus, I, too, love ALL my guys....but those little "E's"... there is something 'special' about them!

 

Happy Crabbing and ENJOY!!!!

 

CLD

 

Message 983

From: CRABLOVER DON  <kritterlandusa@xxxxx.xxx>

Date: Thu Feb 24, 2000 5:47pm

Subject: Re: Check out Sherman's Lagoon and MILO, too!

 

Tom:

 

Check out "MILO" at this address:

 

http://www.comicstrips-milo.com

 

He, too, is a cartoon character of his own fame.... and his creator, Daniel Sean Kaye, is a friend of Vanessa's...

--- rbound55@a... wrote:

<A HREF="http://www.slagoon.com/charactr/charactr.html">Click here:  Sherman's Lagoon Comic Strip</A>  or: http://www.slagoon.com/charactr/charactr.html  

Not sure if links are accepted through the list - but I just did research on  the comic strip - seems like it's been around since 92!    Here's a nice pic of the cast - The hermit crab's name is

Hawthorne.....

Tom!

 

Message 1039

From: CRABLOVER DON  <kritterlandusa@xxxxx.xxx>

Date: Wed Mar 1, 2000 8:56am

Subject: Re: Digest Number 142/ Grooming

 

Rus:

 

In the book HERMIT CRABS A Complete Pet Owner's Manual by Sue Fox she describes the grooming process of our little guys in a 'behavior' section. This is the latest book out on crab care and well worth obtaining! She also addresses the Ecuadorians which has previously not been done in care books. I do not know if it is in the 'stores' yet, but it is being sold on-line at Amazon.com and Barnes and Nobles for under the $6.95 shelf price... Something like $5.56 plus s/h. Enjoy those "E's"! Happy Crabbing! CLD

--- Rus Wilson ruswilson@h... wrote:

 

Salutations from Paco and Humphrey, our two "E" crabs...I noticed Humphrey  doing something interesting, and I thought I'd report it and ask if anyone  else could tell me what I'm witnessing. After his daily misting, Humphrey  was crawling about on my hand, and began to "clean" his legs. He would  maneover one leg to right under his maxillipeds, and then stroke the last  joint or so of the leg lengthwise, towards the terminal "spike," then switch  to another leg. He also did the same with his chelipeds. He continued to do  this for quite some time. What was he doing? Just cleaning his legs?  Distributing some of that oil that they secrete to keep their exo shiny?  Just trying to get my attention?

 

 

Rus

 

Message 1141

From: CRABLOVER DON  <kritterlandusa@xxxxx.xxx>

Date: Fri Mar 17, 2000 12:19pm

Subject: Clearing up some MYTHS.....MYTH #1...... DEATH SENTENCES

 

Okay, let's do a little 'BASIC' hermie FACT application... starting with the biggest MYTH out there... the death sentence due to the loss of a claw (or even two)... I hope you won't mention this to any of my guys... as they can prove you wrong...VERY QUICKLY!!

 

Some guys may be a little 'challenged' at first, but they soon adapt to the situation and do quite nicely until that missing appendage is regenerated!

 

Hermit Crabs CAN live quite well missing one or even both of their "claws'.

 

Why do I know this?

 

Because I have a dozen or more fellas with these 'challenges' LIVING among my two hundred plus crabs.

 

The fact is these claws do have certain functions... the larger (left)'claw' is used basically for defense and climbing, while the smaller (right) one is used for eating and climbing. At first i did 'handfeed' some of the guys missing both claws, but these guys are amazing in finding alternative ways to eat and drink... IF the crab IS HEALTHY otherwise they usually survive!

 

It is easy to pass death off on the fact that you are not sure what the *real* problem is! If a crab starts losing any appendage, there is usually a problem... in most cases it is because of a stress related factor. These reasons are usually not from 'attacks' as I hear so often, but because of under- lying problems such as bacterial growths <from too much dampness in the tank/wet substrate>; poor control of temperature and humidity levels <fluctuating temperature levels...poor control of humidity levels>; dehydration <lack of water>; poor 'housekeeping' <allowing wastes to 'build up', food to spoil, 'mite' infestations>; exposure to odors, housekeeping sprays, 'fumes'<all things that can jeopardize their respiratory systems>; a molt gone bad...etc.

