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The Genesis Of Terror | ||
It's the alienated post-Godhra Muslim who's morphed into a terror machine | ||
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PREM SHANKAR JHA |
Link to the article: http://www.outlookindia.com/full.asp?fodname=20030908&fname=Cover+Story&sid=11
COMMENTS OF READERS
The Genesis Of Terror
Daily Letters | 2 Sep, 2003
It would be calm, even if a lion kills deer but not when a lion fights with
lion. That is what is happening in India now. Don’t just assume that for the
past so many years India was a calm and harmonious place to live and just only
now it has changed. Only now Hindus are learning to call Spade a Spade. But that
doesn’t mean that I am a supporter of fundamentalism or terrorism. All these
because of the negligence of problem by previous governments. For every reaction
there would be a reaction. So if one section stop reacting and other continues
its action will you accept?
So please don’t say that all these because of Hindus.
MANI P
SACRAMENTO USA
Daily Letters | 2 Sep, 2003
By condoning an act of terrorism Mr.Jha has has again shown or should I say,
confirmed his true cours.Problem with Mr.Jha is that he doesn't even have an
iota of shame left.And what about Vinod Mehta? Atleast,he could show some sense
before publishing such a load of garbage.Mr.Jha,there is no justification for
such act.And in Gujarat,both communities committed atrocities against each
other.Muslims killed hindus too.But,this magazine/English media always tries to
show as if only muslims died.Hindus didn't commit any acts of terrorism in any
part of the world,why should muslims?Mr.Jha should be prosecuted to the fullest
extent of law.
Jai Hind.
VIVEK KUMAR
NEW YORK U.S.A.
Daily Letters | 2 Sep, 2003
Mr. Jha is one of the many poorly educated, highly self centered journalist, who
writes to look professional in the eyes of the western reader. His writing shows
no knowledge of history or the basic facts about the basic tenets of the Islam.
Mr. Jaha please read the Koran, and read the history of the expansion of Islam,
and then go visit Mecca with a copy of Indian Scriptures. You will understand
the ideas behind the Muslim Terrorists throughout the history.
Please be humble and write with some logic and understanding of historical
facts.
Amonst the world religions two stick out for killings and torture; Islam
followed by Christianity. The latter, however, over the course of time have some
what changed their mode of operation. But the true believers still want to
convert whole of humanity to Islam, as per their hol book, by any means.
You have fallen for the typical western mode of blaming the circumstances for
the intrinsic causes. There are nealy a billion muslims in the world, and nearly
teh same number of hindus, and buddhists. If poverty, education, past
repressions were the cause of terror, then why one does not read of nearly equal
numbers of terrorist from the latter religions. It is Christian sociologist's
out look to blame the circumstances rather than admit that teachings of their
religious values is te root cause of terror and exploitations.
I suggest, Mr. Jha, do spend some thought to understand the basic value system
of the muslims and christians, by reading their holy books and the history of
their expansion.
I will be delighted to have correspondance with you on the subject. I sure I
will learn a lot from you.
SUKHBIR MAHAJAN
SACRAMENTO USA
Daily Letters | 1 Sep, 2003
The root cause of the problems such as terrorism and riots by muslims is because
india choose to follow the policies of Gandhi ji, Nehru ji and ignored
Swatantrya Veer Savarkar like genius and nationalist. In 1925 Savarkar predicted
that the separation of Sindh from Bombay province for appeasing Muslims would be
disastrous precedent, would destory Sindh Hindus and would pique the appetite of
Pan-islamists. We know it snow balled into creation of Pakistan. Savarkar also
predicted that once islamic countries are formed out of india on the border of
india, they would bother india forever. Appeasement and pampering of muslims by
congress has brought india to a point from where india will never be able to
return to peace. It sounds to me that we hindus will have live under fear of
islam as long as their god fathers like congress, communists, SP, RJD and Muslim
league and psuedo secular hindu intellectuals support them.
MISS MAYA PRATAP SONKAR
KOHIMA INDIA
Daily Letters | 1 Sep, 2003
I don't see anything wroong in what Mr Jha says . Time and again he has argued
that Muslims , the Muslim youth in particular , are antagonised and by Gujarat
riots. They are disllusioned and they therfore recourse to terrorism. Also , I
can understand that Mr Jha is NOT justifying this respone. He is merely
analysing it and trying to reach the "root cause" in the process. So
of all things, tagging Mr Jha as pro-jehadis is wrong as I see in some of the
responses.
