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starjade
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(9/4/04 8:32 pm)
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 Muhammad thinks he is Jesus.
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Well hello again Iris. I know you are a busy person and also write in many places so i am sure your time gets taxed also. I wanted to point out the Blasphemy of that Shirker salaudinnynj you know the offensive one who has been shirking the sura 4:82 and those many yes many errors in the Koran.
That Shirker salaudinnynj has recently made a copy cat Testimony regarding that proven false Prophet mad Muhammad
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I ask that you take a look at the above link and read what that Kuffar (one who hides the truth) Shirker salaudinnynj has to say about his idol the false Prophet Mad Muhammad.
I did mention that Muslims were claiming that Mad Muhammad their Idol was in fact that Prophet that God promised Moses he would raise up. And the Kuffar (one who hides the truth) Shirker salaudinnynj has finally given that evidence of that claim by Mad Muhammad and this claim I can say this is a real claim that Muslims have made regarding their idol the false Prophet mad Muhammad. I have heard those claims before whiles other Muslims were in fact teaching me stuff about Islam.
Now I know and you know and everyone else knows that The Sura 4:82 does prove that the Koran and the word of Muhammad are both proven to be false. And we both know as does every Muslim on earth that Mad Muhammad believed in Jesus and in fact 11 chapters of the Koran glorify Jesus as being the Prophet that Jesus has claimed himself to be. And we all know that the Prophet that Jesus has claimed himself to be is that very Prophet that God promised Moses he would raise up.
Now I ask you to contain yourself from laughing out loud when you read that Shirker salaudinnynj statement. We all know it is funny and we all know that these Muslims have a mental block and cannot see what is wrong in Mad Muhammad claiming himself to be that Prophet and then in believing that jesus was the prophet that Jesus has claimed himself to be. It is so very hard for Muslims to grasp. Especially if they are over the age of ten.
However I thought you might be interested in reading these laughable claims made by Mad Muhammad that have put one of the biggest religious cockups ever in history on the front page of today’s religious News.
Starjade continues: Might I say again that I did mention this error in the words of Muhammad and the Koran. But it seems Most Muslims are a bit thick and so they have not grasped the subtle way I have pointed out this error in the Koran and how it glorifies Jesus in 11 chapters of the Koran as being the Prophet that jesus has claimed himself to be. Which you have most adequately explained to all of us.
And then how Muhammad then claims himself to be that very same Prophet.
Verse 122: The 4th error in the text of the Koran is that it glorifies Jesus and does accept Jesus as being the Prophet that Jesus and his disciples claimed Jesus to be. The writers of the Koran seem blissfully unaware, as are many Muslims, that Jesus has claimed that he was that very Prophet that the living God had promised Moses he would raise up. And Jesus claimed that Moses and Isaiah had been writing about him in their Prophecies, regarding the coming of the living God’s prophesied Prophet because that is who Jesus has claimed himself to be. The Koran contains highly revering text about Jesus and even describes miracles that Jesus was claimed to have performed, Sura 5:110. No less than 11 Chapters of the Koran out of its 114 Chapters mention Jesus and his teachings. So the Koran is confirming the status of Jesus as being that very Prophet that Jesus has claimed himself to be. This is a very serious error from an Islamic point of view whose writers were unaware of the claims that Jesus had been making and of the reflection that claim would have upon the claims of their own Prophet Muhammad. Their glorification of Jesus in the Koran puts Muhammad in a very awkward position with his own proclamations from an Islamic point of view.
OK you can have a good laugh now Iris as those Muslims especially that Shirker salaudinnynj who does seem intent on sending us such humour.
So the Sura 4:82 in the Koran says if any errors are found in the Koran then that is proof that the Koran did not come from God. I named this 4th error in the Koran with full sincerety. Would you say as an unbiased individual that I have truly pointed out a very serious error existing in the Koran. As it does seem to have escaped the Shirkers of Islams notice.
The Sura 4:82 says if one error is found in the Koran then the Koran did not come from God. Isnt it illogical for Muhammad to believe in jesus and admit and claim that Jesus is that prophet that Jesus has claimed himself to be. And then go away and say that he Muhammad is that very specific and very same prophet that he has just admitted in 11 glorified chapters of the Koran that Jesus is that Prophet that Jesus has claimed himself to be. Which we all know that Jesus has claimed that he is that very specific Prophet that God had promised Moses he would raise up. Which is exactly what Prophet Jesus has claimed himself to be.
