Kit Withers' GENEALOGY Home Page
http://www.oocities.org/Heartland/Village/2123/genealogy.html Last updated 10.10.2008 Email me at kitw"att"slingshot.co.nz (I write a"att"b for a@b to foil spammers.) Or contact via 101 Allington Road, Karori, Wellington 6012, New Zealand phone +64 4 476 9554 The size of the files below in mgb (megabytes) is usually out of date. My main family trees are for descendants of the following families.AMOR of Wiltsire at http://www.oocities.org/Heartland/Village/2123/amor/amor.html
BAILEY of Bishops Cannings, Wilts at http://www.oocities.org/keeto111/bailey/bailey.html
BEDFORD OF PORTSMOUTH, HAMPSHIRE http://www.oocities.org/kit_withers/bedford/bedford.html
CHILTON of Whitchurch, Somerset c1717-1788;
CHOULES (Ramsbury,Wiltshire 1738-72; .2 mgb), http://www.oocities.org/Heartland/Village/2123/choules/choules.html
CLAY at http://www.oocities.org/kitwnz/clay/clay.html (Kidderminster,Worcester 1752, Kent 1800; .2 mgb)
CLEVERLEY CLUES FOR WILTSHIRE: c1636-present at http://www.oocities.org/Heartland/Village/2123/cleverly/cleverly.html (Kidderminster,Worcester 1752, Kent 1800; .2 mgb)
DEACON -also ANTRAM & BEDFORD (Portsmouth,Hampshire 1691-present; 0.1 mgb),
COLSTON families of Bristol & Somerset; formerly 14. of russell.html below,
DEANS - a branch of WHITSON (Scotland to Canada,NZ,US 1827 to present),
DERRICK (Somerset 1774; .1 mgb at http://www.oocities.org/kitwnz/derrick/derrick.html),
GRIFFITHS (Whitstable, Kent 1752; 45 kb at http://www.oocities.org/kitwnz/griffiths/griffiths.html),
HALL at http://www.oocities.org/kitpaku/hall/hall.html (Upperthorpe,Sheffield,Yorkshire c1800; .1 mgb),
HARDWICK (Somerset 1733-1851) http://www.oocities.org/kitwnz/hardwick/hardwick.html .2 mgb
WADE (Somerset 1726-1746)
HARFORD at http://www.oocities.org/kitwnz/harford/harford.html (Faversham,Kent 1834-c1900; 0.1 mgb)
HILLIER of Bishops Cannings, Wilts at http://www.oocities.org/keeto111/hillier/hillier.html
HOPKINS at http://www.oocities.org/Heartland/Village/2123/hopkins/hopkins.html (Lambourn, Berkshire c1650-1813; .1 mgb);
IDDENDEN at http://www.oocities.org/kitwnz/iddenden/iddenden.html (Whitstable, Kent c1684 - present; .2 mgb),
JUDSON (Portsmouth,Hampshire 1670-1794), is at http://www.oocities.org/kit_withers/judson/judson.html
KING (Bishops Cannings,Wiltshire 1500-1900; .1 mgb http://www.oocities.org/Heartland/Village/2123/king/king.html
LAWSON at http://www.oocities.org/kitwnz/lawson/lawson.html (Whitstable,Kent c1728 - present ; .1 mgb)
LIDDIARD at http://www.oocities.org/Heartland/Village/2123/liddiard/liddiard.html (Aldbourne,Wiltshire c1620-present; 0.4 mgb)
with a much briefer 8 generation version at LIDDIARD - a brief version (Aldbourne,Wiltshire c1620-present; c90 kbytes)
MALONE (Rushey Greene, Kent & New Zealand; 35 kbytes)
MARSH at http://www.oocities.org/kitwnz/marsh/marsh.html (Harbledown, Kent 1708-1773; .1 mgb)
NASH (Bishops Cannings,Wiltshire 1502-1867; .1 mgb) http://www.oocities.org/Heartland/Village/2123/nash/nash.html
NEWBOLD at http://www.oocities.org/kitpaku/newbold/newbold.html of East Drayton, Notts. 1776-1835; .1 mgb. This page also contains BYRON of East Drayton, Notts. 1664-1842.
