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November 19, 1997 Christian> Howdy JJEE [JJEE] Hi Christian, I just recently found out about this deal and thought I'd see what was going on tonight. Christian> Well it's a little slow Christian> you missed Chip, but he was having a storm moving in and was afraid to be on his computer Christian> Where are you from? [JJEE] Well, tell me about the history of this room if you can. I think it's a great idea. Christian> The history....well Christian> I ran across the program by visiting Tom Cleeremans Social Work Chat Christian> Thought that an adventure-based chat would be worth setting up since it was free Christian> That really is the history. Christian> I've had it set up for about three weeks now...and its still developing Christian> Did you hear about it on the AEE list? [JJEE] O.K.. Thanks. It puts a little perspective on it then. We don't get to talk enough as facilitators. Yes, I saw it on the AEE web page Christian> On the AEE web page....hmmmm did not know that Rick put it up there Christian> I agree about the talking part....often we tend to be isolated....I see this as one more way for us to increase communication Christian> So what kind of facilitation do you do? [JJEE] I work as a consultant for many different organizations and find that work days are more about work and not so much about professional development. Which is how it should be of course--that's why we're hired. I love talking about my work though and I there's so much depth in EE to talk about. >> farley has joined channel #Adventure-basedChat Christian> Howdy Farley [farley] hi all [JJEE] I work at ropes courses with all age groups, in the woods on longer courses with girls mostly, and doing trainings with businesses and college groups, etc. [JJEE] Hi Farley [JJEE] How do you fit into EE C & F? Christian> Well I think you have lots in common with farley if I recall Christian> Don't you work at Girls Inc. Farley? [farley] what is ee c & f Christian> What is EEC&F? [farley] good memory Christian [JJEE] How do you fit into experiential ed., Christian and Farley? Christian> Sometimes....I still have it farley...others...well [farley] Got it Christian> OHHHHHHHH Christian> Farley go ahead and tell your story [farley] I work at Girls Inc. I too work mostly with Girls, unless I am working with adults. sometimes I get males then [farley] I use ee to help build communication skills and problem solving skills [farley] and of course for fun [JJEE] Well, that's great farley. So we need a topic. Christian> E.E. is the guiding philosophy in all my work Christian> I mostly teach in a university setting at this point [JJEE] How do you 2 make $ in the winter Christian> I also do a lot of adventure-based work (which for me is only a small part of E.E.) Christian> But it is my real area of passion and the work that I most enjoy [farley] I am employed full time at Girls Inc. as a program coordinator, I don't get to do as much EE work as I use to because I am in management more now. I have to make special date to work with adults and kids just to get EE in [farley] We have both an indoor and outdoor course Christian> Well you suggested a topic, did you have one in mind [JJEE] A full time, year round job does the trick. [JJEE] Yes, that was my topic (winter income) [farley] where do you live JJEE [JJEE] New Hampshire Christian> So you are currently in a contract seasonal position JJEE Christian> Where in NH Christian> I use to live in the Dublin, Peterbourgh area [JJEE] I'm a subcontractor, and an independent contractor and live in southeastern NH Christian> Near Mike Gass then [JJEE] He has never revealed the precise town in which he lives to me, but yes, near Mike Gass Christian> Mike lives in Durham or a surrounding town Christian> So are you contracting out mostly as a ropes course facilitator Christian> or are you more of an OD consultant using ropes courses >> farley has left channel #Adventure-basedChat [JJEE] Christian, it sounds like you might do a fair amount of thinking about how people learn experientially since you work in a university setting and ee is your passion Christian> Farley may have gotten dumped for inactivity....the system does that if you are inactive for some time Christian> Yeah...I'd say that would be a fair statement. I just finished my dissertation which focused on the philosophy of E.E. Christian> Is that an area of your interest? >> farley has joined channel #Adventure-basedChat [farley] aol cut me off Christian> I figured you got dumped Farley.... [farley] Christian I sent you a game you might be able to use for your human development course. If it doesn't come through write me Christian> Did you just send it? [JJEE] Bye farley, maybe he'll be back. I do ropes course work, longer course work (14 days, etc.) and lots of things in between. It's hard to describe in a small nutshell. [farley] yes about 5 hours ago e-mail Christian> I've got it...just looked at my e-mail...it was the metamorphosis game Christian> I've played it and it might work well...thanks [farley] I don't get to do 14 day workshops should like fun and work-----yes Christian Christian> Who do you do the 14 day courses for JJEE Christian> I've worked for OB for 12 years including a few for HIOBS (which is why I was in NH) >> Rks has joined channel #Adventure-basedChat Christian> Howdy RKS [JJEE] Christian, I need to get going. I'll be back next week. [Rks] hello [farley] I plan on doing an ABC course for girls at the end of the summer. 