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SPEAKS THROUGH HUMANS, SCRIPTURE, & DIRECTLY

The following documentation proves that The Holy Spirit SPEAKS with intellect, will, & emotion.

This is just one of various tests that establish that the Scriptures unite to show The Holy Spirit is a PERSON or BEING.


"While some texts refer to the spirit as 'witnessing,' 'speaking,' 'saying' things,
other texts make clear that
IT spoke through persons, having NO PERSONAL VOICE OF ITS OWN."
[Insight p.1020, & Aid p.1543]

Please compare the above WT quote with what GOD's WORD ACTUALLY SAYS !!!

The Holy Spirit speaks through HUMANS !
But when they are leading you along to deliver you up, do not be anxious beforehand about what to SPEAK (lalesete = you should speak); but whatever is given you in that hour, SPEAK (laleite - be you speaking) this, for you are NOT the ones SPEAKING (lalountes = speaking), but THE SPIRIT THE HOLY IS. Mk.13:11
But when they bring you in before public assemblies & government officials & authorities, do not become anxious about how or what you will SPEAK in defense or what you will SAY; for THE HOLY SPIRIT will TEACH you in that very hour things you should SAY. Lk.12:12
But through THE SPIRIT they repeatedly TOLD Paul not to set foot in Jerusalem. Acts 21:4
... a certain prophet named Agabus came down from Judea, & he took up the girdle of Paul, bound his own feet & hands & said: "Thus SAYS (legei = is saying) THE SPIRIT THE HOLY, 'The man to whom this girdle belongs the Jews will bind in this manner in Jerusalem & deliver into the hands of the people of the nations.' " Acts 21:10,11
Demon pneuma spirits ALSO speak through humans.
(Does that mean they have "no personal voice"?)
Now in the synagogue there was A MAN with a spirit, an unclean demon, & HE shouted with a LOUD VOICE: "Ah! What have WE to do with you, Jesus you Nazarene? Did you come to destroy US? I know exactly who you are, the Holy One of God." But Jesus rebuked IT, saying: "Be silent, & come on out of HIM!" So, after throwing the MAN down in their midst, THE DEMON came out of HIM without hurting HIM. At this... they began to converse with one another, SAYING: "What sort of speech is this, because with authority & power he orders THE UNCLEAN SPIRITS, & out THEY come?" Lk.4:33-36

The demons in the above verse are identified as a "spirit" (no Greek definite article "the"); as an "unclean demon" (no def. art.); as an "IT"; as "The demon" (1 def. art.); & as "The unclean spirits" (1 def. art.).
Did the demons speak THROUGH the man, or did IT speak directly, or BOTH?
More importantly, how can the WT teach that wicked, unholy demon spirits are "BEINGS"
but
THE SPIRIT THE HOLY is not ?!?

Here is awesome NEWS for JWs.

The Holy Spirit speaks DIRECTLY!
I have many things yet to SAY (legein = to be saying) to you, but you are not able to bear them at present. However, when THAT ONE arrives, THE SPIRIT of THE TRUTH, He will GUIDE you into all the truth, for He will NOT SPEAK (lalesei = he will speak) of His own INITIATIVE, but what things HE HEARS HE will SPEAK (lalesei = he will speak), & HE will DECLARE (anangelei = he will announce/declare) to you the THINGS COMING. THAT ONE will glorify Me, because HE will receive from what is Mine & will DECLARE (anangelei = he will announce/declare) it to you. All the things that the Father has are Mine. That is why I said HE receives from what is Mine & DECLARES (anangelei = he will announce/declare) [it] to you. Jn.16:12-15

[ If THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH is part of Jehovah, why does IT have to RECEIVE ANYTHING --
seeing that JEHOVAH has ALL THINGS in the first place??? ]

But THE SPIRIT SAID (eipen = said) TO Philip: "Approach & join yourself to this chariot." Acts 8:29
As Peter was going over in his mind about the vision THE SPIRIT SAID (eipen = said): "Look! Three men are seeking you. However, rise, go downstairs & be on your way with them, not doubting at all, because I (ego = I) have dispatched them." So Peter went downstairs to the men & SAID (eipen = said): "Look! I (ego = I) am the one you are seeking. Acts 10:19-21

(The Spirit & Peter both SAID "LOOK!", etc., -- Why is the 1st speaker a force, & the other, a person?)