NEWTON at http://www.oocities.org/Heartland/Village/2123/newton/newton.html (Pangbourne, Oxfordshire 1807-1870),(23 kbytes)
br> PALMER at http://www.oocities.org/Heartland/Village/2123/palmer/palmer.html (East Garston, Berkshire 1709-1839),
PALMER (Eastbury, Berkshire 1755-1812) (20 kbytes);
PASLEY at http://www.oocities.org/kitpaku/pasley/pasley.html (London, Sheffield & Nottinghamshire 1800-present; 25 kbytes);
PETTET at http://www.oocities.org/kit_withers/pettet/pettet.html (Deal & Folkestone,Kent 1632-present; 0.2 mgbytes);
This includes our CLAYTON, CUMER, SALTER, TREVILLION families of Deal, Kent.
PYLE (Bishops Cannings, Wiltshire 1594; to Pennsylvania c1683; to present day; .3 mgbytes!) containing some famous Quakers http://www.oocities.org/Heartland/Village/2123/pyle/pyle.html
QUELCH at http://www.oocities.org/Heartland/Village/2123/quelch/quelch.html (Welford, Wickham, East Garston and Lambourn -all in Berkshire, 1680-1829; 24 kbytes),
RATHBONE at http://www.oocities.org/kitpaku/rathbone/rathbone.html (Cheshire & Sheffield 1809),
RUSSELL at http://www.oocities.org/kitwnz/russell/russell.html (Whitchurch, Somerset c1750; Bristol c1820; 0.1 mgb),
SHERGOLD of Bishops Cannings, Wilts at http://www.oocities.org/keeto111/shergold/shergold.html
SLOPER (Bishops Cannings, Wiltshire c1590-1900; .2 mgb), http://www.oocities.org/Heartland/Village/2123/sloper/sloper.html
SPANSWICK of Lambourne, Berkshire http://www.oocities.org/keeto111/spanswick/spanswick.html - a branch at 3846 Jane WITHERS of withersberks.html
STEELE 1757 Pennsylvania-1839 North Carolina, a branch of our PYLE family above http://www.oocities.org/Heartland/Village/2123/pyle/steele.html
STROUD This contains the families
DOBLE (Wiltshire? 1701-1717), and
STROUD (Aldbourne and Baydon, Wiltshire 1743-1791), .3 mgb http://www.oocities.org/Heartland/Village/2123/stroud/stroud.html
TALMAGE (Ramsbury,Wiltshire 1840-1875; Hungerford,Berkshire 1862-84; Utah, USA 1877-present 30 kbytes),http://www.oocities.org/kitwnz/talmage/talmage.html
TARRANT at http://www.oocities.org/Heartland/Village/2123/tarrant/tarrant.html (Bromham, Wiltshire c1800-1880, .1 mgbytes),
TUBB at http://www.oocities.org/Heartland/Village/2123/tubb/tubb.html (Baydon, Wiltshire 1814-c1882; 20 kbytes),
WHITSON at http://www.oocities.org/kit_withers/whitson/whitson.html (Scotland 1780-1850; .3 mgbytes),
WAIT of Somerset
WAYLEN of Devizes, Wiltshire
WITHERS OF WILTSHIRE (Bishops Cannings, Wiltshire c1545-1900; .1 mgb) containing some famous QUAKERS. http://www.oocities.org/keeto111/withers/withers.html
This has a number of branches:
WITHERS OF BERKSHIRE AND HAMPSHIRE (1666-present; .1 mgb) at http://www.oocities.org/keeto111/withers/withersberks.html
withersus2.html DESCENDANTS OF THOMAS WITHERS (1663 Bishops Cannings,Wiltshire-1720 Chester co, Pennsylvania; .2 mgb) at http://www.oocities.org/keeto111/withers/withersus2.html
at http://www.oocities.org/keeto111/withers/hughes.html giving HUGHES descendants of Mary WITHERS (c1643 Chester Co-d1750) who m 1713 at Chichester Meeting House, Chester Co.,PA sp-William HUGHS/HUGHES (1691 Chester Co,PA - 1746 Lower Chichester Twp, Ches/Del Co., PA) Soldier, farmer.
For the Australian and New Zealand branches of my WITHERS tree see
our Australian WITHERS at http://www.oocities.org/keeto111/withersoz/withersoz.html (1841-present; .2 mgbytes), and
our New Zealand WITHERS at http://www.oocities.org/keeto111/withersnz/withersnz.html (c1885- present; .1 mgbytes).
