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Comment (holds up to 35 words) :   Organ Donation Controversy 
Comment (second 35 words) :   http://www.myfoxny.com/myfox/pages/ContentDetail?contentId=3827708 
Comment (third 35 words) :   Duped into allowing their 18-year-old son to die so his organs could be taken. 
 
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) :   Fox 5 Investigates: Organ Donation Controversy 
Comment (second 35 words) :   Parents duped into allowing their 18-year-old son to die so his organs could be taken. 
Comment (third 35 words) :   http://www.myfoxny.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=3827708&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1 
 
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) :   To Ashwyn, Live donoring among friends and family is okay. Thats likely why it doesnt appear on the site too much. 
Comment (second 35 words) :   Its the abuse of this practice that is the problem. Those committing crimes in the organ trade are the ones abusing all this knowledge you mention. 
Comment (third 35 words) :   Just as you cant throw the baby out with the bathwater, you cant wash water with a baby. Keep your focus... 
 
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) :   To Andrew: How sure are you that you didnt cause an abominable amount of suffering to your donor? Are you going to take a doctors word? 
Comment (second 35 words) :   A donor is alive when harvested. Your liver came out of a living person with feelings and instincts. I would really appreciate you putting my mind to rest on this issue. 
Comment (third 35 words) :   Andrew, see this from somewhere other than your own perspective. Your liver did not come from the grocery store. Write back and tell us how you are able to sleep at night. 
 
Name (optional) :   Unknown Virus Takes the Life of Three Transplant Patients 
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) :   http://www.medindia.net/news/view_news_main.asp?x=20308 
Comment (second 35 words) :   Laboratory at Columbia University in New York analyzed the tissue samples taken from the dead transplant patients employing the recent gene sequencing methods. The new virus was detected in all the samples from recipients but was absent in the donor’s tis 
Comment (third 35 words) :   “Organ transplant recipients are hit with a variety of drugs to suppress their immune system so that they dont reject the organ thats transplanted. So if youre immunosuppressed, any kind of infection can have devastating consequences, whether its the comm 
 
Name (optional) :   Ashwyn Falkingham 
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Email (optional) :   ozziejcs@gmail.com 
Comment (holds up to 35 words) :   I have noticed your campaign against deceased organ donation, and wondered why despite all this knowledge, there is hardly a mention of live altruistic donation. 
Comment (second 35 words) :   I have a number of friends who have decided to donate altruistically, and have found it to be a wonderfully empowering and rewarding experience. 
Comment (third 35 words) :   The sucess rates are markedly better, and it solves the problems associated with doubt over brain death. 
 
Name (optional) :   Andrew 
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) :   Whats wrong with you people? Im here today because of a liver transplant - Im only 29 years old. 
Comment (second 35 words) :   Would you rather see me dead before I reach 30? As someone who would have died within a week or two without a transplant, a 60-70% chance at living is a gamble worth taking! 
Comment (third 35 words) :   And Im barely taking any anti-rejection meds at all - far from the hell of having AIDS! This website is bullshit. 
 
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) :   To Heather: I sympathize with your situation however I find it disconcerting that you write your letter right after TPs. 
Comment (second 35 words) :   Are you aware that you could have received organs from TPs brother-in-law? You speak of donors like they just rolled over and went to heaven. 
Comment (third 35 words) :   In every illness requiring someone to have organs replaced, its either the recipient who dies or the donor dies. How do you feel about the fact that TPs brother-in-law was murdered for his organs? 
 
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) :   I feel that our souls are a force of energy that is not located in any one given part of the body but rather spread through our entire body. 
Comment (second 35 words) :   I feel that if one transfers an organ through this organ donation to someone else the forever loose a part of their soul to the organ recipient. 
Comment (third 35 words) :   At best we each only get to live around 100 years on earth. I would not want to spend eternity missing a part of my soul. 
 
Name (optional) :   Heather 
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) :   I am 22 years of age in Australia waiting for a double lung transplant, my blood type is common however I am unable to recive because there are not enough people willing to donate. The reason for this is because of people being miss guided and ill inforem 
Comment (second 35 words) :   Take into account how recipiants may feel, we dont like the fact that we have to wait for the right person to die and I dont wish it on anyone but if someone is willing to be a donor and Im lucky enough to recive their organs I will honour them till my la 
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Name (optional) :   TP 
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) :   to be taken off of the respirator and become an organ donor. He never was a donor before the accident and now somehow the hospital convinced (alot of events took place 
Comment (second 35 words) :   like they were being brain-washed) his family to remove his respirator (even though he had pneumonia) and then they proceeded with the horrific harvesting of his organs. 
Comment (third 35 words) :   All of this happened in one day and I was blindsided about it all after the papers were signed. Please let others know that this nightmare does happen. It happened to my family and theirs could be next. 
 