 

What is necessary, to prevent further problems/ deaths, is to locate and DETERMINE what PROBLEM is causing and creating this stress. Ninety-nine percent of the time there is an underlying cause... At the first sign of a crab losing a leg or claw, IMMEDIATE attention should be paid to the situation and to be as prompt as possible in seeking EXPERT advice!

 

Kathy at FMR is the best person I know who can usually help determine the 'soource' of your problem, you can talk to her 'one on one' and through a few simple questions and answers she can usually assist you and make the necessary recommendations. Just use good 'common sense' and seek assistance BEFORE the situation gets out of hand! ... FMR has a 'hotline' toll-free number <during business hours

 

ONLY...Mon-Fri, 9am-5pm Eastern> for those of you living in the US... <1-800-535-2722>; a website at: fmrpets.com and an email address fmrpets@gte.net

 

They do this as a courtesy and special service to us and are more than happy to assist you. You have many 'seasoned crabbers out here who are willing to help if they can if you cannot reach FMR. Many deaths can be avoided, but only IF the underlying factors can be corrected and resolved. It is often better to correct the situation and get things 'under control, before bringing any new little ones into a problem situation...

 

From some personal experiences, observations and a great deal of experience in trying to help others; but, more so from the bottom of my heart... take a few minutes and stop, reason and think! It really makes for much Happier Crabbing for all!

 

Happy Crabbing!

 

Don

 

P.S.:  I urge each of you crabbers old or new to think about investing in a good crab care book... there are a few better than others, many are very 'out of date' but have some good information... One recently published one I highly recommend is: HERMIT CRABS: A Complete Pet Owner's Manual...a "Barron book"... written by Sue Fox.  Both Amazon.com and Barnes and Nobles offer a discount on online orders... in the store it costs around $6.95.  Sue has some great information in there plus the pixs are fantastic!

 

Message 1185

From: CRABLOVER DON  <kritterlandusa@xxxxx.xxx>

Date: Mon Mar 20, 2000 2:15pm

Subject: Re: crab care with stores/ SOAPBOX

 

Trena:

 

    Though it may be frustrating , keep on them!  Go to the FMR Website and print out both the care sheet AND the care sheet for retail stores. It seems that PETSMART is one of those ENTIRE chains that turns a deaf ear... but if all else fails... try doing this...

 

    A couple of years ago another friend and I went after a store in "Boca'... we wrote letters to the headquarters and the Better Business Bureau...they listened and improved... But locally, I found that our SUPERPETZ was no better! The conditions were horrible ...crabs in cedar shavings, no water.. the same feeding dishes used for their rabbits and hamsters..  I stopped dead in my tracks and demanded to see a store manager. After talking til I was blue in my face, I was informed that those were the 'guidelines' from the 'home office'... and they were not allowed to use 'anything' not 'ok'd' by the 'home office'... yadda, yadda...  

 

   I offered to  purchased some 'proper substrate', cuttlebone and choya wood for the guys <Since I was told they could not use anything that the 'home office' didn't 'okay'..!!> After he saw I 'meant business' be did listen and allow me to 'supervise' a new set up...  I gave them some FMR Food and Treat... plus care sheets.  After  helping set-up the proper environment... I offered to do some 'inservice 'training' with their employees...You name it! i left my name and number incase they had any questions... I learned that they had a 'new order' of crabs due in at anytime... I took the eight fellas that were living in the poor conditions... We left that store feeling much better... HOWEVER, the following week I was aghast to return that my 'manager friend' had abandoned ship and was no longer there and my 'crab environment' was housing Scorpions!  The poor hermies were in a 'wire' cage... luckily there were only a dozen guys... who came home with me... I knew I was up against a 'brick wall" UNTIL... I solicited the help of my neighbor <who was an associate editor of one of our larger newspapers> and a friend <the'consumer advocate' at a local news station> to assist me in a 'threat' to make the less than acceptable conditions PUBLIC knowledge. It only took one phone call to the store and one to the 'headquarters' and things quickly changed as far as the care they gave ALL their animals.  They didn't want to be in the 'news' for at all  It is a shame such drastic actions have to take place, but sometimes there are no other alternatives.  

