3rd October, 2000
p a n d e m o n i u m
Tuesday
Evening
International
AOL
Chat
Carl,
Iris
& Franz
You have just entered room "panta98 Chat12."
Einai2000 has entered the room.
CarlZim8 has entered
the room.
Einai2000:Hello,
good evening, Carl!
panta98:Hi! Everybody!!
Einai2000:Hi,
Franz!
panta98:Glad to see you, Carl.
Hi! Iris!!
panta98:Khalid
phoned from Toronto a while ago, with Sprint he can't get online.
panta98:Not only did Sprint
try to hack me, now it is trying to "sabotage" our AOL-Chat!
Einai2000:Yes,
it seems so, Franz. Trouble with the light here in your University
office;
next time I will bring candles with, Franz.
CarlZim8:I had to reinstall
my modem.
panta98:Well, as Jeff used
to say, when he was still in our midst: "That's Venezuella, Iris!"
Einai2000:Yes,
he was so right, our good old Jeff!
Einai2000:...At
least, the PC still works - light enough, focused on AOL now... will
you
start, Franz?
panta98:If I remember
correctly,
I have to tell you some "1984" anecdotes today, about my youth, and
then
towards Apartheid "1984". Are you ready?
Einai2000:We
are, Franz, go ahead! Some nice anecdotes!
Einai2000:...before
we get cut off, too...
panta98:Well, folks, let me
relate my early 1984 experiences in Apartheid South Africa.
Today, we'll just deal with PART I - my youth on Poplar Farm, and my
promotion,
from "cow-boy" to physical labourer, to toil for the Boers, on
their
huge white farms.
Einai2000:Please
proceed, Franz.
panta98:Next time, I'll explain
my experiences as an exploited office clerk by wealthy Jews in the
Capetonian
industrial complex, Langa, and my degradation to a beggar, a lumpen,
in the delinquent "District Six" at the foot of Table Mountain: that
was,
my turbulent entrance into active political, revolutionary life.
panta98:Is
that, OK?
panta98:So,
there we go: Once upon a time ....
Einai2000:That's
fine with me, Franz - physical labour, intellectual labour, exploited...
panta98:OK, Iris, but before
we commence: be comfortable and relaxed, take a matte tea, everything
that
ensues now is simple, warm fire-side talk, cosy gaffing about the
"good,
old days" of yore.
panta98:Innocently,
I was born on October 29, 1938, in Ficksburg, South Africa, from
my "Coloured" mother, more Xhosa than anything else, Maria Smith,
and my British father, Franz Tennyson Lee, anything else than a
"white". May they "rest in motion"!
panta98:
Little thing, poor me, little did I know into what a "contradiction",
as
"contradiction", I was born.
panta98:A
dialogical product of "Black" and "White", a "Coloured", neither Black
nor White. Ab ovo, what a philosophical premonition! A "bad
omen"
for South Africa; a "menetekel" for "mankind".
CarlZim8:Franz, I hope you
realize that you were exploited by wealthy Jews not because they were
Jews
but they were part of an exploitative millieu.
panta98:Iris, can you follow?
Do you see some familiar things written there? Yes, Carl. That's the
socio-economic
environment.
Einai2000:I'm
listening, please proceed.
Einai2000:Yes,
Franz.
panta98:Strange, Iris. That
in Apartheid Nazi South Africa, exactly Jews had to exploit me.
panta98:But,
I'm not "normal"; things always happen "differently" with me. But,
let's
continue ....
CarlZim8:Because they were
part of that millieu.
panta98:Yes, Carl, now look
at this: Nobody, except my parents, wanted me. I was not black enough,
not white enough! Not even the young pretty girls liked me, for the
very
same ideological reason. Poor Lonesome Me! A real "black" sheep, at
least,
not a cloned "Daisy", within the South African Flock. But, I was no
"chip"
from the old block.
Einai2000:I
do love this "difference", you know...
CarlZim8:However, many Jews
fought Apartheid in South Africa and in other countries.
panta98:Iris, poor Fransie!!!
Yes, Carl, but not the wealthy ones who employed me in Langa, Cape Town.
CarlZim8:Franz, I'm also the
product of integration under the bedsheet.
panta98: Carl. Also not those
of Long Island and Manhattan. And not the Zionists in Israel.
panta98:....
From bad to worse, at the age of nine months, as a result of ignorance
and medical negligence, I lost half of my eye-sight, which I would
never
ever recover again.
panta98:An
"excellent" way to start life in an Orwellian "1984".
panta98:Well,
Carl, then we are "blood brothers"!
panta98:Thereafter,
having spent two years in a primitive hospital, at least, I had some
natural
food to eat, and physical and mentally I became really fit: no
malnutrition,
no deficit of necessary vitamins and minerals.
CarlZim8:Lots in Long Island,
and Zionists in Israel, especially the Sephardic from North Africa,
Iran,
the Meditteranean, Yemen, Iraq, etc.
panta98:Truly so, Carl. Later,
I thought: it's an ill wind that blows nobody "good". Social and
physical
disadvantages transformed themselves into their very opposite. I
remained
physically fit, never entered a hospital again, and mentally
ingeniously
active -- although across the coming decades many a fellow(wo)men
thought
that I was fit for the madhouse.
panta98:Please
save the chat -- in case, CANTV and AOL decide to play monkey tricks.
CarlZim8:Horrible, Franz.
Einai2000:I'll
do so, Franz.
