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Symantec Ghost 8 and Norton Ghost 2003 (Part 3)

 

Topics on this page (continued from Part 2):

[5] Running Norton Ghost 2003 in DOS to backup and restore a Windows partition

  • [5.1] Backup
  • [5.2] Restore

[6] Running Norton Ghost in DOS to clone a hard disc to a new hard disc

[7] Running Norton Ghost in DOS to back up and restore peer-to-peer networked computer drives

  • [7.1] Making a Ghost boot floppy for Peer-to-Peer network support
  • [7.2] To backup and restore two computers via TCP/IP in Peer-to-Peer mode
    • [7.2.1] Backup
    • [7.2.2] Restore

[8] Norton Ghost and Ghost 8 (ghost.exe): DOS Options

 

 

5. Running Symantec and Norton Ghost in DOS to backup and restore a Windows partition

5.1. Backup

Install Norton or Symantec Ghost and make bootable floppies or CD as detailed in Part 1. Set your computer BIOS to boot from floppy or CD before the hard disc in the BIOS. The GUI in DOS and the steps are similar for Symantec Ghost and Norton Ghost so both are discussed together with screenshots from both.

If the mouse or the laptop keypad doesn't work in DOS, use the keyboard arrows, tab and shortcut keys (indicated by underlined letters in the selections) to navigate and ENTER to make a choice.

You will first see this message when booting up with Norton Ghost boot disc (fig. 1). This message is similar whether you use floppy or CD to boot.

Ghost booting PC DOS

Fig. 1. Ghost booting PC DOS.

 

If you boot with Symantec Ghost 8 floppy or CD there is an extra option to choose from: Ghost boot disk (floppy) or Ghost bootable CD. Choose the option that corresponds to your scenario (fig. 2). You will be prompted for the second boot floppy.

Symantec Ghost Startup Menu boot option

Fig. 2. Symantec Ghost Startup Menu boot option

 

When all the drivers and ghost.exe have been loaded, the Ghost 8 DOS GUI main menu appears. Figure 3 shows the Ghost 8 DOS GUI menu which is similar to Norton Ghost 2003's menu except for the extra GhostCast option (which you won't need).

To make a backup of a partition to a Ghost image, use the mouse or keyboard arrows to select Local > Partition > To Image.

If you wish to backup a partition to a partition, choose Partition > To Partition, you need a dedicated partition space of the same size or greater. It can be used to clone an old hard disc to a new one. It is somewhat similar to copying a partition using Partition Magic.

Ghost 8 GUI, main menu

Fig. 3. Ghost 8 GUI, main menu.

 

The difference between backing up to an image and a partition is that an image is a file (or set of spanned files) and takes up less space than a partition (less than half the space with the Fast compression setting; even more with the High setting: see below) but a partition is like a normal Windows partition which is accessible in Windows Explorer. A Ghost image can be accessed and modified using Ghost Explorer.

Next, select the local source drive - meaning the hard disc, not any specific partition (fig. 4). Click on the appropriate drive to highlight it, then OK.

Select local source drive

Fig. 4. Select local source drive.

 

Then select the source partition from the drive you have selected; click to highlight it and then OK (fig. 5). Note that it recognises both NTFS and FAT32. It supports Linux partitions too.

Select source partition

Fig. 5. Select source partition

 

Next, select the location for the image (use the mouse or keyboard to select under the Look in drop-down list if there is more than one drive) and type a name for the ghost image file (fig. 6). Then click Save. The image file description is optional. Adding a date and descriptive name to the ghost file is usually sufficient to identify it later even for more than one set of images.

If you have a CD or DVD writer (and properly detected in DOS), its drive letter and name will appear on the list of drives and you can write directly to CDR/RW or DVDR/RW. Ghost will automatically split and span the images and prompts you to insert the discs as it proceeds.

Select file location and file name.

Fig. 6. Select file location and file name.

 

The next window prompts you for the type of compression. The message "not enough space" would normally not appear if the destination drive has enough space but it will always prompt you for compression settings (fig. 7).

Select compression.

Fig. 7. Select compression.

 

Another window asks for confirmation or cancellation (fig. 8). Check the Source Partition and Destination file entries carefully before clicking Yes. This is the last chance to back out. If you backup to a hard disc you can leave it running and have a break. The time it takes depends on: partition size, percentage filled, HD speed and IDE/SCSI/RAID I/O speeds.

If you backup to CDs or DVDs you probably will need to change discs, depending on the size of the image to be spanned.

Ghost 8: Confirmation dialogue.

Fig. 8. Ghost 8: Confirmation dialogue.

