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Name (optional) : Vickie
Address (optional) : Indiana/USA
Email (optional) : vickie@noeasytask.com
Comment : I have enjoyed browsing your website and found it very informative. I want to invite you to add your link to Health & Family Resource Guide. Your website would be an asset. Please find the add link form at: http://www.noeasytask.com/addlink.htm
Name (optional) : Polydoros Polydoropoulos
Address (optional) : Sydney, Australia
Email (optional) : polydoros@telstra.com
Comment : Thanks for your informative site. It proves that organ recipients and medical practitioners should think more about quality of life rather than quantity. We have to develop a more philosophical approach rather than a cultural one in this matter. For t
Name (optional) : Graham Harrison
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Comment : I have yet to read your article in full but will do so and respond in more detail. I must say though, that I am extremely concerned as to the way your article has been write to raise controversy for your book. I am a donor father of a 10 year old son
Name (optional) : TFrieson
Address (optional) : 500 22nd St. South Birmingham, AL 35228
Email (optional) : tommy.frieson@ccc.uab.edu
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Name (optional) : Zannie Carter
Address (optional) : 163 Chestnut Ave.
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Comment : I think that people should donate their organs because it can save so many lives. I am going to become an organ donor. Your article is very informative.
Name (optional) : Ms Pascoe
Address (optional) : S.A.
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Comment : I am unsure what has fueled your misinformed opinion of the organ transplant process but the term "harvesting" is both a hurtful and extremely outdated term. As a nurse, I encourage people to consider organ donation as a chance to help someone else live w
Name (optional) : Wesley
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Comment : Ill informed, sensationalist crap that attempts to blend known science, prominent peoples names and work and the authors personal views into a psuedo scientific argument aimed at causing the death of those people waiting for a life saving transplant. You
Name (optional) : Joanne Penton
Address (optional) : Morphett Vale
Email (optional) : Pendaltrie@hotmail.com
Comment : I feel that your book or what is printed on the website is extremely misinformed and totally incorrect, have you spoken to any surgeons or clinical sisters in Australia. If you have you would know that all attempts are made to keep the donor alive, the bo
Name (optional) : Jo
Address (optional) : Australia
Email (optional) : jomooreace@yahoo.com
Comment : I am afraid that I do not know enough about organ transplantation to give a real educated response to this, but I feel that if a brain dead person can give someone with the potential to live a fulfilling life if only for a specific organ, then it should b
Name (optional) : Norm
Address (optional) : Carey Gully, Adelaide
Email (optional) : gumflat88@hotmail.com
Comment : This site may offend some people, but can anyone identify any technical inaccuracies. I have sourced this site from research papers and advice from those who have worked in the harvest and transplant industry.
Name (optional) : jann duthie
Address (optional) : box 307 findon po sa 5023
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Comment : congratulations,i had two children murdered,body parts were involved.iwas injected with fertility drugs,by a doctor involved also at the queen elisabeth hospital.my health care was shut down.i was sent away to die.i nvestigated all connections and uncover
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) : YOU ARE A SCAREMONGER WHO OBVIOUSLY HAS NO INSIGHT INTO THE REALITIES OF BRAIN DEATH AND ORGAN DONATION. YOUR ARTICLE IN THE PAPER DISGUSTS ME.
Comment (second 35 words) : MAYBE YOU SHOULD TAKE THE TIME TO RESEARCH YOUR TOPIC MORE THOROUGHLY INSTEAD OF PUBLISHING FABRICATIONS AND LIES. A PERSON WHO IS BRAIN DEAD IS DEAD, THEY HAVE NO FEAR.
Name (optional) : Sally
Address (optional) : Seaford. S.A.
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) : My first look at what is a very interesting site! As a student- nurse witnessing the "harvesting" of kidneys for donation in 1980, I was disturbed by the lack of dignity and respect, and the absence of any loved ones at her side at the moment of complete
Comment (second 35 words) : I feel it is not right that next-of-kin (or equivalent) cannot be at their loved one's side, to support and grieve at this very delicate, special time.
Name (optional) : Ivan Ouspensky
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) : I have never seen anything like this in my whole life. It turns everything upside down. It is so reasonably described.
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Name (optional) : Joe
Address (optional) : Brooklyn
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) : It's a beautiful thing to see a donor kidney hooked up into a person--it starts producing urine immediately. Perhaps if you saw this happened, or knew someone
Comment (second 35 words) : who was saved in this manner, your web-site would have a different cast. Donate your organs, people--don't let the worms have them!
Name (optional) : Em
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) : Oh god this page is pathetic.. A nurse tells us how horrible is to remove organs which saves many people's lives? Come on, maybe a wrong job for them??
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Name (optional) : Marc, RN
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) : Anesthetic is administered to prevent spinal reflexes, i.e. jerking and increase in heartrate and BP. It's not indicative of higher brain function. Get your facts straight.
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Name (optional) : david bytwerk
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) : What's your problem with organ donation?
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Name (optional) : Valerie (Surgery Nurse)
Address (optional) : Chicago
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) : Mark, RN, says anaesthetic is administered to stop jerking around. This is wrong. Anaesthetic is rarely used because surgeons say the patient is dead and doesn't need it.