CarlZim8:
l'll also save it as insurance.
panta98:In no time, I was the
fittest in the primary farm school, and the second best in the class
always
came ages behind me; I always felt "bad" that I stole the "birthright"
of the real Number One. I became known as a little "genius" -- at
least,
this saved me from many a racially discriminated social horror and
terror.
panta98:Everbody
noticed that I was "otherwise", very "strange", hence I was not
pestered
too much.Of course, as time flies by, it will fling me into the
"racist"
boiling epicentre of the South African Orwellian political cauldron.
panta98:Meanwhile,
the "calm before the storm" reigned. After six years of primary
schooling,
I was "pensioned" academically, and sent to work on the farm of my
grandfather,
also to tend cattle.
CarlZim8:I had similar
experiences,
Franz, as part German, Austrian, Albanian. Ukrainian, Kazakh...
CarlZim8:
... Jewish,
Muslim,
Orthodox & Christian.
panta98:Well, it was a deja
vu of our current Pandemonium Farm: "Good" things always come twice
in a lifetime! As Marx said in his 18th Brumaire: "Horrible"
things also come twice; at first as a tragedy, then, as a farce.
CarlZim8: ... with severe nerve
deafness (birth defect).
panta98:Next time, Carl, you
could relate your 1984 experiences. I'll need two sessions to complete
this adventure.
CarlZim8:Agreed, Franz.
panta98:....
I must admit, those were wonderful, happy, jolly times. There I learned
what are Nature, Cosmos, Love. I used to daydream for hours, just
basking
in the friendly sun, studying the variegated clouds passing by, ...
panta98:... and listening to
the melody of the whispering wind; also smelling the fragrance of
healthy
fruit tree flowers, enjoying the beauty of the wild flowers, teasing
the
grass-hoppers, ants and busy bees.
panta98:It
was not really "work"; on the family farm, we acted for ourselves,
"surviving"
in harmonious, agricultural autarchy.
panta98:It
was a huge farm, with hundreds of birds, animals, trees, forests,
mountains,
rivers, etc. I just had fun. Of course, sad to say, I was trapping
birds
and animals, shooting around like in the Wild West. Orwell's
prediction,
made at that very time, was already affecting me.
panta98:I
was such an excellent marksman, the poor little birdies. What a monster
I must have been!
panta98:However,
I also had a tender side: For the Sunday meal, chopping off the head of
a chicken, that was not my favourite pastime. My brother and I always
had
a fight on this issue. Who will be the "hangman"? Meanwhile, the hen
escaped
into the forest, saving her dear life. And we got the spanking of our
life
from our grandfather.
CarlZim8:Franz, my
multi-ethnic,
religious, cultural, non-racist neighborhood as a youth in Bronx, USA,
neutralized my 1984 experience considerably ...
CarlZim8:
but that's another story. Please proceed ...
panta98:That was "divide et
impera", in favour of the poor hen. Later, till this day, I was
wondering
why one must destroy, kill, to survive. Also, I did not like the idea
of
picking flowers. They became sad, their petals hung down, and then they
fade away, they die. I preferred seeing them in their natural habitat,
blooming and blossoming, how and as they please.
panta98:In
fact, I was living in Paradise: East Of Eden: In fact, somehow, high up
in the mountains, I was living in a type of rare feudalism, probably,
in
pre-colonialism, nowhere a sign of electricity could be seen, no
telephone,
no radio, no newspaper, no music, no shop, no police-man, no "White".
panta98:
Much later, my rich white uncles brought a "His Master's Voice" from
Jo'burg,
and then we learned to dance to the rhythm of "Boere-Musiek". Except
dancing
"rock 'n roll", I never really became a dance star. I could not sing,
not
dance, not play music -- more reasons to be an outsider, and to
concentrate
on "other" things of life. Nonetheless, I loved to listen to natural
music
and sweet songs.
panta98:I
still knew how dark the night could be; and I enjoyed it, listening to
hooting owls on the roof, attracted by candle-light. Of course, I was
scared
to death, they told me that it was a "bad omen", and that somebody
within
our family would die soon.
panta98:
I was double-minded about this issue, and silently, I enjoyed the eerie
hooting of the poor night-bird, I wondered if it was also chasing mice
like our cats. During the day, I was again listening to the symphony of
the birds, enjoying the blue sky and the sub-tropical warmth. I dreamt
about doing something, something different for mankind.
panta98:
Of course, I was experiencing an immediate existence. I had no idea
abour
racism and capitalism. I did not know what was happening in the world.
Till today, I can't remember what real problems my family had; they
never
communicated their social reality to me.
panta98:
Who knows, probably, I was so busy with my own "world", that I never
listened
to them; a priori, I must have sensed danger, coming Orwellian
hell -- and I still wanted to enjoy the last few setting rays of
beautiful-loving,
sunny, natural-social, real, historic reality.
panta98:
I enjoyed emancipation, without knowing what it was, and what it was
all
about. The natural, healthy animals, birds, insects, trees and plants
enjoyed
it with me, communicated with me, we had a real "ball".
panta98:
Others called this a dream-world, but, who knows, perhaps, their
so-called
"reality" was a world of permanent, agonizing night-mares. I just
protested,
refused to enter this world of labour, of labour pain. But, my turn
will
come.
CarlZim8:Same here in Bronx,
USA.
CarlZim8:No
whites, no blacks, just humans.
panta98: And
I was convinced that I could, would contribute something to change this
"Horror Chamber of Dr. Mabuse". I still had no idea, whether from
within
or from without, from both, or from neither of the two. It would take
me
half-a-century of severe brain-storming to sort that one out.
panta98
Of course, my younger brother, Elfie, and my still younger sister,
Frances,
were also living on the farm with us. As youngsters are, we were
neither
angels nor devils. We told "white" lies to save ourselves from the
wrath
of "Oupa", also we pinched "condensed milk", smoked sausages,
"biltong",
dried fruits and other farm delicatessen.
panta98
Now and then, we robbed the original farm-grown tobacco,
"Kaffer-Tabak",
and started to roll "stompies" to smoke. We wanted to feel like the
"Bushmen"
who smoked "dagga" for millennia, and reached the average age of 100
years.
