Sunday, April 23, 2000
You have just entered room "panta98 Chat11."
frogmobile has entered the room.
frogmobile:Hi
there, Franz.
panta98:Hello,
Easter Bugs Bunny!
frogmobile:No
eggs man!
panta98:Man,
you never find no thing!
frogmobile:But
bunny is alive and well.
panta98: As
the Guyanese say: you
are really bad, bad, bad!
frogmobile:Yea!
rub it in!
frogmobile:Is
today not supposed to be Holy Sunday?
panta98:I
see. ... but the Bunny's ears are slightly hanging down, by 90 degrees.
frogmobile:Well!
Whatever? Good Guy!
panta98:Well,
it is the holiest Sunday, after Christmas. Don't you smell the
resurrecting Spring air there? The shining
Sun?
frogmobile:I
am sick and tired of TV. All day there is a daily 'dose' of Elian on.
panta98:Oh,
yes! I got so bored about that, that I erased this ideological crap from
my mind!
panta98:So,
what will be the latest ideological gadget of the World State, of the
Globalization era?
frogmobile:It's
all about computer games, high-tech toys, gambling, etc.
panta98:A
few months ago, this Mind and Thought Control stuff really surprized
me. I did not realize that they were technologically
so highly developed in
indoctrination and manipultaion. What do you
think?
panta98:Which
"device" within the context of the new methods are they using in
education?
frogmobile:Mass
manipulation of ideas and beliefs.
frogmobile:You
have to remember people in general don't think -- not that they do
not
have the capacity to think -- however,
they are too busy, too ocupado, trying to survive.
panta98:Yes,
but their brains, their thinking is fading away; it's really noticeable.
panta98:I'm
surprized how shallow many people around us become.
panta98:I
don't buy that stuff: too "busy" to think, to struggle, to survive.
frogmobile: Obviously,
but they are also "developing" technologically. They are
learning everyday to use new intellectual based
products and services.
frogmobile: Greetings
to Jutta.
panta98: Thanks,
I'll pass them on to her.
panta98:I'm
busy like "hell", am also struggling to survive here in the Third World;
yet, my thinking improves every day.
panta98:
Jutta sends her greetings to you, too.
panta98:Hi!
Guy, where are you?
frogmobile:You
do not spend 10 to 12 hours to go to and from work, and have to
face the insecurity and uncertainties that the
folks have here. Its a very frightening
environment.
frogmobile:Everyday
they are told of some disaster or the other. If it is not the stock
market, then it's inflation, high interest rates
or something which threatens their economic existence,
dependence.
panta98: I
surely am aware of their misery, and I sympathize with them, but do you
mean that this is the real reason why billions of modern folks don't think?
panta98:Well,
at Marx's time, in England and on the Old Continent, the guys, even children,
worked in coal mines, underground in darkness, sometimes for 16 hours a
day, and they could still think, and even make the Revolutions of 1830
and 1848. In France, the workers even won, and then handed over their freshly
won power to the bourgeoisie.
frogmobile:What
I mean is, that the system itself is a threat and a tool of manipulation
and indoctrination. They think, but of other things irrelevant to their
being. The system is here much more controlling and manipulative as compared
to Marx's time.
panta98: I
don't accept that "long hours of tedious work" as the reason why billions
are being converted into Zombies. There must be another reason. To have
no "time" to think is not a cause, but a very carefully calculated effect,
to which all labouring social classes are victims; partially, even the
managerial sectors of the upper bourgeoisie itself, who perish of overwork,
stress and heart attacks.
panta98: What
do you think?
frogmobile:It
is a factor to consider. The workplace is the school of capitalist indoctrination.
frogmobile:Then
the media, of course, the government, probably, then the church.
panta98: It's
an old Mind Control trick to blame Father Time for everything, when in
reality Big Brother Capital is the cause of the thoughtlessness, of the
slave mentality of the toiling masses. And what about the leisure "time",
at home, in Rio, at the beach, at a party? Is Chronos also there the culprit,
generating brainlessness?
panta98:What
about the cretinism of Alice in Wonderland, of the workers in their sleep,
in their nightmares?
frogmobile:
That is not relevant.
panta98:Guy,
this discussion is getting most interesting.
frogmobile: On
Alice in Wonderland ... that's a good example to explain why so
many people in the developed world are so dependent
on anti-depressives,
cafein, cigarettes, booze, gambling, sports,
etc.
panta98: Agreed.
frogmobile:Do
you know that over 80% of the people in the Western world
consume the total world supply of prescription
drugs on the market?
panta98: Well,
guy! This world is sick, mentally sick, really crazy. It can't think anymore.
