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Dot1web Investigated by FBI
guest
Jan-8-03 10:06
http://www.tahoebonanza.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?Site=TB&Date=20030108&Category=NEWS&ArtNo=301080101&Ref=AR
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Your trusted leader!
guest
Jan-8-03 10:29
Where are all the BOB followers comments now? Let me guess he got another raw deal right? I guess some people just don't see the "light" until the truck is about to run them over!

When the F.B.I. starts snooping around I hope knowbody at Dot1Web has a F.B.I. record, BOB will be sending all the blame their way!

I have one suggest for all you BOB followers out there, RUN like hell. When BOB goes down "and he will" he is going to be pointing fingers fast than a Elivis sighting in Las Vegas.
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.....
investor 1
Jan-9-03 13:11
no, some of us just have a life where we can't sit on this board ALL day long....
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Investor 1 (Guy With a Life)
Guest
Jan-9-03 13:33
It sure seems like you sit here all day long, investor 1.

Why such hatred for people speaking their mind about their experiences??? What makes you so much better than these people?? Have you not realized you got burned yourself? Unless, you are of course, Mr. Demaio himself???? Or the couple lackies still hanging onto Demaio's coat tails?

Why do you think Mr. Demaio is such a great person?? Please explain, how he made such a positive impression on you, and how he changed your life for the better.
Do you not do your own research? How can you discount actual documentation??? Is he telling you, "It was him, and her, and well, he did that, not me". "It was their fault", "All those judgements are a mistake in the court filings, I'm trying to clear it up", "It was a guy named De Maio, not Demaio" Please, Get Real, Bob uses De Maio, as well...LOL

Inquiring Minds Would Really Like to Know, Investor 1

Hmmm, I wonder........Could it Be????....Nah
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hmmmm
guest
Jan-9-03 13:42
Investor 1 = first guy to invest? wouldn't that be demaio?
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one question
guest
Jan-8-03 12:29
so tell me, if this guy has such a great case, why did he have to go thru ALL these agencies to get anywhere? why would the SHERIFF dept refer him to the fbi?? they should have been able to handle it..... could it be because demaio does NOT have the cd's??

Green said he contacted the
SEC,
the Nevada Lt. Governor's office,
the State Attorney General's office, and
Washoe County authorities before arriving at the FBI.

"I've done everything possible to put as much heat as possible on this guy," Green said. "It's now a federal matter."

Michelle Youngs, the Washoe County Sheriff's Office spokeswoman, verified that Green Solutions had contacted the office's property and fraud division, which referred the matter to the local FBI office.

The FBI would neither confirm nor deny that the matter was under investigation
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re:one question
clillin
Jan-8-03 14:46
Hey moron your topic said "one question" not three

so tell me, if this guy has such a great case, why did he have to go thru ALL these agencies to get anywhere?(question1) why would the SHERIFF dept refer him to the fbi??(question2) they should have been able to handle it..... could it be because demaio does NOT have the cd's?? (question3)

This guy must do BOBS books Lets see we have $100,000 well in our book thats equal to $300,000, sure we have enough to cover payrole now.....
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Answer to your question
GUEST
Jan-8-03 12:42
Because MORON, this is actually a Federal Matter, BANK FRAUD, amongst other types of fraudulent activities. The check amount was for over $200,000.00. And this man seems to have a habitual past of rubber checks, and skipping out on judgements........Duh.....

That is why the FBI is investigating him, and I believe that is why the local sherriff's office referred Mr. Green to the FBI. The reason why they referred Mr. Green to the FBI, is because he does have a GOOD CASE against these individuals.

And I am sure that it is not the only other agency investigating him at this time. Btw, these other agencies may be investigated Mr. Demaio and clan right now :)

Good Luck;)
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Federal jurisdiction
M & M
Jan-8-03 13:04
Right on. It is actually a federal matter for several reasons: bank fraud invokes federal jurisdiction; also the check went over state lines. Since the victim in this case is in Florida, it makes sense that the sheriff would refer this to the FBI rather than taking it on locally.

Not to get too down on the local polizia, but... the local law enforcement establishment is much better suited to bust and prosecute 19 year olds possessing a dime bag than going after slick Bobby, who spends investor money to hide behind lawyers. Cost benefit analysis, baby.

Slip back to reality
Oops, there goes gravit.

M & M
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Yea, it the small town atmosphere with small . .
vrrrooom-vrrrroom
Jan-9-03 09:06
Yea, it the small town atmosphere with small town influenses.
Butthead Bob is a big supporter of the local legal beagles. The *Local* State Labor Commission too.