However, all tasted horrible, after a coughing chorus, we refrained
from
this life-endowing nicotine experiment.
panta98: Moreover,
I studied local medicine, wanted to become a "witch-doctor", a
"medicine-man",
to treat my fellow-shepherds, who were bitten by poisonous snakes. I
started
to repair clocks, and even to build the first radio in the area; and it
worked.
panta98:And,
like in San Onofre, the place was full of some of the most poisonous
snakes
of the world.
panta98:However,
I never bothered them, and they never terrorized me. Later I'll learn
about
the "lair of two-footed snakes", about the Illuminati, about "the
generation
of vipers", about whom Jesus Christ spoke in the New Testament, about
Orwellian
capitalism.
Einai2000:Wow,
Franz! And you never built a radio for me!
Einai2000: Sorry,
please proceed...
panta98:I had a sort of
emancipatory
snake aura, aurora. That type of ophis, which Phythia used in
her
oracles, which could be seen in health imagery, in olden pharmacies,
when
they were not yet monopolized.
CarlZim8:Same in Bronx, USA.
We were bare-footed doctors and built short wave radios.
panta98:Iris, well, I forgot
now, how to do it, all about the spirals, razor blade, steel needles,
batteries,
etc. But, I could build you a new method, an original way of thinking,
another reality.
CarlZim8:We
started with crystal radios, then Heathkits with tubes.
panta98:However, Iris, in
Nigeria,
they are better, they listen to their radio stations in the leaves of
the
palm trees, I don't know how they do that.
panta98:Perhaps,
Tesla will inform us.
CarlZim8:We used Tesla coils.
panta98: At the age of 13,
I used Tesla coils too, not knowing anything about "New Energy" or
"Orgone".
You see, Carl. Like Winnetou, I was hot on your trail.
Einai2000:I
was just teasing you a bit, Franz! Probably we will find out about
Tesla!
CarlZim8:Help from immigrants
fom Germany after World War II
panta98:Probably that was what
I was using and doing, quite naturally.
panta98:I
even started building telephones, they also worked, with the most
simplest
materials.
panta98:Anyhow,
all fiery youngsters, in their youthful daydreams, do these things,
before
ideology and religion massacre everything, reducing them to benumbed,
bedumbed
"cattle", ready for the slaughterhouse. Let's proceed. ....
CarlZim8:Hey, guys. please
visit the Tesla sites, and read my messages on Tesla technology in our
forums.
panta98:OK,
Carl, we'll read your materials.
Einai2000:We'll
do so, Carl.
panta98:Of course, having spent
my first years in a hospital, I desired to become a medical doctor, but
my bad eye-sight was a stumbling-block. Later I opted for a
mind-doctor,
to study philosophy.
panta98:Wherever
I could find a paper, brought by my "white" aunts and uncles from the
Golden
City, or, for that matter, anything on which something was written, I
devoured
it.
panta98:The people told me
that I'm a "book-worm", and that I would get "nutty" in no time.
panta98:Of
course, without knowing it, they were right.
panta98:Now,
I'm the "nutty" professor here.
Einai2000:You
are the sweetest professor ever been seen, I wish I would have some of
your kind in Germany, my dear!
panta98:I even read under the
blankets at night, enjoying the new technology, my dearest possession:
a torch light, powered by batteries. After all, I didn't bother about
smoking,
drinking and "gals". Just an excellent guy, ready for any type of
religious
"conversion". I was just an orderly child, abiding to social and
parental
rules.
CarlZim8:My poor hearing
stopped
me from being a medical doctor, so I got a Bachelor's degree in
Physical
Chemistry and an MBA.
panta98:But, not yet for
"subversion"!
Yes, Carl. Also you made the utmost "best" of severe, adverse
conditions
of life.
panta98:Again,
Carl, as I said before, we were hot on each other's trails, creating
future
"pandemonium".
panta98:Carl,
but now, for a while, our ways are going to part, .... Yes, the first
stage
of religious "mind-control" arrived; subtly, in the form of Roman
Catholicism.
panta98:Of
course, the Lee family is highly religious, but, to a certain extent,
they took the "Ten Commandments" seriously; at least, this is certainly
valid for me. For some decades, on Poplar Farm, the Anglican Church
enjoyed
its heyday.
CarlZim8:Yep. Lots of people
like author Howard Fast studied under candlelight.
panta98:However, soon some
Roman Catholic priests invaded the region, and convinced my grandfather
that Catholicism was the one and only true religion on earth. Being the
omnipotent ruler in the region, by decree, "Oupa" converted us all into
Catholics.
CarlZim8:In
my neighborhood ...
panta98:Poor me, I landed in
the religious, ideological superstructure of the Dark Ages.
CarlZim8:
... there was
no true religion in my neighborhood.
panta98:Soon, I'll be a
Giordano
Bruno, escape the Roman Inquisition like Galileo, and will then end up
with Einstein, Hegel, Marx and Bloch, eventually with myself.
CarlZim8:We are all living
in the Dark Ages.
panta98:What a sojourn through
the superstructure of the Fatherland!
CarlZim8:I'll wind up like
Marcuse and Brecht.
panta98:But ... the life
experience
is worth it. 1984 must be enjoyed in all facets, in its horrors
and emancipatory lessons.
panta98:...
In those days, around 1950, Holy Mass was still celebrated in Latin. I
became an altar boy, and had to cite all the Latin phrases, without any
idea, what they really meant. Et in terra pax ....
CarlZim8:Agreed, Franz.
panta98:At least, I had my
first Latin classes; every night, before going to bed, I had to read a
chapter each from the Old and New Testament to the family. Well, I
learned
to know my English, and my Holy Bible. Afrikaans and Xhosa I spoke
outside
with the herdsmen and black farm labourers.
panta98:It
was not really: Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa!! But it
would help me to learn Spanish many decades later.
