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ZZAPPP! (pistol keluar holster)
SLUCK! (peluru masuk chamber)
SLUCK! (satu lagi peluru)
CLICK! (cocked!)
AIMING!
FIRE!

Yawnnnnnnnnn!
nevermind the waiting
the last two parts from SFX can wait,
the shopping binge can continue tomorrow
this PBDS article is national disaster !

Reading your post, SFX, I imagine the writer – a cocked-eye man with crooked nose, beehive hairstyle on a head too reluctant to wear biretta. I imagine listening to a self-important old man who couldn’t impress anyone in the city hall, so he took his ‘theories’ to the streets hoping passers-by could finally believe him that the world is flat!

You disregard my advice I made the other day, SFX, for both of us to refrain from talking about the roles of some ‘invisible hands’ in Dayak Politics for that is nearly impossible to prove, and that such allegation would only poison the mind of the otherwise innocent people in here. Having that textbook knowledge of a historian, you should shed light on most important question relevant to PBDS second deregistration that is “WHY TAJEM DIDN’T HOLD THE TDC as instructed by BN committee? And spare PBDS from DEREGISTRATION. Why? Why? Why? Are you trying to divert the blame to Tok Uban instead, to save Tajem ? Well then, following that logic you can blame God for letting your kid to play with fire and burn the house down!!!

It’s all about your conviction, SFX, how you perceived the fall of PBDS has been destined, was deliberated by some outsiders, the anti-dayaks, in particular Tok Uban. How convincing was your theory, especially with that clever outlining of political history to coincide with the events you claimed had taken place. Yes, you poison people’s mind so cleverly to the point they don’t know what to believe anymore.

If this is the manner in which we should present our case, I might as well can just claim that Tajem was appointed as Malaysian High Commissioner to New Zealand 1996-2000 due to his affiliation with the group supporting Annuar Ibrahim, or that Leo Moggie had initially thought of ousting Tajem from the party because Mahathir Mohamad regards Tajem as a threat to UMNO. And if that’s the way to present our case here, I might as well just tell Selene that Masing was Moggie’s favourite to take over from him and that Moggie rejected ‘Miri Formula’ because the proposal from the 164 branches put Tajem as the No 1 leader, not Masing !!! Tajem hold no portfolios, either at State level or Federal level. I can make up stories like this, too!! I can pick up any historical dates to support my story ! But you see, SFX, I just can’t do that. That’s not my style! That’s deceiving! That’s unethical even for a politician!

You may have all the heart to save Dayak, SFX, but nearly everything you said was suspects ! It’s all about your conviction….. your assumption, assumption and more assumptions. Find below, highlighted parts in the question-and-answer I find so irritating…. how you cleverly blended your lies with truth:

Quoting SFX:
In 1987 and in 1991, both elections produced a mixed bag of results for the then Parti Bangsa Dayak Sarawak. Out of a total of some 15-16 seats in the DUN for PBDS (a major achievement by any Party of the time) in 1987, 8 MPs or ADUN crossed over the floor of the House to join PBB. The Heads of this grouping was Gramong Juna (now a demoted minister in PBB) and a then Edward Jeli (a colleague of Sidi and various others, notably Celestine Ujang).

To the credit of the 3 top Dayak Leaders in PBDS at the time (Moggie the decoy federal rep, Tajem the actual Leader, and Masing the protégé Minister) remained united in the face of fierce State Opposition, and consolidated PBDS as a vehicle for Dayak aspirations. Daniel Tajem, however remained a thorn on Pehin's side at about this time, and there was some very real opposition to the then government's legislation on Land, NCR and various other policies. (Which, inevitably, many would agre that a healthy democracy requires a slick opposition)

The one whereby some form of political arrangement was made between the triumvirate in PBDS with Abdul Taib Mahmud provided that he allowed PBDS entry into the State BN ?? Are you referring to that arrangement, the so called Sylvester Endawie option ??? (Sidi Munan would know this, no doubt he had something to do with it)

I would say this was the beginning of the end for PBDS as a political party at the time. Melanau sources close to ATM at the time confirmed their hostility to their new partners, and made plans to find some way to keep the PBDS leadership emasculated and in line with their gov't policies.