Is it me or is something just too funny to speak about here. (I wonder what was the name of the Islamic Elephant ?)
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starjade
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(9/6/04 3:44 pm)
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Re: Muhammad is presumptuous to think.
Well i am surprised that you have not answered Iris you must be very busy. I will of course be replying to Shirker salaudinnynj claims about muhammad being that Prophet and you just know i shall be proving Muhammad to be a fraud. easily as i have already replyed the same to other Muslims who produced those same claims to me years ago. (Deja Veiw)
I just find it so very odd that Muhammad believed in Jesus and the Koran glorifies Jesus and so the Koran and Muhammad are both agreeing that they believe Jesus is the Prophet that Jesus has claimed himself to be as do all Christians world wide. And yet Muhammad and the Koran did not know that the Prophet that Jesus has claimed himself to be is that very prophet that God promised Moses he would raise up.
The odd thing is that Muhammad has proclaimed himself to being that very Prophet that God promised Moses he would raise up. And the claims of proof are almost matching the claims of Jesus. yet Muhammad and the Koran say that Jesus is who Jesus said he was. But the writers of the Koran and mad Muhammad did not know that Jesus was claiming to be that prophet that God promised Moses he would raise up. Now that is true religious ignorance that has been travelling about in the mist of Time.
Well now isnt it an error of muhammad and also an error in the Koran for Muhammad and the Koran to both claim Jesus is who jesus has claimed himself to be which is that very prophet that the Living God promised Moses he would raise up.
And you Iris have given a good account here of those Christian claims and beliefs and have shown that jesus has claimed that he (Jesus) is that prophet that God promised Moses he would raise up and that is exactly who Jesus is claimed to be and this is also claimed as Testimony by Mathew Mark Luke and John. And they say that the Angel gabriel came along to authenticate Jesus as being who Jesus has said that he was.
It is such an odd thing and a serious error in the Koran and the word of Muhammad who has claimed himself to be that very prophet that the Living God promised Moses he would raise up. It was a mistake of muhammad whiles making such proclomations about himself to then make those same claims and have those same beliefs about Jesus that are also in 11 chapters of the Koran.
Edited by: starjade at: 9/6/04 3:45 pm
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iris89
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(9/7/04 3:34 pm)
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Proof of Nonsense and Sick Posters
Hi Everyone
I do not agree that the Arabs are proof that Islam is a lie, they may by their actions give strong indicators to this effect, However, one poster by his just plain illogical and nonsense post and unwarranted attacks has proven it, see below.
The Arabs need to clean out the sick (mentally) among them. You never see true Christians doing these kinds of things. Yes, counterfeit Christians do, sometimes; but the Arabs seem unable to deal with their sick ones and let them go on terrible attacks against others. In fact there is even one on this forum that says, <<" i detsroyed you">>, and the others have failed to take action as yet against him, very telling.
By MIKE ECKEL, Associated Press Writer
BESLAN, Russia - President Vladimir Putin (news - web sites) ordered the borders of North Ossetia closed Saturday as security forces searched the southern region for militants who escaped the Russian storming of a school where they had held hundreds of people hostage, many who fled the building under fire. A news agency reported 322 bodies were pulled from the rubble.
One of the goals of the terrorists was to sow ethnic enmity and blow up the North Caucasus," Putin said. "Anyone who gives in to such a provocation will be viewed by us as abetting terrorism," he said. Valery Andreyev, Russia's Federal Security Service chief in the region, said 10 Arabs were among 27 militants killed. [source = Associated Press Writer, Mike Eckel]
Some are just plain crazy and do not understand context nor appreciate candor as the truth is not in them read below. One such type has been falsely accusing me of all kinds of just plain crazy things, See the evidence and my answers to him below.
There is one poster that falsely attacks others and makes preposterous claims, see, <<"shes not well rational.she is sick.lol">>. He is just plain igronant misguided individual as this post of his proves on the "The Wonderful Thigs God (YHWH) Provides Us:" thread.
