Entering Christian Chat 1...

 _samoyed_: yvw

 _samoyed_: what's wrong jody?

 aphrodite_3of6: i have more if u want to see

 _samoyed_: sure

 aphrodite_3of6: jenny lynn and my neice ellie

 _samoyed_: they are way sweet.... makes me miss my daughter

 aphrodite_3of6: u know when ellie was born she was 2 lbs 6 oz?

 _samoyed_: whoa

 aphrodite_3of6: cant tell it now can ya

 -jody-angel-: just something athena said to me sammy

 _samoyed_: how old was she in that picture

 _samoyed_: jody on the message board?

 aphrodite_3of6: 3 mos

 -jody-angel-: no

-jody-angel-: in im

 _samoyed_: uh oh

 aphrodite_3of6: this was just last last week or so

 -jody-angel-: yea uh oh

 _samoyed_: pms..... no wait she dont get those anymore

 -jody-angel-: im going

 -jody-angel-: cya

 aphrodite_3of6: bye jody

 _samoyed_: dont let it get to you jody

 aphrodite_3of6: love ya

 -jody-angel-: sure

 redeemed15: hi ya gabby

 _samoyed_: you know how she can get

 redeemed15: hi bac

 aphrodite_3of6: RED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-jody-angel-: you dont understand samo

 chy_na: RED!!!!!!!!

 redeemed15: hey samo

 aphrodite_3of6: jody whats up?

 -jody-angel-: cant say

 _samoyed_: ok  sorry

 redeemed15: chy!!! hugs

 aphrodite_3of6: yes u can

 _samoyed_: hey red hugs

 aphrodite_3of6: im me

 redeemed15: whats wrong jody?

 chy_na: jody whats a matter?

 -jody-angel-: no...i cant

 -jody-angel-: hey chy

 chy_na: hey

aphrodite_3of6: yes..u can

 _samoyed_: well if you need to talk im here

 aphrodite_3of6: im me

 redeemed15: why cant you jody

 aphrodite_3of6: u know ill listen

 _samoyed_: but i dont want to be nosy

 -jody-angel-: nothing..Ill just swallow it like I always do

 aphrodite_3of6: well ur not today

 -jody-angel-: *pushes stuff down*

 _samoyed_: that 's nto good tho.... pushing stuff down

 -jody-angel-: Im a pro at it

 aphrodite_3of6: so am i jody

 _samoyed_: i used to be too

 aphrodite_3of6: and i hate it

 _samoyed_: it gets to be a heavy burden

_samoyed_: way heavy on the shoulder and heart

 -jody-angel-: im getting used it

 chy_na: jody whats wrong?

 _samoyed_: but you shouldn't have to... not wanting to tell you what to do....but what i'm sayilng is right lmao

 -jody-angel-: hey..this is vp

 -jody-angel-: be what you want..and do what you want..yes?

 aphrodite_3of6: we still make friends jody

 -jody-angel-: its not real

 -jody-angel-: it doesnt count

 _samoyed_: yes but we're all humans withfeelings and stuff

 aphrodite_3of6: and care for ppl

 chy_na: sure it counts

 -jody-angel-: pfft

 aphrodite_3of6: we dont know faces but

aphrodite_3of6: we dont know faces but we know ur heart

 redeemed15: it counts , and its real

 eternumpace: Breath, as a libation (or a totem element of taboo rite of consumption - such as the eucharist) syncopates the mind without with the mind within, forestalling a vision which transcends both thusly:   ...There is no right nor wrong...There is only the experience of Harmony. This, my christian brothers and sisters, is the only courage that is demanded of us - to face the mystery of God through the body politic, both the chaos and the being, the luminosity of the imagination....

http://www.oocities.org/rainbowserpent5/WitchesRood1.html

 

 -jody-angel-: nah..its all a game..Im gonna go sew for awhile..I shouldnt type this stuff in the room

 -jody-angel-: sorry

 -jody-angel-: ive let too much out lately..lol

 aphrodite_3of6: jody

 jldrgm1: hello

redeemed15: its what makes us real to each other

 -jody-angel-: its ok gab

 redeemed15: its not a game to me

 redeemed15: hi jl

 _samoyed_: i'm sorry fer what happened tho, jody... and do hope you feel better soon.... try to open up to someone you trust... that can help

 jldrgm1: hi redeemed

 -jody-angel-: trust..lol

 -jody-angel-: blah at trust

 redeemed15: lol

 jldrgm1: oh no, someone got hurt?

