From :  mark peeters <markpeeters11@hotmail.com>

Sent :  Thursday, May 10, 2001 6:12 PM

To :  markpeeters07@hotmail.com

Subject :  Fwd: CEASE AND DESIST

 

 

 

 

 

 

>From: George William Herbert <gherbert@retro.com>

>To: markpeeters11@hotmail.com (marc peeters)

>CC: gherbert@gw.retro.com

>Subject: CEASE AND DESIST

>Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 15:30:34 -0700

>

>The messages you have been submitting to my newsgroups are

>OFF TOPIC AND NET ABUSE

>

>You were warned about this in January of this year and

>are continuing to post.

>

>You are hereby

>ORDERED TO CEASE AND DESIST POSTING SUCH MESSAGES

>

>I have already complained to your ISPs and geocities

>requesting that they remove your accounts and websites

>for having violated my previous orders to stop spamming

>the groups I moderate.  I will continue complaining

>until your accounts are deleted unless you agree to

>permanently end these postings.

 

 

 

 

>

>

>-george william herbert

>Moderator, sci.space.tech & sci.space.science

>Moderator, sci.military.moderated

>gherbert@retro.com

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>From: markpeeters11@hotmail.com (marc peeters)

>Newsgroups: sci.space.tech

>Subject: Maximum-speed for an man-made object of 1 kg is less than 10,000mph

>Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 21:48:12 +0000 (UTC)

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>Do you know a scientific publication about this?

>

>Or do you know a scientific publication (f.i. Fysical Review)

>that claims a speed for a man-made object of 1 kg, that is higher than

>10,000mph?

>

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>Subject: spam of my newsgroups

>Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 15:11:53 -0700

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>

>Greetings.  Marc Peeters has been repeatedly ordered

>to stop trying to post to this newsgroup for ongoing

>spam advertisements of his websites and various kook

>activities which are completely off charter.  See appended

>complaint of Jan 12 this year.

>

>Well, he's back.  He's using hotmail again (or claims to be):

>     markpeeters11@hotmail.com (marc peeters)

>...and posting via a s-dreams.net server and mailgate.

>Please investegate and take appropriate action such as

>termination of service to his accounts for continuing

>these off topic, inappropriate postings.

>

>Thank you.

>

>

>- -george william herbert

>Moderator, sci.space.tech & sci.space.science

>Moderator, sci.military.moderated

>gherbert@retro.com

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>From: markpeeters11@hotmail.com (marc peeters)

>Newsgroups: sci.space.tech

>Subject: Maximum-speed for an man-made object of 1 kg is less than 10,000mph

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>Do you know a scientific publication about this?

>

>Or do you know a scientific publication (f.i. Fysical Review)

>that claims a speed for a man-made object of 1 kg, that is higher than

>10,000mph?

>

>

>

>

>

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>(Message space.abuse:36)

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>Date:    Fri, 12 Jan 2001 20:43:31 PST

>To:      abuse@hotmail.com, abuse@my-deja.com, abuse@oocities.com

>cc:      gherbert

>From:    George William Herbert <gherbert>

>Subject: ongoing off topic posting attempts by Mark Peters

>

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>

>Greetings.  I am the moderator for the Usenet newsgroups

>sci.space.tech and sci.space.science , and I have a problem

>with one of your users...

>

>Last Friday, Jan 5, I notified Deja usenet poster Mark Peters

>(XMYDJUIDmarkpeeters13) to cease and desist trying to post his

>off topic kook material to my newsgroups.  Today (early this morning)

>he posted 2 more messages to the groups, defying my explicit order

>of last friday to cease doing so.  This is net abuse and violation

>of my groups' charters.  Please investegate and take appropriate

>actions to see that he does not post this any more and does not

>cause any other spam related problems.  He's using a geocities

>website for his materials and gave a hotmail mailback account

>as well; I believe that Usenet spamming in violation of Moderators

>orders is against both of your AUPs as well, so please take

>appropriate action on those.

>

>Excerpted from the last post:

>E-mail : markpeeters13@hotmail.com

>X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDmarkpeeters13

>   http://www.oocities.org/CapeCanaveral/Lab/1917/proof.html

>

>Thank you.

>

>

>- -george william herbert

>Moderator, sci.space.tech & sci.space.science

>Moderator, sci.military.moderated

>gherbert@retro.com

>

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>From: markpeeters13@my-deja.com

>Newsgroups: sci.space.history,sci.space.tech

>Subject: Re: [Q] Apollo velocity measurements

>Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 04:34:26 GMT

>Organization: Deja.com

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>

> > I don't see the word "verified" in the post at all.

>

>I see it clearly :

>

>"I was wondering how this was verified.  If this is a dumb

>  question, please whack me."

>

>And "yes" the question is "dumb", because "space-travel is fake"

>

>The question about "VERIFICATION" is SCIENTIFIC....

>SCIENCE is based on VERIFICTION...

>SPACE-TRAVEL is based on VIRTUAL REALITY...

