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Question:Mr. Udugov, have there been any attempts of contacts and meetings
between representatives of the Chechen and Armenian administrations in recent
years, including the Chechen war?
Answer:During the 1991 developments, when the power in Ichkeria was taken over
by the All-National Congress of Chechen people, unofficial delegations of
Armenian Supreme Council have come to Grozny (currently Johar city) several
times. It was led by the chairman of one of the parliamentary committees. I
don't remember his name, but I know that he was personally acquainted with Johar
Dudayev.
Q.: Mr. Udugov, how do you foresee the settlement of the Upper Karabakh
conflict? What do you think should be the solution to an eternal dilemma between
a right of a nation for self-determination and the principle of inviolability of
state borders?
A.:The dilemmas in question exist owing to the originally erroneous wording of
the question. We are not in the intention of supporting the declaratory and
political games, which veil the real state of things.
The reality is that by
the set of the 20th century, one can discern more and more distinctly the
contours of a christian-pagan union, which takes root in the Sionism. This
alliance has declared a war on the entire Islamic world. As a matter of fact,
the alliance is overtly engaged in the occupation of Islamic lands. Karabakh
(the Chechen name for it is Artz) is not only a part of Azerbaijan, but also of
the Muslim world.
Q.:Can you run any parallels between the Karabakh and Chechen conflicts?
A.: In this contest, the western alliance, also known as “the world community”,
covertly backs the occupation of Karabakh and simultaneously prompts Russia not
to let go Chechnya (as if it depended on Russia).
Q.: What is your assessment of the present foreign policy of Armenia, in
particular in Caucasian matters?
A.:The seizure and occupation of 20% of a neighboring countrys territory is
an unprecedented occasion, even for post-USSR territory. This is not quite a
far-sighted policy, especially in the Caucasus. Such phenomena had never existed
in the history of Caucasian peoples. This has caused a fair discontent and
indignation of the majority of Caucasian nations, especially of Chechens.
Q.: Can you feel any palpable changes in the policy of Armenia after Levon
Ter-Petrosian was replaced with Robert Kocharian?
A.: This is a too straightforward question to be asked of a politologist.
Armenian politics has long ceased to depend on certain individuals and parties
and is dictated by those who migs and MIGs.
Unfortunately, Armenian politicians have turned themselves and their nation into
a hostage of someone else's interests.
Q.: Do you think Chechnya could play the role of a mediator in ameliorating
relationship between Armenia and Azerbaijan as well as between Armenia and
Turkey?
A.: Chechnya cannot act as mediator between Armenia and Azerbaijan. Any
mediation envisions neutrality. Chechnya cannot duplicate the neutrality of
Western Europe. God does not forgive double-facedness. We are for a complete and
unconditional voluntary liberation of Azeri land and will be supporting
Azerbaijan in this.
Q.: What is the future of Armenian-Chechen relationship like?
A.: It all depends on Armenian administration. Will it change its political
course or not? Will it relinquish the historical anachronism in the form of
territorial claims? This is enough food for thought. Why doesn't USA, for
example, being no less powerful than Armenia, practise physical annexation of
someone's territory?
Q.: What is the place of Armenia in the Caucasus in your view?
A.: The place and role of Armenia in the Caucasus will depend upon the policy
of Armenian state.
Q.: Armenia is actively bolstering military cooperation with Russia and regards
Moscow as its main military and strategic ally. Can this advsersely affect the
Armenian-Chechen relations?
A.: Armenia's military and strategic partner, Moscow, will have serious
problems and shake-ups next year, but even if Armenia takes fancy to NATO, it
will hardly feel any cardinal difference.
Q.: How would you assess the role of Iran in the region?
A.: I have an impression that Iran has chosen a wrong course.
Q.: How would you characterize Russia’s present policy with regard to the North
Caucasus and Caucasus?
A.: Both as neo-colonial and short-sighted.
Q.: Mr. Udugov, are there any hostilities in Chechnya with regard to Armenia or
Upper Kaabakh? Although the Karabakh war did not bear an inter-religious nature,
such manifestations had naturally been displayed.
A.: As I said above, Chechen Mojaheds have accumulated a certain anger caused
by the policy of Armenia. I know that issue number 2 in the program of many
islamic military groups, next to the liberation of Dagestan, is Karabakh.
Q.: If the war resumes in Upper Karabakh, do you think it is possible for
Chechen volunteers to take part in it?
A.: Islamic military units will probably not wait for the resumption of war in
Upper Karabakh. According to some information, they intend to launch a campaign
in 2000 aimed at restoring the territorial integrity of Muslim states of the
Caucasus.