CarlZim8:I had to study some
Hebrew, Arabic, Greek and Latin for 4 religions.
panta98:Anyhow, et cum spiritu
tuo .... The priest, Father Cahi, of the St. Joseph's Catholic School,
in Aliwal North, about 200 kilometres away, was just fascinated by my
talented
service to the Virgin Mary and her immaculately conceived son, Jesus
Christ.
panta98:He
convinced my grandfather that I would make an excellent future priest
for
the farm diocese, and that he'll take me with him, to attend his
theological
seminar. Also, that I was a perfect candidate to recruit "sheep" for
the
"Holy Shepherd". After all, I had great "shepherd-oriented" experience
in my early youth!
Einai2000:...because
you were probably the only one
ueberhaupt who took all this in serious,
Franz.
panta98:Excellent, Carl. our
"parallel universes" were very similar. Iris, exactly that was the
point.
With all my mistakes and errors, I took religion and Christianity
seriously,
that's why, much later, I could completely negate them, superate them,
transcend them, and with them, the system that had produced them.
CarlZim8:In that regard, the
Jews are no different than any other culture. The big fuss is about
their
association with Jesus Christ.
panta98:We had excellent German
Sisters, teaching us English Literature and the Holy Scriptures. My
favourite
class was English: taught by Sister Superior, not yet "Big Brother",
reading
a "Tale of Two Cities", "Hamlet", "Pride and Prejudice", etc.
panta98:Little
did I know that I would occupy myself very soon with "race prejudice",
with the ideology of "racism". Anyhow, I enjoyed Jane Austen, being
introduced
to the comedy of manners of middle-class life in England. Thus I
had my "First Impressions" of British capitalism. "A Tale Of Two
Cities"
introduced me to the horrors of the French bourgeois-democratic,
capitalist
revolution.
CarlZim8:Once the alliance
between Jews and Palestinians , which is developing behind the scenes,
materializes in Israel, perspective will result.
panta98:We even had language
and religious competitions, and again, with a Pope Pius IX essay, I
usurped
all the religious prizes. Night and day, 25 times, we were praying; in
fact, for the three years which I spent there, it should be enough for
a whole life. My "place" that Jesus went to prepare for me, is secure.
If he did not, then it's not worth going there.
panta98:Correctly
so, Carl.
panta98:However,
in 1955, I was smelling a rat somewhere, I changed my mind, after
reading
Bertrand Russel's History
of Western Philosophy, especially
the chapter on Heracleitus, I did not want to study theology anymore, I
became interested in philosophy. As punishment for my disobedience, as
ungrateful creature, I was decently thrown out of the Catholic Seminar.
Einai2000:That
is, you experienced precisely the kind of colonialist religious
education
Walter
Rodney described in his book, "How Europe Underdeveloped Africa",
Franz.
CarlZim8:Yep, Iris.
panta98:Yes, Iris. They were
teaching me how excellent the Apartheid system was, that I had to
suffer
in this world. And that I must follow their slogan, on their badge: Ora
et Labora!
panta98:And,
that this would be a sure one-way ticket to heavenly bliss. This was
Catholic
religious "newspeak", that had supported Hitler a few years before. I
preferred
my obsolete "oldspeak". Till today, I say, write and think the things
my
way. At least, it's mine, my ideas.
CarlZim8:Franz, that wouldn't
have occurred in the Catholic Church in Bronx, USA.
panta98:That the priests are
the chosen people to lead me towards divine glory, etc.
CarlZim8:In 1948, we
demonstrated
vs. Malan's Apartheid in South Africa.
panta98:No, because this
ex-British
colony, that generated the first colonial revolution, the USA,
was
then still somehow "revolutionary", too Protestant, too Anglican. Not
Calvinist,
not feudalist, at all. Not even the "feudalist" Deep South, during the
Civil War, came close to this South African Catholic bigotry and
obscurantism.
But, Carl & Bill would know better. I'm no expert in that field.
panta98:
Of course, there are many exceptions, many "good" Catholics, but they
prove
the golden rule. Yes, in 1948, at the age of 10, I was still tending
cattle,
still milking sheep and goats, building radios and telephones,
repairing
clocks and watches. I was not yet a political rebel.
Einai2000:They,
or more precisely what they represented and stood for, were the
"starting
point", the affirmation of the system, which you were going to identify
soon, and negate it ... "smelling a rat"...
panta98:
D'accord.
Iris.
CarlZim8:Ironically, in New
York City in the 1950's, the name of the Communist youth organization
was
the Labor Youth League.
panta98:Thereafter, the next
chapter of my life opened.
panta98:From
primitive autarchy, I moved on to farm labour, to feudalism and
slavery,
at their worst.
panta98:I
went to Britstown, in the arid Great Karoo, where my father was
teaching
in a Dutch Reformed (Calvinist) community; I enrolled for a
correspondence
course, to matriculate, to attend university classes later, while I was
earning a pittance, doing farm labour in the vicinity, to pay for
further
studies.
panta98:
The "Education For Barbarism" did not cater for my real education.
Bantu
or Coloured Education was fobidding me "to graze on the pastures" of
White
Society. My place in "society" was with the pick and axe, to be a
"hewer
of wood" and a "dragger of water". I did not belong to the "chosen
people".
Einai2000:But
please, proceed. Interesting, Carl -- there we have it as you
indicated:
the LABOUR youth League.
panta98:We worked very hard
on the white farms, swinging picks and axes scientifically.
CarlZim8:The LYL separated
labor (the industrial workers) and the black people who they perceived
were primitive sharecroppers.