>

>2001. A Space Odyssee. Science Fiction...

>

>

>

>For space-travel around the earth, a velocity of 28.000km/hr or

>17,000mph is needed..

>(Nasa admits this.f.i.tel.001-202-554-3024 lpeters@mail.hq.nasa.gov)

>

>

>The maximum speed that was ever demonstrated on ground level was less

>than 600km/hr or 400mph...

>Did you ever see a higher speed than 400mph?

>

>TRUST-NO-ONE, certainly not THRUST-2 in SALT-LAKE-CITY!

>(2 is NOT-ONE)

>You must take it with a LITTLE SALT...

>

>

>So why should believe that 400mph is greater than 17,000mph?

>

>PLEASE DO NOT REACT UNLESS YOU CLAIM THE NUMBERS ARE WRONG...

>

>http://www.oocities.org/CapeCanaveral/Lab/1917/proof.html

>

>

>Sent via Deja.com

>http://www.deja.com/

>

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>Newsgroups: sci.space.tech

>Subject: Re: [Q] Apollo velocity measurements

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>

> > I don't see the word "verified" in the post at all.

>

>I see it clearly :

>

>"I was wondering how this was verified.  If this is a dumb

>  question, please whack me."

>

>And "yes" the question is "dumb", because "space-travel is fake"

>

>The question about "VERIFICATION" is SCIENTIFIC....

>SCIENCE is based on VERIFICTION...

>SPACE-TRAVEL is based on VIRTUAL REALITY...

>

>2001. A Space Odyssee. Science Fiction...

>

>

>

>For space-travel around the earth, a velocity of 28.000km/hr or

>17,000mph is needed..

>(Nasa admits this.f.i.tel.001-202-554-3024 lpeters@mail.hq.nasa.gov)

>

>

>The maximum speed that was ever demonstrated on ground level was less

>than 600km/hr or 400mph...

>Did you ever see a higher speed than 400mph?

>

>TRUST-NO-ONE, certainly not THRUST-2 in SALT-LAKE-CITY!

>(2 is NOT-ONE)

>You must take it with a LITTLE SALT...

>

>

>So why should believe that 400mph is greater than 17,000mph?

>

>PLEASE DO NOT REACT UNLESS YOU CLAIM THE NUMBERS ARE WRONG...

>

>http://www.oocities.org/CapeCanaveral/Lab/1917/proof.html

>

>

>Sent via Deja.com

>http://www.deja.com/

>

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>Newsgroups: sci.space.tech

>Subject: Re: [Q] Apollo velocity measurements

>Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 05:50:47 GMT

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> >>> the apology

>

>

>Is this a metafoor for the apollo-rockets who needed 17,000mph,

>but where the verification of the measurements only demonstrated

>1,000mph?

>

>

>Do you apologise that the Apollo-rockets to the moon were fake?

>

>

>http://www.oocities.org/CapeCanaveral/Lab/1917/proof.html

>

>

>

>Sent via Deja.com

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>Subject: Re: A dumb question about escape velocity

>Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 05:57:26 GMT

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>Space-travel around the earth needs 17,000mph...

>

>The maximum-velocity that was ever demonstreted in a vacuum-tube for a

>man-made object of more than 1 kilogram was LESS....

>

>

>So space-travel is FAKE...

>

>

>http://www.oocities.org/CapeCanaveral/Lab/1917/proof.html

>

>

>In order to HIDE al this they confuse everybody by talking about

>escape-velocity and about "weightless-ness in vacuum" , which is

>BULLSHIT....

>

>

>Sent via Deja.com

>http://www.deja.com/

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>To: markpeeters13@my-deja.com

>cc: abuse@my-deja.com, gherbert

>Subject: inappropriate posts to sci.space.tech

>Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 00:02:09 -0800

>From: George William Herbert <gherbert>

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>

>

>Please cease and desist posting paranoid rants to

>the newsgroups which I moderate.  Any further posts

>will result in my requesting deja deactivate your

>account for net abuse.

>

>

>- - -george william herbert

>Moderator, sci.space.tech & sci.space.science

>Moderator, sci.military.moderated

>gherbert@retro.com

>

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>From: markpeeters13@my-deja.com

>Newsgroups: sci.space.history,sci.space.tech

>Subject: Re: [Q] Apollo velocity measurements

>Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 04:34:26 GMT

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> > I don't see the word "verified" in the post at all.

>

>I see it clearly :

>

>"I was wondering how this was verified.  If this is a dumb

>  question, please whack me."

>

>And "yes" the question is "dumb", because "space-travel is fake"

>

>The question about "VERIFICATION" is SCIENTIFIC....

>SCIENCE is based on VERIFICTION...

>SPACE-TRAVEL is based on VIRTUAL REALITY...

>

>2001. A Space Odyssee. Science Fiction...

>

>

>

>For space-travel around the earth, a velocity of 28.000km/hr or

>17,000mph is needed..

>(Nasa admits this.f.i.tel.001-202-554-3024 lpeters@mail.hq.nasa.gov)

>

>

>The maximum speed that was ever demonstrated on ground level was less

>than 600km/hr or 400mph...

