There are at least two Living Masters in the world at this time. One is Maharaj Gurinder Singh Ji, and the other is Michael Martin.
Michael Martin
Sat Guru for the Western World
http://makeashorterlink.com/?Q146128FA
Karen: I'll try to help you out here: Mr. Martin asserts that he can bring salvation to human beings just like Jesus - *if* you follow Mr. Martin as his disciple, that is. Otherwise...you're doomed and destined to Hell. Mr. Martin claims to be the RadhaSoami Satguru (the Living Master) of the Western World, as you see from his proclamation above. He claims that frequently. "The Living Master" Michael Martin, has been exposed many times (or rather ... has exposed himself) on various groups as the TRUE fraud he is, but that doesn’t stop him. Humility is not his strongest side.
This one is interesting too, here's Michael Martin’s reply to one of countless exposures. Somebody suggested that he is a troll:
M.M: "What about a message about how to deal with people who give advice about trolls? Should we just ignore them? Walt Whitman, a True Master, wrote, "I will recruit with you as I go." Christ said, "I will make you fisher's of men." I don't think it would be wise to ignore the Living Masters. In fact, we would be wasting a priceless opportunity. A Living Master is the way to salvation. Every Master has had a Master. If they needed a Master, then we will, too. It's pretty simple logic.
Michael Martin
Western Sat Guru"
Karen: Here you see that the great american poet Walt Whitman is a Saint (God incarnated) also. I had some lengthy discussions with Michael about Shakespeare being God's son, and thus a Saint and Jesus-figure!! Besides pointing out to Mr. Martin, that neither Shakespeare, Emily Dickinson, Walt Whitman, R.W. Emerson etc…etc... were Saints sent to Earth to collect sheep for God, I also pointed out that his huge (yet fragile) ego, shows a tremendous lack of humility, so for that reason *also*, he is for sure not a true Master. He is more likely a mentally ill person hearing voices. The characteristics of some mental illnesses (like Schizophrenia) is however a lack of disease-awareness, so it’s impossible to urge Mr. Martin to see a psychiatrist and get the medication he needs.
Dr. David Lane posted the following in September 1997:
"GURU Martin writes:
Yes, brother, I do have a right to collect sheep, especially if the Lord has appointed me to do it. Once, someone asked Maharaj Charan Singh Ji, "Does the Lord always appoint a successor by means of a written will?" Maharaj Ji replied, "The Lord knows best how to appoint someone." [Very convinient answer! Karen] Yes, one could read a book, and claim to be a doctor, but I have all the spiritual power and knowledge to back me up.
Best Wishes,
Michael Martin
David Lane REPLIES:
But Oh Holy Texan you left out your most impressive trait: your wonderful humility. Your modesty is so amazing.
[David Lane]
M.M: "Dear Dr. David Lane,
This morning in meditation, the Lord also pointed out to me, that I need to be a bit more humble. So, you are right. I'm going to work on that.
The Lord wants me to do his work, but I have to do it in the way, he wants me to do it. He'll correct me, if I get out of hand.
Best Wishes,
Michael"
The rest is here: http://makeashorterlink.com/?F115128FA
Karen: If and when you argue with Mr. Martin, he will be very angry and threaten you with "God's anger" and "Satan". He once did that to
Dr. Lane.
Michael Martin writes to D. Lane: (I quote only part of the letter):
"[...] but sometimes the Lord is rather serious about his orders. He again appeared in my meditation, and reiterated, that if that type of posting continues, the disciple in question will get a physical punishment, and it would be a painful one, physically. [...]"
DAVID LANE REPLIES:
You know, Oh Mafia Guru, if you take out the "God-talk" in your essay, you have just made a threat of physical harm against me. Throw "God" into the equation and you can start bantering about threats of physical violence. I seriously think you should check yourself in at the nearest clinic (I am quite serious, by the way), or take this act on the road and become the opening act at the Comedy Club on Sunset. That way you will either get some medical help or you will get some "intentional" laughs. As for "visions" of Charan [Singh] and the like, you are a poster boy for my argument that even scum bags can pose as gurus (by the way, you just moved up to Number 6 on the list). I should also add that I forwarded your post to the FBI........
keep up the enlightened work!
dave.
