38: : ((didja check out my new exit link down there?))
128: : ZEE! thanks for posting my page of links! nice to know my webcrawling's so damned appreciated.
128 is, of course, our own good buddy Shade.
er... 10-4 good buddy. or something.
Shadow: ((lol, sounds like someone is pissed))
Naw.... Ya think? Here's what they're talking about. Apparently, 38 (Zee) saw the lurkpages' links page (put together by Shade, 128). She liked the page so much, that she copied the last half of the links page almost exactly (changed the bullets graphic and removed a couple of pics), including the description for each link, and threw them into her page. They're even in the same order, for crying out loud!
She took the whole thing. I've since added more links several times, and pruned some dead links, though.
38: : *snickers*
128: : some of you might enjoy seeing the ORIGINAL of that links page....http://www.oocities.org/lurkpages/links.html And except for the pictures/bullets, they are EXACTLY the same!!!
see? i added extra exclmation points for emphasis!
Dr.Strangelove: ((roflmao))
Since you're already on the floor, why don't you go ahead and stay there.
Shadow: ((I love it Zee...keep up the good work LOL))
Yeah, takes forever to hit ctrl+c and ctrl+v. Poor Zee, you must be pooped.
she failed to copy-paste the part where she claimed how long it took her to put the links page together. it took me about 45 minutes, and that included sifting throught the existing links, picking the ones i wanted, and writing text for them. she claimed hours or months or something. damn.
SilentAngel: *has the bottle fly to her hands* last night you drank till you passed out then you didn't know what happened
Oh, Lordy. Somebody's actually trying to RP.
128: : can i just go on record as saying: ZEE SUCKS. jesus fucking christ. if you're going to steal my links page, at least change the text copy, huh?
honestly. i don't even REMEMBER all the links i have up. i just get pissed when someone swipes my stuff and passes it off as their own. you like my links? take 'em. just change the text.
Yes. *makes a note in the record*
AMIEL: *enters quietly* hi all hi shadow
apparently shadow doesn't count as "all".
38: : hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Yeah, I always thought people stealing my shit was funny as hell.
38: : betcha this is one lurk that won't show up on the lurk pages
Wanna bet, biotch?
Shadow: ((Hi Amiel, we're on the beach))
128: : zee, you pathetic fuck, this isn't a lurk. someone who roleplays, as opposed to lurking, in here told me about your unimaginative theft.
true thing: i spend very little time in vampyre chat. i don't care for it much. why? many reasons spanning back through time and space. the only reason i was here at all was because zee was gloating. if she'd just put the links as the exit link, i never would have known. ah well.
It's a lurk now.
38: : *bowing while making a hasty exit*
Good. And don't come back. You know, plagarism is bad enough when it's a short story that only a couple of your friends are going to see, but a web page? Here's a nickel, go by some fucking creativity. That nickel's worth should increase your creativity 10-fold. Maybe you can actually come up with a name that's longer than one letter.
Shadow: ((yea some newbies brought a beach outside the tavern about 2 months ago lol))
Here's another reason I don't want to RP here. A new guy shows up and deposits a beach on the doorstep. This doesn't bother anybody?
128: : god damn. if you wanted the links, fine. but you didn't even change the TEXT. what the hell? how much effort would that have TAKEN?
A whole 3-4 minutes. Come on now, we can't expect people to do their OWN work, can we? This is America.
fuck you, mus. i'm an american and i work HARD.
Shadow: ((think she was making a point 128))
What, that she's a thieving bitch? Oops, did I say that out loud?
128: : what point would that be? that she isn't imaginative enough to change the text that i wrote?
Something like that.
Shadow: ((maybe that you don't appreciate this being done, just like not everyone appreciates what you do))
Huh? I don't follow. She should APPRECIATE her work being stolen?
let me tell you how this works. someone lurks in a chatroom. they send me a wad of text. i then spend at least an hour formatting it, not to mention the comments i make. this is a lot of work. this is also very different then going to someone's page, copy-pasting their information, and putting the entirety on my page and claiming it as my own.
Dr.Strangelove: *resurfaces about 50 yrds from the shore and looks to Shadow smiling as he watches*
128: : what i do involves effort on my part. not just copying someone's sourcecode.
*nods*
128: : further, the lurks are sent to me. i do not lurk. they are sent to me by people who role play in here.
*nods*
Shadow: ((rationalization and excuses abound))
I think you're being confused by the truth. No surprised, you're probably not used to it.
128: : ah, well. what should i expect? she hasn't updated her page in months... why bother making any actual EFFORT when she could just STEAL something that i did?
Hey, I'm sure she inserted an extra space somewhere on the page. That's original work! That space makes a big difference! Zee's RL name wouldn't happen to be Fabrice, would it? (That being half of Milli Vanilli)
the fact that you know that frightens me.
128: : i ALSO do not try and pass other people's work off as my own, which she has done.
AMIEL: *pulls just her cloak around her loving the feeling of silk on bare skin*
Shadow: ((what's wrong? We think it's funny, a laugh at your expense))
That's because you don't have any work worth ripping off. Must be hard to relate, when you can't create anything worth stealing.
AMIEL: ((128 drop of will ya we are trying to have fun))
AMIEL: *winks at till* coming for a swim?