CarlZim8:Bigotry
in the Labor Youth League
CarlZim8:What's
in a name? Labor = alienation.
panta98:Excellent, Carl.We
sung in Xhosa, which the Boer farmer did not understand, that we were
chopping
off his head, very, very soon. From the "Tale of Two Cities", I
remembered
that the French bourgeoisie did this with the aristocracy, and that it
was legal and legitimate in that epoch. There I was not hesitant
anymore,
it was not a hen, but a fat, tyrannical Dutchman, it was
bourgeois-democratic
justice.
CarlZim8:In Albania, the
Communist
Party was called the Party of Labor,
panta98:Yes, Carl. It was like
in the Southern cotton fields.
panta98:But,
I was part of the "field niggers", not the "house slaves".
CarlZim8:Enver Hoxha was the
Red Pasha.
panta98:I refused to say: Baas
(Boss), we're sick, when he was sneezing". It cost me many a pittance.
CarlZim8:I was a coolie (since
my mother's origin was Kazakh), we used Asian terms.
panta98:Most times, the farmers
just paid us in kind, some corn-flower and sugar, which I sold again,
to
get money, to pay for my private education, for my correspondence
course
from the Union College, Johannesburg, which was quite expensive.
panta98:Poor
Carl, a "Coolie" -- the sweetest little "Indian" of Agatha Christie
whom
I ever have seen.
CarlZim8:Or fellah (Arabic,
peasant). Palestine = Fellastin (Land of Peasants)..
panta98: Yes,
Carl. Who knows what!!
panta98:...
proceeding ... I learned to know the misery of farm labour and heinous
exploitation. From 6 o'clock to 8 o'clock at night I was toiling daily,
except Sunday. Then I went to bed, woke up daily, in the morning at
2.00
AM and studied till 5.00 AM. Even my father considered me to be totally
"crazy" -- but he never intervened. He was really the sweetest "Pappie"
that I ever have known. We all loved him dearly.
panta98:
Somehow, silently, he was like me. My mother was a totally different
person,
she must have inherited her personality from my great-great
grandmother,
Ouma
Grooitjie, the witch-doctress. But we loved her for that too.
panta98:Anyhow,
I passed most of my subjects with distinction, to such an extent that I
was granted a scholarship later, to continue my studies at the
University
of Tübingen, Germany, in 1962. This will be the next "Chapter",
next
week.
panta98:But,
let's summarize what happened before, between 1955 and 1962. In 1961,
searching
for new avenues, I left for Cape Town, to continue university studies
by
correspondence courses.
CarlZim8:In the 1940's movie,
"And then there were none", based on Christie's Ten Little
Indians, the last line was "Never trust a woman."
panta98:I stayed with my
"Muslim"
uncle, and he taught me all about the Quran, and about "Coloured"
industrial
proletarian life in the Big City. I worked as an office clerk in the
Western
Steel Company, in Langa, run by Jews, the Rabi's.
CarlZim8:Racist and sexist.
Einai2000:Truly
so, Carl.
panta98:I was the only
non-White
office worker, and I was not permitted to mix with the white ladies. I
had a segregated office, and being then a little mathematics genius, I
performed the same calculation work as four of them together; however,
only receiving a quarter of their wages.
panta98:But,
this new chapter, I leave for Part II, for next time.
panta98:Let's
continue with our discussion, in the light of the aforesaid.
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CarlZim8:The
Jews reflected
their millieu.
panta98:Agatha
Christie meant
herself: Never trust a detective, especially a female detective story
writer;
she'll surprise you all the way.
panta98:How
about a Science Writer, Carl?
CarlZim8:Unfortunately,
minorities
tend to adapt some disgusting traits of the majority in their culture
panta98:Why
do you say that,
Carl? What do you mean precisely about their "milieu"?
CarlZim8:Actually,
the "murderer"
said the sexist remark, as a woman exposed him.
Einai2000:...sorry,
have to read back the last few messages rapidly, the vigilante came in
a moment ago, telling me that I'm the last one here at the
university...just
give me a moment
panta98:Well,
Carl, the women
of this world will soon expose many a macho "murder". Strange, in South
Africa, Jews were "white", were treated as "first class citizens";
other
Asians, Iranians, Iraqui's not!
CarlZim8:It
was Barry Fitzgerald
who also played a Catholic priest in the movie Going my Way
panta98:Japanese
were "white",
Chinese were "Black", and "Indians" were "pitch-black".
CarlZim8:Jews
of European origin
(Ashkenazim), not Sephardim.
CarlZim8 has left the
room.
Einai2000:Franz,
Carl is still online, please reinvite him.
panta98:Strange
also, after
all that happened to the Jews in Nazi Germany, in Nazi-South Africa,
the
Jews supported and affirmed the black "concentration camps", and all
the
atrocities of White South Africa.
Einai2000:I
invited Carl...
CarlZim8 has left the
room.
panta98:Are
Jews schizophrenic?
Or do they have the memory of a "sheep", ready to be slaughtered? Or,
do
Jews change when they are multi-millionaires?
panta98:Iris,
I invited Carl. What's going on?
Einai2000:Franz,
I don't know, I invited Carl, too.
panta98:He
stands here on the
right, as invited!
panta98:By
you, too?
CarlZim8 has entered
the room.
Einai2000:Carl
sent me a message, I reinvited him once more, last attempt failed.
panta98:Ah,
there you are,
what happened?
Einai2000:Ah,
welcome back, Carl.
CarlZim8:Thanks,
Iris
Einai2000:You're
welcome.
CarlZim8:Got
disconnected.
CarlZim8:Consequently,
I couldn't save the chat.
panta98:Carl,
Are Jews schizophrenic?
Or do they have the memory of a "sheep", ready to be slaughtered?
Einai2000:I
saved the chat...
panta98:Or,
do Jews change
when they are multi-millionaires?