It's depressing, depressive! It seems to be totally
mind controlled already: 80% of the Western World are addicted to Ritalin,
Demerol and Prozac, and 85% of the Whole World are addicted to Godism &
Satanism. Oh! My God! What a Fatherland! It is sick, beyond salvation,
it is dying!
panta98:But,
what I meant before is, that Body, Mind and Thought Control are now being
carried out by highly sophisticated electronic and technological devices
within music, the radio, TV, the Computer, the telephone and even via satelite:
no more just across a miserable educational and socialization system.
panta98:The
Era of Orwell, of Big Brother, won't use such obsolete methods like
religion anymore, in spite of the fact that 85
percent of the world population are still "religious", still swallowing
the mystic opium.
frogmobile:That's
obvious, it's nothing new, compared to the past decades.
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You have just entered room "panta98 Chat49."
frogmobile has entered the room.
panta98:OK!
Guy! We should be bang on now. I rebooted!
frogmobile:Okay
Guy! I think there is a "holy spook" around here today.
panta98: It
must be the Easter or the Playboy Bunny, playing games with us. I was
talking about the new devices, used to manipulate, to programme the minds,
or what is left of them, of all sorts of "people".
frogmobile: In
specific cases there are many devices there to manipulate but on a
global scale there are other methods which we
spoke of ...
panta98:The
neo-capitalist system, some even call it post-industrial system, needs
a
neo-Platonian guardian class, to exercise world
military control.
frogmobile:The
CIA and KGB are the chief protagonists in this area.
frogmobile:They
are already controlling the world in a military fashion.
panta98:A
special type of "human being" has to be trained for this. The future
"producers" won't be just Tom, Dick and Harry,
who work so hard nowadays, that they
cannot even have time to think anymore, but a
highly sophisticated new type of Alpha- or Beta- or even Delta-beings.
A real Global Military Delta Force.
frogmobile: Yes!
I agree.
panta98:
Biogenetically,
by cloning, certainly since decades, they are already being
produced en masse.
panta98:Their
future food, the Demerol Tomato, which you and I eat now already, -
and we'll soon die, not only of hunger and thirst, when we leave the Super
Market - will be, among other delicacies, the Delta "daily bread". Also,
in the very near "future", the Theta Intellectual Slaves will devour not
"Fish & Chips" anymore, but will byte "Prozac & Chips".
frogmobile:That
is just a hype but has no real significance in terms of the growth of
capital.
panta98:Only
the new classes, the Intellectuals and the Military will enjoy the
future cloned delicatessen.
panta98:You
and I will be permanently sick, have the flu, stomach ache, and
eventually, billions like us will perish.
For this World "Holocaust" not even a "Hitler" would be
necessary. Billions, smokers and non-smokers,
fertile and sterile ones, the sick and the healthy, white and black, will
breathe, eat, swallow and drink themselves to death! Scientific test-tube
pestilence and WHO plague will manage the rest. Tribalism, Racism, Nationalism,
Fundamentalism and Terrorism will finally usher in the Global "Reign of
Terror".
frogmobile:On
the question of food, I agree. There is a campaign to control its production
and supply as a new form of accumulation.
frogmobile:The
need to accumulate new capital is the proof in the pudding.
panta98:
Excellent.
It's not quite such a hype: of course, the main realization of capital
now already is in the Production, Distribution and Consumption of Space
Business. But, as stated before, for the time being, the new Intellectual
Property, the Thetas, and the new Watchdogs, the Deltas, must still wine
and dine; for them hype food, junk food, are being, and will be produced.
frogmobile:I
spoke of hype in terms of the debate on cloning. Accumulatively it does
not produce new capital....! - At least, I don't think so.
panta98:Directly not, but indirectly,
even when it is only on a small scale. For
billions of physicallly labouring "human beings", already now, there
is no use, no use-value, on this planet anymore. They have to be annihilated
as soon as possible. This is the "trash" rule of capitalism. They don't
consume that what brings giga-profits; what they consume probably does
not even cover 5% of total world profits. ...
panta98: ... Imagine,
for the "millennium bug fraud", for the urgent test of effective Mind Control
methods, and how to cause Mass Hysteria, on a global scale, 400 000 000
000 Pounds Sterling were spent just like that. This sum, which was a huge
"Capital Holocaust', a programmed destruction of capital, would have paid
off FIVE times the TOTAL debts of all "developing countries". ...
panta98: ... Yet,
nearly everybody was hysterical, about Y2K, the modern, global case of
the "Emperor's New Clothes". About this Mass Psychology of Fascism, Wilhelm
Reich had warned already many decades ago.
panta98:The
real future consumers, the "intellectual labourers" and the watch-dogs,
including the ruling creme de la creme, have to be conserved
in tins, preserved in outer space travelling test-tubes, á la Star
Trek! Concerning the "hype", agreed, Khalid. But I was explaining something
else, see above.
frogmobile: Ah!