Comment (second 35 words) : What is used is a paralyzing drug that stops the body from using most of its muscles. This is what stops it from jumping around. The body is not anaesthetised.
Name (optional) : Karen W
Address (optional) : hospital admin, canada
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) : A surgeon told me over coffee that if he thought too much about the negative consequences of organ donation he would go insane.
Comment (second 35 words) : He knew it was a delusion but it was the only way to operate without becoming disullusioned - leave the whole story to the intellectuals, he said.
Name (optional) : Jack Selzer
Address (optional) : Adelaide
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) : What the hell does the "Ass Kicking Machine" in your links page got to do with the serious work of organ transplanting?
Comment (second 35 words) : There is not any demand for ass kicking machines in Adelaide, Thank you.
Name (optional) : Elaine Bennett
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Email (optional) : dustysky@hotmail.com
Comment (holds up to 35 words) : All the work of this website is overshadowed by The Nurse's Tale - Chapter Seven.
Comment (second 35 words) : When even the professionals are sickened by their work after 15 years you know something is wrong.
Name (optional) : Margaret
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) : I would like a space on my donor card that lists who shouldn't get my organs. There would be just one person and the name of that person is Norm Barber
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Name (optional) : Sandra Benson
Address (optional) : Coordinator
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) : The argument over donor death is distorted by "brain death" as defining death. We all know the person isn't brain dead despite arguing with loved ones that he/she is.
Comment (second 35 words) : We try to avoid mentioning "brain death" and just say the donor is dead. We can admit a lesser term of "mostly dead" and "going fast" but rarely, because this can be a publicity mine field.
Name (optional) : Jack Selzer
Address (optional) : Adelaide
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) : Come to think of it I would like to get hold of an Ass Kicking Machine.
Comment (second 35 words) : I would use it on people who don't agree with me on everything. Cheers.
Name (optional) : Marcus P R
Address (optional) : stepney
Email (optional) : marcuspr@hotmail.com
Comment (holds up to 35 words) : Well, what can i say Norm??? I guess that everyone is entitled to their opinion.! You wrote a letter in response to an article written about Katrina Rehlaender (valentines day article).. (advertiser)
Comment (second 35 words) : I am interested in talking with you in person,to discuss the possibility of including you in a small debate that will be filmed. It would help me immensely in my studies, Video production. ADL TAFE
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) : WHAT AN IGNORANT WANKER YOU ARE...please..ignore this idiots scaremongering and SIGN ON TO SAVE A LIFE
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Name (optional) : Elaine Bennett
Address (optional) : Melbourne, Australia
Email (optional) : dustysky@hotmail.com
Comment (holds up to 35 words) : The above message is wrong. This site is logical and rational. You and I might not like the angle, but the science is spot on.
Comment (second 35 words) : I agree that organ donation is good, but the promotion of it is not scientific. We rely on emotive representation, even mis-representation. Norm Barber is just filling a need for accuracy.
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) : we harvest crops & retrieve organs..at least use correct terminlogy..and what the hell is harvest dismantling?
Comment (second 35 words) : Australian and New Zealand Intensive Care Society criteria for the determination of brain death are freely available www.anzics.com.au main index downloads
Name (optional) : Donor Coordinator
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) : Many intensivists encourage relatives to watch brain stem tests.. Drs & nurses DO NOT check licences & registers...we ask the family but ONLY when the pt is brain dead
Comment (second 35 words) : donors are NEVER transferred to other hospitals..they are too unstable..retrieval teams go to the donor hospital
Name (optional) : Donor Coordinator
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) : pt's are NEVER deprived of O2 & oxygenation is monitored throughout. They are disconnected from the ventilator to let carcbon dioxide levels rise which is a
Comment (second 35 words) : very strong stimulus to breathe in someone with an intact brain stem
Name (optional) : Donor Coordinator
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) : Pts are paralysed with drugs to prevent primative spinal reflex movements..the same ones which cause a cockroach to keep wiggling its legs long after you killed it
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) : "If the patient isn’t dead the coordinator will leave and pressure hospital staff to get an apnoea and brain death test confirmation."
Comment (second 35 words) : THE COORDINATOR ISN'T CALLED BY THE HOSPITAL UNTIL BRAIN DEATH IS CONFIRMED....FACT!!
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) : think about it, talk about it and tell the people who love you your decisions...it's a big decision to make on someone elses behalf
Comment (second 35 words) : the register is only accessed when the next of kin don't know the wishes of the deceased.Doctors & nurses do not have access to the register. Donor Coordinators do
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) : Barber, Norm. FIGHTING CENTRELINK : A SMALL GUIDE TO HELP YOU MAINTAIN YOUR INCOME AND TO DISCIPLINE CENTRELINK EMPLOYEES. [Kensington Park, S. Aust. : Norm Barber, 2000]. 0646389491. Barber, Norm. HOW TO AVOID WORK FOR THE DOLE : A SMALL GUIDE
Comment (second 35 words) : Barber, Norm. THE PERSONAL RESUME OF MR NORM BARBER OF ADELAIDE : I HATE WORK. [Kensington Park, S. Aust. : N. Barber, 2000]. MORE EVIDENCE OF NORMS COMMUNITY MINDED SPIRIT...need I say more
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) : ...so much bullshit..so many inaccuracies..hopefully they'll be able to do brain transplants soon for poor pathetic ill-informed morons like you..researcher..now that's laughable
Comment (second 35 words) : ...another oxygen thief in our midst...groan...i was going to say get a life norm but nah..end it instead..put us out of our misery
Name (optional) : Norm Barber
Address (optional) : Adelaide
Email (optional) : gumflat88@hotmail.com
Comment (holds up to 35 words) : Why hide under anonymity? And why use villification as an argument for your pro-transplant cause? Check the End Notes and see how well sourced this page is.