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) :   Thank you so much for your website of informing others about the horrendous procedures being performed, especially the DCD (Donor After Cardiac Death)Unfortunately, this happened to my brother-in-law last Wednesday. 
Comment (second 35 words) :   He had a brain injury and was in ICU. He was starting to open his eyes some and even shed some tears when we talked to him even though doctors said he was hopeless. 
Comment (third 35 words) :   In just four days, he was butchered for his body parts. I left the hospital one day and came back the next and all of a sudden my sister had signed for her husband. 
 
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) :   Here is a link to an article which confirms your point about sick people getting no treatment. http://www.thestar.com/article/218572 
Comment (second 35 words) :   Where is the life extending/enhancing in this scenario? If these patients are being turned down for medications, they certainly arent going to get transplants. 
Comment (third 35 words) :   I found the term eyeballing quite sinister. Sounds like an IDOL show. 
 
Name (optional) :   Norm 
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) :   That is a point that needs clarifying: about Duane Horton. I will think about it for awhile then reply. Thanks. 
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) :   Dont forget about the harvesting of aborted babies. 
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) :   I have a suggestion I hope will help clarify your valuable message to the public. There appears to be a contradiction in your material which other readers have also commented on. 
Comment (second 35 words) :   We arent sure if Duane Horton advocates the harvesting your site is against AS LONG AS THE DONOR IS PAID (my emphasis.) 
Comment (third 35 words) :   There seems to be a gap here. Someone remarked to me that money doesnt kill pain. I see the issue Duane raises but it might be clarified within context of your site. 
 
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) :   Norm, Your point expressed here: Their desperation to improve the health level of their carnal lives appears not the sign of someone who believes in life after death, but rather of someone who lacks spiritual faith. 
Comment (second 35 words) :   Someone desperate to hang on to any sickly state, at any cost, rather than allow their earthly body to perish... is well made. There is a disturbing lack of institutional commitment to this issue. 
Comment (third 35 words) :   It seems to have joined the ranks of the politically in/correct. In other words, its an issue no one wants to touch. Is it because it has cultural aspects? This seems a little too convenient...! 
 
Name (optional) :   cynthia 
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) :   Your third edition is impressive. You are to be congratulated on doing a service to the world. What I like most is that you are not a doctor. Your perspective is 360 degrees. 
Comment (second 35 words) :   Please keep up the good work. Let us know if you need anything... 
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Name (optional) :   Cheryl 
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) :   Important evidence, and certainly controversial. I have learned many Christians & pro-lifers are not opposed to using the heart for transplant One pro-life physician told me to leave it (this discussion) alone 
Comment (second 35 words) :   I have long been impressed with Dr Paul Bryne,(a number of his articles are on my web site) & Dr A Shewmon Ill be adding a link to your web site on my link page www.chninternational.com Many thanks 
Comment (third 35 words) :   Cheryl Eckstein, The Compassionate Healthcare Network (CHN) 
 
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) :   Local citizens in a country are being persecuted for not donating organs. They are being trapped in hospitals and killed anyway. The rationale is that citizens should provide organs for their own people. 
Comment (second 35 words) :   This comes in the wake of rich people buying organs from live donors in poor countries. TIP: If you dont want to die from organ failure then look after your body! 
Comment (third 35 words) :   So what if money bought you the good life? One dies by how one lives. Why should your countryman save you because its immoral to buy foreign organs? Whos the cause of the immorality? 
 
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Email (optional) :   polly9049@optusnet.com.au 
Comment (holds up to 35 words) :   This side of organ donation isnt available freely, which makes the whole process of donation contravene the principles of informed consent. 
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) :   Applause to the previous posters comments 
Comment (second 35 words) :   Applause to Norm 
Comment (third 35 words) :   Applause to Dr David W Evans 
 
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) :   The problem with something like this is that those who do it know it wont last forever. The public will realize whats going on eventually. 
Comment (second 35 words) :   This is the reason why the definition of death keeps moving down a peg. The exploiters in this field want to milk it for all its worth while they can. 
Comment (third 35 words) :   The big news here is that nothing is sacred anymore. Least of all life it seems. All taboos are being chipped away. 
 
