The Original Holisticat (TM) Archives -- Slippery Elm
Slippery Elm Archive
8/20/98- 12/25/98

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From: Jnglecats@
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 14:27:00 EDT

kasperkatz@ writes:

<< I am about to put my cat on Slippery Elm for  diaherra.  What is the dosage?  I am very new to the list and I have tried
 all of the conventional methods. >>

What form do you have it in?  If you have it in capsules and want to pill the cat, I would empty out about 1/2 or 1/3 of the capsule and use the rest. (I just use a whole capsule). If you have powder and want to put it in the food, I would say about 1/2 tsp.  Or you can make a syrup out of it and use a syringe. If you have the herb I believe you can also make tea, just like with any other herb, use boiling water, let it steep, than strain out the herb and either use a syringe or put it in the cat's food once its cool.  Hope this helps!

Lee



Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 14:27:00 EDT

<< but I wonder if there is a limit to how long I should administer it? Or can I just keep on giving it to him for as  long as it helps?>>

<<Hi everyone,
I think the slippery elm advice given was great!  I used to follow what Jean described, the 'syrup'.  I would have to give Rudy 3-5 dropperfuls 3 x's daily.  I later made it in half batches, just in case, for spoilage. (had 1 incident)
One thing worth mentioning is that slippery elm should not be given on a daily basis, cause it's not a food herb.  Repeating advice Mary had given me, even tho I gave it to Rudy daily for about a year.
Judy
criterz@>>
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I must disagree with this.  According to textbooks, George Washington's troops survived the winter on nothing but the bark from the slippery elm tree.  They had run out of food.  So actually, it is highly nutritious.  So it's particularly good for diarrhea when they are losing so much with the diarrhea.

And all of mine love it!

Elaine Crews, N.D.



From: GoForaSail@
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 23:58:29 EDT

<<  My question to the list is....I am about to put my cat on Slippery Elm for  diaherra.  What is the dosage?  I am very new to the list and I have tried  all of the conventional methods. >>

I believe Elaine, our N.D on the list says 1/8 the human dose is good for cats but I gave my cat about 1/10th and that also worked wonders.

Emily H
Newport, RI



From: KECrews@
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 18:42:22 EDT

GoForaSail@ writes:
<< I believe Elaine, our N.D on the list says 1/8 the human dose is good for cats  but I gave my cat about 1/10th and that also worked wonders.>>

Herbs are not like drugs, where the dosage must be exact.  The 1/8 of a human dose is just a guideline.  Most people like to have something definite to work with.

Elaine


From: GoForaSail@
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 14:43:47 EDT

<< can anybody give me the biological (?) scientific (?, vocabulary, I'm  sorry!) name of slippery elm? I just find "elm" in my books and I see no  symptom I would put to what you call Slippery Elm. >>

Susanne-
It is Ulmus fulva according to the Scientific Validation of Herbal Medicine.

Emily H
Newport, RI


From: XNTRKME@
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 16:20:39 EDT

Slippery elm, also known as red elm and Indian elm Genus and species:Ulmus rubra, U.fulva Family:  Ulmaceae, other family includes nettles

Hope this helps!
Pam


Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 19:16:31 -0800
From: "Sandy A"

Hi everyone,

I got Mary Conley's permission to post this since so many of us use herbs for our kitties.  This appeared in the latest issue of "Herbs for Health" magazine.
___
Add these to your ever growing list of things to be careful about when taking herbs if you are on pharmaceuticals.

[snip]
Fennel seeds, psyllium husks, marshmallow root, iceland moss, apple pectin, flaxseed, aloe gel and slippery elm all high in fiber can bind to certain drugs in the gut area and can delay the absorption of medications taken along with these herbs.

[snip]
Source:  Herbs for Health, November/December 1998 Issue.

Mary L. Conley, MNH
The Conley Herb Farm & Learning Center
Be Natural Healing Arts Center/Silver Spring, Md.
***************************
My comments are instructional only.
Please be sure to seek the care of a health professional.