The arrangement was a simple one. Leo Moggie would remain the Dayak rep in Kuala Lumpur, James Masing took up the leadership reins of PBDS in Sarawak whilst given a position in Taib's cabinet, and Daniel Tajem, the noble leader would be relegated to a overseas posting abroad, say, somewhere insignificant, to keep out of Tok Uban's hair (well ATM had some interesting hairstyles, just had to make sure Daniel wasn''t there to ruffle it ). The die was cast by then, and the Dayak leadership paved their way to a certain self destruction (with a little bit of help from our White Hair), and the loyal followers like me and 007, well....., we followed. In private, there was some very nasty rumours doing the rounds.

The spark that eventually ignited the gunpowder , was the Land Code amendment. (Bond will painfully remember this one) . Let me explain this rather briefly, the Land Code amendment set out a number of provisions, which promised to recognise Native Customary Rights claims (the bedrock of PBDS). Now, as we all know, the government policy on NCR is far from perfect, however the amendments introduced a set of processes which, invariably, required all civil servants in Land & Survey to be honest, careful, and thorough with the implementation of this legislation. Needless to say, for all the praise of the SCS in Malaysia, they too are human, and there was some spectacular failings (which embarrassed James Masing, a number of high flying senior civil servants, and the Federal Government). To summarise, rumours fervently placed the blame on James Masing, but as Minister at the time, he was tasked to stand up for Dayak rights, and I can see why he remains bitter, however Minister's are there to take the blame and get the sack. That's politics.

Yes and No. Daniel Tajem has nobility in him. He will remain adamant in the face of issues which would hurt his people, the Dayaks. And he was astute enough on how to "tip the balance" with this member of the Mahmud family. Daniel Tajem, remains to this day an old fashion, old school Iban politician, ruthless, brave, cunning and savvy enough to know when his people mattered. The rest could not measure up. Leo Moggie in comparison was a "people person" and Mahathir loved his charm.

James is 55 years old. He hails from the Balleh region of Sarawak, to this day 100% Iban population of 8,000 -10,000, and like Daniel Tajem, he has a higher education, but is not in, shall we say, in the "proffession". At this stage , let me point out that the PBDS leadership has a rich pool of Dayak and Chinese graduates to pick from. A lot of them are Barristers, some Solicitors and a fair smattering of strategists plus politcal experts.

Joseph Salang a/k Gandum is a promising Iban politician of some note. The highest calibre Iban politician we have around to this day. He is the leader of the "partyless 5" and tied with him is the guaranteed support of some 130,00 Dayak members. Any political leader worth his salt in Sarawak is frantically negotiating with this man to bring him and his gang into their party, reasons as follows:

1. Joining PBB is seen as lucrative on all sides, except for the Sarawak Malays (Tuan Julaihi, r u listening ???). Now we all know, that sometime in 1998, the 2 malay leaders in Sarawak, Abang Jo and Adenan Satem, openly waged conflict with one another in PBB. Leonard Linggi played out his role extremely well in that one, but sadly for them, ATM was displeased at that embarrasing episode, its all hush hush, but officially the Sarawak MalaysS do not want 100,000 Ibans joining their boat, as it will increase the Dayak influence in PBB by threefold, at the very least.

2. Joining any other entity is just as fruitful, except PBB is tightly run battleship, and fortune favours the brave.

Who benefit most from the demise of PBDS?
Abdul Taib Mahmud. Pehin of Sarawak, and the nightmare UMNO has most nights.

Central and Southern Sarawak, the Rejang Ibans and the fierce Batang Lupar Ibans., together with a sprinkling of high calibre Kayan allies from Belaga.

Initially Masing sent his protege Dublin on a spoiling raid against remnants of PBDS and the partyless 5. Dublin came back to his master with the tail between his legs and last I heard, the Batang Lupar Ibans (Lingga, Simanggang, Lachau, Saratok, Betong, Batang Ai, Nanga Sumpa, Engkilili and various other districts ) are seriously mad with him,/ (Nadai chan dik nyadi ADUN agi, Dublin)

.... end of quote


Just to refresh your memory, I’d like to ‘import’ our previous articles from Randau Ruai and paste them up here for us to reflect on. I think you made little assumption then, but still that habit of yours is forever your trademark. You see I also can make deduction close to assumption - I said Tajem is arrogant…. But unlike you, I tell you my reasons.