 

    I have found that there is so much 'turn around' in employees at most pet stores that many are not

 

employed there long enough to give a d***... most places do not pay well and have little or no benefits for the hourly employees... so the caliber of hiree is probably not the best in the first place. The sad thing is the owners and managers should at least have a knowledgeable BACKGROUND in pet care for ALL animals and if need be held accountable for the such!  mom and Pop stores seem to be better...

 

    I am very lucky to have a PetSuppliesPlus store here who has a very knowledgeable owner/manager and a terrific person 'overseeing' the fish and Hermit Crabs division! They know how to treat their crabs with love and dignity and there set-up would rival most home environments!  Jason keeps his store spotless and Darlene does a fantastic job with the crabs... Darlene is my crab sitter when I have to be away and does not hesitate to call if she has a problem with any of their guys... So luckily there are a few exceptions out there!  Thumbs up to Jason Yates (a true "hands on" franchise owner) and Darlene Parker (Hermie Momma) for their continuous efforts to see that our guys are treated in the best possible manner possible!  If ever in Birmingham, Alabama stop by PSP (Hoover location) and stop in an tell the "HI"...and thanks! Plus they carry  everything you need for proper crab care.. if they don't have it on the shelves, they will try to locate it for you! Mom and Pop service from a chain!

 

Maybe one of these days the people at PETSMART will realize that our Little Creatures of God are

 

truly worthy of proper care... They are unable to ask for their own 'rights' and needs, but hopefully with continuous 'badgering', offers to educate, and strong perseverance we can 'speak' for our buddies.  Happy Crabbing and Hope for Better Conditions for our Great Little Creatures of God! Don

 

--- almo 2nd email tbean@a... wrote:

 

Hello,

 

Does anyone have some suggestions for broaching the subject of how to care for crabs to pet store workers? I was in Petsmart in Minneapolis yesterday (visting the city), and they didn't have enough water for the crabs, no lid, a bright light on them, and live crickets in the tank.  What's new, huh? I tried to tell the employee that they needed more water, and she said they didn't need water! WOW. I told her that I have 8 at home, and yes, they do need water b/c of their gills.  She didn't say anything and didn't get the water either.  I never know how to inform people in the least threatening way.  It is so easy to get defensive when people criticize you or your store (even when the criticizer tries to be kind about it).  Is there some way to make it easier to hear our very reasonable suggestions and advice on crab care? Or does Petsmart just refuse to listen?? I wish pet stores knew more about caring for hermit crabs.  There is so much misinformation and downright abuse, that it really makes me ill.  I mean, think of all the crabs that die b/c of human ignorance and stupidity. Sorry for ranting...

 

Trena

 

Message 1212

From: CRABLOVER DON  <kritterlandusa@xxxxx.xxx>

Date: Wed Mar 22, 2000 3:20pm

Subject: Re: "New" member ? Check out this idea...

 

Welcome Annie:

 

You wrote: " Where did you all get your crabs?  I definitely do NOT want to buy anything living from the major chain stores. ....I'm thinking of ordering from the Crabby Crab ...but are they a good reputable source? ....I have no clue of any areas around here that sell crabs (that also take good care of them)."

 

  Sounds like you are off to a great start in the quest of crabbing!  Thought I'd offer you a little suggestion...

 

   Luckily, all the chain stores out there are not as bad as PETSMART!  FMR sells directly to many chains, and of course to area distributors around the country. If you will e-mail Kathy at FMR and give her your zip code, she will be able to send you the names of stores in your area (or the closest store near you) that sells their crabs and or supplies. The only problem is some stores buy crabs from several sources... so there is a possibility that all the crabs did not originate from the 'halls of FMR"... Actually, FMR does sell to the Crabby Crab Company... but there is that 'special something' if you do and can 'choose' your own...

