From :  mark peeters <markpeeters666@hotmail.com>

Sent :  Wednesday, April 3, 2002 12:44 PM

To :  markpeeters11@hotmail.com

Subject :  Fwd: CEASE AND DESIST

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    From: "mark peeters" <markpeeters07@hotmail.com>

To: markpeeters666@hotmail.com

Subject: Fwd: CEASE AND DESIST

Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 15:12:00 +0000

 

 

 

 

 

 

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From: mark peeters <markpeeters07@hotmail.com>

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Subject: Fwd: CEASE AND DESIST

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tik in  bij : NEWSGROEP : SCI.SPACE.TECH

 

bij Auteur.. MarkPeeters11@hotmail.com....

 

 

 

je zal zien de "betrokken artikels" zijn NIET MEER TE LEZEN...

 

in DIE GROEPEN....

 

 

 

Toch gebruikt men het argument dat "DE VRAAG" NIET MEER MAG GESTELD worden, omdat ze al te VEEL is behandeld!....

 

 

 

Bemerk hoe men klaagt op 12 JANUARI over een ARIKEL

 

dat NU NIET MEER te zien is in de NIEUWS-GROEP...

 

maar dat wel de aanleiding was voor "2468 bezoekers op 11 januari 2001" (NEDSTAT)

 

(Vlak daarna is DEJANEWS.COM ook overgenomen door GOOGLE, toeval?)

 

 

 

>From: "mark peeters"

>To: markpeeters07@hotmail.com

>Subject: Fwd: CEASE AND DESIST

>Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 18:12:41 -0000

>

>

>

>

> >From: George William Herbert

> >To: markpeeters11@hotmail.com (marc peeters)

> >CC: gherbert@gw.retro.com

> >Subject: CEASE AND DESIST

> >Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 15:30:34 -0700

> >

> >The messages you have been submitting to my newsgroups are

> >OFF TOPIC AND NET ABUSE

> >

> >You were warned about this in January of this year and

> >are continuing to post.

> >

> >You are hereby

> >ORDERED TO CEASE AND DESIST POSTING SUCH MESSAGES

> >

> >I have already complained to your ISPs and geocities

> >requesting that they remove your accounts and websites

> >for having violated my previous orders to stop spamming

> >the groups I moderate. I will continue complaining

> >until your accounts are deleted unless you agree to

> >permanently end these postings.

> >

> >

> >-george william herbert

> >Moderator, sci.space.tech & sci.space.science

> >Moderator, sci.military.moderated

> >gherbert@retro.com

> >

> >------- Forwarded Messages

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> >Path: mail2news!atreyu.s-dreams.net!not-for-mail

> >From: markpeeters11@hotmail.com (marc peeters)

> >Newsgroups: sci.space.tech

> >Subject: Maximum-speed for an man-made object of 1 kg is less than 10,000mph

> >Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 21:48:12 +0000 (UTC)

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> >NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 21:48:12 +0000 (UTC)

> >Mail-From: markpeeters11@hotmail.com from root@atreyu.s-dreams.net [194.7.69.4]

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> >

> >Do you know a scientific publication about this?

> >

> >Or do you know a scientific publication (f.i. Fysical Review)

> >that claims a speed for a man-made object of 1 kg, that is higher than

> >10,000mph?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >- --

> >Posted from root@atreyu.s-dreams.net [194.7.69.4]

> >via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG

> >

> >------- Message 2

> >

> >Return-Path: gherbert

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> > Mon, 7 May 2001 15:11:53 -0700 (PDT)

> >Message-Id: <200105072211.PAA06063@gw.retro.com>

> >To: abuse@s-dreams.net, abuse@hotmail.com

> >cc: gherbert

> >Subject: spam of my newsgroups

> >Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 15:11:53 -0700

> >From: George William Herbert

> >Content-Length: 27695

> >

> >

> >Greetings. Marc Peeters has been repeatedly ordered

> >to stop trying to post to this newsgroup for ongoing

> >spam advertisements of his websites and various kook

> >activities which are completely off charter. See appended

> >complaint of Jan 12 this year.

> >

> >Well, he's back. He's using hotmail again (or claims to be):

> > markpeeters11@hotmail.com (marc peeters)

> >...and posting via a s-dreams.net server and mailgate.