 _samoyed_: some people use this chat thing as a game too much

 jldrgm1: a huh

 _samoyed_: not considering other's feelings and stuff

 jldrgm1: i know

 jldrgm1: i know

 _samoyed_: hey jldr dude

 jldrgm1: hey

 -jody-angel-: athena likes hitting me below the belt..Im sure of it

 redeemed15: boy isnt that the truth samo

 -jody-angel-: i almost see her..rubbing her hands tog.

 bacchus90: amen

 _samoyed_: as much as i love athena, i know that fer a fact, jody

 -jody-angel-: yes

 jldrgm1: real people, real feeling

 _samoyed_: she gets off on it fer some reason

 redeemed15: yep

 -jody-angel-: yea..she likes popping bubbles

 redeemed15: alot of ppl get off on hurting others in here

redeemed15: i wonder why that is?

 -jody-angel-: dunno..

 _samoyed_: i think because they have lots of pint up anger inside, red

 kiki27..: feeds their own ego

 jldrgm1: frustrated anger

 kiki27..: makes them feel good

 jldrgm1: nowhere else to lash out

 redeemed15: i would rather lift someone up, rather than tear them down

 jldrgm1: me too

 kiki27..: some people are so miserable, they can't stand others being happy

 eternumpace: hello, redeemed. always good to see you :-)

 bacchus90: dare i mention there are plenty who do that? ie sludge?

 redeemed15: hello etern

 redeemed15: :o}

_samoyed_: i used to do that in chat.... now i trynot to...b ut i know when i do it, it's not what someone else did usually... it's because of my anger and uglystuff inside and i take it out on others

 jldrgm1: unfortunatly true kiki

 redeemed15: hey bacchussssssss

 kiki27..: and words hurt just as bad as physical abuse, if not more

 redeemed15: thats so true kiki

 _samoyed_: yeah physical wounds  do tend to heal much faster

 redeemed15: the book of James has a very good chapter on the tongue

 redeemed15: and how deadly it can be

 redeemed15: it says no man can tame it

 _samoyed_: we can't tame our tongues?

 eternumpace: I shall be back when the doves cry

 bacchus90: redeemed!! huggggggggggggggggggg

 redeemed15: and thats the truth

_samoyed_: peace eternum

 redeemed15: peace eternum

 redeemed15: how are you chy?

 redeemed15: wow the lag

 redeemed15: or is it no one is saying anything

 bacchus90: what are they up to?

 redeemed15: what are who up to bacchus?

 _samoyed_: i'm checking the MB fer a minute here

 bacchus90: is that virtual bedsprings i hear?

 redeemed15: whats the MB?

 _samoyed_: message board

 bacchus90: motherboard? aaaaaaaaaaa hehehe

 

     Entering Pagan Chat 2...

 eternumpace: the stars inside our cosmic tide our dancin to the orgy of our copulating streams

 eternumpace: Hi, DeathAngel

 

 

 

Entering Pagan Chat 2...

 eternumpace: the stars inside our cosmic tide our dancin to the orgy of our copulating streams

 eternumpace: Hi, DeathAngel

 eternumpace: Freud associated musculature in both men and women with the agent of the death instinct. Having noted the similar muscular response to orgasm in both men and women, we then might conclude that orgasm is akin to a kind of death

 eternumpace: and a life from death

 eternumpace: Hence, an agent thereby of our immortality

 eternumpace: give himself a hand

 eternumpace: *sound of one hand clapping

 eternumpace: there is, then, a communion to the sexual function at every echelong of human biometrics

eternumpace: libido is our credo

 eternumpace: man and woman as will and idea presumes a tender innocence to the human being as well as an immortal omniscience

 niyabinghi: Greetings

 eternumpace: oh. there is someone here. Hi :-)

 niyabinghi: how are you

 eternumpace: pretty good. pretty neat

 niyabinghi: so what go's on here

 eternumpace: i was just giving a dissertation on the luminosity of the libido

 niyabinghi: ok

 niyabinghi: am I interupting

 eternumpace: I think I am finished.
..

 niyabinghi: so what are you guys like devil worshipers

 eternumpace: *chuckle. No. I do take that comment very seriously, however.

