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WebWideISP is officially INACTIVE
Curioser Jan-24-03 18:05	Hey, has anyone noticed that at about the same time 200+ messages were deleted from this board, they changed the category too? Instead of being found in "North America > United States > cheap > WebWide ISP > reviews". we are now officially recognized as "North America > United States > inactive > WebWide ISP > reviews". If FreedomList.com says so, it must be true! We are now hidden away as an "inactive" ISP. no longer findable on their United States list http://www.freedomlist.com/find.php3?country=166
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Conversation with Micheal Tancheck
JP Jan-24-03 19:41	Well this is the first time I have been here and it is now INACTIVE, wonderful. My converstation with Mike was anything but eventful. More of the Political garbage and who knows what is next. I hope everyone is continuing to survive or have found work. Will keep in touch
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Re: WebWideISP is officially INACTIVE
lowestbobs.com Jan-24-03 18:57	yes, I did notice that a while ago and Boz one of the moderators at this site still has Dot1web on his "CHEAPEST OF THE CHEAP" ISPs [Updated 01-09-03] list http://www.freedomlist.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5682 Another moderator named Corrine said that they removed us because "You have more than made your point about Dot1web. The reason your posts were removed from the Webwideisp review section was because it was out of hand and we were receiving complaints from people trying to find out about the ISP service." Well I wonder who was really complaining? Obviously it was Dot1web complaining because there where to many negative messages about them, and freedomlist folded. Regardless though they still haven't shut us up and Dot1web is still a sinking ship thats not going to recover. I know this is true Dot1web was sinking while I was still employed there, they just tried to hide it from us. So now they are even more desperate and owe lots of money have a bad reputation in Incline, and everywhere. They will definitely not be moving into a new building in Incline because all the business people in Incline know about Dot1web now and their not going to be scammed next. I definitely know Dot1web will not make it another or even a few more months.
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Sites Down?
ex dot1 Jan-24-03 10:45	It appears most, if not all, of the sites are down or running so slow they don't load. Anyone know anything?
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Re: Sites Down?
Another Ex Dotdone Jan-24-03 16:45	I can still get to all their sites except instant web crap creations. That site been down for a while now. I'm on a cable connection. I noticed that they took that cheesy java news marquee off wwisp that might have been what was causing the problem.
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Servers Were Repossessed?
CodeBorg Jan-24-03 17:46	InstantWebSiteCreation.com depends on some very specific network hardware being in place. Highly-placed rumors indicate this hardware was not fully paid for. The fact that it's been offline may mean the hardware was finally repossesed by the vendor. Also, all 15 websites are running extremely slowly. Either they are under attack, bogging them down, or they have been moved to another location and put on a very slow connection. From the throughput I'm seeing, I think all 15 websites are now running on just a few PC's connected to a single DSL line. Times are tough at Dot1web. Let's hope they can sell some more hardware to start paying people back!
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The websites...
ex dot 1, one of many... Jan-25-03 01:57	I'm sure all of us who worked on them feel a little sad about that, but, OTOH, it was also maddening that those sites were still operational (even if there were few customers) while we were unpaid for that work.
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Re: Servers Were Repossessed?
Lowestbobs.com Jan-24-03 19:19	Okay, I see what you mean now I cleared my cache and went back to all their sites and none of the images are loading. I think its time to start counting 1.. 2.. 3.. K.O. Dot1web is almost Dot1gone
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Another Headline
Snake Eyes Jan-24-03 10:25	Go to http://www.tahoebonanza.com/
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More problems
Dot1web Investor Jan-23-03 20:02	According to Catherine Leaututu at Interwest Transfer Company, Interwest is no longer working with Dot1web. They were suppose to give investors their stock certificates of Dot1web but they haven't been able to get a hold of Bob in a while. More problems for investors.
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Stock certificates
Snake Eyes Jan-23-03 20:56	I realize this is probably a stupid question. What value do these dot1web stock certs have to the investor other than for starting the fireplace?