CarlZim8:Thanks,
Iris.
panta98:Or,
are they just like
other "humans", when they become part of a privileged, dominant class?
CarlZim8:They're
not different
than other multi-millionaires
CarlZim8:Same
as Arab oil sheiks.
panta98:Iris,
any comments,
any remarks?
Einai2000:Franz,
to get back to your introduction ...
CarlZim8:The
big deal is their
association with Jesus Christ.
panta98:Yes,
....
panta98:What
impressed you?
panta98:Or
depressed you? ...
CarlZim8:Everything,
Franz.
CarlZim8:Impressed
me.
Einai2000:You
suffered
as you said the effects, or more precisely, the relations
of "1984", decades ago already ...
panta98:The
oppression? That
the "girlies" didn't like me. Don't worry, they were just stupid. I
'forgive'
them for that "historic" error. Brainwashed!!
CarlZim8:I
think you were challenged,
you didn't suffer.
panta98:Yes,
from the point
go, because the race relations changed, I was torn away from my
parents,
from the sado-masochistic family horror.
panta98:My
father was "declassified" as "Coloured", with blue eyes, pale white as
snow, and black straight hair, that could not be combed. ...
CarlZim8:You
met the wrong
girlies. The right ones were in Bronx, USA.
Einai2000:You
once told us that you had to hide in the kitchen when someone came to
visit
your parents...
panta98:My
Mother was classified
as a "Bantu" and was sent off to a "Native reserve" in the Transvaal.
Carl,
my Tesla Technology was not yet up-to-date to fly with my "saucer" to
the
Bronx, for a love rendezvous; I left that to my son, Franz Jr.,
who is living near to the Bronx at present.
CarlZim8:I
couldn't be classified
panta98:In
fact, I saw my mother
for the first time, at the age of 10; I could never really identify
with
her. Apartheid had also destroyed her maternal affections, in fact, had
messed up all her love relations.
panta98:Of
course, in the classification scene, I was "non-white", a
"Coloured".
CarlZim8:My
great aunt (Kazakh,
slanted eyes) was arrested as Japanese in San Francisco in 1941.
panta98:Hence,
I was a paradigmatic,
but not a paranoid case for Jung and Freud.
panta98:A
little thing with an "inferiority complex".
Einai2000:Are
you joking, Franz?
CarlZim8:What
would Fanon (a
psychiatrist) have said?
panta98:Not
black enough, not
white enough. Hence, better not born into this world. An outcast, cast
out of "history", out of "reality".
panta98:Excellent!
For future philosophic deliberations. what a lesson! What an Orwellian
experience, from the point go.
panta98:"The
last of my race".
CarlZim8:What
would they have
said if you were a Martian?
panta98:I
doubt if they would
have perceived me at all. Meanwhile I'm a Martian for them; they can't
"see" me anymore. Perhaps, I was all the time already a Martian, only I
did not 'see" me as yet. Know Thyself takes some time.
panta98:Fanon
would have said that I have neither a black face nor a white mask,
neither
a black mask nor a white face. But to say that, the poor guy had
firstly
to graduate in Prof. Coseino's Pandemonium University.
panta98:I'm
not joking, Iris~! At first, like all non-whites, I felt "inferior",
especially
when my white cousins came from Johannesburg at Xmas, and I had
suddenly
to eat in the kitchen, and not to show my face when real "white"
visitors
came to the farm, I began to wonder why, and felt very "bad", somehow
"inferior".
panta98:I
had no freedom of movement; I had to read all over Apartheid signs, be
careful not to go into the wrong toilette, if there was any for blacks,
not mount the wrong train, not enter in a building at the wrong door.
panta98:I
was wondering what is wrong with me, did I jump out of the womb of my
mother
with the wrong foot at first?
panta98:Anybody
still around?
panta98:I
read nobody! Or, was current "1984" in South Africa so horrendous,
taking
the breath away?
Einai2000:Franz,
what do you think was the decisive factor(s) to superate all that you
experienced?
Or the "conditions"? Because if we presuppose that the main relation
within
the Labour Process transmitted through the socialization process to
each
and everybody,...
Einai2000:...then,
the question could be: why some keep stuck in affirming the
system,
while others negate it, and
others even try to superate,
to transcend it?
panta98:A
complex question
indeed, Iris. For the time being, I can only say: Because I was
"negated",
because I became a derivate of the system, I was treated otherwise, not
accepted, due to physical features and inabilities, I began to live a
life
of my own; nobody knew me, did not know what I was doing, how I think.
I became not only a negation within the system, very forcefully, ...
panta98:
... I was accidentally partially even catapulted out of the system,
into
unknown, strange regions, and realities. Others were not so fortunate.
But, I could see everybody, could play their roles.
Einai2000:Yes,
Franz, I understand..
panta98:Of
course, there's
nothing special about this, about us, nonetheless, I never entered into
silly discussions or dangerous actions.
panta98:I
played "coward", understanding everybody; always bearing the brunt of
everything.
panta98:I
had a strong shoulder, could be blamed for anything and everything. I
could
bear it, because I was innocent, or that I could understand my
"crimes",
and thus no psychic damage could result. Surely, I did many excellent
things,
but I also made the most horrendous mistakes in my life. All part of
the
Orwellian life drama, rather tragedy!
Einai2000:...no
economic damage either?
panta98:It
was all part of
the game, Iris. The lessons to learn, even economic ones!
panta98:In
short, I was used
and abused, but exactly, because I allowed it, the criminal did not
know
that I consciously allowed him/her to be a fool, to play the fool with
me.
panta98:Is
the explanation sufficient, Iris? Even nowadays I'm still doing it, not
so?