> >Please investegate and take appropriate action such as

> >termination of service to his accounts for continuing

> >these off topic, inappropriate postings.

> >

> >Thank you.

> >

> >

> >- -george william herbert

> >Moderator, sci.space.tech & sci.space.science

> >Moderator, sci.military.moderated

> >gherbert@retro.com

> >

> >

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> >From: markpeeters11@hotmail.com (marc peeters)

> >Newsgroups: sci.space.tech

> >Subject: Maximum-speed for an man-made object of 1 kg is less than 10,000mph

> >Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 21:48:12 +0000 (UTC)

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> >

> >Do you know a scientific publication about this?

> >

> >Or do you know a scientific publication (f.i. Fysical Review)

> >that claims a speed for a man-made object of 1 kg, that is higher than

> >10,000mph?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >- - --

> >Posted from root@atreyu.s-dreams.net [194.7.69.4]

> >via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG

> >

> >- ------- End of Forwarded Message

> >

> >(Message space.abuse:36)

> >

> >Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 20:43:31 PST

> >To: abuse@hotmail.com, abuse@my-deja.com, abuse@oocities.com

> >cc: gherbert

> >From: George William Herbert

> >Subject: ongoing off topic posting attempts by Mark Peters

> >

> >Return-Path: gherbert

> >Delivery-Date: Fri Jan 12 20:47:20 2001

> >Delivery-Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 20:47:20 -0800

> >Content-Length: 24631

> >

> >

> >Greetings. I am the moderator for the Usenet newsgroups

> >sci.space.tech and sci.space.science , and I have a problem

> >with one of your users...

> >

> >Last Friday, Jan 5, I notified Deja usenet poster Mark Peters

> >(XMYDJUIDmarkpeeters13) to cease and desist trying to post his

> >off topic kook material to my newsgroups. Today (early this morning)

> >he posted 2 more messages to the groups, defying my explicit order

> >of last friday to cease doing so. This is net abuse and violation

> >of my groups' charters. Please investegate and take appropriate

> >actions to see that he does not post this any more and does not

> >cause any other spam related problems. He's using a geocities

> >website for his materials and gave a hotmail mailback account

> >as well; I believe that Usenet spamming in violation of Moderators

> >orders is against both of your AUPs as well, so please take

> >appropriate action on those.

> >

> >Excerpted from the last post:

> >E-mail : markpeeters13@hotmail.com

> >X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDmarkpeeters13

> > http://www.oocities.org/CapeCanaveral/Lab/1917/proof.html

> >

> >Thank you.

> >

> >

> >- -george william herbert

> >Moderator, sci.space.tech & sci.space.science

> >Moderator, sci.military.moderated

> >gherbert@retro.com

> >

> >

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> >To: sci-space-tech@moderators.isc.org

> >Path: not-for-mail

> >From: markpeeters13@my-deja.com

> >Newsgroups: sci.space.history,sci.space.tech

> >Subject: Re: [Q] Apollo velocity measurements

> >Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 04:34:26 GMT

> >Organization: Deja.com

> >Lines: 41

> >Message-ID: <92rloj$4dp$1@nnrp1.deja.com>

> >References: <3a4ccc5c$1_1@news.pacifier.com> > >3160$RB2.945816@typhoon.mn.mediaone.net> > >$RB2.1357282@typhoon.mn.mediaone.net>

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> > 212.87.117.249

> >X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDmarkpeeters13

> >Content-Length: 1045

> >

> >

> > > I don't see the word "verified" in the post at all.

> >

> >I see it clearly :

> >

> >"I was wondering how this was verified. If this is a dumb

> > question, please whack me."

> >

> >And "yes" the question is "dumb", because "space-travel is fake"

> >

> >The question about "VERIFICATION" is SCIENTIFIC....

> >SCIENCE is based on VERIFICTION...

> >SPACE-TRAVEL is based on VIRTUAL REALITY...

> >

> >2001. A Space Odyssee. Science Fiction...

> >

> >

> >

> >For space-travel around the earth, a velocity of 28.000km/hr or

> >17,000mph is needed..