Hold it there. Whatever they consume is part and parcel of capital
accumulation. They provide jobs in service industries
via shipping, packaging and
advertising, ....
frogmobile: ... Not
necessarily. I don't agree.
panta98:Of
course, there is a new ideology, which concerns technology, and the
"thinking" of these new classes: e.g., The Conspiracy
Theory, and "Mind Control".
panta98:The
problem is that billions are already nearly totally "controlled", and are
already off their "minds".
frogmobile: Look
at Sillicon Valley as an example, the system is so greedy that a
single tomato costs 1$. Guess why?
frogmobile: Remember
this is the bed of Intellectual Labor
panta98:Furthermore,
conspiracy theory does not explain anything about the economico-politico-military
essence of the so-called New World Order. Along the ancient Tigris,
Euphrates, Indus and Ganges, Yangtse-Kiang and
Hwang-Ho, there had existed already innumerable "conspiracies". We had
to wait 10 000 years, for Capitalism to teach us all about "Conspiracy
Theory"!
I know that many are tantalized by "Conspiracy
Theory", and there are sophisticated "conspiracies" going on all over;
still, we need not go to this eternal James Bond movie, every second, wasting
precious "time" to act, to think, to excel!
panta98:So,
my dear Khalid, what is really going on?
panta98:Why,
such expensive tomatoes?
frogmobile:A
car cost not less than $100,000.
panta98:So,
how are billions of physical labourers going to consume, to realize
capital, to make giga-profits? To buy such "cheap"
cars?
panta98:Who
really consumes, who consumes and consummates the highest realization of
capital, of profits, now already?
frogmobile:Its
because the system expresses itself in greed. They know that the
intellectual workers earn the most, so the prices
are up to one's throat. The
intellectual laborers have become a double whammy
of "exploitation" in their own
backyard. Remember the high costs of services
and products are only in this
specific area.
panta98:The
poor future physical labourers! They'll die of hunger and thirst. The problem
is simply, that it is not simple Mind Control which is going on, but Mind
Alteration, Thought Configuration, Personality Modification, both physically
and intellectually.
frogmobile:Because
they know that the Intellectual Laborers have the means to pay.
panta98:Science
has advanced so far already, that the old school habits, the
propaganda of mass media, even religion and ideolgy,
areall progressively becoming already obsolete.
frogmobile:Yes!
I agree.
panta98:There
are more sophisticated ways than obsolete socialization mechanisms to achieve
the appropriate Mind Modification in future, with less cost, and less social
problems.
panta98:This
is what is already going on, the framework of all these must first be laid
on
a global scale.
panta98:The
Fall of the Wall of Berlin, was the decision of Globalization, to change
over, and to let it's own Frankenstein creation,
the Soviet Union, fall. It was high time for
the next stage of World Fascism, of which Reich
and Orwell had warned.
frogmobile: There
is no need any more to necessarily use the media to ideologize the
masses. The media takes its queue from an already
understood and accomplished
base.
frogmobile:Its
a given fact.
frogmobile:The
biggest crisis yet to come is in the area of food production and
natural resources.
panta98:Yes,
you see what I mean. In Britain they wan to pass a law, that all future
born babies, should have an implanted chip, that
eventually will be identified and controlled by
satellite.
panta98:Now,
already cars have this, so that stolen ones can be tracked by
satellite. For other reasins, cars in Germany
have already their chips; only the drivers have still to wait for a while.
frogmobile:If
the genetic methods of food production succeed on an world scale, just
think of the consequences
frogmobile:The
cars now have their own " black box".
panta98:There
won't be any billions left to search for food; they will be fertilizers
for
the Ritalin Tomatoes, used in spacecraft, in
NASA "Alien" Flying Saucers. I heard that Hitler already escaped in one
of them.