However , his craving for peace prevents Mr Jha from looking further ..looking
beyond Gujarat riots and a incident or two. He invariably stops at pointing out
to the "Sangh parivar propaganda" and doesn't question WHY IS THIS
WORKING FOR THE SANGH AND THE BJP ? When we speak of equality and secularism ,
they become a religion in themselves and therefore any attempt to provide extra
goodies and niceties to any particualr religion will harm the former. And like
it or not, there WILL be a response ! How does that response manifests itself is
a different issue , but basically it creates a crack in society. This happened
during Shah Bano case. This keeps happening when some well-to-do dalits drive in
a car and secure admission in best engineering college chanting "Jai Bhim".
Doesn't this create a wedge in society ? And this is not the fault of political
paries ! Targetting them is the simplest excuse to shed of your responsibility
to create a civilised society. Political parties are only a face of the people
at large, as they should be. The inherent problems is in the lack of clarity in
the social instiutions and the media in this country which choses to take sides.
They are either pro-Congress or pro-BJP or pro-CPM ....... So some belive
whatever Congress says is right..others for BJP .. This is the biggest defeat of
democracy for we should see be supporting issues and ideas and NOT a particualr
party. So Mr Jha , stop for a moment , before you assume that the BJP begins
with the wrong and then find justification for it.
We all know that the Madrassa education provided to Muslims doesn't help them
and the society. But the "secular" media , doesn't speak of it coz BJP
supports it and therfore they assume that it has to be wrong. Same goes for UCC.
And then work overtime to find intellectual arguments to suppport this.
Where is all this leading us ? It has only made us more and more vulnerable !
The point is not that we have faced six blats is Mumbai in recent times , the
point is that we as a society hasn't looked beyond OUR biases to resolve the
core issues. In the final battle we may have to lose more lives , but we have to
be victorious by defeating terrorism at its roots . If that means anatogonising
fundamentailist Muslim and Bajrang Dal youths, so be it !!!
PSUEDO SECULAR
MUMBAI INDIA
Daily Letters | 1 Sep, 2003
RAHUL, Congrats for asking many right questions.
This feedback must be published in print magazine.
But i doubt outlook would publish it. "Outlook" is always on the
"lookout" for the anti-hindu feedback to publish in print media.
Rahul, please keep up your great work. I have observed people are more
interested in our opinion on the net.
MISS MAYA PRATAP SONKAR
KOHIMA INDIA
Daily Letters | 31 Aug, 2003
Well let us see:
Direct Action Day: Hindus' fault
Shah bano case: Hindus' fault
No Uniform Civil Code: Hindus fault
Poverty amongst Muslims: Hindus fault
Fundamentalism amongst Mulsims: Hindus' fault
Fundamentalist madarsa education: Hindus' fault
Well-to-do muslims taking to terrorism: Hindus' fault
Kashmir genocide: Hindus' fault
Attack on Parliament: Hindus' fault
Hindu genocide in Bangladesh: Hindus' fault
Godhra: Hindus' fault
Post Godhra Roits: Of course!! The big stick!!
Akshardham: Hindus' fault
Coimbatore Blasts: Hindus' fault
Bombay Blasts: Hindus' fault
....
....
From the above, it is clear that Hindus are not doing enough for the alleviating
the sufferings of our poor repressed muslim brothers.
RAHUL
MUMBAI INDIA
Daily Letters | 31 Aug, 2003
As with other 'secularists', Jha blames Hindus as usual. Can he explain, why
even after being subjected to genocide in Kashmir, did the Kashmiri Hindus not
turn to terrorism against Muslims? Why don't the Hindus driven out of Bangladesh
resort to bombs? And why do only Muslims take to terrorism like fish to water?
RAHUL
MUMBAI INDIA
Daily Letters | 31 Aug, 2003
The writer of article is justifying the killings of innocents saying that it is
the repercussion of Gujarat riots. I would like to remind Jha that Gujarat riot
happened because of Godhra's hindu massacre. Modi ji's only fault is that he
didn't help muslims to kill hindus as was done by previous congress regime in
baroda and ahmedabad.
Mr Jha could you please answer in your next article “What should hindus do
when crores of hindus were being killed since centuries until now ? Crores of
hindus were converted to islam by the grace of congress and communists. What
should hindus do ? India’s first Education minister Abdul Kalam implemented
psuedo secular education system and you are the product of that education
system. That is why people like you became anti-hindu and anti-national.
