Boy scouts Vs homosexuals
I received an email requesting that I support the boy scouts in their attempts to keep the homosexual leaders out of the boy scouts. I respond to the person that I could not support the boy scouts on this one. I feel that to do so would open a door to keep out other groups too either by race, religion, or even hair color. I think the boy scouts are bigger than that, or I thought they were. Following is his response:
The Boy Scouts DO NOT exclude blacks, Jewish, redheaded boys, or ANY OTHER LEGAL, MORAL groups. The only "group" excluded by the Boy Scouts, and this is only from being "Scout Leaders" is HOMOSEXUALS!!! Would you want a person who wants to recruit your son, or daughter, into the lifestyle, being in charge of a group which where morals are taught? Your logic fails to meet the test, Steve. And by the way, the Supreme Court backed them up on this one.
Don

so let me take a look at this answer. The boy Scouts DO NOT exclude blacks, Jewish redheaded boys, or ANY OTHER LEGAL, MORAL groups. This is partially true. Can atheist join boy scouts? Last I hear it was frowned on because of the God part. Can women or girls join boy scouts? Yes, women can be den leaders, but they prefer men. However, the problems of the past are, that the men were not checked out and some molested the kids. These men were not homosexuals. They were sexual degenerates.
In the 44 years I have been alive I have meet several known homosexuals. I am sure I have met a lot more who are staying in the closets. I have never had one attempt to recruit me into their lifestyle. I have had people who are "legal people" and who would have no problem being den leaders tempt me with drugs and booze. Will they make better den leaders? " Here son, smoke a little pot it will not hurt you." makes me worry more than a homosexual. Morals are not taught in boy scouts. I know, I was a den leader and a scout master. Morals are taught at home. Boy scouts "should" enhance the good morals taught at home. What are these good morals? Honesty, bravery, manners, and a whole lot of other morals To say that homosexuals do not have these is the same as when in the 1900's throughout the 1980's they stopped blacks from being with whites. It is ridiculous. We are not there to teach them our bedroom antics. Should a redneck teach them about the pleasures of sheep, or that hitting a woman keeps them in line? They can be scout leaders. There are large numbers of people out there that I would not want to have as a scout leader. However, they get to be one because they are not homosexuals. To stop them from being one is based on bigotry and stereotyping. If my logic fails to meet the test now it also failed to meet the test when Hitler murdered millions of Jews, when the Mormons were forced to move out west and when blacks were integrated into white schools.
As far as the Supreme courts decision. It was wrong. Who remembers the Dred Scott Decision? No? Well it was a decision that the Supreme Court made that says in short blacks are no more than cows, and can be treated the same. This included to be beaten, maimed, chained and sold. The Bible was even quoted in the trial for the continued enslavement of blacks. The Supreme courts are saying that as an individual group they can pick who they want to lead their boys. However, look around you. Cities and States are withdrawing their funding; businesses are now with holding their checks. Why? Because they, as I, do not want to be a part of a organization that might get enough power to say now we do not want leaders that are of German decent to lead the boys, or what ever group they go after next.
Here are my suggestions to the parents if they are worried:
1. BSA is NOT Baby Sitters of America. It is Boy Scouts of America. Go to the meeting with your kids. Then if any funny stuff goes on you can stop it there. And if a scout leader is passing around dope turn on the phone and call 911. If you think a homosexual den leader is trying to get you child to be a homosexual, you are there to stop it. (However, remember this you are BORN a homosexual not made a homosexual, and if your child is leaning that way get counseling for both yourself and your child because he will stay that way and YOU need to learn to deal with it.)
2. Check out the den leader yourself. Do you grab a person off the street and hand them your child and say go to the woods with my kid for 2 weeks and have fun? No, so check them out. For a few dollars you can get everything about a person on the web.
3. Force the BSA to check out the leaders. They do not. Anyone can just go and get a piece of paper fill it out and be a den leader.
So that is my answer to that. I will be happy to post all replies.
Killeremtb