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| Posted by siti hisham, ex-Muslim on November 02, 2004 at 19:25:55 : All religions devote a lot of time telling the faithful how to conduct their sex lives. The debate over sex led to large bodies of recommendations, rules, and traditions. Judaism celebrates women as wives and mothers. Christianity does so as well and Catholicism goes a step further beatifying some women as saints. Islam, as actually practiced in Middle Eastern nations, has diverged from its purported theological grant of equality of the sexes. A quick look at the Judeo-Christian tradition shows how its creators felt conflicted about women. Eve, of course, gets the blame for the expulsion from Eden. If one reads the Ten Commandments, it is noteworthy they include injunctions against adultery and against coveting the wife of your neighbor. So sex and the problems that can arise from it were on the minds of the writers of the laws set forth for Jews. In both the Old and New Testaments, a great deal of thought is devoted to the relationship of men and women. There is even debate today over the relationship between Jesus and Mary Magdalene. The early Church fathers converted her from a beloved apostle of Jesus to a prostitute. When it comes to religion, women do not fare well. Muhammad, an Arab merchant with what appears to be a powerful sex drive, promulgated some significant changes as he put together Islam to bring the various Arabian tribes under his control. The most obvious change he instituted was the right of a man to have four wives. When Muhammad took a fancy to the wife of an adopted son, Ziad, a quick divorce ensued and a marriage followed (Koran 33:37). Muhammad was given special dispensation (Koran 33:50) to have a score of wives and concubines. His second wife after the death of his first was literally a child who was married off to him at the age of six and had her marriage consummated at age nine. He was 53 at the time. The notion of four wives is clearly out of step with the Judeo-Christian tradition of one man and one woman forming an exclusive union. Multiple marriages (for men only) were, however, an effective way for Muhammad to induce early converts to Islam. Moreover, under Islam, a man could also keep any number of concubines. There’s even a mechanism to sanction what we in the West would call “one night stands” called a “m’uta marriage.” It is banned by Sunnis, but reportedly still permitted by Shiites. In short, men were given license to satisfy their lust and, at the same time, produce more children to increase the population of Muslims. Muslim apologists maintain that women have equal rights, but Muslims recommend, above all other considerations, that a woman be a virgin when she marries and that she marry early. Islam appears to limit sex exclusively to marriage, but historically Muslim men were given access to as many women as they could afford, as wives, as concubine, or as “right hand possessions”, i.e., women captured in war. Conversely, sex between two unmarried people is regarded as “filthy.” Indeed, sex and hygiene is the subject of detailed attention. Islamic laws and traditions regarding sex are extensive and detailed. The most intimate details of sex are discussed and the actions to be taken before and after are described. Where Islam is the state religion, there is a pathological obsession with “modesty” that Westerners would call “puritanical” in terms of their own society. How much of the reaction throughout much of Middle Eastern Islam to Western attitudes and behavior about sex fuels the widespread terror war cannot be known. If Muslim men were to lose the actual control their society and culture exercises over women, it would undermine much of the reason to be a Muslim. Lust, however, has no religion. A religion that loses its control over this aspect of its adherents’ lives, is in trouble. Even in America, the power of religion to influence behavior is reflected in the battle over the issue of abortion and, now, same-sex marriages. Religious beliefs concerning the existence of God, modesty of dress and behavior, and fidelity remain strong in America, even if popular culture appears to flaunt them, but Hollywood rarely has reflected widely held beliefs based in Judeo-Christian traditions. This is not to say that religion anywhere is having much success curbing lust. The sex trade worldwide is rampant. Pornography has become a multi-billion dollar business, especially via the Internet. The Catholic Church is trying to deal with revelations of widespread pederasty among its priests. Episcopalians are facing a major church schism over the ordination of a homosexual bishop. Worldwide, films and television in many nations encourage a casual attitude toward sex. The spread of AIDS is testimony to the failure of both religions and governments to make much impact on this lethal disease. It would be a mistake to underestimate the reaction of fundamentalist Muslims regarding issues involving sex. This is not to suggest that Islam’s holy warriors are more or less lustful than any other people, but that their religion prohibits any open expression