From All Cannings, 3m from our ancestral home Bishops Cannings, Wilts. is the family of Major Edward WITHERS (Wiltshire 1804 - present, New Zealand).
other New Zealand WITHERS, (c1885-present; 35 kbytes)
and http://www.oocities.org/keeto111/withers/withersunrelated.txt for some notes on other WITHERS elsewhere in the world.
For example this contains the tree of
WITHERS (Thatcham, Berkshire 1797-present, Australia).
WOODLAND at Deal, Kent 1757-1881 with BUDD & PEPPER clues for Deal is at http://www.oocities.org/kit_withers/woodland/woodland.html ;
This includes our CLAYTON, CUMER, SALTER, TREVILLION, WOODLAND families of Deal, Kent.
A family that is connected to mine is
This is the crest of WHITSON of Parkhill, Scotland and of Sir Thomas WHITSON,
Lord Provost of Edinburgh. This came from
the Whitson homepage. Where did this move to?
This has two mailing lists: a US list and a Scottish list. If you want to join
the Scottish list, email this address:
and in the body of the text type:
SUB SCOTTISH-WHITSON YOURNAME"att"YOURSERVER.COM
The quick answer is to do a search on the name of interest to you in the following list of these generations counting back from me: (F=father M=mother) GENERATION 0: I am Q5252 in our NZ WITHERS above GENERATION 1: M (My mother) Laurette RUSSELL is 1411 in RUSSELL above GENERATION 2: FM (My father's mother) Elizabeth WHITSON is 1153 in WHITSON above MM (My mother's mother) Vera HALL is 47 in HALL above GENERATION 3: FFF Edward WITHERS 1845 Newbury,Berkshire is 3842 815 in WITHERS OF BERKSHIRE above & Q5 in OUR NZ WITHERS above FFM Agnes Mary NEWTON is 4 in NEWTON above FMM Fanny DEACON is 6422 in DEACON above MFM Alice Olivia HARFORD is 12 in HARFORD above MMM Laura Elizabeth RATHBONE is 644 in RATHBONE above GENERATION 4: FFFM Jemima TUBB is 2 in TUBB above FFMM Emma DEAN 1813 Nuneham,Oxfordshire m 0 in NEWTON above FMFM Elizabeth FENDER 1807 Haddington? m 11 in WHITSON above FMMM Eliza Gittens PETTET is 1231 5117 in PETTET above MFFM Ann DERRICK is 364 in DERRICK above MFMM Sarah Ann CLAY is 86 in CLAY above MMFM Betsy COOKE of Upperthorpe?,Sheffield m 0 in HALL above MMMM Elizabeth PASLEY c1837 East Retford,Notts. is 41 in PASLEY above GENERATION 5: FFFFM Mary QUELCH 1765 Lambourn,Berks-1829 is 334 in QUELCH above FFFMM Sarah Liddiard STROUD 1780 Baydon?,Wilts. is 35 in DOBLE above FMFFM Mary SHIELS Scotland m 0?? in WHITSON above FMFMM Elizabeth WILSON Scotland is mr in law to 11 in WHITSON above FMMFM Sarah BEDFORD (1774 Portsmouth,Ham') m 64 in DEACON above FMMMM Mary Ann WOODLAND (bp 1786 Deal, Kent) is 12 of 4.1 at PETTET above MFFFM Mary BAWLEY/BAWLERS Bristol? m 0 in RUSSELL above MFFMM Harriet BOWLER/BOWLES bc1813 Keynsham,Som. m 36 in DERRICK above MFMMM Caroline LAWSON 1804-1890 Faversham,Kent is 21 in lawson above MMMFM Mary WOLSTENCROFT c1786 Halton?,Cheshire m 6 in RATHBONE above MMMMM Winifred NEWBOLD 1810 East Drayton,Notts. is 56 in NEWBOLD above GENERATION 6: FFFFFF Robert WITHERS 1696 Wroughton,Wilts. is 384 in WITHERS OF WILTS above FFFFFM Mary HOPKINS 1718 Lambourn,Berkshire-1813 is 31 in HOPKINS above FFFMMF Thomas STROUD 1746 Baydon,Wilts. is 3 in DOBLE above FFFMMM Mary CHOULES m1772 Baydon ,Wilts. is his wife FMFFFM