Quoting SFX
Why do you think Tajem is an arrogant person ?
Before you answer that question, would you be so kind as to explain who was the then President of the now deregistered PBDS ?Could you explain what his authority is within the party ? Could you explain what authority means ?What makes you think our leader should give way to a minor Baron from Balleh ? I say this with respect to Balleh Ibans known for their ferocity.What makes you think that gives an absolute right to Sng Chee Hua and Jemut Masing to break up PBDS because they can't have their perverted ways ? One is a chinese gangster gambler and the other a playboy wannabe CM.What makes you think Tok Uban can pick whomsoever he wishes in PBDS to form his government, regardless of our committees and flying in the face of other Iban, Kayan, and Bidayuh PBDS leaders ? I call that a lack of respect to dayaks in general. What would you call that ?

Bear in mind DT's position in the Iban communities in Sarawak and those in Kapuas. We maybe divided, punggal, but we're all Ibans. And we have allies as well.

So, trying to follow your logic, if Tajem is arrogant, what are the others ? Angels ? Saints ? Demigods ? Idols we should worship ? Are you trying to tell me that Sarawakians should have no brains and no voice ? Is that the impression you wish to convey to all Malaysians and the world ?

awaiting your reply.

Posted by SFX replies to James a/k Bond on October 25, 2004 at 16:41:44: In Reply to : Re: Allright (salvaged from deleted posts below) posted by James ak Bond replies to SFX on October 25, 2004 at 01:56:00:

I am not going to change your mind about politics.The manner in which you perceive how the game is played out is also dubious. You have your reasons for supporting Sng Chee Hwa and James Masing. That's fine. For now I am not interested in haranguing you anymore. It's clear you seem to think highly of a certain White Hair and "his league of friends". However, JJM and Sng Chee Bye will never go near the office of the Chief Minister. Both are too old, and only good enough for the coming election, which I predict, would be a PBB Melanau victory....hands down, given the grovelling support from certain quarters. There is no "new generation" worthy enough in PRS to take on your cause...ooooppss unless you're counting on Larry. Which I hope for you is otherwise.
Now if you don't mind, I'll pick through your comments;

1. "why take pride in something that is obsolete
knowing very well you're the PBDS killer"

Some 130,000 voters in Sarawak will take pride in something obsolete.

2."now you want to go to the court of law, Tajem?!
> oh please! I thought we had enough of you"
Yes, you did have enough of us. That's why you're in PRS now. I wish you well. And another thing, appealing against the decision of the Secretary of State for the Home department and the (RoS), by putting in an application for judicial review, is democratic. I would say some 130,000 disenfranchised voters would agree.

3. "he was only the caretaker!
> his job was to hold a TDC
> the Bintulu TDC and Santubong TDC not recognised
> meaning he needs to hold another one
> he didn't do his job
> he cannot sack people from the party"

The TDC held by JJM was deemed to be illegal by the RoS, subsequently laying the grounds for the initial deregistration. An Information Chief in PBDS does not have the authority to call his own TDC. I am pleased that you have insulted PBDS members in this manner.

4.count how many MPs and State Assemblymen
you have in your camp
> we don't count the illegal PBDS branches set up overnight
> a minor Baron?

That's fine. It's allright if members and MP's choose to dissent and express their concerns. We'll ignore the chickenshit "scare tactics" you guys used in openly canvassing your support amongst respected members in the organisation, whom by the way, your people extended the same courtesy, as you did to me.

5. "again, why do think it was them who started the break up?
> it was your mentor Leo Moggie who cultured greed in you
> the initial agreement was for you to become the next president
> and Masing the deputy"

Allright, blame poor old Leo. It's his fault we're in this mess. It's because of Leo and Tajem that people as close to perfection as JJM and his friends chose to "rock the boat". Your camp is entirely innocent and next to godliness in this respect. Poor Sng. Am I right ?

6. "now the question is, who befriends the ‘gangster’ first"

How sad it's come to this. It's a tragedy to see someone as clever as you acknowledge what a saintly man a gangster is ? 20 years of education, love and support to produce this sort of thinking ? I am hurt with disappointment.

7."when it comes to making a choice between two Ibans
> they go for the better Iban, in this case it is Masing
> Tajem lost his credibility in total
> when the PBDS he was leading was deregistered"

yes Masing is a cunning leader, but has he outplayed his hand, by cutting off the 130,000 hands that nurtured and followed him ? Now he has all that work to do in rebuilding his "credibility".

8. "Tajem comes along and starts his sort of ‘mutiny’
> Now where’s PBDS?
> what happen to Salang, Bato’, Adit, Gerang, and Dagang?
> what will happen to us?"

Where have I heard this before ? It's up to you to decide your future. Better work hard at it. The Melanaus have speedboats and all you have is a sampan. With a sampan you can get far ? right ? The great PRS sampan.