Historically, they sweep Dirt1web's trash under the carpet for another round next season. He'll be back with a new scam. He can't stop himself, and in Nevada no one else will either.

It's called the Nevada corporate asset protection game. Nevada provides the highest level of corporate protection in the country. It's the second largest industry in the state, after gambling. You walk into court with a balance sheet of zero value, and voila! The corporation has no assets and the creditors divy that up. Pennies on the dollar.

Thanks for the Lamborghini folks!!
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Gravity
M & M
Jan-8-03 13:05
Oops... gravity got hold of the last letter.

Slip back to reality,
Oops, there goes gravitY

M & M
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because
guest
Jan-8-03 12:38
the local sheriff's jurisdiction doesn't include Broward County FLA. Sine it involves interstate commerce, then it belongs in the FBI's caseload, DUH
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loooooossssssseeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrr!
GuEsT
Jan-8-03 10:47
Who's the looser now Bob DeMaio?, Who's the looser now!
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This is great! :)
fubar4u.com
Jan-8-03 13:43
laughing my f'n ass off!
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Well Big Golly Geeze
guest 99
Jan-8-03 01:11
It is amazing to me how people will try to justify their mistakes. This whole damn thing makes no sense at all. If you knew a damn thing about business or the stock market you wouldn't be throwing your money away like this. You are exactly the type of people that these Bobs go after and it all boils down to greed on his part and yours. I'm going to be rich, I'm going to retire, I'm gonna have a $250,000 little tini car like Bobs, ya look at me and I'm gonna be in your face about it too. Well, after reading through all this crap I find it hard to feel sorry for you suckers. You better take the advice of the people on this forum that are trying to help you and do something with it. If you want to get rich, make it the right way, the honorable way, and probably the hard way like a lot of us have.
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Whoa, what a pessimist...
guest
Jan-8-03 02:53
I thought this was a forum, not a pess-fest! Hard-working people have dreams, and NO ONE would argue that trying to make a buck on an INVESTMENT is dishonorable, as you suggest. INVESTMENTS are what keep the economy going, as well as spending money on investments (basic econ theory, supply-side, demand-side theories). Fraudsters abuse the basic trust involved in making an investment, in that there is never a chance to regain ANY of your investment, not even from the get-go. I was taken. Never once did I think "I'm going to get rich, I'm going to retire". I thought I got in on the ground floor of a good fledgling investment, and yes, I got talked into something I wish I hadn't done - I invested MY MONEY in the original Drive4u.com, that I had EARNED, and NOT from DeMaio, and (quite a bit of it). Shame on you for insinuating that an investor in this company didn't make their money "the right way, the honorable way", or that all of us thought we would get rich. Hoping for a brighter future, getting burned, then getting scorned by a venom-spitting forked-tongued know-it-all like you, is simply something that NO ONE should be subjected to. I hope the next time someone takes advantage of YOUR beliefs and choices, that you will feel the judgement you just passed on over 1,000 undeserving investors. As for those who still believe in almighty BOB, sometimes it is just too hard to believe that someone who promised so much is delivering so little - so take it easy and lay off. Don't you think I already know what a poor choice I made? Your pessimism and meanness don't make it any easier to swallow - crawl back to your hole and stay off a message board that you know nothing about, because it is painfully obvious you've never met the almighty BOB, and it is even more obvoius you've never met one of the scammed investors face to face. And if you have, then double shame on you for your heartless remarks. Just because some are woefull or regretfull about their choices, or are angry (and damn it, rightfully so), does not mean that we support BOB. Open your mind and grab some intelligence.
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well.....
investor 1
Jan-8-03 12:34
as i said before, investments should ONLY be made with money you can afford to lose.....that goes for investing in ANYTHING......
and as someone above pointed, the company IS still running - hold onto hope until otherwise
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Exploiting Faith
Dennis Miller
Jan-8-03 13:33
Boy, what ever happened to the separation of church and hate? Everybody take it easy. I'm pretty sure God's registered as an independent.
Now I don't want to get off on a rant here, but it's amazing how, in an election year, God's name gets thrown around like the drunken dwarf at a biker rally. Personally, when I try to picture what God looks like, I always see some guy wearing a white robe and frantically working a huge panel of switches and knobs while answering prayers like a hopped-up Larry King taking phone calls. Columbia, South Carolina, go ahead--how many times do I have to tell you, take that Goddamn flag down. Now!

