PANDEMONIUM  CHAT  NOTES

15TH NOVEMBER, 2000



William Lyne, "OCCULT ETHER PHYSICS:  Tesla's Hidden Space Propulsion System and the Conspiracy to Conceal It", Creatopia Productions,
Second Revised Edition, Third Production, April, 2000, Printed in Canada.

                                   Part  Five

                               FLYING SAUCER OBSERVATIONS

                                            by        Franz J. T. Lee

Do "Flying Saucers" exist?

Horatio, for sure, there are more things built on Earth, and flying around in Heaven, than are dreamt of in your Ideology!

Let us briefly look at this issue. A superstitious, manipulated mind sees exactly that what has been indoctrinated by means of dissocialization into its very "soul". It is not strange that a staunch Christian believer would see angels flying around, or even the Virgin Mary appearing in the clouds. In other words, one sees with one's brain, or with that what is left of it.

As a result of the combined and unequal development of consciousness, one's "consciousness" reflects precisely the superstructural phenomena of our epoch, or the strange mixtures of diverse eras. Very few people live hic et nunc, in the combined and unequal "present"; even far less of them, in the anticipated "future", where today is yesterday's tomorrow. The absolute majority of "mankind" lives in delusive, delúsory archaic, obsolete, absolutist, religious dimensions of "historical" reality, of alienation, of labour. For them "seeing is believing" and "hearing is deceiving"; "believing", "believing in facts", are in, and "thinking", theory,  are out.

What follows now has nothing to do with these worlds of make-believe, "wishful-thinking", science fiction, lies, obeah, voodoo, black magic, "virgin" apparitions, changing wine into blood, ghost-hunting, poltergeist, and the like. Not because it is "incredible", is unbelievable, therefore, it is not true. As far as we are concerned, the following has nothing to do with "historic" truths or lies; it is neither true nor false. Now "work" it out all of, by and for yourselves what this incisively and precisely means; otherwise, please, visit our web sites, and study our Science and Philosophy consciously, conscientiously.

Furthermore, carried away with the titillating and titivating tunes, with the drums of our emancipatory music, dancing to the exotic, erotic  rhythm of our  transcendental philosophy of the "other", of "otherwise", "more" and "furthermore",  just happily give up the "ghost", by forever expelling the "ghost stories" and "fairy tales" from your minds; only then, we all would just  be "great", we would feel "great", would just be "bang on", would we learn, apprehend, comprehend and understand the reality of "Flying Dutchmen" and "Flying Saucers".

In Chapter III, Bill related:

"What I began observing in 1946, and have continued ever since, are man-made
electro-propulsive flying machines which can hover, turn on a dime at high speed without flying apart, and accelerate almost simultaneously to at least 9,000 mph, without readily audible sound or sonic boom.
The ship I observed in 1953, in broad daylight, hovering at about 300 feet distance, about 250 feet above ground level, precessed at a high angle -- about 45 degrees -- and a low rate of about two precessions per second. Soon after I spotted it, it began to move away directly due west, quickly accelerating to about 800 mph, at which time it did two absolutely square turns - a right angle turn straight down and another right angle turn back to level flight -- then accelerated to a point of infinity above the horizon in three seconds."

Obviously, when unexpectedly you see something for the first time, you do not know precisely what you are seeing, then you will observe nothing, except perhaps some ideological chimeras or religious phantasms, however, in this case, Bill knew already exactly what he was seeing; in fact, living in the area where "flying saucers"  are being produced, he has been awaiting the sight of one long ago already, and he also knew the necessary scientific details and particulars. This was not a case of "seeing is believing", it was one of "seeing is knowing".  He continued to relate:

"The ship was constructed as if it were two 50-foot diameter stainless steel woks joined together clamshell fashion. It had concentric 'striations'  -- grooves in its surface which appeared to be about one inch wide all over its surface -- which gave its bottom half the appearance of a giant 'spun-metal' wok, as it precessed with the sun's rays playing on its bright metallic surface. The sun was about ten degrees above the horizon at the time."

Now, how was this ship related to Tesla's technology and energy? Bill continued:

"As it precessed, it gave off a sparkling, 'rainbow-colored' electrical corona, like a metallic surface which was being electrified with high voltage Tesla currents. On the shadow side of the bottom away from the sun, as the ship precessed, there appeared a soft, 'cloudy', infra-red glow, which indicated the possible presence of microwaves, while the general 'rainbow' corona was apparently of high voltage electricity. As the ship began accelerating, the rainbow corona formed a sparkling scintillating trail  behind the ship, which also showed a 'texture' of lines in the trail which appeared to indicate the frequency of the pulses. Since the lines appeared to be 'about' five feet apart at 'about' 200 mph, the frequency could have been 60 cycles per second  -- a frequency which is very low, with the approx. 5-foot-spaced pulses coming at the quarter wavelength. This rough guess is based on what '200 m.p.h.' looked like from our vantage point."