> >(Nasa admits this.f.i.tel.001-202-554-3024 lpeters@mail.hq.nasa.gov)

> >

> >

> >The maximum speed that was ever demonstrated on ground level was less

> >than 600km/hr or 400mph...

> >Did you ever see a higher speed than 400mph?

> >

> >TRUST-NO-ONE, certainly not THRUST-2 in SALT-LAKE-CITY!

> >(2 is NOT-ONE)

> >You must take it with a LITTLE SALT...

> >

> >

> >So why should believe that 400mph is greater than 17,000mph?

> >

> >PLEASE DO NOT REACT UNLESS YOU CLAIM THE NUMBERS ARE WRONG...

> >

> >http://www.oocities.org/CapeCanaveral/Lab/1917/proof.html

> >

> >

> >Sent via Deja.com

> >http://www.deja.com/

> >

> >- ------- Message 2

> >

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> >To: sci-space-tech@moderators.isc.org

> >Path: not-for-mail

> >From: markpeeters13@my-deja.com

> >Newsgroups: sci.space.tech

> >Subject: Re: [Q] Apollo velocity measurements

> >Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 04:34:52 GMT

> >Organization: Deja.com

> >Lines: 41

> >Message-ID: <92rlpc$4e0$1@nnrp1.deja.com>

> >References: <3a4ccc5c$1_1@news.pacifier.com> > >3160$RB2.945816@typhoon.mn.mediaone.net> > >$RB2.1357282@typhoon.mn.mediaone.net>

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> > 212.87.117.249

> >X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDmarkpeeters13

> >Content-Length: 1045

> >

> >

> > > I don't see the word "verified" in the post at all.

> >

> >I see it clearly :

> >

> >"I was wondering how this was verified. If this is a dumb

> > question, please whack me."

> >

> >And "yes" the question is "dumb", because "space-travel is fake"

> >

> >The question about "VERIFICATION" is SCIENTIFIC....

> >SCIENCE is based on VERIFICTION...

> >SPACE-TRAVEL is based on VIRTUAL REALITY...

> >

> >2001. A Space Odyssee. Science Fiction...

> >

> >

> >

> >For space-travel around the earth, a velocity of 28.000km/hr or

> >17,000mph is needed..

> >(Nasa admits this.f.i.tel.001-202-554-3024 lpeters@mail.hq.nasa.gov)

> >

> >

> >The maximum speed that was ever demonstrated on ground level was less

> >than 600km/hr or 400mph...

> >Did you ever see a higher speed than 400mph?

> >

> >TRUST-NO-ONE, certainly not THRUST-2 in SALT-LAKE-CITY!

> >(2 is NOT-ONE)

> >You must take it with a LITTLE SALT...

> >

> >

> >So why should believe that 400mph is greater than 17,000mph?

> >

> >PLEASE DO NOT REACT UNLESS YOU CLAIM THE NUMBERS ARE WRONG...

> >

> >http://www.oocities.org/CapeCanaveral/Lab/1917/proof.html

> >

> >

> >Sent via Deja.com

> >http://www.deja.com/

> >

> >- ------- Message 3

> >

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> >Jan 2001 23:50:46 -0600

> >To: sci-space-tech@moderators.isc.org

> >Path: not-for-mail

> >From: markpeeters13@my-deja.com

> >Newsgroups: sci.space.tech

> >Subject: Re: [Q] Apollo velocity measurements

> >Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 05:50:47 GMT

> >Organization: Deja.com

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> >Message-ID: <933nbm$qa6$1@nnrp1.deja.com>

> >References: <3a4ccc5c$1_1@news.pacifier.com> > >mediaone.net> > >ne.net> > > >

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> >

> >

> > >>> the apology

> >

> >

> >Is this a metafoor for the apollo-rockets who needed 17,000mph,

> >but where the verification of the measurements only demonstrated

> >1,000mph?

> >

> >

> >Do you apologise that the Apollo-rockets to the moon were fake?

> >

> >

> >http://www.oocities.org/CapeCanaveral/Lab/1917/proof.html

> >

> >

> >

> >Sent via Deja.com

> >http://www.deja.com/

> >

> >- ------- Message 4

> >

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> >To: sci-space-tech@moderators.isc.org

> >Path: not-for-mail

> >From: markpeeters13@my-deja.com

> >Newsgroups: sci.space.tech

> >Subject: Re: A dumb question about escape velocity

> >Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 05:57:26 GMT

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> >

> >Space-travel around the earth needs 17,000mph...