Name (optional) :   angela moore 
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) :   With regard to the mothers who report on the horror of their sons mutilation, I want to add that there is another category of vulnerablity to the value judgements of the elite. 
Comment (second 35 words) :   These cases show that the educated and socially responsible are very much in danger. Organ thieves play on this sense of decency to procure organs. 
Comment (third 35 words) :   Therefore, it isnt education that will help us, its awareness. The two are not necessarily the same thing. 
 
Name (optional) :   angela moore 
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) :   The Cape Town 1967 definition of brain death was made in a climate of apartheid where black bodies were cheap and available for experimentation. 
Comment (second 35 words) :   All that was needed was some sort of justification to carve these lesser mortals up. We have reached the same mentality of apartheid in the rest of the world. 
Comment (third 35 words) :   Instead of this kind of thinking disappearing, it has spread to now apply to all groups vulnerable to value judgements by elite opportunists. Being poor, sick and alone is dangerous. So is individual preference. 
 
Name (optional) :   Frank Jackson 
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Email (optional) :   susuzukio2112@tempinbox.com 
Comment (holds up to 35 words) :   Good site. :) 
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Name (optional) :   Theresa 
Address (optional) :   Isla Vista, CA 
Email (optional) :   tr.wall@yahoo.com 
Comment (holds up to 35 words) :   I didnt read far into the guestbook but I noticed immediately that the authors making all the irrelevant negative remarks arent confident enough to sign their names to their posts. Great job on this site. Thank you for the info. 
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Name (optional) :   Keep up the Good work! 
Address (optional) :   Keep up the Good work! 
Email (optional) :   Keep up the Good work! 
Comment (holds up to 35 words) :   Every bit of Norms book is the truth. 
Comment (second 35 words) :   Factual Truth. 
Comment (third 35 words) :   Some people just cant handle the Truth. 
 
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) :   I will never need to steal someone elses organs because I dont swallow the advertizements out there for a fantastic life. My organs will stay healthy because Im not destroying them with booze and cigarettes. 
Comment (second 35 words) :   How about yourself? Dreaming about a second chance? 
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Name (optional) :   This site is bull s**t 
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) :   This site is crap, i think that anyone who believe this shit is an idiot and anyone who write this is pathetic. 
Comment (second 35 words) :   I hope someday you need a transplant so then you can be stuck dying on a list waiting for a liver or lung etc. and do you know why the list will be so long because of dickheads like you spreading all this propaganda and stopping medical science. 
Comment (third 35 words) :   your pathetic 
 
Name (optional) :   angela moore 
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) :   There is NO doctor alive who cares about a patient to the extent that organ recipients believe they do. 
Comment (second 35 words) :   Organ recipients are wandering around in a stupor thinking more about having been chosen by a great and glorious doctor than their new organ. 
Comment (third 35 words) :   Im continually horrified at how the public dreams about being friends with doctors. Is it their only way to rub shoulders with the famous? Recipients on this page dont want to burst that bubble. 
 
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) :   Examples, ionism. 
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Name (optional) :   ionsm 
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) :   This site is the biggest load of tosh I HAVE EVER SEEN. Loads of incorrect info , data and tall tales. 
Comment (second 35 words) :   Thoroughly unpleasant for families dealing with donation of loved ones organs & tissues. They need support not this shite !!! 
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Name (optional) :   norm 
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Email (optional) :   gumflat88@hotmail.com 
Comment (holds up to 35 words) :   No, K. Rybak. You should not give up hope however as a society we might concentrate on preventions and alternative treatments to transplanting. 
Comment (second 35 words) :   This being that obtaining fresh organs is having a seriously corrosive affect not just on our society but in other places due to organ tourism. 
Comment (third 35 words) :   As to the dribble you mentioned it is generally supported in the End Notes. As to the gory side there is not much of it. Thanks for your provocative comments and I wish you well. 
 