"Sarawakians have brains
> only Tajem doesn’t
> and you can follow him"

Yes we all know that. Thanks for bestowing this on to us. Anything the White Hair and his friends say. no problem.

Thanks for the discussion.

SFX

... end of quote

( Oh this sound familiar) Listen, SFX, I am not going to change your mind about politics. The manner in which you perceive how the game is played out is mere SUSPECT. You have your reasons for supporting Tajem and less PBDS and very little Dayak. That's a shame. For now I am not interested in haranguing you anymore. It's clear you seem to have some paranoia of a certain White Hair and "his league of friends".

You can continue telling the masses about the ‘ghost’ haunting PBDS; my position on the matter remain – Tajem should hold the TDC. He should hold it even if it would mean he sees defeat to Masing. Hold the TDC anyway, to save the party. The Dayaks own the party, not Tajem. If we were to see the choice now between Dayak-based PBDS and multi-racial PRS, the choice would have been easier.

I’m telling you here, SFX, and I truly hope you would stick it to the back of your mind for as long as you’re still sane, that I will not change my mind about Tajem is BAD, BAD, BAD for not holding the TDC. What happen before the deregistration and after the deregistration…. I have little interest in that !!!

Your story about the Tok Uban & Co was behind the deregistration is TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE ! I have no interest in that as well.

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Quote SFX: .......... get whatever you want at the campus cafeteria (so now we know your an undergrad)  ...... and I wonder how you got by at Uni (did you ask someone to do your notes, during lectures ???).......

GOTCHA!
Is this just the tip of an iceberg?
Reflecting on the type of person you are?
always assuming things ???

I was only saying going to 'Campus Cafetaria' for lunch
going to 'campus cafetaria' don't make me campus student
I don't say I'm undergrad
consider another possiblity, that I only a visitor
or that I go there to see my girlfriend who's a lecturer
(ask Qumang, I told them in a post previously
about me having an Iban gf lecturing at a university)
if your assumption here already wrong
what more to say the many assumptions in your PBDS articles
especially the one about the 'ghost' and the PBDS

asking someone to do my note???
Careful there, SFX, such remark can offend REAL undergrads here
or you could be speaking from experience ???
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Selene wrote:
Glad you're still around James, just not like you to be too quite...yes we shall wait patiently for SFX to write some more, no rush, we have all the time in the world...by the way you are not going to just ignore my specific question are you?...SFX have accepted my challenge, don't believe James Bond would let assumption let his side down, would he James?.  


You're right, assumption is a turn off
and about your question
I'm afraid I have to disappoint you
I DON'T KNOW !!! .... to bluntly said
I'm not PBDS or PRS member and I'm not hardcore fan of Masing
and to let you know what I know about it
is like giving you my assumption
" 164 branches agreed on Miri Formula
which promises Tajem as president and Masing as deputy"
TAKE IT FROM THERE
off course Masing was delighted about that
HE BELIEVES HE'LL BE THE NEXT DEPUTY
now how would you feel if someone retracted that decision ???
TAKE IT FROM THERE
off course you still believe in the choice
of the 164 branches, right???

It's funny how SFX didn't get to hear about Miri Formula
when it comes from Moggie's mouth himself
and news about Moggie acknowledging its existence
was published in Borneo Post
My concern about this PBDS issue was
why the power struggle when they have a solution
in Miri Formula ???
why the deregistration when the least they could have done
was to hold the TDC ???
or why Tajem didn't hold TDC

That's all I care to know
this bugger go and tell us about 'Conspiracy Theory'
that's completely beyond me !!!
and I don't want to believe that
for as long as I still believe Tajem the big culprit
prove to me he's not the culprit
then I can consider other reasons
for PBDS deregistration
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Really James, I am very disappointed in you. Is that all you brought to the argument ???

Where is this piece of paper known as the so called "Miri Formula" ???

Why did James Masing and Sng Chee Hwa hold a 2nd TDC ???

Please stick to discussion, James, and try to follow the flow of it. Nobody here is out to get you, but I am beginning to think that you suffer some form of paranoia with your approach.

Relax, take it easy, I haven't finished my 2 parts yet. 

And just one more thing,

I am Iban, I am Dayak and YOU HAVE NO RIGHT to come in here and accuse me of being any less Dayak. I will ask you to respect all members in this Rumah Panjai.

If you cannot explain yourself on that, then I don't want your apology. It's enough to know what kind of person you are already 

SFX

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