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Pepe Stories

Mario P. Navetta
BklynMario@aol.com


Foreword

I was fortunate enough to know Robert Notaro during his princely apprenticeship as a
neighborhood icon in Brooklyn.  His charisma was nurtured by a temporal and social
environment that symbiotically thrived on his talent and incredible zest for living large in a
relatively modest sociosphere. 

Robert "Corbett/Pepe" Notaro was, at once, our leader, teacher, big brother, witch doctor,
psychiatrist, and bon vivant. He was also our chief inquisitor and hit-man-- which was often his
way of transmitting to us a greater awareness of  our far too frequent violations of our
Italian-American culture, and our proper place in that hierarchy. When, and only when, he
allowed it, he was our friend.  We never knew if we were going to be hit or hugged when he
summoned us with a "Hey, kid! Get over here.  I wanna talk to you."  We wanted hugs, but we
accepted the hits with increasingly sage stoicism.

In addition to my personal accounts, I've included several stories from others that still only
minimally personify the magnitude of Pepe's life.  You had only to meet Pepe once to never
forget him. The brevity of his life was in doubly inverse proportion to his impact on all of us. 
Thus the need for "Pepe Stories."

*An afterthought:  Recently, Carol Hooton asked me to verify the spelling of Pepe's surname, as
it has been given as both "No" and "Na."  In asking, she added that, "...after all, you are the
expert when it comes to Pepe."  I asked Carol to please retract that designation, as I feared
hearing a voice call out,  "Hey, kid! Get over here! I wanna talk to you."

Mario P. Navetta
August 27, 2000


"Pepe Stories".............Part 1

*Initially prompted by a posting on RAMD, by an admittedly young, corps member asking,
"Who was Pepe?"

Just a thought...I am certain that many, if not most, younger corps members are unfamiliar with
the person beyond the persona of the man that we, "more experienced" aficionados, refer to so
often. The simple fact is that you had to had to be in Bob's presence only one time in order to
believe even the most bizarre tales about him. If what was said wasn't true, but Pepe thought it
was worthwhile, it would become part of his living legend- especially if he could get a laugh out
of it. Descriptives fail when discussing him. Of course he was multi-talented, witty, and had a
humanity proportionate to his physical being. But there was more - there always was more.
Maybe it was something akin to Donnie Solinger's observation of the Skyliner's and their music,
that Ron Allard tails his messages with, "Because there was always something about the
Skyliners...and that music..." It seems to me that this could be easily juxtaposed to one statement
summation of who Robert "Pepe" Notaro was. So my suggestion: I think it would be worthwhile
that we share some of our memories, both for the enlightenment and- I am certain-enjoyment of
those who never knew Pepe. At the same time, I think it this would give those of us who were
fortunate enough to visit "Pepe World," a chance to take a second trip to a dimension of drum
corps history and life that will not happen again.


Pepe, was not always "Pepe." In our Brooklyn neighborhood of Williamsburg, he was nicknamed
"Corbett," a moniker bestowed on him by him by his father early in life because the senior
Notaro believed his son to have the physical stature of the legendary heavyweight boxing
champion, "Gentleman Jim" Corbett. And it was because of my misinformation as to the origin
of his nickname that I caught my first "official" beating - beatings had to be deemed official by
Corbett or they didn't count and thus had to be administered again.  This may require some
explanation.

At the time I first became aware of Corbett's lofty hierarchical position in our Northside
community, he was well on his way to icon-dom. Our local church drum and bugle corps, Our
Lady of Mt. Carmel, (Joe Gennaro, Carmen Cluna, other super talented, but
non-continuing-in-drum corps people), had realized national fame (which then meant - from here
on the East Coast - all the way to Chicago) when they placed fifth in the American Legion
Championships in the early fifties. The acknowledged madcap - yet magisterial - leader of that
city-street-urchins-turned-marching-musicians gang was Corbett. His in-corps rank was
well-matched by his street status as a "tough-technician" with a youthful, godfather-like
benevolence. And, Corbett was a bit eccentric and fun loving - to the point that we were allowed
to say, "He's crazy!" and say it in the most respectful way. These were virtues much admired in
our nearly total Italian/American neighborhood, because it meant that the kids, (of which I was
then one),would be taught our hybrid American values, while maintaining the life-sustaining
Italian insularity of our parents and grandparents which separated "us" from "them". In Corbett,
we had a master teacher. 