 

   Crabby Crab has an okay reputation... some people sing their praises... but many have reported that the crabs they ordered were received dead... not always the fault of CC but due to the manner in which they were sent... not everyone is willing to pay the extra for an overnight delivery and we have all experienced some of the problems with the U S Postal Service.  If you could locate a place near by, I think it might be a more rewarding experience  for you to be able to pick and choose your own little guys...

 

   You seemed to have done your 'homework' concerning your future pets, and you know what to look for in picking a good healthy crab or three or four... Plus, you can be 'nosey' and report back as to the conditions and care of the petstore!  Whip out an FMR care sheet and let them know you are prepared! If you haven't done so yet, check out the FMR website at: www.fmrpets.com  You and 'print out' both the care sheet for retailers and the one for crab owners. Good luck... Don

 

Message 1227

From: CRABLOVER DON  <kritterlandusa@xxxxx.xxx>

Date: Sun Mar 26, 2000 3:14pm

Subject: Re: Hermies going on vacation? & FMR ##

 

Good Luck Diana!

 

My guys and I have been apart several times... while I was hospitalized and when visiting my Mother in Pittsburgh... My "kids" have a great extended family who try to spoil them in my absence! A friend from years past is their daily caretaker checking in on them a couple of times a day... watering and feeding them... taking them out for a little play! I lucked up by getting another friend who also happens to be in charge of the fish/hermit crab department at our PetsSuppliesPlus store... She is the'caretaker' in charge of the weekly baths and general check ups...

 

Both these folks work together to make sure the guys are spoiled rotten in my absence!

 

As much as the guys got spoiled, they forgave me and seemed quite excited by my return! I had a forty five day hospital stay a couple of years ago and really missed my buddies... with the 'aid/knowledge' of one of my nurses, several guys were smuggled in to visit me! Those visits always brightened my day!

 

These guys will miss you... but will truly be excited by your return home... Hope the procedure goes well and you will be up and dancin' real soon! Trust me!

 

All twenty five of your little ones will be 'dancin' in honor of your return... they don't forget who the 'real' caretaker is...!

 

Tell the 'sitters' FMR is only a phone call away... that is Monday thru Friday from 9 a.m. to 5 p. m. eastern time... ask for Kathy at: 1-800-535-2722!

 

Best of luck and Happy Crabbing!

 

Don

--- Diana Pederson plantaholic@s... wrote:

> Hi:

>

> My hermies (now numbering 25) have petitioned me for a week's vacation to their aunt's house. Since I have agreed to this arrangement, I need the number of FMR just in case their cousins need to confer with a professional. The hermies may be visiting as long as a week or more depending on how well behaved they are.

> NOW for the rest of the story!

> I am having my right knee replaced on Monday. This is a total replacment of both the knee cap and the joint

> itself. After arthroscoopic surgery revealed I had a complete hole through the knee (the weight bearing portion is totally gone and replaced by scar tissue) and little knee cap left, there really wasn't much other choice. Thus severe pain for a while appears to be the only way to get out of chronic pain.

> My best wishes to all the crabs. Do yours ever take vacationas apart from you!

 

Message 1263

From: CRABLOVER DON  <kritterlandusa@xxxxx.xxx>

Date: Fri Mar 31, 2000 12:40pm

Subject: Re: Moving crabs to Britain

 

 

Trena:

 

I suspect you might be correct about taking them into the UK. I know they have very strict quarantine rules and regulations for 'normal' household pets like cats and dogs. You might try checking now! Whereas a government agency would be the best source of accurate information... you might try calling an airlines to just 'inquire'... We do or did have a couple of folks from the U K that might know more. Kathy at FMR may know of some of the regulations in regard to 'live' animal quarentines...

 

If the trip were not so long and some of your guys so big, I'd recommend smuggling 'em... :) D

 

--- almo 2nd email tbean@a... wrote:

  Hello, I may be moving to Britain (from the U.S.) in about

6-9 months.  Does anybody know what the customs policies would be for bringing my little babies with me? I have a sneaking suspicion that they won't allow them into the country.:(

Trena