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Money
Dot1web investor Jan-21-03 09:23	Has anyone received any money from Bob recently? He claims he was going to pay off all debt after settling the law suit.
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Money Coming Soon!
Patiently Waiting Jan-21-03 20:03	On Saturday 1/11/03, Bob called me by phone and said he was in the Bay Area, arranging some short-term funding. He said he was able to get some money, and would be paying all the current employees up-to-date on Tuesday, when he returned. Never heard from him again. Let's make our discussion a little simpler. Does anyone have a story where Bob said he would do something, and then he followed through and did it? Has anyone heard Bob say something that was TRUE? Ever? A positive story about Bob .... anything? Please! I could really use some encouragement right about now.
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Pay Current Employees?
ex dot one Jan-22-03 14:18	What about the 100 or so former employees? There are probably only about 10-12 current employees, not counting Bob and his, uh, entourage. Seems to me the laid-off and unpaid ex-employeess should have first claim on ANY new funding.
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Free Choice Lays Before You
Just EX it... right now. Jan-22-03 22:19	Well, consider your choices. Would you rather be laid-off or laid-on? You can be out of Bob's game, on the sidelines, or directly in the path of his lies, promises, blame-filled stories laid on one after the other, and laid over and over again (if you're not careful). Call me a voyeur, but I'd rather watch than participate, and I believe most sane customers would too. This ISP stands for Internet Scam Provider.
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Bob in the Bay
ex dot one Jan-21-03 23:07	Now, Jimmy Buffet could probably write a neat song about that subject title, but... I'm sure Bob just got hung up in the Bay area with some humanitarian activity. Perhaps demonstrating against the Administration's Iraq Policy, or some other humanitarian activity that delayed him there. We ALL know how much he cares for those causes, the underdog, being fair, treating everyone with dignity and honor... You know, good ole' soft hearted Bob
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Re: Money from Bob?
ex dot one Jan-21-03 11:50	On Monday, December 16, 2002 (last year, remember?), I asked Bob about our paychecks due the next day. He looked me straight in the eye, and told me we'd all be paid the next day - "No problem." I'm still waiting...., as are about 100 others who have spouses, children, bills, etc. Sorry, but this guy lies easier than breathing.
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Dot1Ripped-off
Re: Re: Money from Bob? Jan-21-03 15:27	I haven't seen a dime yet. And don't believe a word Bob says. Bob has a long history of not paying employees, contractors, investors etc and can continue to do so because he's protected by the State of Nevada. You can read all about dot1web @ http://www.oocities.org/Dot1news/ I don't know how the people are that made that site but they did a lot of good research and presented it in a non-biased way. Another good site is http://www.codedog.org/nv the guy who made this site is a web developer that was contracted by Bob to make drive4u.com, and hasn't been paid. P.S. We should probably start using this forum instead http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Dot1news/ freedomlist already erased all our messages once when dot1web complained there where to many negative complaints about them.
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Check this out!
Snake Eyes Jan-18-03 00:30	www.oocities.org/Dot1news
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Great!
early riser Jan-18-03 10:47	Yes, I will (and have) be sending this url to as many people as I can think of. What was good ole' Bob's slogan/mantra ... "What the Internet was meant to be" Well, getting the word out on Dot1 is also what the internet was meant to be....., and will be. Let's all keep the pressure on this guy for as long as we can, even if he does take care of the back pay, investors, etc.
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freedome of information
former dot1 Jan-18-03 00:47	Send this link to everyone you know who was part of dotone or lowestbids, or any of the others. http://www.oocities.org/Dot1news/
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dot1web?
Snake Eyes Jan-15-03 23:28	Well folks it looks like the party is over for Dot1Web. Today it appears that the plug was pulled. I just hope for the sake of the former employees that some restitution can be had for them. Hopefully the Federal, State and local agencies will do everything in their power to put some resolve to this horrific, shameful, down right criminal fraudulant scam.