Of course, in Tesla's time, derived from his 1899 Colorado Springs experiments, "microwaves" were still very "small", of only a few inches or feet. Between 1947 and 1953, at night, sleeping outdoor in the back yard,  Bill had observed "whole squadrons of saucers". In his book, he gave further details about these other "sightings", including the best one of them all, made on a moonlit night while soaking in a hot tub; that's why he named this "Event": "Rub-a-Dub-Dub, Seven Folks in a Hot Tub".  Read it for yourself, and enjoy it.

Next time we will continue with "The Ether and 'Ponderable Matter'"

(to be continued)

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Subject:
         Re: CHAT NOTES - PART III -- REVIEWING BILL'S "OCCULT ETHER
         PHYSICS"
     Date:
         Mon, 13 Nov 2000 13:46:05 -0700
     From:
         Bill Lyne <billlyne@earthlink.net>
       To:
         Franz Lee / Jutta Schmitt <franzjutta@cantv.net>
 References:
         1
 
 
 

Dear Franz,
    I like! I like! It is nice to see someone who conveys the full impact of what was said, when it was said,
and by whom!
Bill Lyne.


CARL'S COMMENTS ON THE "CHAT NOTES" ON:
"OCCULT ETHER PHYSICS"

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Subject:
       Delphi Revolution to Emancipation Forum
   Date:
       Wed, 15 Nov 2000 17:43:51 -0500
  From:
       Carl Zimmerman <czfz@earthlink.net>
    To:
       billlyne@earthlink.net, franzjutta@cantv.net
 
 
 

Bill:

I posted the following reply to your  message  in the General
Discussion folder of the Delphui Revolution to Emancipatiob forum.

Carl

___________________________________________________________________________
Bill:

I totally agree with your comment. One reason why I like Franz's
posts is these can be used as credible references. These will appeal to
the audience of  our Crew forums.

I have written material using this format (e.g., www.newrenaissance.com).
Recently, however, I have not used this format in my messages because
these were previously posted on forums outside the Crew. I used a
"Reader's Digest" -type format intended mainly to appeal to an
audience who, based on their posts, would not respond to an academic style.

They seem to prefer posts that will address issues, and invite requests
for documentation.  So far, this has resulted in considerable replies and
further discussion of many of my posts on those forums.

On another point... I discontinued use of my web address to automatically
receive announcements of or replies to  messages posted on Delphi forums
(I was receiving an average of 75 messages daily  mostly  from non-Crew
forums)  So I am asking all visitors to Crew forums to please post
their replies and/or e-mail these to me at czfz@earthlink.net.

Thanks.
Carl

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FRANZJUTTA'S DELPHI FORUMS:
INNOVATIVE METHODS OF REASONING

   General DiscussionStates of Matter


  Scott wrote:

  Hi Carl,

  Maybe you'd like to take a stab at my questions below - or ask a
  Physicist or Chemist who may know more.

  Best Regards, Talk to you soon,

   Scott

  Scott Schneider, President
  Imaginative Technology, Inc. ("Imatech")
  813.926.4447
  http://www.imatech.com

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Scott <Scott@imatech.com>

   Hi Folks,

  It's been a LONG time since I learned this stuff, but I assume rigorous
  analysis of a substance at the Atomic or Molecular Level (maybe
  according  to Bonding/Spatial Distribution, other Parameters) confirms
  whether it's in a Solid, Liquid, Gaseous or Plasmatic State.
  I just wonder about how clear-cut these Boundaries are and how well
  the  rigorous Technical Criteria a Physicist or Chemist would apply
  translate  to  a layperson's understanding.

  For example, one criterion youngsters are taught to identify Liquids is
  that  they take the shape of their Containers.

  What about a Superthick Gel which does not flow, is very difficult to
  compress, etc? Are there any such substances (man-made or in nature)
  which  defy easy categorization?

  Would much appreciate your replies,
 

   Scott Schneider


   From:
      carlzim (PHILOS1)
                                         Sep-21 2:31 pm
    To:
      ALL
 

                                              32.1
  Subject: Re: Fw: LIQUIDS AND SOLIDS
  Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 13:33:02 -0400
  From: Carl Zimmerman <czfz@earthlink.net>
  To: Scott <scott@imatech.com>, billlyne@earthlink.net

  Scott:
  Interesting question. I am posting this message on various affiliated
  forums, and I am asking the visitors to reply to you at scott@imatech.com.
  I have included Bill Lyne: author, engineer, scientist and artist. Nikola Tesla's
  concepts of matter crossed the boundaries of liquids, solids and gases.
  Visit the "Nikola Tesla" websites using his name on your search engine.
  Many will agree that the standards states of matter are our perceptions.
  Regards.

  Carl.



   From:
      carlzim (PHILOS1)
                                         Oct-5 12:30 pm
    To:
      ALL
                                              1 of 1

                                              37.1
  Hi, folks:
  I extend my thanks to Bill Lyne for describing this interesting concept. We
  welcome your comments.
  Carl
  An Ultra-New Technology and Energy Break-Through.

  The investigations have been experimentally verified in the physics
  laboratory.

  There are no analogous works.