Now he has gone so wacko that he has even made this accusation against me, on yet another thread, <<”a sin is this iris.”>> as everyone knows I am a highly respectable person and not a sin, no one can be a sin, just look at the meaning of the word in any dictionary, thus anyone making such a false charge is both a liar and probably out of his mind.
Some posters attach others and post crazy nonsense, see the following example, "i told you everyone here knew i detsroyed you.i simply usedyour own sources your own book even jesus in your own book contradicting you and that wich you stateon here.give it up and move on.your ilogical nonsense has been exposed.had someone exposed me as you and your bull have been exposedi would run to other forums.pat robertson forums.lol nextttttttttttttt ">>. It is obvious from this post that he has a big problem and does NOT know how to converse with others, note he has the hateful arrogance to state, this is his words, <<"i detsroyed you">> which is the kind of talk a deranged individual uses.
On another thread he actually accused me of being sick, but as you can see this should actually be applied to him as shown by what he writes.
He gets a sadistic thrill apparently in attacking and being extremely insulting and nasty to others.
His claim of refuting others is like his false accusations, just plain false and crazy. Here is another crazy claim and also an unwarranted false attack on me that this individual posted on the “Monotheism - Inherently Intolerant?” thread, <<” iris are you that crazy you dont realize we all know you are sick?ive already showed you thru your own book that those who you say wrote what in it arent even the ones writting it.ive showed you the 5 books of moses are not written by moses but by a third person.the same with mathew and otehrs.yet you are saying these people are devinely inspired bygod.lol even the translators of your book admit they are mostly unknowns.parts of the bible that you are thinking are written by someone are actually written by otehrs,otehr then the ones you are acreditting the work to.lol how more bakwards can you get?oh yeah its no translation error.i can pin point that moses and mathew in bible are not written by them.wether its in english or greek.lol where can you run to now?nextttttttttttt”>>. It is plain to see from this that he is the actual sick one and not I as he falsely and uncivilly claims.
This same braggart of a writer shows his ignorance also in claiming that Moses wrote his own obituary with his stupid claim that overlooks the fact that Moses was the major writer or scribe used by God (YHWH) in the writing of the first five books of God’s (YHWH’s) word the Bible, but this poster is ignorant of the fact that there were also minor writers or scribes that only wrote small portions of books of the Bible. This was the case with Deuteronomy where a small part was written by minor writers or scribes, in this case Elizer the priest and Joshua, this being the so called obituary of Moses [source = “Insights Bible Dictionary”]. This was also the case, for example, with the first chapter of Isaiah, it was written by a minor scribe and NOT the major scribe, Isaiah, used by God (YHWH) to write most of Isaiah. Of course braggarts who are ignorant would NOT know this as they are too busy posting utter nonsense and ‘sick’ writings to be bothered with the facts. It is sad that I find it necessary to answer their foolishness with fact as they are nothing but sick individuals with a blotted opinion of self
Your Friend in Christ Iris89
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starjade
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(9/9/04 8:44 pm)
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Dont let life get you down. Do not take things as personal.
Well hello again iris i thought i would mention that i have got about halfway through the text that Kuffar (one who hides the truth) Shirker salaudinnynj has made as a twin text to you proclomations about Jesus being that prophet that God promised Moses he would raise up. Then after mentioning all these claims about How Muhammad was that prophet that God promised Moses he would raise up (cough) A matter he so far has not been ably to verify as being true. So he end his claims with that Prophecy is about Muhammad and not Jesus. Tsk tsk tsk......
p074.ezboard.com/fdesivoi...=494.topic
Anyway i thought i would give you another link to that page so you can pop in and check on the claims of these Muslims who are totally without any proof. Now the text of Muslims seem to be the supposition that Muhammad must be that prophet if they can prove that jesus is not. This is a foolish belief of course and a drowning straw for islam as i have not yet finished my reply which will bury Islam even further.
Oh hello by the way. 
It seems that Kuffar (one who hides the truth) Shirker salaudinnynj has gone shirking on a (cough) long political break. Unless he is waiting for me to finsish off my reply. Whichh is nearly done. And it staggers me on just how easy Islam has fallen. It is all just too easy to proven Mad Muhammad and the Koran are both frauds. 
With more to follow. 