16 year old. [farley] hey rks Christian> RKS it looks like you have come in from Tom Cleeramans social work site [Rks] just wondering what this is all about? [Rks] yes [Rks] checking out [Rks] social work chat? Christian> For JJEE and Farley...this chat room is on two pages [JJEE] Hi rks. Farley, I've worked summer courses for the Center for Ventures in Girls Education in Wellesley, MA which runs courses out of Mead Wilderness Base in Sandwich, NH [farley] later Christian TO Rks> RKS....we are actually discussing adventure-based work wilderness and ropes [JJEE] Bye all Christian> Later Farley [Rks] I see Christian> I won't be here next week....but you are welcome to show up Christian> I may demonstrate the Chat at the AEE conference Christian> Stay tune to the AEE list Christian> for detailed time >> Rks has left channel #Adventure-basedChat [farley] I guess I going for this week later all Christian> Bye >> farley has left channel #Adventure-basedChat >> JJEE has left channel #Adventure-basedChat >> Barton has joined channel #Adventure-basedChat [Barton] Hello Christian> Howdy [Barton] Nice to talk to you once more. Christian> You missed a good number of folks Christian> I think you are number 6 this evening [Barton] Well I got caught up in writing and the time flew by. What was the topic tonight? Christian> Well it never really jelled as a topic...but it began to move in two areas Christian> jobs in the winter and professional development [Barton] Professional development sounds interesting. I will have to look up the achieves in the future. Christian> Well as I said it never really jelled as a discussion...so I'm not sure there is much of value Christian> I'll look at the archive and see if it warrants posting. [Barton] ah. [Barton] I will try to remember to log on the proper time next week. Christian> Actually I won't be here next week...AEE Conference Christian> You may want to pay attention to the AEElist Christian> I might demonstrate this at the conference depending on the technology available [Barton] I forgot, these thing tend to rush at the last moment. Have you heard what sort of numbers might show. Christian> In fact I think I will post something to the list seeing if folks would be interested Christian> I think they may be at 1400 Christian> or was it 1200 Christian> Anyway it looks like it will be a success....which I must admit I'm surprised by [Barton] I was hoping to attend but the travel cost were prohibitive for me this year. Christian> Yup...the whole thing is very expensive and for us in the US right near a holiday [Barton] I do plan to attend in the future. [Barton] Right Thanksgiving...you do hold it later then here in Canada. Christian> Yup...yours is really the "correct" time at least in terms of harvest Christian> How's the writing going? [Barton] Well I hope things go well. I hope the list will keep those of us not present informed. Christian> It has in the past...someone usually has posted a daily update...if there are any technology stations it could get better [Barton] The thesis is plugging along. As well I am finishing a paper on reflective thought within teaching. I am not certain that I have come to terms with it. It is so alien from my past thinking. Christian> Did you check out Roger Greenaway's page on reflective thinking? [Barton] Actually I have not come across him. Do you have an URL? [Barton] I could check a search engine. Christian> It's on my link page under activity pages section...he has some feedback exercises...but his general page is about reflective thought [Barton] Right, thank you for the information. Christian> No problem Christian> Are you using Shone as one of the primary sources? [Barton] Yes indeed. Christian> And Boud as well? [Barton] As well as David Hunt and Stephen Brookfield. Christian> Not familiar with those two Christian> I only touched on Reflective thinking as it relates to E.L. in my dissertation [Barton] Hunt wrote Beginning with ourselves. Brookfield, Becoming a reflective teacher. Christian> Are you looking at the Inquiry and Action Learning material Christian> Hmmm....I'll have to look at Brookfield...sounds interesting. [Barton] Indeed. [Barton] The point of the paper is to construct metaphors of teaching in order to gain insight in yourself as a teacher. Christian> Interesting assignment Christian> Sounds like some narrative work [Barton] It has provided material for further thought. Narrative thought is a primary trend within this exercise. Christian> Have you done any exploration of Michael White's Narrative therapy? [Barton] Rather superficial at this point. Christian> I've not really gotten into it myself....only in tangential ways....one of the workshops at the TAPG conference will explore this a little [Barton] I do have to leave. Enjoy the conference next week. I do look foreword for two weeks from now, with luck it will provide points for discussion. Christian> I'll be exploring with others this technology Christian> Have a good time Christian> Bye [Barton] Leave a note on the list if you do manage to set up electronic conferencing at the conference. Bye. >> Barton has left channel #Adventure-basedChat