I also heard a VOICE SAY to me, "RISE, Peter, slaughter & eat!" (verse 7)

But I SAID, "Not at all, LORD...." (verse 8)

The second time THE VOICE FROM HEAVEN answered, "You stop calling...." (verse 9)

But THE SPIRIT SAID (eipen = said) TO ME to go with them, not doubting at all. (verse 12) Acts 11:7-9,12

except that from city to city THE SPIRIT THE HOLY repeatedly BEARS WITNESS to me SAYING (legon = saying) that bonds & tribulations are waiting for me. Acts 20:23
... a certain prophet named Agabus came down from Judea, & he took up the girdle of Paul, bound his own feet & hands & said: "Thus SAYS (legei = is saying) THE SPIRIT THE HOLY, 'The man to whom this girdle belongs the Jews will bind in this manner in Jerusalem & deliver into the hands of the people of the nations.' " Acts 21:10,11
THE SPIRIT THE WICKED SAID

TO THEM: "I know Jesus... but who are you?" Acts 19:15

Compare the Scriptures on the left & right.
What's the difference???

Why accept a Demon Pneuma as a Being,
but reject
The Holy Pneuma as a Being?!?

SAID THE SPIRIT THE HOLY:

"Of all persons set Barnabus & Saul apart for ME for the work to which I have called them." Acts 13:2

Also, at that immediate time there was in their synagogue A MAN in spirit unclean, & HE shouted, saying: "What have WE to do with you, Jesus you Nazarene? Did you come to destroy US? I know exactly who you are, the Holy One of God." But Jesus rebuked IT, saying: "Be silent, & come on out of HIM!" And THE SPIRIT THE UNCLEAN, after throwing HIM into a convulsion & YELLING at the top of ITS VOICE, came on out of HIM. Well, the people were... saying: "He authoritatively orders even THE SPIRITS THE UNCLEAN, & THEY obey Him." Mk.1:23-27 [Like HOLY pneuma, demon pneuma can ALSO speak through a human (v.23-25) or speak directly (v.26).]
In like manner THE SPIRIT also joins in with help for our weakness; for the [problem of] what we should pray for as we need to we do not know, but THE SPIRIT itself PLEADS FOR US with groanings unuttered. Yet he who searches the hearts knows what the MIND of THE SPIRIT is, because it is PLEADING in accord with God for holy ones.... CHRIST JESUS is the one... who ALSO PLEADS FOR US. Rom.8:26,27,34
KI - But THE SPIRIT SPOKENLY IS SAYING... 1Tim.4:1
I heard a voice out of heaven SAY: "Write: Happy are the dead who die IN [the] Lord from this time onward. YES, IS SAYING THE SPIRIT, let them rest from their labors, for the things they did go right with them." Rev.14:13
THE SPIRIT & THE BRIDE ARE SAYING: "Come!" And let ANYONE HEARING SAY: "Come!" Rev.22:17