Name (optional) :   K. Rybak 
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) :   What a pathetic site! Full of misinformation, dated facts, opinions and sensationalist gory descriptions and language. 20 chapters of unsubstantiated drivel. 
Comment (second 35 words) :   You show no empathy for people suffering with debilitating illnesses. Are you suggesting that they just give up? 
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) :   Rachel: You simply must bear in mind that your husbands transplanted heart came from another human being. 
Comment (second 35 words) :   In between this other human being (who is no longer with us) and your husband, is a doctor who was paid well for your husbands operation. Lots of incentive there! 
Comment (third 35 words) :   Norms concerned about the other human being. You should hope like hell that he or she didnt suffer while being flayed open. Then pray that your husband isnt the recipient of stolen goods. 
 
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) :   After reading your story about the negatives of transplantation, I would like to ask you why you seem so bitter towards transplants? What has really happened to you in order for you to feel this way? My husband had a heart transplant ten years ago, and I 
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Name (optional) :   angela moore 
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) :   Norm, your latest quote for the day is one of the most disturbing I have seen. My God, it is disgusting how the idea and practice of organ donation has degraded. It has simply become part of the status quo without any regard for what it entails. This i 
Comment (second 35 words) :   This is likely the biggest and most disturbing issue confronting us these days. Any complacency here will spell the end of any guarantee of safety in hospitals. It is clear we need to come up with an alternative. 
Comment (third 35 words) :   It is clear we need to come up with an alternative. 
 
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) :   You who post these silly junk messages why do you do this? It isnt commercial spam. 
Comment (second 35 words) :   Why dont you add your considered thoughts? You may have insights that will further our understanding of the topic of organ donation. 
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) :   I find the organ donation idea frightening and dont agree with the way brain death is decided and the speed it is decided at in order to guarantee fresh spare parts from someone still using them. 
Comment (second 35 words) :   I could never live knowing I was using body parts from another person who was dissected alive for me to have them. 
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Name (optional) :   Norm 
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) :   Whole brain death while the body is still alive is claimed by some doctors and neurologists to be a fiction, a medical impossibility. They say too many bodily 
Comment (second 35 words) :   functions in a so called brain dead person are still managed by the brain thus the person is not brain dead. E.G. circulation, body temperature. 
Comment (third 35 words) :   If a person is whole brain dead then apparently there are not enough machines in the world to keep that persons body alive. 
 
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) :   as i read your website i am confused can you clarify, if someones whole brain is dead and its just the machines keeping the body going are they alive or dead?? 
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Name (optional) :   angela moore (2) 
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) :   The justification to prolong and enhance lives has to stop, especially when it is used as a fringe benefit for those who subscribe to, and suffer from the use of questionable, everyday products. 
Comment (second 35 words) :   As a starting point we see that the desecration of human remains is prohibited in all religions. If we scratch this a little further we see that there are specific and practical trickle-down reasons for this which have nothing to do with religion. 
Comment (third 35 words) :   Left unchecked any exploitation will grow and become more callous. These dangers are rife in the organ industry and must be looked at and borne in mind. We have to watch out here for the whitewashing of a crime. 
 
Name (optional) :   angela moore 
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) :   There is a bigger story here than what constitutes brain death. Simply put, what about the unsuspecting patient who is in fact denied medical treatment because certain people want his organs? 
Comment (second 35 words) :   This is the reason for the ethic. It isnt enough to say something is an ethic, leave it at that, and mindlessly follow the rule for the sake of following it. Or worse, study the ethic only in order to modify it to do what one WANTS it to do. One must look 
Comment (third 35 words) :   The ethics of transplants concern the fact that, among the body of donors, a lot of them will be killed (premature death) for their organs. The justification to prolong and enhance lives has to stop, especially when it is used as a fringe benefit for thos 
 
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) :   very interesting 
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Name (optional) :   Alan G. P. 
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) :   Legal brain death is one more card in the house of lies. It stands firm until the whole house of cards fall. 
Comment (second 35 words) :   So let the masses hold onto their beliefs. Let them be programmed, but dont get caught up yourself. 
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Name (optional) :   Barbara 
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) :   Thank you for telling the world about the nasty side. Even more horrifying than the invention of brain death is the lack of horror with which humanity has responded. 
Comment (second 35 words) :   Some very rude pro-transplant people posted to your guestbook earlier, and confirmed everything I already knew about them and their philosophy. 
Comment (third 35 words) :   I recently launced a bioethics website. The Campaign Against Artificial Life is located at www.caal.info. Only one page so far, but more to come. Please visit sometime! 
 
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