Every religion has its own concept of God, and every religion is wrong. They have to be. We're talking about the ultimate totality here, and no one creed can have absolute dominion over its definition. Man, I wish I'd said that sophomore year when I was trying to do Brenda Wilkins. I had Dark Side Of The Moon playing, we were splitting a bottle of Mateus, talking existentialism. If I had this pseudo-philosophical bullshit down back then, I would have gotten laid like Mothra's egg.

Western religions tend to imagine God as either a burning bush or Wilford Brimley with a beard and dreadlocks. In the East, you get a little more leeway: one God is a bare-breasted woman with six arms, another is a man with the head of an elephant. There is no doubt in my mind as to who has the better weed.

What happens to gods when people cease to worship them? Do they sit lonely on Mount Olympus wondering what the fuck Harry Hamlin was doing in Clash Of The Titans, or do they simply fade away? Or do they instead descend to earth and take jobs as wisecracking hosts of live late-night cable talk shows? Whoops, I've saideth too much.

The concept of God lets us imagine there's something more, that when you die you stumble out of this demented funhouse and there's someone there to explain what the hell you just went through, like the epilogue on a Quinn Martin show. That's all I want--I want everything clarified, you hear me Lord? Everything. I want a perfectly logical reason for all the wars, shootings, tortures, rapes, murders, cruelty and pain. And when You're done with that, can you please explain the frogs in MAGNOLIA to me?

You know what else I've realized about God? Even though Jesus once admonished, "Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's," God and commerce do frequently overlap. Did you ever notice the phrase "In God We Trust" only appears on the lesser denominations of our currency? You get up around the $1000 bill, and it just says "God, I Think I Can Take It From Here."

I don't think there's any doubt that people often yell, "Oh God" during sex because He wants to be appreciated for his best invention. If you don't shout His name when smelling a rose, well, that's OK. Not really bowled over by the sight of a glorious sunset? Fair enough. But if you don't give Him props for orgasms that make your toes curl like frying bacon, well, you're about to feel the awesome wrath of the Almighty's lightning-bolt enema.

Yes, some of God's handiwork is flawed. There are rivers that overflow, volcanoes that aren't quite sealed and tectonic plates that tend to crack over time. But isn't it comforting to know that even God has trouble finding a reliable contractor?

And for someone who is so great and all-powerful, Yahweh's got an awful lot of people talking for him these days, doesn't he? God's got more phonies claiming to know His will than Howard Hughes. Jerry Falwell says homosexuality and abortion are sins. Yeah, well, so is gluttony, Jerry. So why don't you drop about 50 or so and then talk to me about what people should or shouldn't be doing with their bodies. OK?

Don't get me wrong. People are certainly entitled to worship as they see fit, but don't go using God as a convenient template for your petty, bigoted views. If you want to ban interracial dating at your college because your father once caught you masturbating to a picture of Pam Grier and punished you by making you paint the house, and now every time you smell wet DuPont Latex Exterior it makes you think of Foxy Brown and you get all confused and horny and humiliated at the same time, and you want to make someone pay, just fucking say so. Don't put it on God, OK Jonesy?


Investor 1:
You keep the faith pal, there is nothing worse than exploiting someones faith in the hopes to make a quick buck!
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Re: Exploiting Faith
Who cares?
Jan-8-03 13:56
This forum isn't about exploring or exploiting faith, its about people who have been ripped off by Dot1web/Bob DeMaio. So please don't wast our time and space on this forum!
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RE: Re: Exploiting Faith
guest
Jan-8-03 14:25
I think that you are missing the point. Mr. Demaio has been involved in exploiting people's faith to gain investments from the unsuspecting.

I enjoyed that statement *chuckles*, as it does relate Mr. Demaio and his investors, in my opinion.

Not a Waste of Time, Whatsoever!!
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Hi Mom
guest 99
Jan-8-03 10:06
I know that its you mom and I won't do it again. Im out of here and I will call you soon. I love you
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ya, dats rite boss
Bobby Boucher, thats pronounced Booshay
Jan-8-03 01:35
If your going to throw money at a Bob type, get a securieties & investment lawyer FIRST. Whats a few extra thousand dollars anyway?
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get your facts straight
guest
Jan-7-03 23:07
"btw, there was an engineer prior to this one who tried to laim rights to the drive4u technology, too....he lost......"

GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT. He didn't lose, they settled out of court, and Bob had to pay him for the HUGE checks that he had bounced to his firm. Don't jump on the BOB-O wagon until you know your facts (and this can be checked in the actual court dockets!)
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The Real Slim Shady
The Real Slim Shady
Jan-8-03 23:47
Funnee. I was a member of that first, original team who created drive4U.com & the ahhh . . . "technology". In fact, Butthead Bob was my first account. We [the firm] were an independent web applications developer in California. . . until Bob figured it was cheaper to bring development *inhouse* to NV, where he didn't have to pay employees.

Check it @ www.codedog.org/nv

The scumbag was kiting $50k (thou) checks as we were getting on the plane to go to Carson City.

The stuff I see posted here, is all an ugly, reoccurring nightmare.

Don't walk. Run! Dot! Run!
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BOB DEMAYIHAVEMOREOFYOURMONEYO
dot1sucka
Jan-7-03 19:21
Hey anyone out there who is thinking of giving this man money dont he just wants to pay off the people he owes and the companies that have judgements against him-hes a great used car salesman-but I give you this saying "A FOOL AND HIS MONEY ARE SOON DEPARTED" now i dont know who would be the fool you for giving this guy money or him spending it on stuff like a 250,000 little yello car.
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Investigation
T
Jan-7-03 18:48
Lasy night I caught a little shit (in a nice way) about how I gained info about this dot thing. Somebody wanted info on who, what, where and how. I am not a speedy typer and do not want to spend alot of time explaining these things. The best thing I can suggest is that you keep checking this forum and maybe others like it. At the rate that the info is pouring in here is faster than a Lambo Diablo in high gear. For you people who need info this is the best place to get it without having to go out and find it yourself. Hang in there!
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articles
dot1sucka
Jan-7-03 18:11
her is a link to the tahoebonanza where a search of the last name demaio showed these articles



http://www.tahoebonanza.com/apps/pbcs.dll/search?Category=ARCHIVES
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sorry
dot1sucka
Jan-7-03 18:13
when going to the web site above type in DEMAIO in the search space then you will find 4 articles about his company
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dtwb stock price
10cent fool
Jan-7-03 18:04
Hey everybody look at http://www.thestreet.com/ type in dtwb, their stock is @.10 wow look at all those people who invested their money and got a steal at .10 a share

To sum it up:
People who invested two years ago have stock which is not tradeable and the value of their non-tradeable stock are worth .10

People who buy it today(I DONT KNOW WHY ANYBODY WOULD WITH ALL THE NEGATIVE PRESS) would have purchased it for WOW .10 a share and look they can dump it because they got it on the open market, I wonder who got the short end of the stick!!!!!
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personal loans?
guest
Jan-7-03 16:14
I hope Hell has a particularly spiky barstool reserved for these people. What's with this personal-loans-diverted-to-5cent-shares bull%#%? There's something inherently wrong with a company when you give them money for personal loans, so the CEO can buyout outstanding shares. The only thing more indifferent to human suffering than Mother Nature is Dot1Web trying to go on the NASDAQ.
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personal loans
guest
Jan-7-03 17:45
Way back when...Lowestbids had an injuction put against them by the Minnesota State Securities(I believe it was May of 2001)he could not sell any of his DIME SHARES in LOwBall.com-so he told a good majority of the investors that he wanted to buy out all of the investors in Lowestbids.com-to do this he asked them for a "PERSONAL LOAN" which either they could have their monies back with 10% interest after 6 months or shares in the "NEW COMPANY" aka dot1web at 5 cents a share-at this point neither of the two promises are being kept-nobody has recieved their "LOAN MONEY" back and have not recieved their "SHARES" in the "NEW COMPANY" at 5 cents-more promises unkept more promises to break.......
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Personal loans?
Dot1going,going,gone!
Jan-7-03 16:39
I think the problem is that Bob hasn't delivered on his promises, and none of the investors have seen a single cent back in return from the personal loans they gave Bob.
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Personal loans?
Dot1 yard sale
Jan-7-03 16:51
...and there must be an extra special place in heaven reserved for CEO like Kenneth Lay, and Bob DeMaio.
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better jobs are out there
guest
Jan-7-03 16:37
Within a week of being let go, I already had a better job, with the same rate of pay, full medical benefits (I paid 10 bucks for a prescription last week) paid vacation, and we actually produce something that people need and use.

No more lie lie lie. One time at dot1web I asked the CEO pipsqueek where our promised health insurance was, and if I should just go buy my own insurance. He lied to me and said "you'll be getting your insurance in a week,they're just busy working on it". This was another lie.

It was a great place to work until their stupid dress code and crazy hours were enforced. I don't know anyone who can work 50+ hours a week in a beautiful place like Tahoe, and still keep their relationships with their loved ones.