Pepe Stories...To Join Drum Corps

"Whadda ya doin' in that faggot sailor suit?" I got justifiably nervous whenever Corbett talked to
me that way.  By now, I was (in my best estimation) in the third grade of the "Robert 'Corbett'
Notaro School of  How You're Supposed to Behave If You're Italian and Live in Brooklyn and
Want to Grow Up the Right Way"  Emboldened by this, I retorted a bit too smartassy, 

"Whadda ya mean 'faggot'? I'm in the Sea Cadets, and I just got a promotion." Just in case he
didn't believe me, I pointed to the three petty officer stripes that confirmed my newly elevated
power. As soon as I spoke I knew I was going to get hit. The insolent pointing would earn me an
additional smack and a mini-lecture on my lack of respect towards the "big guys" of the
neighborhood. Didn't I want to grow up to be one of those guys someday ? Yes.  And didn't I
want to help carry the several thousand pound Giglio during the feast of Our Lady of Mt.Carmel
that was held each July in our parish, and eat dinner at Bamonte's, and drink so much wine that I
didn't realize that my shoulder was bleeding when we, the big guys, drunkenly muscled the
Giglio upwards for its dance? Yes, yes, yes, ! Then what the hell was I doing wearing that faggot
sailor suit? 

"I like the Sea Cadets. We go to parades and drill team competitions and..."
"Join the drum corps."
"Nah, I don't want to play a bugle"
"It's not a bugle, it's a valve horn."
"I don't want to play a valve horn."  Smack.
"What church do you go to?"
"You know I go to Mt.Carmel."

"What church did your grandmother go to?" This was it! The fully loaded question that was later
to become the basis of Pep-ian logic. These quizzical queries were cunningly contrived to guide
the inquisitee to the one and only answer that Chief Inquisitor Notaro wanted to hear. In this
case, the answer was self-evident: every Italian woman who ever lived in our Northside
neighborhood went to Mt.Carmel. There was no second choice, no alternatives. He had me.

"Mt. Carmel"
"And wasn't your uncle in the Navy?"
"Yeah."
"And how do you think your grandmother felt when she saw your uncle going to fight in a war
and  wearing a sailor suit?" 
"I dunno. She probably cried ."
"You bet she cried! And every time she saw somebody wearing a sailor suit, she thought of your
uncle and cried some more."
"I guess so."
"And now you're wearing a sailor suit! Don't you think she's going to cry when she sees you?"
"I dunno. She's been dead for about ten years."
"What difference does that make? Don't you think she still sees you?"

I  had no answer for him. To answer negatively would be a disavowal of all the fundamental
Italian Christianity the good sisters had smacked and scared  into me for so many years. He knew
this. And, in spite of the fact that I was now just a few years away from high school, and not (at
least in my mind) a "kid" anymore, he was still intimidating.  I wanted him to like me, and
maybe even have him call me by my first name someday.

"Yeah, I guess so."

I stayed in the Sea Cadets for another year or so. It wasn't easy.  Each time I put on my "sailor
suit" I felt I was being watched. Despite the fact that I got another promotion to Chief Petty
Officer, and a requisite change of uniform, I was still uncomfortable.  Occasionally, when I
passed Corbett's house, he would see me and make a comment about my "new sailor suit" The
next year I quit the Sea Cadets.


Pepe Stories...the First Contest

It was my first, and like all "firsts" in our lives we are given to embellishments and
enhancements that are initially made as " situational adjustments" for our (hopefully!) eager
audience. Combining this with reunional bar stool encounters,  gives our tale  liquid legitimacy. 
And, when the final elements of increasing time and decreasing recollection are factored in, we
have conceived fable. 

Rather than masochistically victimizing myself with a flawed fable-which I may have already
done- I looked back at something I posted in 1997( I almost typed1957!). With just the very
slightest of  editing ( for the really dumb mistakes) I haven't changed it.....

The first show I ever watched was in 1956; a pre-season show in the Newark, NJ armory.  Our
parish corps-- Our Lady of Mt. Carmel, in Brooklyn, Pepe's original corps-- was trying to
reorganize, and figured that taking the kids to see a show would be a good way to motivate us.

Our busload of Brooklyn street urchins and urchinettes, got there a bit late and we were unable
to get any decent seats. Someone who knew someone who knew someone else, somehow
managed to allow us to sit on the floor the front sidelines. And that was the beginning. Needless
to say, I was awestruck, dumbfounded, overwhelmed, bewitched, and beautifully bothered and
bewildered.  I fell hopelessly in love with drum corps---or maybe it was just the way the
Bon-Boons majorette looked -- forever after.