of sexual attraction, holding hands, kissing in public, or dressing provocatively. So, while Islam can be extraordinarily candid about sex, it still is something it wants restricted to the marriage chamber. Adultery can rate a death sentence in some Muslim nations. We now live in a time when fundamentalist elements of the Islamic population are waging a worldwide terror war to preserve the seventh century sexual traditions of a fringe culture and laws set down by a man whose own sex life must surely astonish and even appall any Muslim who examines it. When it comes to sex, the Islamic holy war is being fought in the name of a man who did not feel restrained by the rules of his own era. Many Muslims look upon the West with an arrogant sense of moral superiority. It’s not that Western behavior is anything to brag about, but it surely isn’t a good reason for which to be killed either. |
| Posted by Pastor on November 03, 2004 at 10:20:06: In Reply to : Christian God is dead posted by because Jesus Christ died on November 03, 2004 at 05:55:23: St Paul was the one who created all these mess until Prophet Jesus became God. He authored most of the NT and had deviated from what Jesus had taught, though he never met Jesus( but through a vision that blinded him as claimed). He was a jew, a christian persecuter and the '13th disciple' if one wish to promote him as one of Jesus' disciples. He was political with the Romans and his new teachings were somehow very influential, otherwise, there will be no difference between the Christian and the Muslims in their religious practice such as falling their face/head on the ground during prayer, fasting, pilgrimage, zakat, no wine, no swine etc. By promoting Jesus as God, being the dominon author of the New Testament and by receiving the vision, St Paul had actually wanted to tell the world that he is a prophet. But infact he was a 'false prophet' as described in the New Testament itself. The biggest mistake of all is that the helpless Jesus was turned into God of the Universe by impersonating a human being but eventually got killed by Romans, as in the case of Hercules legend . This actually makes the Romans feel good for killing a God'. But because of political reason, as the Romans are so powerful then, nobody dares to blame/condemn the Romans- maybe they helped fulfill and complete the prophecies. Sadly, Judas Ishcariot was made the scapegoat aka 'the traitor' though Judas had obediently followed the scripture as foretold. Without Judas 'the prophecies cannot be fulfilled and completed', there will be no crucifiction and atonement that could clear the sins, and there will no Christian religion as practiced today. Jesus himself will bear witness of what had happened. |
| Posted by as promised on November 23, 2004 at 03:06:58: In Reply to : Give me some moment in private I WILL COME BACK posted by with the WHY, WHAT and WHO you are !!! on November 22, 2004 at 23:42:34: What we believe: Some of us have embraced other religions but most of us have simply believe in modern religions (musics, hollywood, microsoft, stock exchange, weapon of mass destruction and America) without believing in any other traditional religion. We believe in humanity. We believe that humans do not need to follow a religion to be good. All we need to follow is the Golden Rule. All we have to do is to treat others they way we expect to be treated. This is the essence of all the goodness. Why we cannot be a prophet: One who claims to be a messenger of God is expected to live a saintly life. He must not be given to lust, he must not be a sexual pervert, and he must not be a rapist, a highway robber, a war criminal, a mass murderer or an assassin. One who claims to be a messenger of God must have a superior character. He must stand above the vices of the people of his time. Is there one from among us here without sins ? What is our goal? We do not advocate hate and violence. Our goal is to educate the younger generation of man and teach them right from wrong. We strive to bring the human nation into the fold of humanity. We would like to see all countries in the world dedicate more time to science and less time to conventional beliefs. We would like to see the people prosper and contribute to human civilization. We strive for freedom of beliefs, for equality of gender and for oneness of mankind. Who are we: We are the best creation of The Almighty. We must continue to uphold that pride so we don't become like animals. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * this document is computer generated, no signature is required - Postman – |
| - Steve Porky/ Ziad - Webmaster 06:24:03 11/02/2004
- Emm WEBMASTER, i think you're being too harsh - there... we all know ZIAD ain't Steve Porky 07:15:20 11/02/2004 - to defend Islam is ZIAD's obvious purpose in here - take away that purpose and ZIAD will be gone 07:20:20 11/02/2004 - what say you, ZIAD? Will you be quiet if the - Christians quit making fun of Islam in here? 07:23:00 11/02/2004 -007, it is NOT the Christians, but just 1 - particular atheist cursing Islam - ZIAD 08:10:05 11/02/2004 |
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