JAY LENO: My first guest, an Emmy winning actress, in fact she hold the record for most Emmys for best actress. She stars on Murphy Brown, which is airing on Mondays at 9:00 on another network, CBS. Please welcome the lovely Candice Bergen!
Candice walks out, 'Whatís Goiní On' by Marvin Gaye is the song playing in the background.
CANDICE BERGEN: Iím having a good time already!
JL: Well, thank you for coming.
CB: Thank you for having me!
JL: I know you donít usually do these type of things, you look like youíre nervous.
CB: Itís not my skill.
JL: Well thatís odd to me because youíre so skillful, youíre so natural on the show. What seems hard? What is awkward?
CB: Nothing, nothing. You make it so easy. I even got a Yanni CD, Iím so happy! [Also] Baskets of food, candles...
JL: Bath oils, whatever you need!
CB: Iíll be back next week!
JL: Now your show is in the news again. Itís pretty amazing, over a ten year run that this show has been on, every couple of years, you guys manage to break into the news again. Were you surprised by all the controversy over this latest thing?
CB: Yeah, we were surprised by the amount of it, but certainly it was a little controversial.
JL: Well, we should explain. We did the joke in the monologue, your character, because of the breast cancer, she smokes marijuana--
CB: To relieve the symptoms--
JL: --for medicinal purposes... As most people in California do.
KEVIN EUBANKS: laughing Thank you, Jay.
JL: So did you get the crazy mail?
CB: No, actually mostly the response we got was how moved they were by the episode because the episode was very touching at the end and wonderfully written. And the DEA, the drug czar, spoke out, but he had not actually seen the episode. And Dan Quayle weighed in also.
JL:: Did he call again? Didnít he learn the last time when youíre going to get burned?
CB: For the rest of my life Iím going to get nailed by him. Itís something to look forward to.
JL: Do you think this was bigger than the first Dan Quayle thing, or smaller?
CB: Oh no the first one was big and it went on for months.
JL: Whoa! It was big.
CB: And it did go on for months.
JL: Because in this one it looked like you kind of inhaled.
CB: Yeah, wall of course it was herbal.
CB: It was herbal.
JL: I brought something. Well you mentioned the basket and I did get this for you character. (Jay takes out basket.) Some Twinkies, Ding Dongs. just some lovely things to take back. Some munchies I guess you people call them. I guess you call them munchies, you people?
CB: (Candice is laughing hard) Me?
JL: You hippie-type people. No.
CB: Thatís so considerate of you.
JL: Well there you are... Now quell another rumor here. Because all over the Internet, the rumor is ĎOmigod itís ten years the showís been on, looks like it will be the last one, theyíre going to kill her off. Murphy is going to fall into a meat cleaver or something.í Youíre supposed to die. Is any of this true?
CB: No. What an insane choice to make.
JL: I know, but thatís the rumor.
CB: We could just shoot ourselves in the foot. No Murphy certainly isnít going to die. Weíre going to go out with a big bang.
JL: A big what?
CB: Murphy is a survivor. Weíre going to go out with some noise.
JL: But it wonít be a funeral thing?
JL: Because youíll want to do that big reunion show in like 20 years.... Is this definitely the last?
CB: Oh I swear to god. I swear.
JL: But I mean CBS, you know itís a huge show, it does well, they back the truck up: ĎOkay, listen, we got to have you here, whatever you need. A ton of dough, free food in the cafeteria. Whatever you want.í You canít be persuaded?
CB: No Itís so great to go out on this kind of high, as it were. (Candice laughs.)
JL: You might not even be aware the show is over, yourself. But you know, you watch the show and it does look sort of like a well-oiled machine. I mean the characters are so engrained, everybody knows their parts, do things go wrong?
CB: They rarely do, but sometimes when the deck is stacked, sometimes when we work with a lot of kids. Sometimes things would go on, sometimes when we would work with the odd animal. Sometimes weíve had more than the odd animal. Sometimes weíve had lots of animals on the show.
JL: Now they sent us over an outtake. What is this clip? Do you know what it is?
CB: This is about the odd animal. This is a herd of pigs that we had once in Corkyís apartment and our director, Peter Bonerz, can be heard over the clip, telling Joe Regalbuto to stroke the pig, because the pig wonít stop squealing. And understandably! So this is that clip and sort of your average scene.
JL: Okay, and hereís an outtake here, go ahead, Murphy Brown.
(Clip is shown, Candice explained it pretty well.)
JL: You know its interesting, I always wondered about this because when I was a kid, Iím in my 40ís, everybody knew about your dad, of course Edgar Bergen, before they knew about you. But now its sort of the other way around. We have a lot of interns and I mentioned that you were on the show and I said, "You know, her dad is Edgar Bergen," and they kind of knew. How many of you people donít know Edgar Bergen and Charlie McCarthy? (some applause from the audience) Not too many. Your father was probably the most famous ventriloquist, wasnít he?
CB: Yeah. It wasnít a crowded field. But the fact that--
CB: I donít mean to demean it, but he was really more famous for creating the character that became an icon, that was sort of like Mickey Mouse, Charlie McCarthy, at the time. And for wonderful writing, and for being a ventriloquist on the radio which was sort of a--
JL: Yeah, interesting. Show the still. (Still photograph of Charlie McCarthy and a fairly young Edgar Bergen.) Now your dad, obviously the one on the right.
JL: Now is this true, I used to hear these things like Charlie, the dummy, had a bedroom in the house bigger than yours.
CB: Well he had my room and when I was born he was moved next door which was the guest room, so yes, it was true. And he had a desk, in my fatherís office. And he had a wardrobe and assorted heads with different facial expressions.
JL: I was thinking of Michael Jacksonís kid. Oh my god. (There was a joke about Michael Jacksonís kid in the monologue.)
JL: Now did you think [Charlie] was like a brother when you were little? Did you think like, "Daddyís going in to talk to Charlie." Was it like that?
CB: Well I was always called Charlieís sister. Except his head would be taken off and he would be laid in the trunk and that was always a happy time for me.
JL: Did you think that would happen to you? "Daddy please! Donít take my head off!!"
JL: And you were a dancer, as well?
CB: Yeah, well....
JL: A ballerina?
CB: ....Letís just limit that.
JL: Oh, no, we have some wonderful footage here.
CB: Iím sure you would.
(Clip of old family movie of Candice as a child Ďdancingí in a ballerina costume.)
JL: Notice the natural grace?
JL: Certainly not on marijuana in that photo.
CB: No, just white.
JL: And you did modeling, as well?
CB: Yeah.... For a minute.
JL: And I believe there was some nude modeling, wasnít there?
CB: Oh, geez.
JL: Wasnít there?
CB: Yeah. Go ahead and show it.
JL: Do we have the nude...
(Still of a baby picture of Candice)
JL: There you are again.
CB: So whatís left to know?
JL: No no no. You know youíre doing a terrific show. In one sense, I will miss your show but I think itís real smart. Here you go out on the tenth year of the show and the writing is as smart and as bright as itís ever been. Youíre a wonderful actress and congratulations. I see why youíve won more Emmys than anybody else. The show will be on next Monday, nine oíclock. Now you have to go now, donít you?
CB: Thank you, Jay.
JL: Okay, Candice, thank you very, very much.
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