The lineup that night included the Holy Name Cadets,  St. Vincent Cadets, Wynn Center Police
Cadets (an all African-American corps), St. Joseph's Hilltoppers, Bon-Bons, (whose majorette
lost a tassel which I purloined from the armory floor and kept for the next forty years!) and
Blessed Sacrament. The  Seniors who put on an exhibition, were the George Washington Carver
Gay Blades (yet another all African-American corps), and the Hawthorne Caballeros, who
played a song called "Cherry Pink, and Apple Blossom White," (which was at the top of the Pop
charts back then) Then, as now, the crowd loved them.

And there was "Corbett" (Pepe's father- given nickname)being greeted by literally everyone in
the place: "Hey, Bob!"---he had yet to assume the Pepe persona. Of course I had  come to terms
with his neighborhood popularity, but this was something different.  Already he was holding
court, and his subjects were gathered around him for a word of  princely wisdom.  Although I
didn't know it then, I was a witness to an early part of drum corps history that would soon
become legend.

I half-slept on the bus going back to Brooklyn, still hearing the sounds of drums and bugles in
the  Holland Tunnel merging in rushes and whispers in my brain. Corbett (henceforth Pepe) was
somewhere in the back of the bus laughing and ministering to his vassals. I don't recall that he
ever stopped talking.

Back at the church hall, Pepe interrogated me," Well, whaddaya think, kid? Did ya' like it?"...I
don't remember exactly what I said. I do recall that I must have said too much, because Pepe
smacked me in the head, in a friendly way -- we did that sort of thing in Brooklyn -- and told me
to go home, it was getting late. And I had better practice tomorrow, or else! I knew where this
was going, so I dutifully nodded, said goodnight, and walked home in the early spring Brooklyn
night of a time that will never exist again except in dreams that I don't want to wake from.

I had a hard time falling asleep that night...I kept hearing music and..... 


A Pepe Memorial Day Story

Although at 17, I was already Tommy Martin's only "failure," I somehow learned to play well
enough to earn a place in Loretto's solo soprano line alongside such greats as Joe (Da Fig)
DaFiglia.  Make no mistake about it! I wasn't  so good that I could actually play a solo, but I
managed  passably when I was part of the ensemble. For all my limited talent, I was grateful for
what I had  achieved. More than all else, I had, at least  somewhat, measured up to Pepe's
expectations of me.  

As I  swaggered - we were required to swagger  in Brooklyn - my way down our local  streets 
one late spring evening on my way to the subway, I was "summoned" to the corner candy
store/hangout, by none other than Robert "Corbett/Pepe" Notaro.

"Hey, kid! Get over here."
"I can't.  I gotta go to practice."
"Get your ass over here or it'll be your last practice."
"But I'll miss the train..."
"@*(*$# the train!"
"Okay"
"Whaddaya doin' tomorrow?"
"We got a parade."
"What time?"
"2 o'clock."
"Good. Meet me at the square at ten. Bring your horn."
"Why?"
"Because I told you to."
"But why?"
"Because you're goin' to play Taps for the vets."
"But I don't want to play Taps."
"I don't give a shit what you want to do.  You're  goin' to play Taps, and you'll get ten dollars
for it." (Ten dollars "Back Then" bought a month of Saturday -and some Sunday- movie dates,
replete with post pic pizza and Pepsi)
"Every time I play it, I screw up. I can't do it."
"Listen to me. I'll start it off. You're goin' to be the echo. You stand under the expressway, and
'echo' what I play.  Do you understand?"
"Yeah, but I don't want to do it."
"Mario, how old are you?'
"Seventeen. "
"Do you want to be eighteen?"
"Yeah."
"Then you'll play the echo, or the next Taps will be for you. Do you understand?"

Of course I did. Luckily, I got it right. ............Damn! I miss him...........mario


"Pepe Stories... Friends"

"Pepe World," was open to everyone.  There was never an admission charge, except for an
occasional smack in the back of the head, if that night's "performance" took place on a long
busride home on the New York State Thruway.  Aside from that nominal cost, the show was free
and ongoing. Convoluted wisdom and situational comedy were dispensed equally.  While few
topics were publicly sacred, no "play" was ever presented without our common humanity as the
focal point. The inviolable rule was that we had to be able to be to laugh at ourselves before we
had the privilege to laugh at others. If the prince could accept this self-proclaimed dictum, then
so could we.  