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.1web
Scrub Jan-16-03 23:37	How do you know its over for .1web? I read in the paper the they settled the lawsuit and Bob did get a huge settlement.
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Dot1web the way the web wasn't meant to be!
dot1weak Jan-17-03 04:09	Where did you get that information from? Bob was a Plaintiff and Counter-Defendant, so we don't know who the settlement went to, Bob might have lost but we don't know it didn't say in the article. The only information it told us is that the terms of the settlement are confidential. Regardless it looks like dot1web is recouping, and the same thing that happened to us will probably happen to his new employees too. Why am I being so pessimistic you might ask? Because it has happened before to a lot of other employees from drive4u, lowestbids and dot1web. I don't care anymore though dot1web is just a cheese wanna be dot com business that I don't believe will ever get off the ground, and will eventually fade away. If you want to use their service goto it. They're not an ISP that I would recommend to anyone. P.S I'm still waiting for that pay check that they owe me.
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Ya, right Scrub
Snake Eyes Jan-17-03 00:25	You might look at who made that announcement to the newspaper. A few of us have been around this guy for a few years.
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.1web
Scrub Jan-17-03 11:32	You're right about who made the comment about the settled law suit. Bob does talk a good game and that is part of the reason I invested in .1web. Here is the irony for me. I am angry with Bob because I invested in the company and I still haven't received the stock certificate or loan money that he promised I would get last year. So I hope he rots in hell for screwing me over. But on the other hand I hope he does make it because there may be a change that I can make some money. Did he pay any employees with stock? If so, has anyone been able to sell the stock?
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Law suit
Sarge Jan-17-03 12:20	You guys are morons. Read the paper again. It says the law suit was settled in which the Bob was the plantiff. It didn't mention anything about Bob being the defendant.
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Law suit
laid off, and ripped off Jan-17-03 15:53	@67408 LOWESTBIDS.COM, INC. unavailable Case: CV01-01366 SKINNER V. DRIVE4U consolidated in CV01-02286 Defendant Counterclaimant 20-MAR-2001 @67408 LOWESTBIDS.COM, INC. unavailable Case: CV01-01366 SKINNER V. DRIVE4U consolidated in CV01-02286 Defendant 20-MAR-2001 In these two law suits Bob is the defendant in one he has a counter claim and both of these cases have been consolidated, in the paper they said that the case was against SKINNER so I assume these must be two of the cases that they where referring to. So I don't think the paper told us everything Sarge. Pull your head out of your ass and take a big whiff of reality, the options that Bob gave you are never going to be worth shit, and Dot1web is never going to go anywhere.
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Well Big Golly Gomer Sarge
Snake Eyes Jan-17-03 14:38	Do you really believe that press release? If you do, you are the MORON. How much did you invest?
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dot1web
Sarge Jan-17-03 17:11	I have to believe what I read in the newspaper. I feel the writer Bonanza has been objective. He has given both sides of the story. As far as how much I have invested... 8k. Its not much compared to what I have heard others have invested.
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Dot1web
Dot1laid-off, and ripped off Jan-19-03 17:05	Hey Sarge, I apologies for barking at you I had no right, I just got a little pissed off when you called everyone morons, and I thought you where someone else that worked for Dot1web.
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Yeh, Webwide ISP don't work.
ddmyers Jan-16-03 03:07	I'm glad I found this bulletin board, cuz I definitely will have to change my credit card information to protect myself. I've had to do this once before when a casual friend jotted down my credit info while I was sleeping. Fortunately, I caught that one before it was used to buy stuff on the internet. Anyway, thanks for making me aware of these problems. D Myers
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Credit cards
DAK Jan-16-03 21:42	I called my cc bank today to dispute my recent billing by webwide. She said that they cannot stop recurring charges, nor does cancellation of the card stop the charges. She said to dispute any additional charges. Calling webwide to drop service or change cards is impossible as the phones are not answered or are eternally busy. So good luck to all.