Congress and communists regime has erased indian history which were full of
muslim atrocities on hindus. Hindu mothers, sisters and daughters were being
raped by fanatics muslims since ages. You are shameless and spreading
shamelessness in hindus. When you will suffer by muslims your eyes will open.
Muslims took away india’s most fertile land in absence of people like Modi ji
and Togadia ji. Gandhi and Nehru are most admired personalities in Pakistan
after Jinnah. Jha please read news what is going on around the world. Muslims
are killing the innocents everywhere around the world. BJP, RSS, Togadia and
Modi ji are not present everywhere around the world. Why don’t you use your
common sense before writing such type of junky article ?
Please stop hate mongering against hindus. Around 95% of muslims are not getting
modern education and are learning Koran in madaras which teaches killings of non
believers in islam. Please take any non-muslim religious book and visit Mecca
your holy place than your thought will change provided you return alive from
there.
MISS KALAVATI SONKAR
NAGPUR INDIA
Daily Letters | 31 Aug, 2003
I can say that the terrorists are born because of the journalists like Jha. By
continuosly writing against Hindus and blaming Hindus, people like Jha are only
encouraging terrorists to strike again and again.
Even if the terrorists strike again and kill another thousand people, Jha will
write another analysis almost justifying the terrorist act (pretending to
criticise, of course) by blaming Hindus for Muslims alienation and anger.
Perhaps Jha will not rest till all Hindus are killed. Jha may be targetting
Sangh Parivars but the terrorists who are emboldened by Jha's (and his kind of
journalists) "Analysis" are targetting innocent people. Perhaps Jha
wants this to happen.
Mr Jha, will you please show some mercy on innocent civilians and spare them?
Just for your pleasure of Hindu hating, how many more innocent civilians life
you want to put in danger?
Ashwin
Bangalore
ASHWIN
BANGALORE INDIA
Daily Letters | 31 Aug, 2003
Another rubbish article by Mr. Jha. This professional half-wit is trying his
best to start a civil war in India. This fool is hurting the same people he is
trying to save from the impending carnage.
RAJ
TORONTO CANADA
Daily Letters | 31 Aug, 2003
Dear Mr. Reddy,
A very well-put argument, but somewhat naive. What else would you expect? Jh and
the Jethmalani clan had travelled to Kuala Lumpur to testify in the Quattrocchi
trial that commissions are commonplace in Indian defence deals, and that Boford
was mere political vendetta. If Jha could snuggle his way into the current Delhi
dispensation, don't be surprised if his next column chronicles the rise of
Islamic fundamentalismin India.
These scribes are a bunch of dalals - utterly unscrupulous and unethical - but
they do have a way with words.
Best,
Mahesh
MAHESH VAIDYA
COLORADO USA
Daily Letters | 31 Aug, 2003
The esteemed columnist would only be too happy to lay the blame on the Sangh for
everything. The four Congress-ruled decades of poverty, socialism and
"secularism"( not of the real kind, but of a kind practised only in
our unfortunate country ) was the precursor to the majority of the Hindus
running into the waiting arms of the Sangh Parivar. He would do well to remember
that no amount of grief or injustice justifies blowing up innocent people and
children on streets. And justification was exactly what he was giving in his
column, whatever spin he may put on it. We must fight this scourge of terrorism
decisively and collectively even if we have to make politically incorrect
decisions.
NIHAR PANDA
PATCHOGUE USA
Daily Letters | 30 Aug, 2003
I wish to correct myself here. Prem Shankar Jha has not objected to linking
Gujarat riots with Godhra killings: in fact he himself had done so.
However, there is something else that strikes me: no matter who kills who, Jha
sure knows who to blame; his favorite bogeyman the Sangh Parivar.
Look at this irony: a bunch of Muslim terrorists have just bombed 50 people to
death, and who is Jha targetting in his blame-game? Hindus. Just what he has
done when Gujarat flared up too: it's all the Hindus' fault.
Why write a new analysis every time terrorists strike? Just recycle your old
stuff! Because the conclusion the same always anyway: it's all the Hindus'
fault, no?
That's just how ridiculous it gets with these secularists.
RAGHU REDDY
BANGALORE INDIA
Daily Letters | 30 Aug, 2003
So why did Jinnah and gang call for "Direct Action" and kill 5000
people in a single day? Muslim aleination? Why were Kashmiri Pndits killed,
raped and thrown out of their homes? Muslim alienation? Why did terrorists bomb
Coimbatore, a peaceful southern city? Muslim alientation?