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The Holy Spirit speaks through SCRIPTURE !
BY THE SPIRIT THE HOLY David himself said, "Lord said to my Lord: 'Sit at my right hand until I put your enemies beneath your feet.' " Mk.12:36 compare with Psalm 110:1
But Peter stood up... & raised his voice... "Men of Judea... let this be known to you & give ear to my sayings. These [people] are, in fact, not drunk as you suppose... on the contrary, this is what was SAID THROUGH the prophet Joel, 'And in the last day,' God SAYS, 'I shall pour out my spirit... & your sons & your daughters will prophesy....' " Acts 1:14-20 compare with Psalm 41:9, 69:25, 109:8
he explained the matter to them by bearing thorough witness concerning the kingdom of God & by using persuasion with them concerning Jesus from both the Law of Moses & the Prophets, from morning till evening. And some began to believe the things said; others would not believe. So, because they were at disagreement with one another, they began to depart, while Paul made this one comment: "THE SPIRIT THE HOLY APTLY SPOKE THROUGH ISAIAH the prophet to your forefathers, saying, 'Go to this people & say: "By hearing, you will hear but by no means understand; &, looking, you will look but by no means see. For the heart of this people has grown unreceptive , & with their ears they have heard without response, & they have shut their eyes; that they should never see with their eyes & hear with their ears & understand with their heart & turn back, & I should heal them." ' " (Acts 28:23-27) I pray that these verses never apply to me (or you). compare with Isaiah 6:9,10
For this reason, just as THE SPIRIT THE HOLY SAYS: "Today if you people listen to his own voice, do not harden your hearts...." Heb.3:7,8, etc. compare with Psalm 95:7-11
Moreover, THE SPIRIT THE HOLY ALSO BEARS WITNESS to us, for AFTER IT HAS SAID: " 'This is the covenant that I shall covenant toward them after those days, says Jehovah. 'I will put my laws in their hearts, & in their minds I shall write them.' " IT SAYS AFTERWARDS: "And I shall by no means call their sins & their lawless deeds to mind any more.' " Heb.10:15-17 compare with Jer.31:33,34
"Thus THE Spirit THE Holy makes it plain..." (Heb.9:8) that HE is Scripture's Author!!!

RESEARCH about: " THE > SPIRIT -- THE > HOLY (ONE) "
Is "The Holy Spirit" a FORCE, or a Sentient BEING -- or BOTH ?

The Watch Tower Bible & Tract Society's view on "The Holy Spirit"
deviates dramatically from the over-whelming majority of Bible-believing Christians, scholars, & researchers.
WT dictionaries contain the following very brazen & shocking statement that summarizes their view
& executes THE SPIRIT THE HOLY ONE !!!.

" The Scriptures themselves unite to show that
God's HOLY SPIRIT is NOT a
PERSON
but is God's active FORCE

by which he accomplishes his purpose and executes his will
."

Insight p.1019, & Aid p.1543 ~ INSIGHT On The Scriptures (1988) is the updated version of AID To Bible Understanding (1971)

WOW !!! ~ IF The Holy Spirit is just a force, then I (& any truth-seeker)
would be compelled by intellectual honesty & integrity, to abandon belief in the Trinity & become a JW !!!
An honest, careful, thorough comparison of WT opinion with Scriptural evidence, shows there is no need to accept WT conclusions.

I don't view my work as a THEOLOGICAL DEBATE. There's no prize for the winner.
This research is to help JWs think about their eternal destiny -- it's about you & God, not about me.
If WT teaching is wrong, you are picking a fight with the most AWESOME BEING in the universe!
The Holy Spirit has emotion (intellect & will) & can be INSULTED & OUTRAGED !!!
Heb.10:26-31 warns:
For if we practice sin willfully {or stubbornly, or mindlessly, or blindly, or foolishly} after having received the accurate knowledge of the truth, there is no longer any sacrifice for sins left, 27 but [there is] a certain fearful expectation of judgment & [there is] a fiery jealousy that is going to consume those in opposition. 28 Any man that has disregarded the law of Moses dies without compassion, upon the testimony of two or three. 29 Of how much more severe a punishment, do YOU think, will the man be counted worthy who has trampled upon the Son of God & who has esteemed as of ordinary value the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, & who has OUTRAGED THE SPIRIT of undeserved kindness with contempt? 30 For we know him that said: "Vengeance is mine; I will recompense"; & again: "Jehovah will judge his people." 31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of [the] living God.
According to WT opinion:
  • only God the Father is Jehovah
  • The (Paraclete) Holy Spirit = God's Active Force
  • Jesus is a sub-God (a.k.a Michael the archangel).
  • According to Scripture:
  • Jesus is our Paraclete (Lawyer / Advocate) ~ 1Jn.2:1
  • The Holy Spirit is also our Paraclete ~ Jn.14:16,26; 15:26; 16:27

  • (Greek allos = another of the same kind -- not different-kind-heteros).