> >

> >The maximum-velocity that was ever demonstreted in a vacuum-tube for a

> >man-made object of more than 1 kilogram was LESS....

> >

> >

> >So space-travel is FAKE...

> >

> >

> >http://www.oocities.org/CapeCanaveral/Lab/1917/proof.html

> >

> >

> >In order to HIDE al this they confuse everybody by talking about

> >escape-velocity and about "weightless-ness in vacuum" , which is

> >BULLSHIT....

> >

> >

> >Sent via Deja.com

> >http://www.deja.com/

> >

> >- ------- Message 5

> >

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> >cc: abuse@my-deja.com, gherbert

> >Subject: inappropriate posts to sci.space.tech

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> >Please cease and desist posting paranoid rants to

> >the newsgroups which I moderate. Any further posts

> >will result in my requesting deja deactivate your

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> >- - -george william herbert

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> >From: markpeeters13@my-deja.com

> >Newsgroups: sci.space.history,sci.space.tech

> >Subject: Re: [Q] Apollo velocity measurements

> >Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 04:34:26 GMT

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> >References: <3a4ccc5c$1_1@news.pacifier.com> > >3160$RB2.945816@typhoon.mn.mediaone.net> > >$RB2.1357282@typhoon.mn.mediaone.net>

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> >

> > > I don't see the word "verified" in the post at all.

> >

> >I see it clearly :

> >

> >"I was wondering how this was verified. If this is a dumb

> > question, please whack me."

> >

> >And "yes" the question is "dumb", because "space-travel is fake"

> >

> >The question about "VERIFICATION" is SCIENTIFIC....

> >SCIENCE is based on VERIFICTION...

> >SPACE-TRAVEL is based on VIRTUAL REALITY...

> >

> >2001. A Space Odyssee. Science Fiction...

> >

> >

> >

> >For space-travel around the earth, a velocity of 28.000km/hr or

> >17,000mph is needed..

> >(Nasa admits this.f.i.tel.001-202-554-3024 lpeters@mail.hq.nasa.gov)

> >

> >

> >The maximum speed that was ever demonstrated on ground level was less

> >than 600km/hr or 400mph...

> >Did you ever see a higher speed than 400mph?

> >

> >TRUST-NO-ONE, certainly not THRUST-2 in SALT-LAKE-CITY!

> >(2 is NOT-ONE)

> >You must take it with a LITTLE SALT...

> >

> >

> >So why should believe that 400mph is greater than 17,000mph?

> >

> >PLEASE DO NOT REACT UNLESS YOU CLAIM THE NUMBERS ARE WRONG...

> >

> >http://www.oocities.org/CapeCanaveral/Lab/1917/proof.html

> >

> >

> >Sent via Deja.com

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> >From: markpeeters13@my-deja.com

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> >Subject: Re: [Q] Apollo velocity measurements

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> >

> > > I don't see the word "verified" in the post at all.

> >

> >I see it clearly :

> >

> >"I was wondering how this was verified. If this is a dumb

> > question, please whack me."

> >

> >And "yes" the question is "dumb", because "space-travel is fake"

> >

> >The question about "VERIFICATION" is SCIENTIFIC....

> >SCIENCE is based on VERIFICTION...

> >SPACE-TRAVEL is based on VIRTUAL REALITY...

> >

> >2001. A Space Odyssee. Science Fiction...

> >

> >

> >

> >For space-travel around the earth, a velocity of 28.000km/hr or

> >17,000mph is needed..

> >(Nasa admits this.f.i.tel.001-202-554-3024 lpeters@mail.hq.nasa.gov)

> >

> >

> >The maximum speed that was ever demonstrated on ground level was less

> >than 600km/hr or 400mph...

> >Did you ever see a higher speed than 400mph?

> >

> >TRUST-NO-ONE, certainly not THRUST-2 in SALT-LAKE-CITY!

> >(2 is NOT-ONE)

> >You must take it with a LITTLE SALT...

> >

> >

> >So why should believe that 400mph is greater than 17,000mph?