Comment (second 35 words) : The facts on this web page are based on the experience of medical experts and scientific researchers. They don't hide under anonymity.
Name (optional) : Jade
Address (optional) : USA
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) : rad and kool keep kickin consensus reality disinfo.com
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Name (optional) : inneed
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Email (optional) : deepthuk@yahoo.co.uk
Comment (holds up to 35 words) : Me and my wife are disperate for information for finding a living kidney donor for our 12-year-old daughter. We cannot donate becuae both me and my wife have medical complications. Does anyone know a doctor in the UK that can refer us to clinic abroad? Co
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Name (optional) : Ivan
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Email (optional) : ouspensky100@hotmail.com
Comment (holds up to 35 words) : The above is a fake request used by organ donation promoters to create an atmosphere of increased desperation.
Comment (second 35 words) : In the United Kingdom there is only a short waiting list for kidneys. This powerful industry runs an expensive and pervasive propaganda campaign.
Name (optional) : Just A Drop In
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) : pt's are NEVER deprived of O2 & oxygenation is monitored throughout. They are disconnected from the ventilator to let carcbon dioxide levels rise which is a
Comment (second 35 words) : I may be naive, but don't the two sentences above (left in an earlier message by an organ coordinator) contradict themselves.
Name (optional) : robert amai
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) : i enjoyed reading your book, my question is , is there realy anything wrong for me to donate a kidney in exchange say for a donation to help kids in africa whose parents have died of aids?
Comment (second 35 words) : if i can benefit a recipient , why can i not also nominaye someone to benefit from my actions.
Name (optional) : Norm
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) : Rather than donating you would be indirectly selling. The marketing of organs, like most commodity trading, benefits the rich.
Comment (second 35 words) : Kidneys aren't in short supply in most western, developed countries. Perhaps it would be more profitable to work harder give the earned money to Africans - if you believe you can help them.
Name (optional) : Don Straw
Address (optional) : 26/10 Boundary Rd, Mosman Park. WA 6012
Email (optional) : straw@organdonors.com.au
Comment (holds up to 35 words) : Interesting. DS The Organ Donors Association Inc
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) : Just a Drop In..no there is no contradiction..O2 is diffused into the lungs via a suction catheter whilst Co2 rises because the donor isn't breathing..sequential arterial blood gases are taken to demonstrate rise in CO2..this also shows O2 levels
Comment (second 35 words) : O2 levels or saturations are continiously measured via a probe ...depriving organs of oxygen only makes them less viable to transplant so it is obviously something we avoid at all cost
Name (optional) : CoOrdinator
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) : KIDNEYS ARE IN VERY SHORT SUPPLY IN WESTERN DEVELOPED COUNTRIES at anyone time in Australia there are ~ 1600 people waiting for kidneys..luckily for them they are
Comment (second 35 words) : able to be maintained on dialysis, but not indefinately..those waiting on hearts lungs & livers do not have artificial devices available to maintain them
Name (optional) : Norm
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) : Yes,you are right, coordinator. There is a lengthy waiting list. 1700 in Australia with a maximum annual transplant of 400 kidneys from "brain-dead" donors and under 200 from "living" donors.
Comment (second 35 words) : But there is an untapped, virtually unlimited source of kidneys from completely dead donors whose hearts have stopped. Japan uses these effectively for transplanting though Australia and USA wont't touch them.
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) : these are called non heart beating donors & basically this is where transplantation began so in effect we've gone full circle. There is some work being done in Sydney with NHB donors.NHB donors can successfully be used for kidney
Comment (second 35 words) : donation & perhaps liver but it requires the organs to be cooled ( preserved) in the body by way of large catheters inserted into the groin
Name (optional) : Norm
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) : Coordinator, you said, "...NHB donors can successfully be used for kidney donation..." There are many times more NHB (non heart beating) donors with usable kidneys than patients
Comment (second 35 words) : on the kidney waiting list. The list is an artificial creation because NHB donor kidneys offered are rejected, unlike in Japan where they are successfully used.
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Comment (holds up to 35 words) : Yeah,coordinator, using the CO2 test tries to avoid tissue hypoxia by pre-oxygenating with 100% oxygen for several minutes and by diffusing oxygen down the tracheobronchial system during the apnoea test
Comment (second 35 words) : But the risk involved in apnoea testing is much more to do with the respiratory acidosis it induces - and the profound hypotension which occurs in a proportion of those tested