I believe there might be some truth to that presumption.

 niyabinghi: ok

 niyabinghi: well just passin through

 eternumpace: i mean if that is your instinct. you should trust it obviously. there is truth in everything.

 eternumpace: be well mariner

 niyabinghi: not only are you a devil worshiper but your a philosopher as well

 niyabinghi: don't be ashamed

 niyabinghi: or shy

 niyabinghi: I'm a realist

 eternumpace: good good.

 niyabinghi: Guidance & Love

 velvt.: hi all

 velvt.: who is a devil worshipper?

 eternumpace: hello, velvt.

eternumpace: apparently, i am , velv:-)

 velvt.: oh? wow... and i hadn't figured that out yet

 velvt.: hi bc

 o0-----bc-----0o: heyas velvt

 eternumpace: Well Well, life goes on. gonna past someting for ya vel

 velvt.: death, that is quite the av... i like it

 eternumpace: DeathAngel is indisposed, I believe.

 velvt.: oh well

 o0-----bc-----0o: i will be back

 velvt.: and here i was getting inspired to go for a nude av, too

 velvt.: ok bc

 eternumpace: Freud associated musculature in both men and women with the agent of the death instinct. Having noted the similar muscular response to orgasm in both men and women, we then might conclude that orgasm is akin to a kind of death

 velvt.: like a sneeze is, perhaps

 eternumpace: and life from death
yeah

 eternumpace: Hence, an agent thereby of our immortality

 velvt.: although i think male and female orgasms can be almost the opposite

 eternumpace: there is, then, a communion to the sexual function at every echelong of human biometrics

 velvt.: explosion vs implosion

 eternumpace: man and woman as will and idea presumes a tender innocence to the human being as well as an immortal omniscience

 eternumpace: i hope to learn the difference

 velvt.: ooooooooo... will and idea.... that could very well be tied to chakras

 eternumpace: because i have had both the implosion and the explosion

 velvt.: heart = emotion, head = idea, throat = will... you need all three to function fully

 eternumpace: so i know that both sexes can have similar orgasms. for

instance, women can have outer or clitoral cummings

 eternumpace: lol

 velvt.: but that is the implosion one

 eternumpace: i like that phrase

 eternumpace: can be either

 velvt.: the G spot is the explosion

 eternumpace: ok. i see.

 -doors_chick-: nice in here

 velvt.: glad you like it doors :)

 -doors_chick-: av s are pretty

 eternumpace: come on baby light my fire

 velvt.: pace, which phrase was it you liked?

 -doors_chick-: yea

 velvt.: come on, come on, come on... touch me, babe <grin>

 eternumpace: clitoral cummings or clairvoyant comingulus

-doors_chick-: yea

 -doors_chick-: thats my favorite

 -doors_chick-: Touch Me

 velvt.: it's one of mine

 velvt.: i love the doors

 -doors_chick-: and Soul Kitchen

 -doors_chick-: so do i

 eternumpace: you ladies our answering prayer today

 velvt.: aren't you kind of glad that they couldn't make a comeback?

 velvt.: we are, pace?

 eternumpace: Breath, as a libation (or a totem element of taboo rite of consumption - such as the eucharist) syncopates the mind without with the mind within, forestalling a vision which transcends both thusly:   ...There is no right nor wrong...There is only the experience of Harmony. This, my christian brothers and sisters, is the only courage that is demanded of us - to face the

mystery of God through the body politic, both the chaos and the being, the luminosity of the imagination....

 -doors_chick-: what was that

 eternumpace: in deed

 velvt.: oh, pace... i think that last post is the BEST thing i've ever seen you 'say'

 -doors_chick-: i thought we were talking about Jim MOrrison

 velvt.: lol doors... pace and i can do three topics at once

 eternumpace: thank you, vel. that means a lot coming from you

 -doors_chick-: oh ok

 eternumpace: i love Jim too

 eternumpace: lets stick to jim

 velvt.: ty pace... and i am very serious in what i said, very sincere

 -doors_chick-: God who doesnt

 -doors_chick-: lol

 

 -doors_chick-: hes so great

 velvt.: you captured a deep truth there.... one to use for contemplations

velvt.: you captured a deep truth there.... one to use for contemplations for a long time

 eternumpace: :-)

 -doors_chick-: he was ahead of his time

 eternumpace: here is a question: why do you think he is perceived to be so troubled?