128: : i wonder how her isp feels about plagarism.
That depends.... They might boot her and her page, or they might look at pressing some kind of minor charges. Pretty much depends upon whether the ISP is owned by web designers or businessmen.
Shadow: ((she owns the ISP LOL))
Uh.... doubtful.
apparently, zee "owns" tripod.
38: : amazing how quickly one can add a copyright :)
So Zee just supposedly added a copyright to the page claiming this was her own work. Ah, the skills learned through a long career as a plagarist. Actually, if she knew what she was doing, she would have added the copyright a long time ago. I just stared at the source, and don't see one. So apparently she's lying about that, too.
128: : er, since it's a TRIPOD site, i highly doubt that.
Shadow: LMAO Zee
Are you RPing, or OOC? Why don't you make up your mind, laugh your ass off, pick your ass back UP, and laugh it the hell on outta here!
38: : keeps emailing those updates now, ya' hear?
Shadow: guess 128 is plagerizing now eh?
Shadow: sure thing Zee lmao
You heard me. Ass. Out.
What confuses me about this little exchange, is that either Zee is on the mailing list, and told me to keep mailing the updates (like i'd stop or something. sheesh.) and shadow replied randomly... or else SHADOW is on the mailing list, receives the updates, then forwards them to ZEE. wouildn't it save time, if the latter is the case, for her to just sign up? i don't get this. i really don't.
128: : since i wrote it, and it's on a webpage, it's copywritten.
128: : shadow, do you even know what plagarizing IS?
According to Shadow, plagarism is "the legal, acceptable practice of acquiring intellectual and creative material, slapping your name on it, and claiming to have created it." Naw, probably thinks it's "Plague-arism", the practice of plagueing people with stupidity. At which both Shadow and Zee seem adept.
Shadow: it;s not how you play the game, it's how the game plays you
i think he got that off a tee-shirt.
Oh boy, now he's gonna be, like, all existential and stuff. Says Shadow: "It's not how stupid I am, but how smart I'm not".
Shadow: Yes i do, I personally saw this on Zee's page first *weg*
That's because you've never bothered to look at the lurkpages links, jelly-for-brains.
128: : well, shadow, since i took the actual LINKS themselves from another site, some of the links haven't even been UP for months.
128: : some of those web sites are NEW. and i REALLY don't think zee uses phrases like ''by cracky''.
I beg to differ. From the brainpower flowing through this room, phrases like "by cracky", "howwwwdy!", and "put the gunrack on the back of my truck" are probably all over the place.
are you making fun of the way i talk, by cracky?
anyway. if those links are zee's links, then apparently she's pretty damn kinky. *snorts*
38: : wow!! you mean, you ((gasp)) PLAGARIZED those links. damn. will wonders never cease?
AMIEL: ((hows your bum 128?))
Part of the reason AMIEL's post doesn't make any sense, is becuase zee selectively edited what she copy-pasted. and i'm sure she missed stuff while scampering back to put her "copy write notice" at the bottom of the links page.
Better than yours, once I've put my foot in your ass. Come 'ere.
Shadow: Gee, she must've updated :)
I thought I told you to get outta here, if you're not going to say anything worth hearing.
128: : no, zee. sit down for this. i KNOW it's a difficult concept here.
*sits and listens attentively*
128: : i went through a list of over five thousand links and selected a handful that i liked. i THEN wrote text descriptions for each link.
*Zee sits and thinks* Umm.... *holds up ten fingers* Is five thousand more than this?
128: : THAT makes it my work. copying someone's source code without changing ANYTHING is copy write infringement and plagarism.
But, but, it's a different background! And bullets! It's totally different!
SilentAngel: *just nods at what he says still looking down at her lap*
Shadow: that's copyright
Good boy! *gives Shadow a doggy biscuit* Now let's see if you can learn "sorry" and "I won't do it again"....
38: : hehehe..yeah right. So anyway...enough toying with the mindless. I really gotta run...luvya Shad...
toying with the mindless? is that your term for masturbation?
Dr.Strangelove: ((128.. go blow it out your ass.. no one here is interested in listenting to you whine))
Shadow: ((laughs at 128, whine whine whine, but the web page is still up LOL))
Funny. Now where'd I put that number for the FCC office....
Dr.Strangelove: *kisses him passionatly*
Told you they were here to get it on.
AMIEL: ((I already blew out his ass with the grenade member))
Uh.... was that supposed to be an insult, or a comeback, or SOMETHING?
LordTillSchwarzesherz: What you did was right, I should not drink so much
took him awhile to post, huh?
Dr.Strangelove: ((oh yeah..lol.. opps ok.. blow it our your mothers ass then))
just as an aside... the last time someone insulted my mother was in sixth grade. the insulter needed 5 stitches.
My mother isn't available for comment. But yours is coming by tonight, again, should I tell her when I see her?
Shadow: You're all wet babe *puts his cloak around her*
thank GOD! now he can finally get back to putting the moves on the chat whore, dr. strangelove.
For the last time! ASS! OUT!!!
128: : yea. it's still up, and i'm still here. funny, ain't it.
Something like that. Shitheads.
actually, i didn't stay around much longer, as there's only so much inept cyber-sex i can take.