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Continuing the forum
Dot1ripoff Jan-13-03 00:56	We have started a new forum at http://www.freedomlist.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9390 go there to continue the discussion.
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Re: Continuing the forum
Dot1scumbag Jan-13-03 20:58	Come on everybody we need to hear your stories again. We know that the freedomlist moderator stole a lot of our thunder when they deleted our messages off the board. The new forum has all ready started up, and we need to hear your stories. We want to hear from everybody thats had dealing with Bob Demaio and Dot1web, eg; investors, employees, and customers. People have very short memories and it won't be long before butthead Bob's back to his old scams. We can help stop him by airing his dirty laundry on the Internet and contacting Dot1web merchants. It won't be to long before Bob will find new suckers (investors) and a new groups of employees to ripoff, the same way he suckered us and many others before us. Remembers the lies they told us about how the engineers and lawyers tried to take over his company? We know what the real story is now, they never paid them. So come back and join us! @ http://www.freedomlist.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9390 and here http://www.freedomlist.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9312
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Go to General Forum
Bobby Boucher, thats pronounced Booshay Jan-12-03 20:35	The Freedomlist moderator says that a our dicussions about the dying dot1web should be done in the general forum. There is already a post there under the heading of Dot1web discussion by Snake Eyes. C-ya
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Freedomlist?
Betrayed Jan-11-03 22:10	I can't believe that they deleted all the messages off this board they even removed messages off their other Dot1web boards. I guess freedom of speech isn't one of thefreedoms that you have on this list. Would the Administrator of this board like to give us any explanation?
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lawsuits
guest Jan-11-03 22:24	I don't think "payment" is in his vocabulary. Try "Lawsuit"
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Re: lawsuits
Betrayed Jan-11-03 22:39	Does this mean that they are now going to remove every bad comment said about every ISP now? Are they going to become whores to these companies?
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Be Very Careful
filet demaio Jan-11-03 22:22	If you are considering using WebWideISP as your ISP, consider this. The people running the company are currently involved in many lawsuits, some small, some large. The CEO is known for not paying bills and writing fraudelent checks. To sign up with this ISP, you must report your credit card number. Identity theft has been a growing criminal problem throughout our country. Credit Card fraud is quite rampant with internet companies. Be very careful who you give your credit card number out to.
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See for yourself
The EYE Jan-11-03 22:41	Pull up the Rip Off Report or The Bad Business Bureau and type in Drive4U.com and see what you get. It will tell you a little bit about what this guy does with your credit numbers.
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Dot1scams and frauds
Betrayed Jan-12-03 01:52	Yeah here's a link to that: http://www.badbusinessbureau.com/view.asp?id=2802
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Lets take this somewhere else.
Betrayed Jan-11-03 23:01	There is no point in posting any more messages at this forum. They openly admit that they censor speech at this site. So we should continue the fight some where else because we've already seen what their about. My last complaint is if they arn't going to let us talk about Dot1web/WWISP on their site then they shouldn't let anyone. It is absolute garbage when they delete all the messages from the board execpt messages from one or two years ago that say stuff like "WWISP IS GREAT". We don't even know if that person is still using WWISP and what would he say about WWISP now. Basicly we need to move to another forum. Freedomlist is nothing but a whore.
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DOT1WEB EMAIL NOT SECURE
someone who knows Jan-11-03 22:15	Secure HTTP was never implemented in their e-mail system. They do not use HTTPS, but rather the insecure, plaintext HTTP protocol. If you use WebWideISP Email, you will notice in your browser's address bar that they never use HTTPS. If you view the HTML Source, you can search on HTTPS and find nothing. This means anyone with a packet sniffer on your network or dot1web's can view your "private" mail with no problems. Keep in mind that .1web hires RANDOM people and there are known CROOKS working at that business. Do you trust your privacy to these individuals.
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