Pari or Garen, Happy to have your explanations. On Turkishness of Parzer Haykzis. I totally agree that they feel turk, they Think and are the most extremist, and for relatively simple reason: When they changed faith, they did that headed by their local Vartabeds, who became Mollas... They were totally rejected by the rest of the nation, arround them, and hated...., They were seen with big suspicion by the Turkish Valis, and their ottoman garnisons, so these persons rejected by the 'christian Armenians', had no choice but to be extremist among the extremist before the vali....., to proove their 'Turkishness'. Well if you look back, we have a lot of cases, where thoose extremist Turks, were still 'Armenian' sectretly, and remembering their roots during 1915,....and secretly they helped as much as possible..... We have even the case of a very High ranking Turkish general, who keeped secret from his 3 daughters their identity, and when realised he could do no more to save Armenian villagers in Dourouperan, sent a letter to the local commander of the Fedayis, asking him 'Neroghoutioun/ mercy', as a soldier and as an Armenian (while his family, province converted more than 100 years before) ( this was mentioned as rare case, since generally, the Aratchnort /bishop was considered as chief of the Nation , because of the unicity between church and national identity, while this General was from an opposite mind, saying that he accepted islam, and he was for keeping his faith, but neverheless, he considered to be Armenian, similar to the Adjars, who are muslim georgians essentially), and hopeless, desperate before all the suffering his army did, went home, shot his 3 daughters, since he refused to imagine them married to Turks, and then commited suicide with his wife..... this to tell you, the terror, and troma in thoose families, where the child ignores what the father, mother thinks..... You have a lot of cases, where the mother kept the secret, and talked after the death of the 'father' = butcher=murderer=kidnapper=turk, and asking the children to hide from the Grand Children...., in my direct family, there is 3 'young girls left', from my Mother's side, and 5 'from my fathers side' and 2 boys 'possibly' (taken by the turkish villagers, under 4, but we do not have confirmation on their fate), ..... Similarly and thanks to a huge sum of hasards, one day a 'turk' found my neighbors Gran Ma's adress, and came to see her, as the last wish of his Grandma....., because he was informed by her, on her 'death bed' that she was the sister of my friends Grand ma We were astonished to discover, ( first his face, since he was literally the twin of his little cousin in Boston), that he 'had' a huge 'family' somewhere in cental Anatolia, and then Ankara, etc...., all in all, 36 at that date, and among the 36, only few knew their roots, and the mother of my neighbor's 'cousin', in front of us, still ignored who she was, because her diying mother was not sure she could support the truth and keep silent, and preferred to 'pass' the key to her favorite grand Son....... Virtually in each case, the fate is a specific horror story, all in 'turkish' silence..... I'm not expanding, since you have simulatenously various combinations, when such 2 families, ignoring the 'secret face' of the latter, marry each other, each parent keeping the horrific secret from the other,.... i know one such case, in Germany, where the family lives now for 3 decades, originally from Dersim and Svaz regions, where the father and the mother of the couple, discovered with huge terror, 2 decades after their marriage, that the other one was the fruit of raped(A)/murderer(T) couple....., and since they were still living within a Turkish getto in Germany, were afraid to tell the truth to their 5 sons and 3 daughters...., let alone the grand children. The children now all parents with an army of gran childs, are extremists among the extremists, perfect Bozgurts, and one of the sons, is widly known to be an informater of the turkish police, among his Turkish community, in Germany.....!!! ( imagine the horror, the perfect Nazi turk, ready to slaughter eny 'ermeni Gyavoure', while having 50% Gyavoure blood, grand son of 2 daily raped Ermeni Gyavoure......, and he will discover the truth at the death of his father, who swear to his mother, that at his death, he will 'pass the key') The same parents, while alone, are in a mental neightmare, easy to imagine, but still are too terrorised to say the truth to their descendance, while living in democratic Germany!!!!......., always silent, teers in eyes, but silent......, keeping a page from a 'sourp' kirk, as talisman, in a corner of the house, while in the saloon, the children are regretting that their parents did not manage to exterminate thoose 'shameless Armenians', who massacred their poor, muslim encestors, usurpating their encestral Qarabakhe and Gjojcha. (sevan ).... Now you have such things, where the one side is Armenian, the other Greek, but 'made Turk'; or Armenian/Assyrian..... You have even a more fantastic case. I saw this in Artzakh. My close friend, originally from the Ergir, was called 'srochny/srochny' home. I went with him, just to be astonished!!! When arriving in his village, I saw my friend twice, once 'roulin', just next of me, once in front of me!!!! Well, it turned out that our gest was from the other side of the Arax, and decided to discover his cousins, on this side, via a complicated itinerary passing via Europe, etc..... Of corse we were all amazed, and stiil very suspicious, because of the usual 'spy' paranoîa.... Untill he enumerated some family details, back 150 years old, village quarells, back 150 years old, that no one out of the family could have known...., but the most fantastic of all this was, that he was talking to us with their district's specific accent, in fluent Armenian, Western Armenian, using 'Kh' in place of 'H', ('Khay yem'), as was the case in their Ergir province!!!! No one uses this, since in Armenia, now all the survivors use litterery Yerevan Arevelehayeren!!! Do you realise this, a man coming out from the past, as if time was stopped. An hour later, they were discussing village 'news' as if they were talking from the village near Garni....! Oficially they were 'Turks', did all as Turks ......, while once winter was closing roads, they changed their 'shirts', for some months....., and this from the day, when the village was massacred in 1917, and one part decided to migrate, while the other accepted 'Turkicity'....., useless to say, what his feelings were, when he discovered Chouchi, his endless joy, his hate of the Turks, in Agdam...., and his wish, in the ruined church of Vankassar.....