 -doors_chick-: dont know

 eternumpace: does it even matter?

 velvt.: not really ahead of his time... those times were ground breaking... shattering our minds and mores and ways

 -doors_chick-: books say it was the carr accident he saw when he was young

 -doors_chick-: it escalated in ghis head

 velvt.: pace, because he WAS troubled

 -doors_chick-: scared him bad

 eternumpace: hmmm. i'm not entirely convinced. meaning i believe it is a strong tangential episode with which he, like any human being, felt an awful empathy for

velvt.: you know the song ' break on through'?

 eternumpace: i had the same experience when i first saw a World Vision commercial showing starving children in Africa when i was 8

 velvt.: i think that is his life.. living on the edge, breaking through, trying to keep his balance but eventually falling off that narrow line

 velvt.: it has been my life, but i've not pushed it as intensely as he did

 velvt.: i relate strongly to him, though... always have

 velvt.: hi moon

 eternumpace: i also recollect in my mind's eye a strong correlation between tragedy, and esp. the grief process or feeling - to mythology and creativity

 eternumpace: take Jim's fav author, Nietszche for instance, as a case in point

 -doors_chick-: makes sense to me

 -doors_chick-: right

 velvt.: living life on the edge is dangerous, but thrilling... addictive even i think

 -doors_chick-: yea

-doors_chick-: really

 velvt.: so he added another adiction to help him cope but it backfired

 -doors_chick-: bad

 -doors_chick-: why is that guy sting his tongue out

 eternumpace: the mystery  cults of Apollo and dionysus are everywhere repressed in Morrison's society. Hence he exaggerates his own libido in a pseudo-schizo metanoia

 velvt.: exploring my edges is my preoccupation, oftentimes

 velvt.: what does 'metonia' mean?

 -doors_chick-: have no idea

 -doors_chick-: but it sounds good

 velvt.: heheh

 eternumpace: Jung used the term to mean a process of slow gestalt in which one felt a burgeoning union with the Authority of one's life

 velvt.: i'm hoping pace knows

velvt.: ohhhhhhhh... wow.... that's something i experience

 eternumpace: in Jim's case, the Father and Mother archetypes

 velvt.: doors, how old are you?

 velvt.: i'm just curious

 -doors_chick-: he always told journalists they were dead

 -doors_chick-: 43

 eternumpace: therefore, in this sense, Jim Morrison was but a reflection of us all

 -doors_chick-: but they still alive

 velvt.: a pointman, pace :)

 velvt.: the most dangerous position

 eternumpace: confounded by a false panacea of supersition

 velvt.: now wait

 velvt.: how can superstition be a panacea, false or otherwise?

 eternumpace: 4 words , vel: marxist cultural pseudo-metamorphosis

velvt.: oh that makes it clear

 velvt.: NOT

 velvt.: isn't that three words?

 -doors_chick-: im sry

 -doors_chick-: friends

 -doors_chick-: an old friend IMd me

 velvt.: hi chris

 -doors_chick-: we chat later ok

 chris_young36: what is this room about

 velvt.: well, it's kind of an eclectic gathering place

 eternumpace: ok, chick

 velvt.: main focus is non traditional spiritual ways, but that covers a lot of territory

 eternumpace: it is interesting to note, and I speak heartfully, that christianity has cuch a potent panacea of descriptions for the human psyche and yet we remain so so surprised by the proflegate presumption of some its members, of

whom I count every human being.

 velvt.: pagans tend to be very, very earthy

 velvt.: every human being is a christian?

 velvt.: hi anuvys

 anuvys: hello

 eternumpace: i was trying to be ironical

 velvt.: i get lost in your words, pace

 anuvys: we aint all xtians lol

 eternumpace: well here is where i might disagree

 eternumpace: one needn't believe that christ was the sole incarnation of the only God to be christian

 velvt.: oh?

 eternumpace: one need only believe in the body, in regenerate energy

 eternumpace: passed all the bs , that is

 velvt.: well, MOST christians would disagree with you, pace... but not all

eternumpace: well they would be being politica, not realistic

 velvt.: a close friend of mine, who happens to be a minister, says i'm christian, just not A Christian

 velvt.: i live the teachings, i don't buy the dogma

 eternumpace: To me, any belief "system" which is significantly disparate from science is a cult

 velvt.: ack... another definition of cult!

 eternumpace: i by science i include common sense

 velvt.: there are too many already

 eternumpace: well the definition of cult, to me, differs after say 3000 BC

 eternumpace: and particularly at the inception of the industrial age

 velvt.: i don't recall 3000 bc, actually

 eternumpace: comes to specific relief around 16th century renaiisance

 _.cerridwen._: mm everyone

 eternumpace: hello :-)

 velvt.: hi cerridwen

_.cerridwen._: mm gypsy

 velvt.: pace, your knowledge base that you draw upon constantly is too broad and deep for me to keep up

 eternumpace: well, it's debatable of course, vel. I dare not belabour the point

 velvt.: hi gypsy

 gypsy2u: mm cerri.....=8-]

 gypsy2u: mm velvt.......been awhile

 velvt.: yep

 eternumpace: another word for science, btw, might be poetry :-)

 gypsy2u: how are you??

