New 10/12
Hmm, wonder who she could be talking about. I find it rather funny that one of the people she sent this to -- the ones she describes in the last paragraph -- is a person who submitted it.

From: Molly Fanton To: (whole lotta people)
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 21:14:51 -0800 (PST)
I need to talk to you guys, because I want to voice some concerns. I'm feeling like there's an anti-Molly feeling around the Whosers, and I don't really like it. I really know I've caused a lot of problems in the group, but when I see the topic (I'm paraphrasing) "Let's Join the No Molly's Club" I really feel hurt and insulted. I know a few of you will say, "Oh you deserve everything you get, because you have really hurt us."
I know right now, a few of you think I'm annoying, and I admit that. I just want to be respected like everyone else. But of course that's not going to happen unless I change like that *snaps fingers*. I just hate being ignored and treated like crap. And that's how I'm feeling right now in the Whosers. But don't worry, I will NEVER act like one certain Whoser that will remain nameless. I know there are a few Whosers that still like me, but they are starting to find me annoying constantly bitching about how I'm being treated. But I wish you would think about MY feelings.
I know a few of the Whosers I've talked to in the past have told me not to get so upset about what some Whosers say. But as you know I'm very sensitive, and when I see "the anti-Molly club" that hurts.
I'm talking to you, because I trust you guys. You're the best Whosers that I could find, and yes I know I'm annoying. Thanks for letting me vent.



Next, I have to share 3 that I (Sharilyn) have recieved from Molly. She could use a few lessons in how to flame a person properly. You can almost hear her sputtering while you read these.

From: Molly Fanton
Subject: Why don't you
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 13:09:07 -0800 (PST)
I promised myself that I'd never e-mail you ever again, but this has to be said. You're the biggest bitch that I've ever met. You have hurt a couple of people I like, and I know that a few Whosers don't like you. Since you won't give me a list of people who don't like me, I'm not going to give you a list of people who can't stand you.
I will never bow down to your shit. You want to be Queen Whoser and get rid of the teenybopper Whosers, well miss bitch you'll never get rid of them. If you don't like them ignore them, but the word ignore isn't in your vocabulary.
I found what you said on the MB very hurtful, but of course that's all you like doing is hurt other people's feelings. You don't give a shit about their feelings. You are the most uncaring person I've ever met. So I hope that you lose all your friends, because right now my dear you don't deserve them.


From: Molly Fanton
Subject: Go to Hell
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 20:33:48 -0700 (PDT)
I don't really like you correcting me the way you did, Wideass (you call me Sweet Cheeks, I'm calling you Wideass). And what I fucking do with my life is none of your business. So you can go screw yourself. I'm sick of your shit. You say that I don't look good, well Wideass you make yourself look like the biggest bitch in the universe. And most people don't like that. So you can shove it up your Wideass.


From: Molly Fanton
Subject: Go to Hell
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 20:33:48 -0700 (PDT)
I just reread one of your posts under mine. My web site isn't a piece of crap, you bitch. I'd like to see you try it. Go ahead, try it. You don't know anything about web design. I've had people say that I've done a good job with my web site, but what do they know. According to you they're probably idiots. So I guess Lee Harris from Talk Talk is an idiot. Oh no, Lee Harris to you is a fucking nobody. You're the biggest bitch I've ever seen. You say nobody likes me, well bitch, nobody likes people like you. I bet you intimidate a whole bunch of people to like you. Oh you say that I don't use good etiquette, well bitch, you also don't use good etiquette, anybody who posts bitches to others about another person is the biggest bitch in the world. I hope you go rot in hell, bitch.


Uh-huh.



This was a group email written by Sam, Julie and Jessie.