Many years ago, a police-drama film about New York City, called "Naked City," had as its
tag-line, "There are eight million stories in the 'Naked City'.  This has been one of them."  I'm not
quite certain that there are that many "Pepe Stories," but there might be! In any case, "There are
______________ stories in 'Pepe World.'  These are some of them."


Getting Married    

The Time: Late 50's The Scene: Annual Tournament of Drums in Rochester, NY (Skyliners
[Pepe], Grey Knights, Brockport-Batavia, Reilly, Appleknockers, Purple Lancers, Crusaders
[Me]) My parents who had heard a lot about Pepe were finally getting to meet him.
Me: Mom and Dad, This is Pepe Notaro from Gabarina.
Dad: Nice to meet you. We've heard a lot about you from Carol.
Pepe: Nice to meet you too Sir especially since I'm going to be your son-in-law.
Mom: What?
Pepe: We've finally decided to get married as soon as I can teach Carol to talk right.
Dad: You didn't tell us anything about this.
Me: --
Pepe: Why didn't you tell your parents, Carol.?
Me: --
Mom: I would've thought you would tell us something as important as this.
Pepe: I don't know if I really want to marry someone who doesn't have any respect for their
parents.
Dad: Carol?
Mom: Carol?
Me: --
Pepe: I'll see you around kid. Let me know if you learn respect and I might reconsider. 

- Carol Hooton


Pepettiquette

Pepe's view on when to arrive for any function: 
1) If you show up early or on-time - nobody cares.
2) If you show up a little late - everyone is irritated with you.
3) If you show up very late - to the point where you're not expected to make it - everyone is glad
to see you again. 

We foolishly interrupted one of Pepe's rambling stories once and asked,
"Pepe, aren't we going to be late for rehearsal?" To which he aptly replied, "Rehearsal don't start
till Pepe gets there." Our rookie lives were well protected by the Pep! - Andy Lisko


Driving Lessons

Okay ... so I kinda laid the groundwork for you knowing that Pepe's driving to/from a
rehearsal/show was not one of his favorite chores...

So, we're in the car one night and he puts his seat all the way back and is kind of lying behind the
steering wheel with his head tilted way back. He said, "Ya know. I got this theory that if ya get
real relaxed while yer drivin'... put yer head back like this... and keep yer eyes open just a sliver--
it's almost like sleepin' while yer drivin.' Ain't that sumptin'?"

The next week we noticed that the front-end of his car was a little banged up. We ask what
happened and he sheepishly replied: "Guess I blinked." - Andy Lisko 


Motivational Speeches

Before taking the field in Hamden, 1969, Pepe sez: "Remember - it's the first show of the season
- so the corps with the fewest ticks will win." The corps burst into a roar - nailed a good job -
won the show.  The man was utterly brilliant at motivational speeches. - Andy Lisko 

And how about this gem: 

Pepe says:  "Gentlemen, we have reached a critical time in the season and must make a decision.
The future of the corps depends on it. We must either unite... or... we gotta get together. It's one
or the other... the choice is yours... but you hafta choose one." We all found ourselves saying,
"You know... he's right." 

God, I love this. - Andy Lisko


French Horn 101

I've told this so many times-- most of you have heard it-- but here it is for those who may have
missed it... Late 60's... show in Upstate New York somewhere... I'm in Brigs and Pepe walks up
to me outside the stadium and says "Hey, Peash... can I borrow your horn for the show?"  We
still had French Horns-- not mellophones... Being a smart ass kid I replied... "For you Pepe...
sure, but we just converted our horns to G/F and the fingering is different..." His quick
response... "That's OK kid, I don't use the f--kin' valves anyway..." My horn never sounded so
good. And you know, he just might not have bothered with the valves.... - Tom Peashey 


Funny Farm     

During the 60's, we would always take a weekend off in the summertime to have a corps picnic. 
Once we invited the Skyliners who had often jokingly referred to us as a "bunch of farmers"
because of the small size of our town as compared to New York City. It was maybe '65 or '66. 
We had a ball.  We played games, sang songs, solved the worlds problems, drank beer and
gorged ourselves on clambakes.  The picnic grounds were in a very rural setting with cornfields
plainly visible on two sides.  Late that afternoon while sitting at a table across from Pepe and
Red Harrison I picked up the following exchange between the two men:

Pepe: You know Zero, these guys are really farmers!
Red: (Laughing): Yeah, I know. A bunch of hicks...
Pepe: (Seriously, his voice almost a whisper): No, I'm SERIOUS. They're REALLY fahmahs!
(Gesturing toward the cornfields) I mean look, DEY GROW TINGS! 