Agnes HOGG m 1755 at Prestonkirk m 0 in WHITSON above FMFFMM Christian HENRY of Prestonkirk is mr-in-law to 1 in WHITSON above FMMFFM Elizabeth JUDSON (1736 Portsmouth) m 1761 to 6 in DEACON above FMMFMM Love WELSTED m Portsmouth 1756 is mr-in-law to 64 in DEACON above FMMMFM Gittens TREVILLION bp 1741 Folkestone is 75 of 3.1 in PETTET above FMMMMM Mary PEPPER (bp 1766 Deal) is wife of 1 of 4.1 in PETTET above MFFMFM Elizabeth HARDWICK 1773 Tickenham,SOM is 26 of 5. in DERRICK above MFMMMM Ann GRIFFITHS 1779 Seasalter?,Kent is wife of 2 in LAWSON above MMMFFM Sarah DRINKWATER Runcorn?,Cheshire m 0 in RATHBONE above MMMMMM Elizabeth SPIVEY bp 1768 Notts is wife of 5 in NEWBOLD above GENERATION 7: FFFFFFM Katharine KING 1666 Wroughton,Wilts. is 17 in KING above FFFMMFM Sarah LIDDIARD -1760 Aldbourne?,Wiltshire is 281 in LIDDIARD above FMFFFFM ?Elizabeth WATT Scotland possible mr of 0 in WHITSON above FMFFFMM ?Elizabeth CUMMINS Haddington,Scotland mr-in-law? of 0 in WHITSON FMMFMMM ?Katherine WESTON widow m at Portsmouth is in PETTET above FMMMFFM Mary CLAYTON (bp 24.12.1732 Deal,Kent) is 7 of 2.1 in PETTET above FMMMFMM Elizabeth GITTENS m 1729 is wife of 7 of 3.1 in PETTET above FMMMMFM Elizabeth BUDD m 1757 at Deal 0 of 4.1 of PETTET above MFFMFFF Mary HOLLISTER m 1770 Bristol to 0 in DERRICK above MFFMFMF Ann WADE 1740 Portbury,Somerset m 2 of 5. in DERRICK above MFMMMFM Elizabeth MARSH 1752 Harbledown,Kent is 29 in MARSH above MFMMMMM Caroline IDDENDEN 1754 Seasalter-1832 is 4532 in IDDENDEN above GENERATION 8: FFFFFFFM Jane TARRANT 1631 Bishops Cannings,Wilts. is 1 in TARRANT above FFFFMFMF Ann CLARK Newbury,Berkshire is wife of 0 in QUELCH above FM3F3M Mary SALTER m 1722 at Deal,Kent is wife of 1231 in PETTET above FM3F2M2 Mary CUMER m 1714 at Deal is wife of 0 of 2.1 in PETTET above MFFMFMMF Susanna BUDDING d1773,Portbury wife of 0 in 5. in DERRICK above MFMMMMMM Elizabeth PHOSIER/PHOSSER/FOSSER is wife of 453 in IDDENDEN above GENERATION 9: F8M ie FFFFFFFFM Mary SLOPER -1678 Devizes. is 2111 211 in SLOPER above F7M2 Joane SLOPER 1607 Bishops Cannings is 2111 213 in SLOPER above FM3F4M Dorothy SOMES is wife of 123 in PETTET above MFM5FM Hannah MILES is wife of 45 in IDDENDEN above GENERATION 10: F9M Joane NASH bur 1631 Bishops Cannings?,Wilts. is 11 in NASH above F8M2=F7M3 Mary BAILEY -1640 Wilts. is wife of 2111 21 in SLOPER above FM3F5M Anne PARTRIDGE bur:1673 Coldred,Kent is wife of 12 in PETTET above MFM3FMF2M Rose BACHELOR nee HEWETT? 1631-81 is wife of 0 in MARSH above MFM5F2M Anne KNOWLER 1670 Swalecliff,Kent is wife of 4 in IDDENDEN aboveAbove is an (out of date) extract from http://www.oocities.org/Heartland/Village/2123/ancestors.html See there for more details on the surnames of my ancestors and where they lived.
My favourite ancestor is probably
3 THOMAS WITHERS (1596-1668).He was put in gaol by Cromwell in 1656 after being apprehended by a constable at Market Lavington (probably for holding a religious meeting there), dragged into an ale-house where he was kept until the next morning, & then committed by a JP to the county gaol - where he stayed for a long time with his property confiscated. So much for religious tolerance under the Protectorate!
