| Question Concerning The Old West |
| Below are some questions that people have asked about the Old West. If You have a question about a Gunfighter, Lawman, or just where to find information, drop me a line and I'll try to answer it as soon as possible and post it here. The Rebel |
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| What was the date and what day of the week was Billy the Kid killed? B.J.. |
| Around midnight July 14, 1881 at Pete Maxwell's house Pat Garrett fired two shots, one hitting Billy in the heart and one shot missing. Some people say that Pete was present when Billy was shot and had set him up, while others say that Garrett was alone in Pete's bedroom when Billy came in looking for Maxwell. And I almost forgot that it was on a Thursday if I'm not mistaken. The Rebel |
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| Do you think that Johnny Ringo comitted suicide or was killed by the Earps? Ken |
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| I personely think that Ringo did in fact kill himself. If Wyatt Earp or Doc. Holliday had shot him, I think they they would have just left him laying where he was shot instead of going to the trouble of trying to make it look like suicide. Ringo was a heavy drinker and the fact that he witnessed his father's death may have played a part in his death. The Rebel |
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| Do you believe that Brushy Bill Roberts was the real Billy the Kid? Rod |
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| I just can't bring myself to believe that this man was Billy the Kid, but if you want to read a little about him go here. A site with lots of info on The Rebel |
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| What happened to Doc. Holliday's pistols or where are they? Brad |
| This is a question that I wish I knew. Its been said that a doctor who was tending Doc. when he died took the guns but no one really knows for sure. Doc's shotgun was auctioned in May 1999 for 220.000 dollars and a wiskey flask belonging to Doc. on June 10th for 130,000 dollars to a wealthy Houston man. Somewhere out there if found these guns would be worth a fortune. Just think somewhere out there in an old trunk these guns are waiting to be found. The Rebel |
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| I'm trying to find information on Tom Horn. He was the first man known to be able to kill a man at 300 yards. Years ago there was a movie about him. He was hung for a murder that to his death he claimed he never committed. I'm not sure what state he was in but I think it might of been Texas. Any clues how to track down information Thanks Dale |
| Tom Horn was born on Nov 21, 1860. He was hung in Cheyenne, Wyoming in 1903 for a murder of a 14 year old boy. His guilt/innocence is still controversial, and its said that the mention of his guilt can start fights even today. He is buried in Boulder, Colorado - in the old Olympia Pioneer Cemetery. The movie about Tom Horn starred Steve McQueen and Linda Evens and I believe it was made in 1980. There are a few articles about Tom Horn on the Internet and the next few weeks I'll be adding a page or two to my site about Tom. In the mean time here is a couple of sites that you might be interested in. The Rebel |
| Do you think that Billy The Kid was buried in New Mexico or Hico Texas? D.H. I think a man named Brushy Bill Roberts, is buried in Hamilton, Texas Approximately 20 miles south of Hico. Contrary to popular belief, Roberts is not buried in Hico. Billy is buried in New Mexico, where he was shot and killed by Pat Garrett. The Kid could not have escaped that night without every one in the area knowing about it. There were to many people involved and I personally don't think that Billy would have left the area and disappeared for all those years without coming back to see his friends. Another thing that's interesting about Brushy Bill, Is his old grave marker says that his name was Ollie L. Roberts, born on 12/31/1868. Later the old stone was replaced by a new one that says he was born in 1859 to match Billy's birth date. You can view his grave here: The Rebel |
| I have one question and want a little information. First, one of my relatives was an outlaw named Bud Seachrist, not exactly sure of the spelling. Do you anything about him? Also, as I understand it, Joaquin Murieta never existed, but was a creation of some writer. Thanks, like your site. Jerry |
| Joaquin Murieta was born in Sonora, Mexico and as a young man, moved to California, where he worked in the mines. Later he moved again to Murphy's Diggings, where he worked mining and at a gambling hall. Legend has it Murieta’s outlaw career began about 1850, when it was said his brother was beaten and killed for a crime that he may or may not have committed. Murieta swore vengeance against those who killed him, and later men that were involved started showing up dead. (No one really knows if this is true or not.) But facts are on May 11, 1853, California Governor John Bigler signed a legislative act authorizing the organization of a band of California Rangers under the command of Captain Harry Love. Their purpose, to capture or kill a "party or gang of robbers commanded by the five Joaquins," specified as Joaquin Botellier, Joaquin Carrillo, Joaquin Murieta, Joaquin Ocomorenia, and Joaquin Valenzuela. These men were believed to be responsible for the majority of all cattle rustling, robberies, and murders perpetrated in the Mother Lode region of California since 1850. July of 1853, Love's rangers came across a group of Mexican men near Panache Pass in San Benito County. A gun fight ensued and two Mexicans were killed. The rangers cut off the hand of one (Three Fingered Jack) and the head of the other, ( Supposedly Murieta) and placed them in jars of alcohol to preserve them. Despite the fact that no positive identification was ever made. The governor paid a reward of $1000 to Captain Love, and the matter was considered settled. Later, for some reason, the legislature approved an additional $5000 bonus to be paid to Love. Some bonus $5,000 in 1853 wasn't it? There's been many books written about Murieta most fiction and no facts. But he was in fact a real bandit and was probably killed by Love since he wasn't heard from again. It was said that Murieta's head was carried around the state and displayed whether true or not I'm not sure. If anyone has any information on this man, Bud Seachrist, please send me an Email |
| You really have a great site, with lots of detailed information....I am very impressed. My question is: Have you ever run across any information on a man called "Shotgun Collins"? I have seen his name in print only twice, once in connection with Wyatt Earp, whom he evidently assisted in some way. I have done a lot of looking, but haven't had any luck. The name kind of intrigues me, and I'd like to know more about him. Tom |
| Glad you enjoyed my site. I'm constantly updating it so check back later and I might have something on Collins. As of now, the only thing I know is he was a Wells, Fargo messenger and obtained his name from the weapon he carried, a sawed-off 12 gage shotgun. Collins was said to have killed two men in Arizona and two in Montana but little else is known about him. He was a friend of Wyatt Earp, Doc. Holliday, Bat Masterson and Luke Short. He was mentioned to have come to the aid of Luke Short in Kansas City around 1883 when Luke was in a feud with business rivals in Dodge City. If I find anythins else on him I'll send it to you. The Rebel |