 

It is normal for Ghost to split and span the images on the hard disc to 2GB (2,097,142 KB in Windows Explorer, because of file size limit under FAT). Ghost will automatically name the files, starting with *GHO for the first image, followed by *001.GHS and so on.

It would be simpler and more tidy to make a dedicated folder or subfolder for each set of back up ghost files so that files from different sets of backups won't conflict or confuse with each other. If you use the same ghost file name for another backup, the newer files may well overwrite the older ones. You should have at least two sets of backups made at different times so you can name one folder Ghost 1 and the other Ghost 2, for instance and use them alternatively.

Once the cloning operation has finished, you can:

  1. go back to the main menu and do another backup;
     
  2. do an image file check in Local > Check > Image File (not available for Peer to peer backups over the network) or
     
  3. exit Ghost and reboot the computer (don't forget to remove the bootable media first).

 

5.2. Restore

The procedure is the reverse of the backup and the steps are rather similar. In the main menu, choose: Local > Partition > From Image (fig. 9). Follow the wizard for the source drive, source image, destination drive and partition and compression settings. Make sure you check the source file and destination partition very carefully as it will be overwritten. If it is a bootable partition (usually the first primary partition in C) there will be an extra prompt for you to confirm.

Main menu, restore partition

Fig. 9. Ghost 8 in DOS, Main menu, restore partition.

 

6. Running Symantec and Norton Ghost in DOS to clone a hard disc to a new hard disc

You can also set up this using Norton Ghost in Windows by going to the Ghost Advanced window and choose clone and follow the wizard. Cloning using Ghost boot discs in DOS is only necessary for the active Windows partition. For a non-Windows boot or system partition (for example, a data partition), you can just copy the whole partition across in Windows. But if you are migrating to a new HD, it would be convenient to do everything in one go in DOS.

Although Ghost can clone your old HD to a new unformatted HD it would be useful to have Partition Magic boot floppy on hand as well if you need to resize partitions after cloning. Ghost can also resize partitions while cloning but if you wish to change the order of the partitions when migrating onto the new HD, you should use PM as it will correct the MBR and partition table.

In DOS, the principle is similar to backing up a single partition, but in this case choose: Local > Disk > To Disk, or in smaller steps, one at a time sequentially for more than one partition: Partition > To Partition. Your new hard disc should be the same size or greater than the old and there is an option to keep the old partition size, or automatically resize to fill the whole new HD or you can custom set each of the new partition size for a multiple partitioned HD clone.

I have done this successfully when migrating from two 40 GB HDs to two 120 GB HDs, meanwhile resizing and moving the order of the partitions and adding new ones later in Windows Explorer (this needed much careful planning). I will not cover all the steps in detail because everyone's setup is different. However, the following tips may help you.

Basically you need to connect the new HD as slave, keeping the old as master. Boot into Ghost in DOS and do it from there, one partition at a time or the whole HD in one go. To migrate two HDs to two new HDs, repeat the cloning for the second HD.

Always check the BIOS IDE settings, cables and HD jumpers and plan it carefully beforehand. You can use the HD manufacturer's dedicated disc cloning tool if available (e.g. from Maxtor and Seagate) but I've not needed them at all when using Ghost.

If you use a 160GB or larger capacity HD it requires BIOS support and Windows XP SP1 (integrated installation) or above (or Windows 2000 SP3 at least, to enable 48-bit LBA support), or the HD manufacturer's large HD support overlay tool. Read the Microsoft KB 303013 very carefully.

There are three very important points to watch out if you have multiple partitions on different HDs to clone and wish to re-juggle the order.

1. Before you clone the Windows partitions, check the page file settings carefully. If it is on another partition or HD, reset it back on the same Windows partition first. Otherwise you may not be able to boot and it hangs at the logon screen afterwards.

2. The boot partition (where Windows resides) drive letter can change when you move partitions around so be warned and this can lead to unexpected problems. This is particularly important for Windows installations other than in C. If you cannot boot you may need to edit the registry from another Windows installation to change the drive letters (which is for advanced users and is risky and does not guaranteed to solve the problem).

3. Do not move the first primary partition (with its boot sector and less critically, the boot files) to another partition; otherwise the whole will be unbootable. The first primary partition is usually C and Windows likes the first active primary partition to have drive letter C so leave it there at all costs.

 

 

7. Running Symantec and Norton Ghost in DOS to back up and restore peer to peer networked computer drives

7.1 Making a Ghost boot floppy for Peer-to-Peer network support

The Ghost help file has detailed instructions. You can also use other network back up methods (direct LTP cable and USB) but these will not be elaborated further here; consult the manual.

Make a Ghost Peer-to Peer Network boot floppy in the Ghost Boot Wizard (fig. 10). The steps are similar for Symantec and Norton Ghost.

