February 2, 2007
Roy
You are certainly right in your essay.
I would quibble with Jesus claiming to be God. If you look at what He said, Jesus always said that He was a son of man. He never said He was God. That was an idea that was sufficiently controversial at the Council of Nicaea that it was put to a vote.
Jesus was executed for treason on several grounds. First, He was a prophet and the Messiah of God, and the God of the Hebrews was not in the official Roman pantheon. So Jesus represented a foreign god to the Romans. Second, Jesus was crucified under the label "Here is the King of the Jews" to show that Roman authority recognized no such kingship. Third, Caesar was regarded as a god by the Romans, and Jesus would not worship Caesar as a god.
As to the important word of Jesus (rather than Paul) it is clear that we are to render unto Caesar only that which is due unto Caesar, and nothing more. We are, Jesus taught, to render unto God what is due unto God. Clearly, the base metal coin with a gold coating which would have been the likely coin for Jesus to hold up in giving this instruction was a sign of fiat money inflation - the debasement of metal currency is always a sign of corrupt government.
In my view, part of the message Jesus was sending to those who could understand (in His time and later) was to render unto Caesar the debased coinage that Caesar creates. Pay taxes in debased coins. But render unto God the true coin, the real value, of your soul. Give yourself heart, mind, and soul to God, in paying what is due unto God. That is the true coin.
In recognizing this matter. Byzantines never debased their gold solidus from AD 480 to 1483. The great Islamic Caliphate never debased the gold dinar from AD 650 to AD 1280 when they were conquered by the Mongols. To this day, some in Islam recognize that alms (zakat) are to be paid in gold or silver coin and not in paper. (You may know that the Koran says that Jesus was the Messiah.)
Regards,
Jim
You're correct that many well-meaning, but ignorant Christians believe they must obey their leaders without question. But our Constitutional Republic is one of laws, not men, and the Scripture repeatedly admonishes us NOT to be "respecters of persons". It is to be assumed that we are only subject to governing authorities as they operate as public servants being subject to"the Supreme Law of the Land" (Article VI, Section 1-3) to which they take an oath. Re: taking an oath the Scripture says:
"If a man vow a vow unto the LORD, or swear an oath to bind his soul with a bond; he shall not break his word, he shall do according to all that proceedeth out of his mouth.--Numbers 30:2
The lack of a law, pursuant to the Constitution, requiring the payment of a direct tax, is a clear violation of their Constitutional oath and those with the courage and fortitude to stand up for the rest of us to resisit that, is obedience to God rather than men.
"Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God" , said Thomas Jefferson. I think he probably paraphrased or borrowed that from William Tyndale who said, "Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God" and Tynadale, as you probably know, was executed by the political-religious establishment of his time for having the disobedience and audacious courage to translate and publish the Bible for the people.
Ron
You have addressed it well here. I'll forward this on to those who continue to advocate complete submission to tryants.
I too see the day coming when the line will be drawn in the sand for we must obey God rather than men. We can't have it both ways.
May the Lord guide us in the perilous times ahead.
Have a blessed day in the Lord.
Michael
Excellent piece! I think it is easier to understand what Jesus meant when He said, "Render unto Caesar...." when we understand that everything belongs to God the Father and in reality, nothing belongs to any of us! All things are truly gifts from God the father and the Son Jesus Christ!
Here's a couple of things I thought of reading your piece:
1) The D of I is a document that contains quite a bit of "Deist" and "Pantheistic" language which, as we historically know, was written by Freemasons. Many, if not most of the signers were part of this wholly secretive society.
2) King Darius was tricked into placing Daniel in the Lions den. Daniel did not specifically deny him as much as the false decree that those administrators "conned" King Darius into signing. He was duped hence the awful judgment and punishment those administrators and their families faced.
3) If we were to be completely obedient and subservient to "every" whim of government, including having our income taxed 100 percent, how would it be possible for any of us to return to God our 10% token (tithe) that He requires us to return to Him? However, I'm not much of a mind that we have the absolute right to "fight" back against our attackers as much as to lead by the example we were given by the man and our God, Jesus Christ.
In Liberty,
May the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you always.
David
Interesting email.
I have some personal experience in this matter if you are interested.
In the early '90's I submitted genuine, certified, legal correspondence to the Internal Revenue Tax and Audit Service, Inc. (IRS). In this I legally revocated every signature on every form I had submitted to them in my lifetime, and then legally challenged their authority and jurisdiction under constitutional law and the Internal Revenue Code. I was very specific and very courteous, allowing them all the legally required time to respond. They defaulted. They did not answer any specific point in regards to their authority and jurisdiction. They did not even respond by certified or registered mail.
I could say many things about this, but I will make one important point.
IN ALL THE INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE SYSTEMS A PERSON IS LEGALLY COMPELLED TO IDENTIFY HIMSELF WITH THE "SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER" ON PENALTY OF PERJURY.
When someone does this, they waive any and all assumption of Constitutional life, liberty, and property. Now, after all my experience with this I have an honest opinion to offer.
The problem is the genuine Christian church has agreed with the government's definition of the church and failed to agree with GOD'S definition of His church. The government has decided to compel Christian churches with the status of a man-made artificial entity, legally defined as a "501(c)3 non-profit organization". And the Christian church doesn't seem to know any better.
Whether someone wants to fight 'income taxation' is not the real problem. The problem is DENYING THE TRUTH THAT IS GOD'S WORD. Some use a ss#, some don't. But the real authority in my life is God's Word, not any legal document created by man, whether it's the Bill of Rights, the Constitution, the Internal Revenue Code, the Magna Charta, the Declaration of Proclamation, etc. I know that according to the Constitution I have God-given life, liberty and property, and the government has usurped that. But the government also usurped human life beginning at conception and legalized abortion. So, the problem is between man's government and the true and living Word of God.
Sincerely in Christ,
Steve
What did you think of the Mises video, "Money, Banking and the Federal Reserve?"
Bryan
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