Source: http://makeashorterlink.com/?Z4F5258FA
Karen: More coming from Dr. David Lane: [Posted by 'happy-shine'...it seems that M.M. is now at the top of Dr. Lane's list. Neural Surfer is Dr. Lane's alias].
"THE NEURAL SURFER'S TOP SEVEN LIST OF SCUM BAG GURUS Or, Gurus You Would NOT Bring Home to Mother.
#7. Michael Martin (either this guy is working on his comedy act or he's one of the weirdest wanna-be gurus in the business. Apparently he was initiated by the late Charan Singh of R.S. Beas in 1964. However, after Charan appointed Gurinder Singh as his successor in 1990, Michael got the "enlightened" idea that he too was a Perfect Master in the Sant Mat lineage. He claims to have been directly commissioned by Anami Purush ITSELF (nice touch of humility here)[Anami Purush=The supreme Being or God]. I wouldn't even know about this cat unless his secretary wrote to me asking that Sat Guru Michael Martin be put on the Radhasoami Master Directory. A few days later I hear from the God-man himself, claiming that "God" was mad at me for not putting Michael on my Neural Surfer website. Just think: God's pissed because Guru Mike can't get web space. The Internet even has the Supreme Lord on hold; I guess his modem is 1200 bps and his lap top a 386 with little memory. In any case, Michael goes on to tell me about my past life as some highly placed Egyptian (no dates, no specifics, of course). Allegedly I am going to suffer from "God" because I am not giving Michael due reverence on my home page. According to Guru Mike, in another life when I screwed up, I was born as a gorilla....... Gorilla? Yep, that's right: from Egyptian Rich Dude to Hairy Gorilla in the Mist. Guru Mike also claims to be all-knowing. When I asked him to prove it by undergoing a simple test, he point blank refused. So easy to claim "God-hood", so very difficult to verify it. I would have put this wanna-be guru higher on my list, but I am partial to gorillas. "
[end of Dr. Lanes scum bag guru list]
And 'happy-shine' who posted the above written by David Lane, finishes with an explanation: Yes, Sat Guru Michael Martin is a fellow Satsangi of Dr. Dave. As you know, Dave falls within the western Territory, but refuses to follow Sat Guru Martin, still clinging tenaciously to the memory of his beloved Charan Singh.
Dave has already made accomadations for his snub of Guru Martin. He figures that the San Diego Zoo will take him in his next incarntion as a gorilla. The plan for the next life is to escape the zoo and spend the rest of his gorilla days body surfing at Point Panic. A collection is being taken up to buy Web space for Guru Martin to save Dave from the wrath of this Godman. Of course, this will thwart Dave's hedonistic plans for the next incarnation, but that's OK. Provided we placate Guru Martin, we may be able to get Dave back as a higher form of life than a gorilla---a chimpanzee test subject in the laboratory of Francis Crick.
Source: http://makeashorterlink.com/?T5B5218FA
Karen: To give you more examples I found some posts where M.M. 'discusses' with a few other people of the Radhasoami faith. I chose some bits to illustrate; If you want to read all, here is the link to the entire discussion: http://makeashorterlink.com/?J4504140B The story is this: People wanted M.M. to cut down on *his truth* and respect others in the group - or find another play ground; they were getting real tired of him acting as if he was a Sat Guru.
# 16 in the thread: M.M: I discussed this situation with His Holiness Anami Purush (=God) last night. He told me "You can go there." His answer was in reference to alt.meditation.shabda. IOW, I have a right to post there. Recently, he told me my postings were a "Very Good Seva." He further said, "Not long ago a member of a royal family died, and now that person is a cockroach. That person offended me." I suggest you read, cogitate, and ponder, that last sentence, Mr. Turner.
Michael Turner: So you call it mudslinging because we don't think you are a "true master?"
One could argue that you are the discriminatory mudslinger because you don't think anyone else on the planet is "awakened" besides yourself
and Charan Singh. You dismiss all other paths except your own - there's a perfect example of discrimination.