Einai2000:...Oh
yes, thats true, Franz..and still "responsible" for everything that
goes
wrong in this world.
panta98:Well,
because I never
loved money, to make money, economic damage did not really affect me.
It
did affect those near and dear to me. As stated before, one of those
fatal
mistakes which I made across life.
Einai2000:You
asked me what impressed me ...
Einai2000:That's
exactly what I wanted to comment before, Franz.
panta98:On
the other hand,
consciously perceived abuse has a limit, also a financial limit,
because
I decide when "enough is enough!". The problem is that I'm too
tolerant,
even stupid sometimes, and this becomes destructive in the end.
Einai2000:...you
couldn't be "bought", selling even the last food you had available for
going on with your studies.
panta98:Yes,
at least, that
is true, it can be verified. That's it: I never was on the market, not
for sale, not as a "bonus" nor as a Xmas gift!
panta98:Carl,
still reading??
panta98:More
questions, Iris?
Einai2000:Also
not for changing your mind, your interest, yourself ...
panta98:What
interested me,
money could not buy!
panta98:It
had no prize, no price. What always interested me, exactly that is
being
realized hic et nunc. .... I have excelled myself, to become
recognizable, to anybody that can still "see", that has simuilar life
interests.
For others, I'll always remain "invisible".
Einai2000:Franz,
I was trying to relate a bit more what you commented to "1984",
but it's somehow difficult... could you or Carl help, please.
panta98:Next
time, Iris, we'll
do exactly this in more detail. In
fact, none of my whole family, since 1850, when my greatgrandfather
arrived,
and my great-great-grandmother came down from the apple tree, did
anybody
of my family ever came near to my degree of education and knowledge.
panta98:
Consequently, nobody of my family knows what I do, how I think. Some
think
I'm a damn "communist", others think I'm a lost soul, a "heathen"; they
pray for my salvation.
panta98:Well,
use and abuse, did not stop me in my forward march!
panta98:In
fact, although Apartheid South Africa wanted to murder me, already
pre-pronounced
my death to my family in 1968, yet, a police-man never ever has
arrested
me, or even came near to that. And yet, I was one of the fore-fighters
against Apartheid. it's most radical critique ever launched.
panta98:When
we last visited South Africa, my brother and sister confirmed to Jutta
and me how my assassination was programmed, while I was being expelled
from Germany. While I was still alive, fighting against extradition,
the
BOSS secret agents informed "Oupa" in South Africa that I got killed in
Germany.
CarlZim8:Listening
Einai2000:Critical
to a degree, that even the very same ANC didn't agree with you and your
analysis, if I'm not mistaken.
CarlZim8:ANC
= Illuminati puppets.
panta98:Yes,
Iris. They called
me a "confused Trotskyist intellectual". Sometimes, I smile when we're
being attacked on the Internet or elsewhere, in fact, being
misunderstood,
identified completely inadequately, and, even, in this case, knowing
better,
one is still "polite" as you say, kind and loving. You don't give an
already
fatally wounded victim who attacks you unjustified just like that the
final
death-blow.
panta98:Yes,
the ANC were and still are the best friends of the Illuminati and of
International
Capital in South Africa. They never denied this. Mandela and Mbeki
confirm
this right and left.
CarlZim8:Intrenet
= connectivity.
That's why we win on the Internet.
Einai2000:Yes,
WE win, Carl!
panta98:The
"sad" thing is
how the ANC took all "goodwill" and loving people on a fox-hunting tour.
panta98:Where
this time, the astute fox was exactly the "black man" him/herself.
Einai2000:Sorry,
Franz - you mean Mandela, ... I missed your point
CarlZim8:Please
see the movie
Battle
for Algiers on video about the French-Algerian War in the late
1950's - early '60's -- made by Guido Pontecorvo (Sephardic Jew)
and Yacov Saaidi (Arab Muslim).
panta98:Torn
from their "roots",
their values destroyed, the poor "blacks" were launched across ages
into
a Moloch, which they could not comprehend.
Einai2000:But
why then, could YOU comprehend?
panta98:Only
now, they learn
what capital is, what capital accumulation means, as upcoming
second-grade
black middle class, the ANC are hungry, starved werewolves, reaching
for
"black power", for a capitalist place in the sun, in Sunny South Africa.
panta98:And,
that at a time, when money, capital and profits themselves have become
obsolete already.
CarlZim8:Black
power = White
power.
CarlZim8:When
connectivity is paramount.
panta98:In
fact, within 20
years, measured by global economic standards, they'll have South Africa
on the level of Somalia or Mozambique.
CarlZim8:I
don't think so.
Lots going on in S. Africa.
panta98:
Not because the whites
are gone, because gold and diamonds, even uranium, will be of no value,
but, because Globalism, the new mode of production needs intellectual
labour,
highly specialized, and that South Africa cannot offer anymore.
panta98:South
Africa, the ANC has no chance to improve the 1% participation of Africa
on the world market. At last, the ANC can participate in ransacking the
whole continent, robbing that what European colonialism and American
neocolonialism
had left over, the rotting left-overs.
Einai2000:And
the same applies to Venezuela, this reminds me of the excellent
analysis
of yours in the Postgrado Seminar last week.
CarlZim8:Except,
Franz, Africa,
Asia and Latin America are getting help behind the scenes.
panta98:And,
if by any chance,
any brilliant black computer wizards should be born, then NASA will
recruit
them immediately. Thousands of brilliant Africans are sitting in
strategic
projects in the USA.
Einai2000:...Linking
up the modes of production within the labour process to the respective
mainly used energy source...
panta98:Yes,
Carl. But, "help"
towards what end? What purpose? Again "secret economic aid"? We've had
enough of that for decades already!
CarlZim8:Help
from Germany,
Israel and other countries.
CarlZim8:So
these small countries can survive.