>Did you ever see a higher speed than 400mph?

>

>TRUST-NO-ONE, certainly not THRUST-2 in SALT-LAKE-CITY!

>(2 is NOT-ONE)

>You must take it with a LITTLE SALT...

>

>

>So why should believe that 400mph is greater than 17,000mph?

>

>PLEASE DO NOT REACT UNLESS YOU CLAIM THE NUMBERS ARE WRONG...

>

>http://www.oocities.org/CapeCanaveral/Lab/1917/proof.html

>

>

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>Subject: Re: [Q] Apollo velocity measurements

>Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 04:34:52 GMT

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> > I don't see the word "verified" in the post at all.

>

>I see it clearly :

>

>"I was wondering how this was verified.  If this is a dumb

>  question, please whack me."

>

>And "yes" the question is "dumb", because "space-travel is fake"

>

>The question about "VERIFICATION" is SCIENTIFIC....

>SCIENCE is based on VERIFICTION...

>SPACE-TRAVEL is based on VIRTUAL REALITY...

>

>2001. A Space Odyssee. Science Fiction...

>

>

>

>For space-travel around the earth, a velocity of 28.000km/hr or

>17,000mph is needed..

>(Nasa admits this.f.i.tel.001-202-554-3024 lpeters@mail.hq.nasa.gov)

>

>

>The maximum speed that was ever demonstrated on ground level was less

>than 600km/hr or 400mph...

>Did you ever see a higher speed than 400mph?

>

>TRUST-NO-ONE, certainly not THRUST-2 in SALT-LAKE-CITY!

>(2 is NOT-ONE)

>You must take it with a LITTLE SALT...

>

>

>So why should believe that 400mph is greater than 17,000mph?

>

>PLEASE DO NOT REACT UNLESS YOU CLAIM THE NUMBERS ARE WRONG...

>

>http://www.oocities.org/CapeCanaveral/Lab/1917/proof.html

>

>

>Sent via Deja.com

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> >>> the apology

>

>

>Is this a metafoor for the apollo-rockets who needed 17,000mph,

>but where the verification of the measurements only demonstrated

>1,000mph?

>

>

>Do you apologise that the Apollo-rockets to the moon were fake?

>

>

>http://www.oocities.org/CapeCanaveral/Lab/1917/proof.html

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>Space-travel around the earth needs 17,000mph...

>

>The maximum-velocity that was ever demonstreted in a vacuum-tube for a

>man-made object of more than 1 kilogram was LESS....

>

>

>So space-travel is FAKE...

>

>

>http://www.oocities.org/CapeCanaveral/Lab/1917/proof.html

>

>

>In order to HIDE al this they confuse everybody by talking about

>escape-velocity and about "weightless-ness in vacuum" , which is

>BULLSHIT....

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>WAKE UP, AMERICA!

>IT IS 2001!

>2001. A SPACE ODYSSEE (1968).

>IT WAS FICTION.

>IT WAS A REALISTIC MOVIE,

>BUT IT WAS A VIRTUAL REALITY.

>SO...THe Moon landing (1969) was also fake!

>

>SPACE-TRAVEL IS also FAKE,

>since space-travel around the earth needs 17,000mph

>and since nobody demonstrated more than 3,000mph,

>not even for an bullet of 10 gram

>or a small rocket of 1 kilogram in a VACUUM-TUBE!

>

>   http://www.oocities.org/CapeCanaveral/Lab/1917/proof.html

>

>E-mail : markpeeters13@hotmail.com

>

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>WAKE UP, AMERICA!

>IT IS 2001!

>2001. A SPACE ODYSSEE (1968).

>IT WAS FICTION.

>IT WAS A REALISTIC MOVIE,

>BUT IT WAS A VIRTUAL REALITY.

>SO...THe Moon landing (1969) was also fake!

>

>SPACE-TRAVEL IS also FAKE,

>since space-travel around the earth needs 17,000mph

>and since nobody demonstrated more than 3,000mph,

>not even for an bullet of 10 gram

>or a small rocket of 1 kilogram in a VACUUM-TUBE!

>

>   http://www.oocities.org/CapeCanaveral/Lab/1917/proof.html

>

>E-mail : markpeeters13@hotmail.com

>

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>Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 15:18:58 -0700

>From: George William Herbert <gherbert>

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>

>I sent a complaint slightly earlier, but he's still at it.

>This time he's spamming ads for yet another geocities

>website he runs.  On top of which, the Geocities website

>he was spamming ads for in January is still up and live.

>

>Geocities: please terminate web services to:

>     http://www.oocities.org/markpeeters96/q00.html (current spam)

>and the previous spammed site at:

>     http://www.oocities.org/CapeCanaveral/Lab/1917/

>

>Hotmail and s-dreams, *PLEASE* take effective action to terminate

>this series of spamming.

>

>Thank you.

>

>

>- -george william herbert

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>Moderator, sci.military.moderated

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