(later in the same thread):
# 37, MM: Even having this guideline, we still need to go "inside," to know the truth about the Living Master. We still need to have as much faith as a grain of mustard seed. If we try to judge the Master by his fruits, then we might make an inaccurate judgment. We need to start with faith and know the Master internally. There is no other way. I have posted that hundreds and maybe thousands of times.
(and later, same thread):
# 62, MM: I don't remember the exact words of my quote from the Bible. I think it goes something like this, "The judgment which you mete out to others will be meted out to you on judgment day." It is not an exact quote, I know that, but that is the general meaning and it is in the Bible.
Bruce Morgen: It seems extraordinarily difficult for Michaelji to post anything without using fear. Throughout history, those who aspire to authority have attempted to establish control through fear.
MM: This is the law of karma, Bruce. The wise man will try to sow good seeds so he won't have to reap a bad crop. You can call that fear of reaping a bad crop if you want. I call it just being wise. What that really means is, if we are willing to have a forgiving attitude towards those who have sinned against us, then the Lord will be inclined to have a forgiving attitude towards us. On the other hand, if we do not forgive others, and have an attitude that we must be paid back everything to the milligram, then the Lord will also have that strict judgment on us, when that judgment day comes. That is what it means.
Michael Turner: What it really means, Mr. Martin, is that you can't seem to shake your Texan Southern Baptist upbringing - particularly the Old Testament's use of judgement and fear of hellfire and damnation as tools for manipulating people into following you. That's an old paradigm from a long bygone era (error), Mr. Martin, and has long since worn out its welcome. Samuel was good in his time, but Christ's message of divine love and forgiveness superceded him. As Jesus once said, Moses gave you the law; now I give you divine Truth and Grace.
Come and join the brother and sisterhood of love which is the essence of Anami Desh.
Love and Truth,
G. Michael Turner
Spiritual Freedom Satsang
(Karen - and on it goes):
#73,Bruce Morgen: One cannot give what one does not have, George. [George was not saying much in this discussion].
MM: One can give what one has, Bruce.
Bruce: Not necessarily. I have my sanity, but I cannot give to you.
MM: The Sat Guru owns everything.
Bruce: "The Sat Guru" is not here and not at issue.
MM: Soami Ji Maharaj wrote, "In the realm of the White Lotus, Sat Guru is Sat Nam." Sat Nam is the True Lord.
The White Lotus is in Sach Khand, our True Home.
Bruce: Understood, but you, sir, are none of these.
MM: Christ said, "If you reject me, there is one who will judge you."
Bruce: He's not here either.
MM: No, he's not, but that is good advice he gave us, nevertheless.
Bruce: Concerning the pointings of authentic realizer, it is sound advice. The sincere and loving need not fear judgement.
MM: He meant that if we reject the Living Master, we will be judged by Satan.
Bruce: Nonsense.
MM: He was not trying to establish control through fear.
Bruce: No, he wasn't.
MM: No, he wasn't, and neither is Michael Martin.
Bruce: Are you now speaking of yourself in the third person a la Senator Dole?
I guess it's an improvement on referring to youself as "Sat Guru," "Western Mystic," Perfect Master," "Saint," etc.
MM: I believe that is what you said my intentions were, Bruce.
Bruce: I certainly did, I see your fearmongering as an attempt to frighten people into your sphere of influence.
MM: I am just lovingly trying to help people avoid Hell, just as Christ did. My intentions are just the same as his were.
Bruce: You're dreaming again.
MM: He just wanted to try to help the people.
Bruce: He was doing love's bidding.
M.M: That is what Michael Martin is doing, also.
Bruce: I'm sure that's what he thinks he's doing.
Karen: I didn't have to search for long to find tons of posts like these. It's *very* difficult to find positive replies to Michael Martin from anybody; every discussion quickly developes into a negative direction, because of M.M.'s assertions and claims to Master-hood. Actually I find his behaviour most appalling; mental illness or not! I truly believe, that serious seekers should have a chance to avoid this false Guru Michael Martin. To follow him is potentially dangerous to unstable souls - and could cause a mental breakdown. If that happens to anyone, Michael Martin will not be able to help - he is not trained for that, he can't even help himself with his own mental disorder.
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