**THE END,THE END,THE END!!


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Posted by Bibleman [Bibleman] on October 29, 1999 at 16:56:30 {CAtoZJLIp2MRXA6xmpscslyACFuF8c}:

In Reply to: *THE END,THE END,THE END!! posted by Ranger on October 29, 1999 at 15:47:16:

I certainly can agree here, except Brother Kyle's chronology was a bit in error as well.

But this is really a test of Bible faith. That's because once you realize the 70-weeks prophecy MUST be fulfilled by Cyrus, then the chronology takes care of itself.

But I can see now part of my task is breaking down the old ideas of Kyle and Ptolemy, even COJ and others. So here goes.

There are no contemporary documents from the middle of the reign of Nebuchadnezzar onward.

Why? Because they destroyed them when they revised the chronology of the Neo-Babylonian period. You need to ask where are the contemporary records from this period.

There are no astronomical texts from this era either and there should have been hundreds recovered?

Why?

Because astronomical texts give away the original dating and they had to be destroyed when the history and chronology was finally decided upon and resolved, and new chronology applied to old astronomical texts.

So what happened?

If we date 455BCE as the 1st of Cyrus instead of 537BCE there is an 82-year discrepancy, that is, an expansion of the Persian period that pushes that event back in time from 455BCE to 537BCE.

So what happened was first, in order to claim that Xerxes and Artaxerxes were father and son when in fact they are the same king, they adjusted the reign and thus age of Darius I. He only ruled for six years (Ezra 6:14,15) but they added the standard generation of 30 years and made it 36 years. That made it easy to correct the records since they used a decimal system.

But these years were first added to his reign by stealing historical years from the Neo-Babylonian period and that is why the current Neo-Babylonian period shows only a 47-year period from the 19th year of Nebuchadnezzar to the 1st of Cyrus in 539BCE. But there is plenty of evidence that there was actually 74 years from the fall of Jerusalem until the 1st of Cyrus.

They then, of course, claimed Xerxes and Artaxerxes were father and son and invented a 21-year rule for Xerxes. But Artaxerxes still claimed a 41-year rule. So there were still problems chronologically. As a result, Greek historians adjusted their history and another 58 years were added to the overall history. The 58 years and the 26 years basically represent the 84-year discrepancy at the time of the first of Cyrus.

So in order to get rid of those years, you just reduce the 36-year rule of Darius back down to 6 (gaining 30), and reduce totally the 21-year rule of Xerxes (gaining 51), and reduce the ridiculously long 47-year rule of Artaxerxes II by 30 years down to 17 (gaining 81). You also gain 4 more years due to the 4-year co-rulership of Xerxes and Darius (gaining 85). But the 21-year rule of Darius I is reduced to 19 years (gaining us 83 years), and a co-rulership year between Cyrus and his son Kambyses who reigned only for 7 years but is claimed to have ruled 8, gains us one more year (bumping us back up to 84 years).

And there you have the 84-year discrepancy. That is, from the 1st of Cyrus 455BCE versus the year he became king at Babylon in 539BCE is 84 years.

How do we know this chronology was changed?

Well first of all, the Bible's chronology. And second, all the records this chronology is based upon are copied, revised documents. That's the biggest clue. And thirdly, even though they did restructure their astronomical texts, they also found ways of hiding astronomical data from the original chronology and it is those discoveries that confirm what the original chronology was, which is totally consistent with the Bible's chronology which dates the fall of Jerusalem in 529BCE.

Problem is, I'm finding, is that lots of people just dismiss the information regarding the conspiracy without checking it, ignore the Bible's chronology and think they know something and they don't. They don't even bother checking it out. So the old chronology persists and persists.

Until people stop listening to Kyle and Ptolemy and others, though, and start seriously taking the Bible's chronology as fact, they will not progress spiritually enough to understand Bible prophecy affecting our day.

And that's the situation now. The WTS' 1914 date which is wrong by 78 years (should be 1992) causes them not to be able to understand the chronology of the last days correctly. So they are just stumbling in the dark at this point.

Thanks for your note. Kyle is a "bad wife" when it comes to chronology.

Cheers,
Bibleman



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