panta98:Yes,
soon you'll have your own blackbox chip too, no cedula anymore.
panta98:A
food revolution already took place centuries ago, more recently, at the
time of the Neolithic revolution, during the age of agriculture, and the
new peasants survived; a new food revolution took place in the 19th century,
the
peasants perished, but the proletariat and the
bourgeoisie survived; a new genetic, cloned Food revolution is being ushered
in, and billions of physical drones will
perish like flies; the Thetas and deltas, together
with their Lord, their warlords, their overlords, will survive; I can assure
you, there will be no future food crises, by 2050. Don't worry about your
empty belly, worry about the coming stomach aches.
frogmobile:It
is not all any more a case of ideology, manipulation (they have
accomplished that phase of developement already)
but it would be from now on a
a very sophicated system of technological "mind"
control.
panta98:Now
you begin to talk my language. You are waking up. man.
frogmobile:Thank
you, man, but before I reached your langauge, I had to elaborate
on the introduction to the epicentre of our theory.
panta98:Nothing
about demographic problems, about the birth control or explosion, about
water and food crises; how to solve these for
the future "classes", that has been planned and
solved long ago already. War-mongers, Profit-moguls
and Watch-mongrels work day and night for the divine consummation of the
global system.
panta98:The
obsolete educational crap, inherited from Plato's Republic is now already
stale ideology. No wonder that the Social Sciences and the classical schools
and universities are going to the dogs, and that you are already un-employed.
frogmobile:The
sad thing, Franz, is that very few have recognized what is happening.
panta98:Even
if you tell a controlled and modified "mind" a zillion times what is going
on, (s)he will still consider you to be loco de remate. Long, long
ago, I have given up to "conscientize" anybody, to change stones into bread,
and water into wine. This I leave to Jesus ... and to the "Marxists".
panta98:You
see, what I mean.
frogmobile:Do
you know that even this chat is being monitored and scanned? How
do you think they caught "mafia-boy" the hacker
that closed down all the computer
systems a few months ago?
panta98:To
tell you the truth, if you really have an inkling of an idea, on what is
really going on at present, you won't have night-mares,
you would have vomit-mares.
panta98:No
problem, guy! For that AOL was always "good".
frogmobile: True!
it very frightening... Big Brother Is Watching You!!
panta98:Worse
even, soon they'll scan your very brain. That would be more
efficient, than to use one of those obsolete
method, which involves, excluding the few excellent ones, ten thousands
of stupid chats and e-mails.
panta98:Why
scan the chats of millions of fabricated "idiots", who cannot differentiate
an A from
a B?
panta98:A
real threat, a "hornet", a sore-spot to the system, won't chat "secrets"
on AOL.
There you won't go and look for a dangerous guy!
Furthermore, we form no threat whatsoever to this world system. We're small
fry, a negligible quantity!
frogmobile:I
feel that the whole "world scenario" is already "out of" control. The
reason and danger is, that too many fragments
of capital have different aspects or
segements of technological power.
panta98:Well,
you are talking about atomization, about merging, about "things falling
apart", about Death. As I always said, to be one second ahead, one millimeter
ahead, then
you could do and say, exactly that what "Big
Brother" least expects.
frogmobile:And
they are all competiting on ways and means to use them.
panta98:Have
you ever studied Death, the process of dying?
panta98:Well,
if you did, then you can see all the features of a dying vulture,of a "dying
culture" (Christopher Caudwell) in front of your eyes.
frogmobile:When
the disaster arrives, it will be too late to look back.
frogmobile:And
point to the real scource.
panta98:There
is no forward, no backward, it is to look now already: to gaze at Labour,
at Alienation, at Death.
frogmobile:I
agree we are in the dying phase.
frogmobile:Well,
guy, let's shake the doom and gloom.
panta98:Neither
back nor forward, just straight, straight into your own self, into
your Being a n d Existence AND Excellence.
And what this all means, you decide
by, of and for yourself.
panta98:That's
what I did and said for the last decade, already in the last millennium.
panta98:Doom,
Gloom will Zoom you into Emancipation.
panta98:Still
there, guy?
panta98:Or
are you looking for a sweet witch with a broom?
frogmobile:The
sad thing is: there is no resistance or counter spin to the orgy
of
disaster ideology and technology in the making
panta98:
Or do you prefer a Muslim "Flying Carpet"?