From: Julie Barman
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 3:19 AM
Subject: letter to Molly

These are our true feelings, and we want you to respect them just as we have tried to respect yours.
Second, we'd like to make a suggestion. If you feel so bad about something that you feel the need to include all those apologies, maybe think twice about posting next time? We realize you want to express your feelings and all, but in a way that's going to hurt others? Especially since you've voiced this time and again? Basically, on your MB post, you keep saying you're sorry for this page. If you have to apologize THAT profusely in advance, you probably shouldn't be posting it at all. It sure sounds like you don't want to.
Now what we've done is cut and paste your post from your "My Thoughts" page so that we don't get any miscommunications here. So without further ado...
***
Okay, this has to be said or I'm going to burst. I'm getting really frustrated with a couple of things. One thing is that I'm part of this group called The Whosers, fans of Whose Line Is It Anyway?, and a few of them go places.
***
Response :
Maybe ... 1/4 of us go to events. Nobody else whines, except for "you're lucky"-type stuff. Drools over it, certainly. But they live vicariously, and enjoy it through the people who go. Just like those who go on one trip and not the next do the same. Sam for instance has never been to a taping, and she was thrilled when the others got to go to the tapings. She lives vicariously through the photos, and so do we all. Hearing so much about the shows we haven't been to we feel like we were there. Sam is constantly asked if she went to Vegas, or Julie to the gala, and they haven't but they lived vicariously and enjoyed it that way so much that it seemed like they did to some people. Even themselves.
***
What really frustrates me the most is that how in the world do they get all this money to go off to these trips? I know most of these people aren't rich, but I have no clue how they get the money.
***
Response:
You want to know how we get our money? We work. We save. We don't buy something else and instead we save money for one of these trips. The same way you save money for anything you want, no matter what it is. Even to the point of skipping other WL related things ... Julie skipped a Rocky Horror convention AND the trip to LA to see 'Vs.' because she is saving for Convention. Sam is cutting off her cable to pay for trips. You sacrifice what you can to do what you want to do.
***
I'm really bothered by it. I know I shouldn't because it's none of my business, but it just irks me. Their excuse is that they want to have fun? Going into debt isn't what I call fun, but hey it's their lives.
***

Response :
Yes, we are in debt, some of us. We are also mostly university students (at least we three are), and for us, debt is a way of life. And right now, when we have the opportunities to travel, isn't it the best time to do such things? Before we don't have the opportunities that we have now? But yes, it is our lives. You are very right about that. Why should you care about our financial situations? What does that have to do with you? We don't care about yours, or worry about yours. You are your own person, and we are ours. Not accountable to each other in actions, especially in finances.
***
They always yell at me for getting upset about it, but I can't help it. I know I'm going to be in trouble for saying this here, but this is my thoughts page. I don't like hurting people's feelings, but I need to be honest with my feelings.
***
Response :
And why are you having these feelings? Why can't you help it? Agreed, this is your thoughts page, but why are you having these "feelings" about us? And have you considered what the feelings are truly? Because Molly, the only feelings that are coming across are not of concern for our finances or our lives or how we live, but of jealousy. And Molly, we can't help getting upset about your attitude. We feel like your grumbling about our trips is an attempt to make us feel guilty for taking them without you. It's getting to the point where we've heard your opinion...like....a bajillion times...we know what you think ... and frantically we're getting to the point where we just can't care anymore because it's that depressing.
***
Then in June I want to go to the Whoser Con in Toronto, but I probably won't because I don't have any money. I really really want to go though. I've told some people about it and they say, "Well when you get a job you can do whatever you want." And I want to say, "I don't care, I'm going". But I never say that. I just really want to get the money to go.
***
Response :
Then why do you just sit and complain about it? Go, look for a job, find a way to save some extra money. If you can't get that done, that is not our fault. You can't look to someone else to wave a magic wand and fix it, you either work for it, like we do, or you don't get what you want. If you really want to go, you'd better stop wishing for a handout. All your not-so-subtle pleas for financial help on the MB are not going to make a dime appear. You need to earn the money yourself, just like every single other Whoser is. But the way all this sounds, it doesn't even sound like you'd enjoy yourself anyway! We're sorry, but that's the way you come across in attitude. And that self-same attitude is going to scare off other Whosers if you keep dumping on them for what they've done and you haven't, or with your complaining.
***
I really want to see the Whosers who I've been talking to on the internet for the past year or so, even though they'll probably hate me for what I just said up in the last paragraph. They've helped me get through a lot of things, and I just want to go up there and see the faces behind the words, but I know there is no chance for this to happen. I'm looking for a job, but I know I'll probably won't find one before June 25th. Oh what am I going to do, I'm really upset about this.
***
We're afraid we still don't see why this was given to us on the Message Board. It's not productive at all. We know, and have known long before this, that you're having problems. It's impossible not to, when you bring it up almost every second sentence. Think of it this way ... you are not the only one to have financial difficulties with trips. You are not the only one who doesn't make it to tapings or get-togethers. Yet you are the only one who complains. And you complain quite often. No change after all this time you've been a member of our community. Which brings us to the question: What, exactly, have the Whosers gotten you through? And by this we mean the fans, not watching the show. You've not seemed to change as long as you've been here.