> >

> >PLEASE DO NOT REACT UNLESS YOU CLAIM THE NUMBERS ARE WRONG...

> >

> >http://www.oocities.org/CapeCanaveral/Lab/1917/proof.html

> >

> >

> >Sent via Deja.com

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> >

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> >From: markpeeters13@my-deja.com

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> >Subject: Re: [Q] Apollo velocity measurements

> >Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 05:50:47 GMT

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> >

> > >>> the apology

> >

> >

> >Is this a metafoor for the apollo-rockets who needed 17,000mph,

> >but where the verification of the measurements only demonstrated

> >1,000mph?

> >

> >

> >Do you apologise that the Apollo-rockets to the moon were fake?

> >

> >

> >http://www.oocities.org/CapeCanaveral/Lab/1917/proof.html

> >

> >

> >

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> >From: markpeeters13@my-deja.com

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> >Subject: Re: A dumb question about escape velocity

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> >Space-travel around the earth needs 17,000mph...

> >

> >The maximum-velocity that was ever demonstreted in a vacuum-tube for a

> >man-made object of more than 1 kilogram was LESS....

> >

> >

> >So space-travel is FAKE...

> >

> >

> >http://www.oocities.org/CapeCanaveral/Lab/1917/proof.html

> >

> >

> >In order to HIDE al this they confuse everybody by talking about

> >escape-velocity and about "weightless-ness in vacuum" , which is

> >BULLSHIT....

> >

> >

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> >Subject: Re: [Q] Apollo velocity measurements

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> >WAKE UP, AMERICA!

> >IT IS 2001!

> >2001. A SPACE ODYSSEE (1968).

> >IT WAS FICTION.

> >IT WAS A REALISTIC MOVIE,

> >BUT IT WAS A VIRTUAL REALITY.

> >SO...THe Moon landing (1969) was also fake!

> >

> >SPACE-TRAVEL IS also FAKE,

> >since space-travel around the earth needs 17,000mph

> >and since nobody demonstrated more than 3,000mph,

> >not even for an bullet of 10 gram

> >or a small rocket of 1 kilogram in a VACUUM-TUBE!

> >

> > http://www.oocities.org/CapeCanaveral/Lab/1917/proof.html

> >

> >E-mail : markpeeters13@hotmail.com

> >

> >

> >Sent via Deja.com

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> >WAKE UP, AMERICA!

> >IT IS 2001!

> >2001. A SPACE ODYSSEE (1968).

> >IT WAS FICTION.

> >IT WAS A REALISTIC MOVIE,

> >BUT IT WAS A VIRTUAL REALITY.

> >SO...THe Moon landing (1969) was also fake!

> >

> >SPACE-TRAVEL IS also FAKE,

> >since space-travel around the earth needs 17,000mph

> >and since nobody demonstrated more than 3,000mph,

> >not even for an bullet of 10 gram

> >or a small rocket of 1 kilogram in a VACUUM-TUBE!

> >

> > http://www.oocities.org/CapeCanaveral/Lab/1917/proof.html

> >

> >E-mail : markpeeters13@hotmail.com

> >

> >

> >Sent via Deja.com

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> >From: markpeeters11@hotmail.com (marc peeters)

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> >Subject: space travel is fake

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> >To: abuse@oocities.com, abuse@hotmail.com, abuse@s-dreams.net

> >cc: gherbert

> >Subject: Ongoing spam postings by Marc Peeters.

> >Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 15:18:58 -0700

> >From: George William Herbert

> >Content-Length: 2382

> >

> >

> >I sent a complaint slightly earlier, but he's still at it.

> >This time he's spamming ads for yet another geocities

> >website he runs. On top of which, the Geocities website

> >he was spamming ads for in January is still up and live.

> >

> >Geocities: please terminate web services to:

> > http://www.oocities.org/markpeeters96/q00.html (current spam)

> >and the previous spammed site at:

> > http://www.oocities.org/CapeCanaveral/Lab/1917/

> >

> >Hotmail and s-dreams, *PLEASE* take effective action to terminate

> >this series of spamming.

> >

> >Thank you.

> >

> >

> >- -george william herbert

> >Moderator, sci.space.tech & sci.space.science

> >Moderator, sci.military.moderated

> >gherbert@retro.com

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