It would be more effective! Ask Jim Jones for one.
frogmobile:What
of those "nuts" that believe in flying saucers?
panta98:There
never ever was meant to be a "counter-spin" in Labour, in this
world order; just like religion, change within
the system, revolution, was always
ideology, fantasy!! Even you and I fell for this
macabre joke!
panta98:Guy,
don't fall off your chair, now!
panta98:Don't
call me a counter-revolutionary!
panta98:I
have no interest in changing anything within or without capitalism and
imperialism:
there is nothing to "change" there.
frogmobile:Well
said, and we will never have an alternative potent dose of reasoning
and interpretation of the real truth of the disaster
in the making.
panta98:I
have it now already, I'm telling it to you ever since an hour!
frogmobile:Again,
well said
panta98:You
are learning fast.
panta98:I
never thought that I could still teach you something more about martial
laws.
panta98:You
are already better than your teacher.
panta98:But
he kept a few tricks hidden from you, so that you wouldn't k.o. him one
time.
panta98:Guy,
where are you, knocked out, like south?
frogmobile: "We
are" all fast merrily marching to the drums of the death path; the
stench is too much for our noses, so we should
just pretend that we aren't smelling
anymore....!
frogmobile: In
that way, we will be around sane and sound to see the next Spring.
panta98:
We
have more senses than just five or seven, and our additional ones definitely
smell a rat, this is why we are not interested
anymore to go on a revolutionary
wild-goose chase, or on a Sunday afternoon window-shopping
spree.
frogmobile: However
the orgy of the many warning variables are sufficient to
wake-up even the dead from the cemetry.
panta98:
Explain
further, Khalid.
frogmobile:No
wonder "we are" are all claiming to see ghosts.- Explain what?
panta98:The
greatest ghost that we ever saw, was that image of the world which has
been painted
for us until now, from the cradle to our everyday
grave.
frogmobile:You
have me laughing now, good guy.
panta98:
I
laugh too. But, continue. ...
frogmobile:Ghosts!
Is it Mr. Turner paying us a visit? ... Watch out!
panta98:Well,
guy, they told us stories about Green Martians and Flying Saucers,
only to discover that the real ones fly out from
the NASA bases.
panta98:They
told us about Allah and God, only to discover that they are the real gods,
and that we are not even "human beings".
panta98: And
how many "idiots" still believe, that they are "human"?! They are totally
controlled, mind-controlled beyond salvation.
frogmobile: Turner
already took you for a shake and bake "walk" in the wilderness of
"his" world. Now he can wake himself up again,
because the marching death
drums are beating heavier and heavier.
panta98:
Now,
it seems we see ghosts, but the matter of fact is, these are no ghosts
but realities -
hidden from our ideologically controlled minds.
panta98: It's
about time we left the Platonic Cave of Ideology and Mind Alteration, and
sang: "See The Light!!!"
frogmobile: Boom!
Boom! Boom! The faint cries looms, the tears flow enough to
make a solemn meadow of rememberances of what
used to be life, once upon a time.
panta98:You
cannot imagine what casting the "shit" out of our heads really implies;
we have to ged rid of a whole arsenal of ghosts, even Time and Space, Life
and Death, are part of the ghosts, of the lies.
panta98:
All
through your life you were not told a single truth, which contradicted
Labour and Capital.
frogmobile: Lies
and more lies.
panta98:
So,
imagine what is in that head of yours!
panta98:And
in the heads of billions.
frogmobile: A
mirror image of what society has taught me!
frogmobile: Guy,
I've got to go now. Let's continue another day.
panta98:
They
fabricated flying saucers, and have had them since half-a-century ago,
only to tell the "idiots" of this world the "bull shit", that flying saucers
come from Mars.
panta98: In
the same way, they told everybody, that after death, they'll walk into
the arms of Jesus,
on the "stairway to heaven". Accordingly, the
billions of "idiots" celebrate the resurrection of Jesus today.
panta98: I don't want to hurt
the feelings of anyone, but it hurts my deepest feelings, to see how billions
are being bamboozled daily! Alright, guy!
I'm tired, too.
frogmobile: I
am now seeing the "ghosts" in this darkness that I am in, so I must put
on the luces for the night.
frogmobile:Take
care good guy!
panta98:
It
was a great pleasure indeed to learn something from you, Khalid.
frogmobile: And
in return, to learn from you, Franz! Greet Jutta for me.
frogmobile: Bye-
bye!
panta98:
I
see, we learn from each other, we learn from US!
panta98:Bye
Khalid!
frogmobile: Bye
Franz!