Later he was fined for refusing to take his hat off in court. "When his persecution was at its height he with other fellow sufferers sent a moving petition to Judge Wyndham & the Salisbury Justices. (Ref: QSGR ed. BH Cunninham p244) `Wee suppose' they pleaded `its not unknown how many & how great are ... the troubles of us who are called Quakers which ever since wee were a People have beene inflicted & are yett likely, if the Lord open not people's hearts, to be continued against us.' The petition draws attention to the injustices heaped upon them & speaks of `the sighes & teares which our long bondage have produced.' At the end comes an entreaty `Let not our words & desires returne in vaine but favour us so much as to answer our complainte which we hope & believe will not be forgotten in the records of heaven.' But the sighs & tears went on; the words returned in vain. Worn out with imprisonment & ill treatment Thomas died 4 years later when only 46.
Mind you Gandy says "In his earlier unregenerate days this Thomas seems to have been a pugnacious person, in trouble with the Manorial Court, disputing a right of way ..." He was fined "for stopping up a public footpath must pay 12 pence & make it good".
His wife and son
33 THOMAS WITHERS THE QUAKER (1624-1684)
were also well-known Quakers. His mother was buried in 1678 in the Quaker plot near the Gallows Ditch, Devizes. She left this son "40 sheep & my best brasse pan & my best brasse pot". `Like his father Thomas refused all compromise with conscience. Called on to swear his fealty to John Methuen now Lord of the Manor, he `Say'd these English words "He could not swear." Therefore he was not admitted to his land.' (Ref: Court Book for 1681.)
Then there was
122 Thomas SLOPER, MA, Vicar of Bishops Cannings in Wiltshire 1504-1537.He loaned 40 pounds to King Henry 8, but did he ever get it back? I doubt it! He left his 3rd best woodwind to the poor people of the parish of Bishops Cannings: lucky them! Reminds me of
B3 John WITHERS the Elderwho died in 1637 leaving his "second best breaches" to his brother John Withers the Younger!
PLACE NAMES IN THE UNITED KINGDOMEver wonder where some obscure village is in the UK? To do a search for its UK Ordance Survey map & grid reference, you COULD look at their Gazetteer of Place Names. WHERE DID THIS MOVE TO??
OR, you can borrow from your local library the UK Ordnance motoring guide.
SOME FAMILIES IN TONGA & FIJII have also collected some Tongan family trees:
The HELU family is at http://www.oocities.org/Heartland/Village/2123/helu/helu.html
Do you want to mail me ?
ph 0064 4 934 4477 (home), fax 0064 4 569 0003
You can find which people with email are researching your surname using
THE ROOTS SURNAME LIST (RSL) .
Other sites you might like to visit are
http://www.worldgenweb.org/ - dividing the world into 11 regions for genealogy
Then there is
Cyndi's List, another genealogy website resource list ,
"Vicki's homepage" , - a directory of genealogical listservers, newsgroups and genealogical homepages,
"Genealogy resources on the internet" ,
and Quaker's Corner , if you have Quaker ancestors.
There are other sources but this is a start.
Who is documenting YOUR family history?
If you have material on your family you want to store as an ascii (text)
file, the way I'd suggest is you have 4 files, one for each grandparent.
This has the great advantage that it's easily updated & easily printed out.
Start with the furthest back you can go, and create a descendancy chart
from the initial couple. You'll need to decide on an order for their
descendants. I label the initial couple as 0, their children as 1,2,3,...,
and their children as 11,12,13,...,21,22,...,31,32,33,...
Somewhere in the file you could have an index of placenames and an index
You might like to search for your favourite surnames in the surname indices of my family trees. PRIVACY ISSUES The primary purpose of these family trees is to preserve the history of the families and to enable contact between members. So I include living members and a method of contact if I can. If for any reason you would like your contact details excluded please let me know.
We are of course all related - one gene pool. 600,000 years ago from a pool of only 3000 individuals, our species homo sapiens diverged from the Neanderthals. Sadly, they died out 28,000 years ago. 6 million years ago, our ancestral species diverged from the chimps. And so on.Thanks for being our.. guest since 24.7.2000
FREE SOFTWARE familysearch offers PAF www.myheritage.com/family-tree-builder looks like a great program.