From: wordlady@
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 09:44:27 -0500

Hi Kathy

Just read all the posts about poor Kashmir this morning. I hope she's feeling better today? Do you have Diane Stein's book?
[Ed: Natural Remedy Book for Dogs & Cats] I just bought it yesterday so I tried to find something to help Kashmir.
[snip]

P 69
When/if you can get some "Slippery Elm ... is a nutrient and food for very young, old, or very weak cats or dogs. It coats and heals all inflamed tissue internally and externally, and is used for the stomach, ulcers, bowels and kidneys, constipation, diarrhea, dysentery and colitis, and the entire digestivetract. ..."

Hugs and headbutts
--Jean, Saski Basket & Amber Sweet T'ing



From: KECrews@
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 10:50:49 EST

Regarding those slippery elm recipes, I have had success with merely mixing a capsule into the food or make into tea and use an eyedropper to put into the kitten's mouth.  Or an adult, use a pill pusher.

Extremely effective any way given.

Elaine Crews, N.D.



From: CatCommunicator@
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 00:44:21 -0400 (EDT)

Hi everybody!

Slippery elm can be purchased in capsule form at the health food store. That's what I use, as my cats are used to being pilled, and won't eat any food that has been sprinkled with anything.

I am using slippery elm for a cat with inflammatory bowel disease.  His stomach and small intestine are inflamed.  No diarhhea, rather, the opposite problem with crying and straining in the pan.

When my cancer cat was still alive, I used something called Fiber-ex to help her pass her stools(she had intestinal blockage).  This product is made my Country LIfe, and it seemed to make her stools easier to pass. I would imagine it would also be good for cats with constipation AND diarrhea, as fiber helps form the stool and soothe the digestive tract, and that's what we want.

Ingredients Daily Fiber-Ex:

Psyllium husk fiber
Oat bran fiber
Fruit pectins(citrus and apple)
Scandinavian beet fiber
Citrus cellulose fiber
Jamaican ginger root(ginger root is good for nausea and stomach upset
and heartburn, by the way)
Okra(also soothes the stomach)
Beta-fructans(don't know what they are)
SLIPPERY ELM BARK
Manno-Oligosaccharides
(Bio-Most)--Don't know what they are
Peppermint leaf(good for tummy)
Fennel seed
Flax seed
Althea Marshmallow Root
Probiotic nutrients
and a base of magnesium citrate

This is in capsule form.

I would think this would really help a diarhhea kitty or one with loose stools.  However, the fiber in psyllium can sometimes make constipation worse if the animal doesn't consume enough liquid.

Hope this helps somebody!



From: Sandy A
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1998 16:19:22 EST

FraDCat@ writes:
<<Sandy, can you tell me more about herbs, like alfalfa & slippery elm?  >>

Hi Judi,

I feel awkward talking about herbs when there are experts on the list like Wendy, and Mary (sorry if I missed mentioning anyone).  All I know is what I read in my herb books and on websites.  One of my favorites is Henriette Kress' site:
http://sunsite.unc.edu/herbmed

She has a lot of great info about various herbal stuff, and I feel her site has the best links (to other wonderful sites on herbs) I've ever seen.

Alfalfa is one of those "superfoods" which contains a bazillion nutrients too numerous to list.  But any site on herbs should have lots of info on it.

I probably have a lot of herb sites bookmarked so lemme know if u want me to send 'em to ya.  If u check out Henriette's site, u will just be in awe; herbs are such a wonderful gift from God/Higher Power or whatever one believes in!

<<What do they do for the body?  My boy has a chronic diarrhea problem,  intermittently. Doc thinks it's IBS, caused by vaccinosis, years of poor nutrition,  etc.....>>

Slippery Elm should definitely help b/c it is a soothing muciligous (sp?) herb  Sheesh, I butchered that poor word but am too lazy to go look it up! <g>  Anyway, it's great stuff.  Judy from Chicago also has an IBD/IBS cat - Rudy - and she is giving him capsules she got from Vitamin Shoppe, called Fiber Sol.  It contains pectin, guar gum, and psyllium.  She said it's really helping Rudy, and after she put him on it, his BUN and Creat # went down to normal range (he also had borderline CRF).  Hmmm...I'm even more intrigued now by that fermentable fiber idea for CRF management.

Sandy, owned and operated by the mountain cats bummed cuz they didn't get more snow:(


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