  Author: Valery I. Titarenko

  Date of birth: 16 October 1950;

  Place of birth: Berezovka, Odessa region, Ukraine;
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  Education: higher economic;

  Odessa Automotive Technical School (1974);

  Odessa Institute of National Economy (1979);

  The Law of Unity of Universal Forces of the Co-ordinate Standard
  Fourth-Dimensional Space-Substance; that point charges in the Solar
  Gravity-Torsion Constant are integral to the elleptical trajectories and
  to the space-time movements of celestial bodies in free-space.

  The object of this discovery is in the depths of the active yellow star
  Sun, of spectral class G-3, at a distance from Earth of 150 million
  kilometers. The substance of this discovery is the fourth-dimensional
  co-ordinates of a Solar gravity-torsion constant. This discovery is of a
  selective macromolecular system---a Standard. There are no other known
  constants with such features in our Galaxy. In the depths of the Sun, this
  system creates the conditions for exciting the continuous processes of
  nuclear synthesis. The chains of direct, inverse bonds between the
  substance of these fourth-dimensional co-ordinates, excites one-second
  interval molecular pulses. Every molecular formation relates to a
  complex oscillation system, having a characteristic excitation spectrum of

  frequencies, which emit waves of ultra-light velocity, above 7000
  Angstroms, in the spectrum of the orange-red band. Presently, the
  molecular
  clots of pulses of high density and temperature, are constantly reaching
  Earth naturally. The pulse is fixed, as illustrated in fig. 1 The system in
  the depths of the Sun has the same features. It is twisted in a complicated
  manner in its right part, and is outcropped in the single point to the
  left. Issuing from my investigations, as verified by physics laboratory
  experiment, I concluded that by using the co-ordinates of the Solar
  constant, pulses of 109 joules energy are
  emitted naturally from the constant, giving humanity the real possibility
  for unrestricted use of the physical energy of space for
  one's own individual needs.

  The work is registered in the South branch of Ukrainian International
  Academy of Original Ideas, under the code # 00701017, dated 10
  February,1997.

  The priority of expert opinion has been formally registered under code #
  99126872, dated 20 March, 2000, in the Institute of Patent Examination,
  Kiev, Ukraine.

  FIELDS OF APPLICATION

  * In wireless power engineering, the generation of electricity from a
  physical vacuum. Alternative, clean energy, produced in co-ordinates,
  rather than from atomic, gas and other obsolete, archaic fuels, which
  produce environmentally hazardous waste products.

  * The movement of gravitational objects, such as trains, ships and
  submarines.

  * A new generation of torsion flying apparatus.

  * A new technique for producing ultra-high temperatures at critical
  levels.

  * New materials and alloys which have no analogues in present
  technology.

  * Changing the mechanical trajectory of planets and comets.

  * A great number of other fields of application.

  THE DIRECTION OF DEVELOPMENT

  The modern electronics creates the conditions for the practical realization
  of huge possibilities from a physical vacuum. The present level of
  electronics, using special circuit designs, has the possibility of
  operating at subnanosecond time intervals, producing the conditions for
  obtaining a huge power in pulse regime sufficient for exiting the vacuum.
  Vacuum energy is a new kind of power engineering. It represents a new
  class of electronic and torsion vacuum-energy generation. As the power
  engineering of the future, widely using such electronic techniques, it is
  beyond the present fuel-fired generation, being a new type of electronic
  power engineering, using vacuum effects in co-ordinates. In small,
  compact
  energy generators, one can achieve the very high density of energy
  necessary to excite the vacuum to the near-critical state, producing new
  charge-carriers of a macro-level energy, obtained from co-ordinates of the

  Solar gravity-torsion constant. The final product of
  this method of energy production from the real material medium---the
  vacuum---is very desireable, especially from the perspective of
  environmental safety. The energy released from the excitation of
  Vacuum-Substance can also be used
  in a new generation of torsion apparatus for space propulsion. In this
  respect, propulsion is obtained not from material objects having mass, but
  from the excited vacuum itself, when the wave packet containing the
  energy is equal to the energy of vacuum-excitation at the critical level. This
  method of space propulsion uses the energy hidden in matter,
  electronically transformed into the energy of an excited vacuum. This
  space  propulsion method using vacuum-energy is of great significance.

  It is a new principal approach to both the propulsion method and the
  designing of vehicles. The method of propulsion and the engines used
  are absolutely clean from an environmental perspective, since the finished
  product of energy transformation does not contain matter. In essence, the use of
  vacuum-energy from co-ordinates, will influence the development of cold
  nuclear synthesis, giving new possibilities to solve the question of its
  paractical use in compact, high-energy plants. Under conditions of
  ultra-high temperatures, with high levels of energy, water becomes an
  appropriate alternative fuel, which may be used instead of chemical,
  nuclear and gas fuels .

  Based on a contract, the author will perform the work for this method of
  production and use of vacuum-energy, from the co-ordinates of the Solar
  gravity-torsion constant.

  titarenko@mail.od.ua

  The renditon of the text into English : Yura Datsyuk and William
  Lyne Russian

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