Ghost Boot Wizard: Peer-to-Peer Network Boot Disk

Fig. 10. Ghost Boot Wizard: Peer-to-Peer Network Boot Disk

 

In the Network Interface Card window, add or highlight the DOS NDIS2 or Packet drivers for the NIC adaptor for each computer (if you use TCP/IP method) when making the ghost boot disc for that computer (fig. 11). You have to make one set of boot disc(s) for each computer with different NIC.

Find out the type of NIC adaptor in Device Manager. If the driver is not on the list, search the internet to download and add to the list (click the Add button and follow the prompt to the path on the hard disc). Highlight the correct item and click Next to continue.

Test the drivers by booting with the floppy: if the drivers were installed correctly Ghost in DOS will detect the LAN adapter; if not "netbinding" error messages will appear on screen.

Add NIC NDIS2 or Packet driver

Fig. 11. Ghost Boot Wizard: adding NIC driver

 

7.2. To backup and restore two computers via TCP/IP in Peer-to-Peer mode

7.2.1. Backup

The method is similar using Symantec Ghost and Norton Ghost both in DOS.

  1. Connect the two computers with wired LAN cables and a router which uses DHCP.
     
  2. Insert the Ghost boot disc (floppy or CD) with the correct LAN DOS drivers into its respective computer. The computer whose partition is to be backed up (the source) is designated the "master" and the other (the destination) the "slave" by Ghost.
     
  3. Boot the "slave" computer.  The Peer to peer option will be available in the menu.
     
  4. Select TCP/IP > Slave. A message will show you the computer's IP (e.g. 192.168.0.2) to be used in the "master" computer.
     
    Slave Connect...
    Attempting to connect via TCP/IP
    Use IP Address 192.168.0.x in master
    to connect to the slave machine.

                    [Cancel]

     

  5. Boot the "master" computer using Ghost boot disc. If you use a CD ignore this message:

     
    Invalid device request writing drive A
    Abort, Retry, Fail?


    and just type a (for abort) and press ENTER.
     

  6. Select Peer to peer > TCP/IP > Master. Press ENTER. A message will show you the Local "master" computer's IP address  (e.g. 192.168.0.3) and a box immediately below to enter the IP of the "slave" computer (e.g. 192.168.0.2). Substitute your own IPs with the correct values as revealed by your computers. The IP addresses may vary depending on your router's DHCP assignment.
     
    Slave TCP/IP address to Join to
    Note: Before attempting the operation make sure that the Ghost TCP/IP Save Client is running!
    Local IP address: 192.168.0.3
    192.168.0.2
    [OK]             [Cancel]

     
  7. Click OK on the "master" computer to start connecting to the "slave" computer.

    If the LAN is not connected properly, you'll see this error message:
     

    Unable to start TCP/IP
    Can't find DHCP server
    Possible network setup problem
    In that case correct the LAN connection first until connection can be established.
     
  8. Shortly after a message will appear on the "slave" computer's screen:
     

    Program connected in TCP/IP slave mode
     


    and the usual Ghost menu in the "master" computer's screen.
     

  9. You are now ready to proceed on the "master" computer and you will find the "slave" computer's drives and partitions on the "master" computer's list in the Look in drop-down list (fig.  above).
     
  10. The rest is similar to backing up on the local computer. You won't need to do anything on the "slave" computer. Depending on the LAN connection speed it may take longer than backing up on a local computer.
     
  11. To do an image integrity check after cloning, go to the "slave" computer and do it under Local > Check > Image File.

 

7.2.2. Restore

When you restore the ghost image later, keep the same "master" and "slave" relationship as before, i.e. restore the image from the "slave" to the "master" computer. The steps are similar to those already described for connecting the computers and restore a ghost image to a local computer, except that the source image is to be found on the "slave" computer and the destination drive on the "master".

 

8. Norton Ghost 2003 and Symantec Ghost 8 (ghost.exe): DOS Options

In the Options menu in DOS there are some advanced settings.  Normally the default settings are adequate. Have a look round in each tab to see what is there.

Under the Span/CRC tab, there is a Spanning option for spanning the images files across multiple volumes (the old "-span" switch).

Under Misc tab, there is an option Reboot to Reboot automatically on completion of cloning a drive or partition (-rb) or Exit to DOS. Under the Image/Tape tab are found options for Image Disk (which includes the boot sector, any boot-time utilities, extended partition tables and unpartitioned space).

Under the Security tab, you can Encrypt all created images with a password (the old "-pwd" switch) and configure settings to lock the image based on the BIOS parameters (the default is None).

 

 

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