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iris89
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(9/9/04 9:50 pm)
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Re: Dont let life get you down. Do not take things as perso
Hi Starjade
They do not provide any proofs since they can not for a lie. The fact is that Muhammad just borrowed from the Bible and distorted what he borrowed to glorify himself, but like all fraudulent works, they do NOT hold up to scrutiny.
Your Friend in Christ Iris89
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The Rational Guy
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(9/10/04 2:08 am)
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Re: Dont let life get you down. Do not take things as perso
No iris, you're wrong. Muhammad was a false muslim, true muslims would never do anything like that. False muslims distort Islam and make it look bad, just like false Christians do! 
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iris89
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(9/10/04 2:47 am)
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Re: Dont let life get you down. Do not take things as perso
Hi The Rational Guy
Your statement, <<"No iris, you're wrong. Muhammad was a false muslim, true muslims would never do anything like that. False muslims distort Islam and make it look bad, just like false Christians do!">> Sounds about right, but I prefer the term counterfeit Christians, but false Christians also fits.
Be sure to read my article:
The Explanation, Counterfeit Vs. Genuine Christians!, [3 post down on the True Christianity is all about love thread]
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Your Friend in Christ Iris89
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starjade
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(9/10/04 2:40 pm)
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You are so right Iris. Muslims are forbidden by their own religuious beliefs to debate wether Mad muhammad is a Prophet from God or not. In Islam that is not allowed which is why i have to invioke Islamic law whenever i speak with the Kuffar Muslims. When their religion is put under scrutiny it is clear they are building their Golden calf off the religious beliefs of other religions then saying that other religion is false and so you should follow theirs. It is very sad and i have come across such things often in Cyberspace whiles i have been having religious discussions about islam.
Mad Muhammad is proven to be a fraud and no Muslim on earth is in any position to defend his religion. Already that has been proven for a fact and it is a fact that Muhammad could not be proven to be that Prophet he claimed himself to be and it is a fact that islamic law and religious law shows that Muhammad is a liar and a fraud.
That is why the Muslims Shirk they know they cannot defend Islam. I could have told them that long ago in fact i probably did. The experts on Islam who taught me all about islam and Islamic laws did a good job and when i began to question the things that were said and claimed it became very clear then that they had no reply or explanation and they as Islamic experts knew they could not defend the claims they had made. This is why i already know that their Imams are unable to defend islam none of the religious leaders can defend Islam. And so they think they can win by Shirking away.
Now they do have a problem because i am not Salmon Rushdie and i can and do eat Muslims for breakfast and they dare not accuse me publically of any invented Blasphemy because accoprding to the religious law of Deuteronomy Ch 19 v 15 i am not guilty of and iniquity and Sin. But they certainly are. Islam certainly has fallen at my feet and is defenceless against my revelations.
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iris89
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(9/10/04 3:39 pm)
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Hi Starjade
Thanks, some do not recognize that I know what I am talking about. Why? Because they can not differentiate between facts and evidence and their own opinion.
Your Friend in Christ Iris89
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starjade
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(9/10/04 4:35 pm)
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I have heard you speak before Iris and i do know that you are very knowledgable on many religious matters, especially as a phenominal expert on the Christians religion. And i know you have knowledge of other religions as well. Clearly though others from other relions are bound to have conflicting ideas. They have no call to be rude in their replies but when they are that just shows you got your point across and that is how they reacted to that news. it is best not to take such things to heart at a personal level.
In the twin thread where the Kuffar (one who hides the truth) salaudinnynj claims that he has produced some evidence that proves that his idol the self apponted prophet of Islam Mad Muhammad was in fact that prophet that God promised Moses eh would raise up.
p074.ezboard.com/fdesivoi...=494.topic
So far i have not seen any real or actual evidence and all that has been shown so far proves Mad Muahmmad is a fraud. Now salaudinnynj has run out of ideas and so he has begun blabberwocking out about the Christians beliefs in Jesus and talking about John the baptist in some bazzar claim that this Christian text will help Islam prove that muhammad was that prophet that God promised Moses he would raise up.
It is so daft really for Islam to make such claims about Muhammad being that Prophet that God promised Moses he would raise up by pointing out that is who Jesus has claimed himself to be and then narrating the Christian text as if that somehow will lead to authenticating Muhammad as being that very prophet that God promised Moses he would raise up.