CarlZim8:Small
countries can concentrate resources.
panta98:Any
single giga-multi-national
company could give only its annual profits to Africa, and
it would "survive" on the "bread-line" for a decade.
panta98:That
somehow reflects the true economic relations of global things.
CarlZim8:Agreed,
but Africa
will survive on its own with some help from friends.
panta98:Nowadays,
survival
has become a very sophisticated thing. You yourself, Carl, in the first
article that I ever have read from you, last millennia already, you
stressed
that the Illuminati has to reach for the Moon and Mars to survive.
Otherwise,
they would be stone-dead by 2050.
CarlZim8:The
nature of things
(H. G. Wells)
CarlZim8:They
are already on the Moon and Mars.
CarlZim8:However,
the Illuminati are torn by internal strife.
panta98:Radio-active
crumbs
won't do. Here and there a secret gift of Chernobyl cheese or mad cow
beef
surely won't strengthen the Africans to resist the artificial,
military,
NASA-manufactured AIDS-Virus of Undernourishment, won't stop the
critical,
progressive destruction of their already deficient corporeal immune
defense
system.
CarlZim8:Development
of intellectual
resources, not crumbs.
panta98:
With all due respect
for other views, however, in South Africa, ever since 1652, the white
rulers
were torn asunder by internal strife, they even massacred each other in
two brutal Boer Wars, fighting over a new El Dorado of Gold and
Diamonds,
but, yet, when it came to the control of "Kaffers", "Hotnots",
"Kafferboeties"
and "Coolies", to Apartheid and Orwellian Nazism and Fascism, by
1984,
...
panta98:
... they were already
long ago loyal blood brothers, unified, acting in unison, as One, they
had already launched a galaxy of racist laws, to survive, to protect
the
interests and rights of the global Illuminati -- that's how the
internal
strife of the contemporary Illuminati has to be seen on a global and
galactic
scale.
CarlZim8:Now
on TV, Peter Paul
and Mary are singing South African songs.
CarlZim8:See
the German 1940's movie Uncle Krueger about the Boer War.
CarlZim8:It
shows that the British were the first to introduce concentration camps.
CarlZim8:The
Movie, starring Emil Jannings.
panta98:Carl,
if the minds
of hundreds of millions were genetically already damaged for ages, how
on earth are you going to get them on the level of current
technological
investigation and advancement? It's like placing a cow in the NASA
laboratories
and asking her to get an antidote for the MAD COW disease.
Einai2000:But
the development of intellectual resources needs several conditions, too
- for example nourishment, which a huge perrcentage of African surely
don't
have at their disposal, and aren't meant to get it, Carl. So, who would
be left, e.g., in Africa or the so called "Third World" population?
CarlZim8:The
Moors won the
Spanish Civil War for Franco.
CarlZim8:They
will get nourishment, from friends.
panta98:What's
the sense of
nourishing the fossils of an already extinct dinosaur?
CarlZim8:The
rumors of their
extinction is exaggerated (re: Mark Twain).
panta98:The
"friend" relation
in capitalism has always been a "cash" relation; quid pro quo; a
butter
for fat relation, what quo or quid is left in Africa?
CarlZim8:This
friendship is
based on mutual survival, not capital
CarlZim8:Connectivity,
not capital
panta98:
Soon, probably only
the Sahara sand, to bury the depopulated, the massacred billions of
obsolete
physical labourers in Asia, Africa, America, the Caribbean and Oceania.
At the dawn of capitalism, this Henry VIII did with hundred thousands
of
useless "vagrants and vagabunds" in Europe.
CarlZim8:That
won't happen.
CarlZim8:Khruschev
said "We'll bury you" to the USA..
panta98:The
family only thinks
in the survival of family members. So, it always has been. The
Illuminati
is only interested in the survival of the Illuminati family; and not to
feed "Kaffirs" and "Coolies", as Jeff said, to feed a nuisance,
"cattle",
which cannot even produce obsolete beef anymore.
CarlZim8:Except
the Illuminati
is divided.
CarlZim8:Has
young hornets.
CarlZim8:Silicon
Valley is developing in the Carribean.
CarlZim8:Gotta
leave now. Enjoyed this great chat.
panta98:
Carl, the whole planet
is a huge grave already; in the Patria we are extinct already, like
many
stars, only our death agony still echoes across this planet, is fading
into the oblivion of the Multiverse. Sad to say, Carl, but this is far
nearer to "reality" than a future friendly planet, where everybody
friendly
helps his/her neighbour, loves her/his suffering neighbour.
Einai2000:
I'm
sure the Illuminati do have their young Illuminati-hornets...,
technologically
more advanced than the "parent generation"...
Einai2000:...Ok
Carl, it was a pleasure! See you next Tuesday!
panta98:They,
the Illuminati
clones, will be saved, Iris, on Mars, very far way from this cemetery.
CarlZim8:Franz
and Iris: See
you next Tuesday. Hope Khalid and Steve will also participate
CarlZim8:Gute
Nacht. Buona sera. Labinachti!
panta98:Carl,
I "hope" that
I did not say something "offensive".
panta98:I
only said what I fear, what few want to pronounce.
Einai2000:No,
you didn't Franz!
CarlZim8:You
never say anything
offensive.
panta98:Good-Night,
Carl.
Einai2000:Buenas
Noches, Carl!
panta98:Thanks
for an excellent
participation. It was fun as always.
panta98:Thanks,
Carl.
panta98:You
all will have the manuscript tomorrow.
panta98:Greetings
to Fran from us both.
CarlZim8:Give
our regards to
Jutta, Stella and Simon.
Einai2000:I
saved it here, Franz
panta98:OK!
Bye!!!
CarlZim8:Thanks,
Iris.
CarlZim8:Bye,
folks.
CarlZim8 has left the
room.