Prem Shnkar Jha was one of those shouting at the top of his lungs that the
Gujarat riots which happened THE DAY AFTER godhra genocide, have nothing to do
with the latter, but he is now claiming that Bombay bombings which happened a
YEAR AND AFTER teh Guj riots are definitely because of the latter! Is it too
much to expect some bare minimum consistency and professional ethics from this
man!?
Justify terrorism if that is what you feel compelled to do, but don't give
shoddy, self-serving excuses.
RAGHU REDDY
BANGALORE INDIA
Daily Letters | 30 Aug, 2003
Kudos to Mr Jha for writing the daring piece. In today's murky world of
skulduggery and doublespeak it is a fine example of courageous journalism.
It is the truth and the whole truth without question. I truly wish our leaders
will take notice. And today, not tomorrow.
prompt redressal of grieviances of the muslim community may not only save the
indian muslim community from further alienation but the nation from more
bloodshed.
SHARIQ JAMAL
KANPUR INDIA
Daily Letters | 30 Aug, 2003
Great analysis!Before the Sangh parivar started spreading its web, muslims were
willing and dying to join the national mainstream.The great sufi Shahi Waliullah
tried to achieve this my inviting the King of Afghanistan to a friendly war with
India which the king graciously agreed to.After the 1857 mutiny,muslims,led by
Sir Syed worked for the unity of India by espousing the two nation theory.And
just because some Caliph some thousand miles away was overthrown,muslims of
India ,with compassion for justice eliminated thousands of hindus in Malabar.And
in order to protect the unity of India and its culture, muslims supported the
two nation theory(though with heavy heart).After freedom was won,when fools like
the parsis and other minorities promoted themselves by hardwork and
sincerity,muslims adopted the democratic attitude of demanding everything from
the state.After all they had worked hard for the country and now were constantly
asking for the fruits.And the senseless sangh parivar thought that everyone must
be treated equally in India regardless of religion and caste thus forgetting the
great sacrifices muslims have made.
And so the anger of muslims in burning 57 people alive is completely
justifiable.The numerous riots which muslims have started in Hyderabad and other
places is ok because they are denied justice.Their support for rulers who
demolished thousands of temples is justified.
VINOO RAMAKRISHNAN
NEW JERSEY US
Daily Letters | 30 Aug, 2003
Coming from a muslim background and having read in detail about Islam,including
many translations of the Koran and the volumnous traditons [or "hadeeth",
as the muslims call it], I can strongly argue that the problem lies with the
madarsa culture. The muslims deliebrately choose to send their children to
mosques and madarsas, where moronic mullahs and maulvis teach garbage to muslim
children.
Though many muslims will argue that it's the faulty interpretation of the
religion, for me, that is irrelevant.
The fact is the Islamic religion stifles independent reasoning and critical
thinking skills. Muslims who are sent to Madarsas and taught by the useless
Mullahs and Maulvis are unable to logically discern fact from fiction, use
reason and basically THINK. Once their brains have been rendered useless and the
Islamic ideology of "Obey ALlah and His messenger" is distilled into
his brain, the dumbed out muslim is a sucker for any brianwashing as
"obeying" is all he can do, or else he fears he will go to
"hell".
I still find it amazing that many muslims go to these mullahs,maulvis,imams etc
for guidance.
The combined IQ of all islamic preachers will be less than 20! Is it any wonder
that muslims learning under these idiots end up doing idiotic acts?
The muslims HAVE to send their kids to english medium schools and desist from
sending their kids to madarsas for religious "learning".
The Indian Govt. should ban these madarsas and instead offer to open more
english medium schools teaching science and mathematics to muslims.
The govt. can privatise many govt.institutions and even utilities like power and
even roads and perhaps even railways. Using the funds gained , it can emply
millions of unemployed but educated Hindus to teach English,Maths and Science to
muslims. This will ensure employment of unemployed Hindus, which will prevent
their being brianwashed by Sangh Parivar. Simultaneously,
it will also familiarise muslims kids with hindus and allow them to integarte
with the mainstream.
Such early contact between hindus and muslims will also remove any suspicion
among each other.
But I am sure the obsolete mullahs and maulvis will raise a hue and cry to this.
So the Indian govt.should see to it that mullahs and maulvis can't operate
without a license.Such a license will be given upon COMPULSORY passing of
subjects like Maths, english, science,history and geography, which they will
NEVER pass!
The other way is to send these mullahs and mauvis to Assam or Siachen to fight
with the chinese!
A. M. SAIED
MELBOURNE AUSTRALIA
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