I was expecting a text about Muhammad not about Jesus. But i suppose it is a custard pie in the face of islam to have to point out that jesus has claimed that he is that prophet that god promised Moses he would raise up. And then for them Muslims to then claim that Muhammad their idol is that prophet instead. Well i am trying to be tactful as the thread is about Mad Muhammad and not about jesus. It is Mad Muhammad who is the one on trial. Already i can say that Islam is going to fall in those arguments. Too easily in fact.
It is as well that those followers of Islam who do not know me soon learn that i am someone who is in a position of authority to speak. They would not be the wise to accuse me of Blasphemy regarding the statements i am making about their religion and their beliefs. Poor ole salaudinnynj he must be feeling a little sick after my Revelations.
Edited by: starjade at: 9/10/04 4:39 pm
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iris89
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(9/10/04 4:39 pm)
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Hi Starjade
It is good that we have you, an expert on the Quran, on the forum.
Your Friend in Christ Iris89
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starjade
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(9/10/04 4:48 pm)
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Aw shucks  It is not that i am a religious expert on any religion really it is just that i am a religious authority on all religions.
Those islamic experts who taught me all about the religion of Islam certainly taught me well. And more so it seems than their Imams. And the surprise of that is i had told them and proved to those Islamic experts exactly who i could prove myself to be. yet with that knowledge in mind they still taught me all about islam. And in return i gave them startling Revelations.
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starjade
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(9/13/04 3:28 pm)
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Well Iris i have had a look at the claims of those Muslims from that golden calf religion Islam. I found that they did not actually have any evidence to back up their claims that Moses had been writing about their self appointed Prophet Mad Muhammad. In fact the evidence shows that Muhammad is proven to be a Liar and a fraud. Then after all that discussioning those Muslims all shirked away and have not been heard of since. I think those followers of the Golden calf of Islam have buried their heads in the sand along with Bruce Evans Murch.
So panic not Islam has no claim at all regarding their self appointed Prophet. It is all Just blabberwocking by Muslims who are intent on promoting a lie as their religion. They have proven that Muhammad is not that Prophet that God promised Moses he would raise up But then why should we be so surprised. Now i think that the shirker salaudinnynjSalidbowl has hidden away in a shirk. Islam is defenceless and could not back its mouth up.  All hail to the Lord King Starjade,
Edited by: starjade at: 9/13/04 3:29 pm
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starjade
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(9/16/04 4:56 pm)
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Starjade proved Muhammad was a fraud:
I noted that salaudinnynj has not come forwards to respond or dispute those errors i have named in the Koran Iris. I think he has shirked after all the bragging he was doing.
That is clear proof that he went out and found that those errors i spoke of did exist in the Koran and so he is having a spiritual problem as he deals with that Revelation.
He tried to Mimic this thread of your about the Christian claims and about Jesus. The Muslims have a similar belief about Muhammad and salaudinnynj must have believed that this would be evidence or proof that his religious beliefs must be real. Now after all of his bragging he has gone notible silent. In the Islamic world they call that Shirking.
I noticed in salaudinnynj writings that he spent most of his time glorifying Jesus as being that prophet that Jesus claimed himself to be which as you and i both know (but Islam did not?) that the Prophet that Jesus claimed himself to be was that very prophet that God promised Moses he would raise up and you have shown those Christian claims openly.
But In salaudinnynj claims about Islam he actually told lies for the sake of convincing us of his religios beliefs tsk tsk tsk... He even described the angel gabriel as being an Arch Angel. Which is a common error amongst those influenced by Roman Christian beliefs.
What salaudinnynj did not do is provide any proof that could prove that muhammad was that prophet that he has claimed himself to be. Which of course is that same exact Prophet that Jesus is claimed as being.
So despite the Claims of Muslims they could not back up their mouths and nor ever can they prove their silly claims about Mad Muhammad being that prophet that Jesus is claimed as being. Now they hide away from me afraid of such depth to a religious discussion. There is no proof or evidence to muhammad he is just yet another pretender to that claim of being that Prophet that the Living God promised Moses he would raise up. And once again islam has bitten the dust.
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Muhammad thinks he is Jesus.