There will never be another Pepe.  Goodnight Funnyman! - Donnie Solinger 


Miracle

The year was '63  I believe.  There was a contest somewhere in English speaking Canada and it
so happened that some of the Skyliners and Caballeros were eating at the same diner.  George
DelMonte and Pepe were sitting with each other.  Pepe was sitting there mimicking a deaf-mute
and George was playing the part of Pepe's brother and translator. The waitress came over to the
table and asked what they would like to eat. Pepe began his act, mumbling and pointing at the
menu.  George translated to the waitress that Pepe had asked for "a cup of coffee" ...Pepe gave a
short mumble... George translated... "with cream" ...Pepe mumbled again... George translated
again... "no sugar."  The waitress asked if he wanted anything to eat.  Pepe again mumbled...
George translated... "He said he wants eggs, over easy"... Pepe mumbles again... George
translates... "and don't break the yokes or they're goin' back."  The waitress takes everyone else's
order and retires to the kitchen to put the orders in with the cook.

While the waitress is away, there is a elderly couple in the next booth and they've been watching
this whole thing go on.  They ask George, "Has he always been a deaf-mute?" George starts
giving them a sob story about how when they were kids growing up that his brother (Pepe) had
witnessed the tragic accident that took the lives of both their parents and that since that day he
has never been able to speak.  The elderly couple are really taken in by George's story and begin
to show a lot of sympathy towards Pepe. Then, Pepe mumbles something to George... George
call to the waitress... "Excuse me, could you tell me where the men's room is?" ...the waitress
points... Pepe gets up and starts for the men's room.

As he passes a cigarette machine, he accidentally bangs his knee against it and yells out in
agony, ..."SON OF A BITCH!!!"  With that George jumps up and yells, "IT'S A MIRACLE!!! 
IT'S A MIRACLE!!!  THOSE ARE THE FIRST WORDS HE'S SPOKEN IN 22 YEARS SINCE
THE DEATH OF OUR PARENTS!!!"

The elderly couple don't know whether to shit, piss or go blind.  There are tears in their eyes.
Others in the diner who had overheard all that had gone on were all looking at Pepe who is in
agony.  DelMonte goes running over to Pepe and asks him, "Are you okay?"   What does Pepe
do?   He starts mumbling like a deaf-mute again.  The rest of the Skyliners and Caballeros who
were in the diner are rolling on the floor laughing their collective asses off.

Ya hadda be there... or so I was told. - Michael T. Siglow 


Motivation, Pt. II

What about the "motivational speech" when he told the corps, with a deadly serious face,
"Remember, tonight there are only two types of judges out there. They can either hurt you, or
harm you." - Michael T. Siglow


Final Question

I always remember Pepe saying that when you get to Gods Golden Gates, St. Peter will only ask
you one question: "Did you ever march in the Dream?" - Carol Ann Fallon


"Pepe Stories... Afterword"

Here is the shortest of my "Pepe Stories."  In fact, there is no story at all.  I can't (even here I
hesitate both intellectually and emotionally) end these tales-- so I'll make the decision not to end. 
Were it not for him, I wouldn't be writing this at all.  I really hope that he likes what I've done.  I
think I'd like to hear him say, "Hey, kid! You did good!"

From Carol Hooton:

There are so many funny stories I can't think of which one to tell first. My favorite however
speaks to the humanity of the man. 

I was on a Caribbean cruise run by the World Drum Corps Hall of Fame.  I got up early (5AM)
to jog around the deck and came upon Pepe.  I was totally surprised because he was still going
strong with his riddles when I went to bed at 2AM.  When I questioned him he said, "I promised
myself before I came on this cruise I would see the sun rise over the ocean-- I don't know how
anybody can't believe in God after seeing a sunrise-- say a prayer with me."

So, we stood on the stern of the ship, said a prayer for all our Drum Corps friends who had
passed (mostly Skyliners because Pepe was doing the talking), gave each other a hug and went
our separate ways.  What a guy!

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