Seems like if you want to ruin yourself then go ahead and work work work.

Life is too short --- get a better job. Don't slave away for someone who gets rich riding on the shoulders of others.
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GOOD FOR YOU
DOT1SUCKA
Jan-7-03 18:20
Hey congrats, and if he ows you pay go after him-go to the labor board-if you know any other wrongdoing report him to the SEC-or to the poilce-if he has bounced checks to you dont buy the bank hasnt enough money on hand for my payrole-turn him in for bad check writing-turn them all in
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Wow!
Dinky
Jan-7-03 16:11
There is so much info flying here, I cant hit my refresh button fast enough. This is getting to be great fun. Keep the masses informed! C-ya The big Dink
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take a look we ar all suckers
suckersrus
Jan-7-03 14:50
Just think if the discussions are one sided-dont you think that all these one sided complaints are legit-

as for the stock - any big investor who has sunk money into this stock while it was privately held has a big red "NOT TRADEABLE" stamped on the certificates. If you look close enough you will see on the site thestreet.com the stock price is for tradeable shares only-the man(BOB) owns the majority of the tradeable shares-and with all of his financial trouble he has to sell these stock to pay people so he can avoid the law and labor board

Also if you read some of the press releases you will find out the "THE COMPANY" has issued a buyback program over the next 6 months or so-

SO here is the picture for those of you who cant see it to clearly.

BOB DEMAIO sells his shares for whatever he can get to pay employees, pay bills, pay lawyers, ect.- and since he owns over 70% of the shares he never loses control of the company, so he is still making the decisions. The company then buys back the shares in the next 6 months assuming BOB makes this thing work-then later on the board consisting of all of his underlings issues shares to BOB DEMAIO for a good job of running the company and keeping it going.

BREAK IT DOWN
1. BOB SELLS STOCK PAYS BILLS
2. THE COMPANY BUYS BACK STOCK WITH OTHER SUCKERS(INVESTOR)MONEY
3. THE COMPANY BOARD ISSUES BOB SHARES AS COMPENSATION FOR RUNNING THE COMPANY, SO BOB NEVER LOSES CONTROL OF THE COMPANY

This 3rd part hasnt happen yet but it will
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actually....
guest
Jan-7-03 15:00
um, those shares for everyone ARE tradeable starting in sept.....you have to hold onto them for a year from when it goes public.....

the company can only do the buyback program IF it has the money to do so, which means it also has to clear up the debt first....(that press release might have been issued, too, before the investor funding fell thru)

if he buys back stock, then people ARE getting their money back, are they not? and hey, so he doesn't let go of controlling interest in his company - would you so that it could be taken out from under you at a whim? bill gates didn't let his go until he was completely comfortable, i''m sure...
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tradeable in sept
tradeable in sept
Jan-7-03 15:20
Keep dreaming-just like those warrent options that he sold will be tradeable-those fools(investors) who gave him money wil have a chance right before the warrent expire to excerises those options and the excersiable price of 50 cents a share. If they dont then they go away if you dont excersize them

LETS SEE
Im waiting till SEPT to sell thats when they are tradeable-right BOB can put restrictions on the shares because you bought them before they went public-look at the back of the certificates and you will see a script on back-if you look up what this means, you will find out that by law he can restrick your shares as for long as he wants.

Sorry FOOL(invertor) it would of been better if you bought the shares today for 10 and prayed for the stock to go up in the next few days, But with BOB selling his shares the stock will be at a penny
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Ummm...
Guest
Jan-7-03 15:10
Did I just read this correctly???
Are you comparing Bob Demaio to Bill Gates??

LOL, I still can't stop laughing ;)

First off, I doubt that after a year passes, those shares will be worth squat, you'll probably end up owing money :)
Secondly, Mr. Demaio has "Discrepancy" written all over the papers, any moron would realize that!!! He can't keep up with his lies anymore (Obviously)
Are people getting paid back?? Good question, doesn't sound like it, considering he is being investigated by the Labor Commissioner.

My Goodness What has this world come too??? LOL
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re:umm
guest
Jan-7-03 18:42
no - i said he's smart to not give up controlling interest - you certainly wouldn't either if it meant you could be booted from the company you created.....

i think the certificates are bound by SEC rules, are they not? not left up to the discrepancies and whims of a ceo....
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think again...
guest
Jan-7-03 22:55
think again, sweetie, demaio uses Reg D as an exemption to SEC rules...but if he IS guilty of fraud or taking money that's not his, no SEC rules exempt him from prosecution...
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