    Therefore:
  • God The Father -- as the Active Force PARACLETE -- is same as Jesus, & must be demoted to the archangel level.


  • Or, God The (Paraclete) Son must be elevated to equality with God The Father.
  • And God The Spirit -- as same as Jesus PARACLETE -- must be promoted to equal Personhood & Godhood !!!
  • In other words, The Trinity is alive & well.
    Like the atheist who doesn't believe in God, JWs are in for a shock when they meet THE SPIRIT THE HOLY Paraclete-Lawyer-Advocate.

    Because of deliberate, consistent, repeated, systematic emphasis, programming & reinforcement
    (a.k.a. re-education, conditioning, mind control, thought reform, brain washing),
    JWs automatically equate & substitute the Bible expression
    "The Holy Spirit" with the WT's phrase "Active Force",
    e
    ven though
    the "Active Force" phrase is a MISTRANSLATION & found only ONCE in their own Bible!!! See the NWT at Gen.1:2.

    Click here for more detail, & the WT's 28 Meanings / Senses / Interpretation-opinions for "ruach" & "pneuma" ( spirit ).


    SCRIPTURE distinguishes between:
  • The Awesome PERSON & the awesome POWER of The Holy Spirit (throughout Scripture)

  • The GIVER & the GIFT -- in Acts 2:4 for example:
    "...they all became filled with HOLY SPIRIT & started to speak with different tongues,
    just as
    THE SPIRIT
    was GRANTING them to make utterance".
    So obviously "pneuma" is not POWER-only or PERSON-only.
    The truth is that HE is an Awesome PERSON
    AND demonstrates HIS Awesome POWER.

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    WT Basis for "FORCE" Concept

    My Response

     

    Scripture Basis for "PERSON" Concept

    A Absent Greek Definite Article 'the' Fact, BUT... A1 Comparison Chart: - DEMON pneuma (spirit)
    A2 Demon-Pneuma-Spirits are Sentient Beings
    A3 ABSENT Greek 'the' = Awesome POWER
    A4 PRESENT Greek 'the' = Awesome PERSON
    B Pneuma = Neuter Gender noun Fact, BUT... B1 Greek Nouns & Pronouns prove Awesome Person
    C holy spirit Associated with Impersonal Things Fact, BUT... C1 EMOTION = Personality
    C2 INTELLECT = Personality
    C3 WILL = Personality
    D The Holy Spirit has NO Personal Voice F A L S E D1 SPEAKS DIRECTLY & via Humans & Scripture
    E The Holy Spirit has NO Personal Name Unknown,
    but so what?
    E1 Names / Titles of The Holy Spirit
    E2 Testimony of Jesus (GOD-THE-WORD)
    F A 'Person' only because of Personification WT's FAULTY
    conclusion CONTRADICTS
    a host of
    "inconvenient" Scriptures
    F1 Testimony of the Whole NT
    F2 Comparison Chart: - PARACLETE (Advocate)
    F3 Awesome Scriptural Warnings
    F4 Greek Facts / Scholarship
    F5 Does the WT Misquote Scholars ?
    F6 Convincing Evidence (& "Michael")
    Click here for Kingdom Interlinear ~ Definite Article chart to see the various spellings of the neuter gender "the".

    Click here to Search a Greek Interlinear NT
    (Good info in "Tips".)
    Under "Online Bible Search" enter "spirit" beside "Search For ".
    Under "Version(s) " scroll down to "Greek Texts" & click on the next entry.
    Go back to "Search For:" box & click "Search:".

    You will be able to see (in the Greek text) when the definite article "the" is Absent (A3) or Present (A4) before or after "pneuma".
    For verses with TWO definite articles see Acts 1:16; 5:3,32; 7:51; 13:2; 20:23,28; 21:11; Heb.3:7; 9:8.
    (For more verses with double articles, click A1 above & see box 5 in all 3 columns.)

    Click here to Search a Greek NT. ~ Enter "pneuma" beside "Search" & click "GO" (top right).
    Click here for MULTIPLE Greek (& other) Bible CHOICES.

    Chart of interesting LINKS & other RESEARCH

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