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Posted by Tantalus [Tantalus] on October 29, 1999 at 17:35:20 {CAtoZJLIp25mhrmu9.YkAJToxO4pJo}:

In Reply to: ****RE: POST FOR everyone posted by Cheeky on October 29, 1999 at 16:08:24:

Cheeky,
The changes I would effect are to deep to be really peaceful. For instance, I think you too are in the new covenant, I think Jesus is your mediator too. I don't see how your sins are covered if he isn't, do you? I think the group that is charge is so guilty, of destroying families, of giving medical advice that really caused people to die needlessly, of perverting scripture and selling their version as truth. Pretty serious stuff to me. Of course, I have more or less lost a daughter over it unless she turns against it. Though I have commited no sin except doubting the Society, she sees it as a choice between me and Jehovah. The Society and Jehovah are one to her. I think you see it the same way, judging from your wording: "that you would still keep walking with Jehovah" I think I need to commit some sin besides doubting the organization before you say I am not on Jehovah's side, don't you? No one is to add to the good news as presented in the New Testament. From the WT-CD:

But it is not another; only there are certain ones who are causing YOU trouble and wanting to pervert the good news about the Christ. 8 However, even if we or an angel out of heaven were to declare to YOU as good news something beyond what we declared to YOU as good news, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said above, I also now say again, Whoever it is that is declaring to YOU as good news something beyond what YOU accepted, let him be accursed.

To me it has become obvious that this group has added so much beyond what Paul and the other's preached. Don't you think they have added a lot? Added, then subtracted, then added again in many cases. No, just because they are a group who takes the name of Jehovah as part of their title does not make them synonymous with Jehovah. I believe they have a lot to answer for and I believe anyone who looks closely enough in an open minded way at where they came from, what they teach and how they run things will have to say that they have indeed "gone beyond" and even perverted the good news as preached in the bible.
They talk a lot of love, but what do they show? Families divided, not because they committed fornication, or stole, or blasphemed, but because they questioned dates, asked for scriptural proof for doctrines that go beyond the bible and doubt this manmade group that claims to be humble while proclaiming themselves kings and priests and the only ones Christ is the mediator for. Read again
in 1 Timothy 2:4-7, once again from the CD:

4 whose will is that all sorts of men should be saved and come to an accurate knowledge of truth. 5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself a corresponding ransom for all-[this is] what is to be witnessed to at its own particular times. 7 For the purpose of this witness I was appointed a preacher and an apostle-I am telling the truth, I am not lying-a teacher of nations in the matter of faith and truth.

Think about it. I don't proclaim myself to be anything. I am too angry to claim to be a good Christian, but I do think this is pretty open and easy to see. The only way to take verse 5 is how it is written. They reverse it, add brackets to say [not all men] and teach that perversion as truth. That Christ died to beome mediator only for 144,000. That the New Testament and New Covenant only includes them. Nope, I can't swallow it. I hope it sticks in your craw too, and pray it will one day be obvious to my parents and daughter. For now if I try to talk to them about it they will treat me as dead. Does that seem right to you? Be open minded, pray about it.
Tantalus


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