JF: I thought you were fond of firing people in your band.

JL: Only the rubbish. And theres none of that this time.

JF: Oh thats good.

JL: Bye bye, rubbish! If you're out there listening!

JF: Whats it like back stage at a PiL gig?

JL: Really miserable.

BS: Yeah. Very quiet. Its like a monastary. We're monks, one and all.

JF: No entourages?

BS: I've hoped not, no. As few people as possible.

JF: And how much material is just PiL material in the set? Excuse me songs...

JL: (sigh) Is that a sly way of saying do we do any Pistol numbers? We have been known to from time to time.

BS: Yeah. Drop in a few there. You know a couple of bombs here and there.

JL: Theres a few surprises in this set. Its very varied.

JF: Very varied?

JL: Yes.

JF: Did you have a time when you would not put Sex Pistols songs in the set on purpose?

JL: Yes. We had a time zone when we would not do that.

JF: Speaking of Time Zone, Thats one of the most popular dance records on the west coast of all time. Are you aware of that?

JL: No, I'm not. Hardly surprising though. Really, humbly speaking here!

JF: You can put it on and even people over 21 will dance.

JL: Well, now that does surprise me! See, theres more to life than the Grateful Dead, boys and girls!

JF: What was it like getting connected with Afrika Bambaataa?

JL: Afrika? He's alright. I mean, he wanted to do it. He also did a record with James Brown which I remember him particularly telling me that I was the best fun he had ever been with in the studio.

JF: That was shortly before his collaboration with James Brown?

JL: After.

JF: Well thats quite flattering!

JL: Yeah, he was probably lying but, you know, these things in ease!

JF: Well, you know what they do on dance singles? They put an accappella track down. You know what that is? Thats when they run the same track without the music. And theres a track with James Brown and Afrika Bambaataa this is absolutely hysterical! Everyones gotta love it! Hoo-lo! Get back! Stuff like that.

JL: Do you take drugs? Theres your question! Doesn't require an answer. No comment.

JF: Sure it does. No, I used to. And found that I wasn't getting much done.

JL: What? Para-seasonal? Yeah, me too.

JF: Para-seasonal?

JL: Till they started tampering with it!

JF: I want to know what it was like when that song came together in the studio. Did you write it? Did you do a demo of it and then come in and do it?

JL: Well, we had a few lyrics. We went in, put a drum beat down on the machine and did the whole thing in about 4 1/2 hours. It was very, very quick.

BS: As the best records often are.

JL: They say you can't rush talent but you can!

BS: You have to know what you are doing.

JF: Lots of times you have to have pressure as an added stimulant.

JL: I would say it would be essential, yes. Otherwise you get fat and lazy about what you are doing and you lose yourself.
                                                                             
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