And we're sorry to say this, but as supportive as we like to be, we don't like to be dragged down, or made someone's punching bag. We have our problems, our needs as well, but we learn how to deal with them on our own. And we can be sympathetic ears, but only so far until what seems like true need seems to turn to a constant complaining. Basically, we're getting sick of taking this anymore. Everyone has problems. Did you know that members of our community suffer under different medical disorders? Problems with family and money that far outweigh that of a normal person, even a student? No. Why not? Because other than a few comments to friends, we deal with it. Learn that, it'll do you a world of good.

And if that comes across as hate, well, it's not intended to be that way. But negative emotions are going to spur negative emotions. And all you've given us to go on is negativity. You've even said you hated a group all three of us are involved in, to one of our faces, and we'd never said such a thing to you. How can you expect us to be sorry if something in this bit of hard truth hurts you, after the hurt or annoyance you've caused to us or others.

Think about it. Hard. Then if you can respond honestly, without just saying "oh I'm so sorry" for the millionth time and then not even blinking or changing at all, write back. If not, don't bother. We don't need that.

Jessie, Sam and Julie.





Another from Julie

From: Julie Barman
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 1999 1:04 AM
Subject: beware of the orange whiner


If you get these before the gala ...


Molly whined and wheedled Emile in the chatroom tonight until he agreed to try to get her Colin's autograph at the Gala. DO NOT ALLOW IT!

And why? WHY, you ask, should you not allow it??? Well, apart from the usual reasons, miss Orange-Jabberwocky INSULTED THE GAELIC SISTERS!!! Oh, yes she did! We were discussing stalking, and someone said, "I'm not a stalker ... I'm a Whoser." Shari said it was the GS's slogan and one couldn't use it w/o permission. Molly then said - direct quote here - "I hate Gaelic Sisters." Oh, yes she did!!!!! I immediately finagled an apology from here, as I can do so well, but SHE DESERVES NO AUTOGRAPH!!! PLEASE don't let Emile be nice!!!

I'm done ranting now. Really.

Have a ROCKIN' TIME at the gala!!!!! (Jess, didja ask Colin about the STC script? Hmmmm?)

Peace, Love, and Party Quirks,

Julie :-)

*********** > >From: Molly Fanton
> >To: Julie Barman
> >Subject: Re: the final puzzle
> >Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 02:21:28 -0700 (PDT)
> >

> >Thanks Julie, I'm just a person who wants to win > >something and I want to win the prize. I rarely > win > >anything, and I would do anything to win. I am > trying > >my best, and I've been happy so far. The people > that > >give me clues give me really vague clues, but it > just > >helps enough to push me in the right direction. I > >just want to be the fastest. But if I don't win > I'll > >still be happy, because these are great puzzles, I > >just get frustrated and stressed out easily. > >But with this job training course we're going to > have > >a person to come in and talk about stress > reduction. > >And boy, do I need it. > >I was just curious about something, are you still > in > >the Rocky Horror cast? Also, have you met any of > the > >cast members of RHPS? Man, I would LOVE to meet > and > >interview Richard O'Brien, Tim Curry or Nell > Campbell. > > I wish I could involved in a Rocky Horror cast, > but > >with my leg the way as it is, I can't really run > >around. I would love to play either Magenta (I > LOVE > >Partricia Quinn) or one of the Transvestites. I've > >been a fan of RHPS since I was about six. My mom > told > >me that I used to sing Touch-a, Touch-a, Touch Me > when > >I was around six. > >Well, I better go, it's 5am, and I'm a bit tired. > >Hmm, I do have a craving for a banana dacquri. :) > >I've had the nonalcoholic one before, but I've > never > >tried the alcoholic one before. Thanks for the > offer.