 eternumpace: and herein lies , for me, the true act of faith, faith in nature and in the natural instincts

 velvt.: my state of change is pretty stable... if that makes any sense... and that is just how i am LOL

 

 gypsy2u: i lost my mouse, cerri......=8-[

 gypsy2u: as is mine, vel........much to my delight

velvt.: faith, pace? when the proof is all around you, where is the faith?

 velvt.: good for you, gypsy

 _.cerridwen._: awww I don't know if I still have it gypsy. I'll have a look

 gypsy2u: thanx cerri......would be great if you did

 eternumpace: http://www.oocities.org/rainbowserpent5/TheWitchesRood1.html

 eternumpace: oops. drop the the

 _.cerridwen._: can't find it offhand gypsy but I will have a good search later. If not I'll try and make you a new one *s*

 gypsy2u: oooo.......ty ty......want to go to pc 3 and test that with me??

 _.cerridwen._: kk hon lets go

 _.cerridwen._: back soon everyon

 gypsy2u: kkz.....see ya there

 _.cerridwen._: e

 eternumpace: calling doors chick. earth to doors chick. you are neede on

aisle one, baked goods

 velvt.: lol

 eternumpace: hey, that was funny lol

 eternumpace: the doors made me belief i could live in that world again, in the garden

 eternumpace: for that i owe my life

 velvt.: awesome, pace

 eternumpace: but i also go a pretty hard slap in the face when i tried lol

 sweet-fenris: mm everyone

 _.kaizen._: mm sweet

 _.cerridwen._: lol get your tongue out of my ear kai

 _.cerridwen._: I just wanted to drop in and let everyone know that we are having a Beltane promotion on our pagan web shop site

 eternumpace: http://www.oocities.org/rainbowserpent5/WitchesRood1.html

 sweet-fenris: so where is everyone from

-doors_chick-: fla

 _.kaizen._: wbb gypsy

 gypsy2u: thanx kai

 _.cerridwen._: wb gypsy

 _.cerridwen._: basically we are going to offer free postage and packing for all orders made in may. AND if somebody is a member of excite chat they will also get a free pack of incense

 _.cerridwen._: the site is here www.britstonia.co.uk

 _.cerridwen._: wb again gypsy

 gypsy2u: lmaoooo......i feel like a bouncing ball

 eternumpace: mmmm. this is not tv

 _.cerridwen._: *staples gypsy to the floor*

 _.cerridwen._: what's that eturnum?

 _.kaizen._: welcome back again gypsy<makes this into a macro>

 gypsy2u: that url opened in this window........and off i was going

 gypsy2u: lol kai

_.cerridwen._: lol

 gypsy2u: ty ......blessings you 2

 eternumpace: nothing, cerridwen. just thought i was stuck watching commercials again

 _.cerridwen._: lol sorry. I just wanted to let people know. I don't do it often

 eternumpace: but i guess everyones gotta make a living some how

 eternumpace: strange. my first experience of capitalism in a chat room

 gypsy2u: lol.......i have no clue if i have the other one or not.......i have to go look

 eternumpace: not entirely as disheartening i might have imagined

 gypsy2u: ......this is like a comedy of errors

 _.cerridwen._: *s* I'm also trying to get some more interest for the chat program. I think it would be nice if we got some more chatters in here

 eternumpace: i like it lonely

 _.cerridwen._: awwwwww

eternumpace: I prefer isolation to communion

 _.cerridwen._: It's like a pain the the rear end gypsy...lol

 eternumpace: i belief that if one follows the path of the beast, one will find that instead of being truly alone, one will be with all the world

 _.cerridwen._: well, if it fuills up we always have the option to go to one of the other rooms and I would like the choice

 eternumpace: you can't handle the choice!

 _.cerridwen._: lol ok

 eternumpace: are you laughing at me?

 _.cerridwen._: no not at you. I'm laughing in general

 eternumpace: need i cast a spell on you dearie?

 _.cerridwen._: now I'm laughing at you

 _.kaizen._: etern, fyi we provide a huge 700 page website, advert/banner free with thousands of links and resources......the url LK sent over helps fund it all

 _.kaizen._: PMSL AT etern..cast a spell?........BUGGER that WAS funny!.....wets legs

eternumpace: hey, do your thing.

 eternumpace: you knows i am kidding right?

 sweet-fenris: mp everyone

 _.cerridwen._: *s* of course

 eternumpace: lucks a mussy, no sense of humours anymore tish tish

 eternumpace: well kaizen is getting medieval on my ars

 maristeluna: hiiiii guys

 eternumpace: oh i'll get you and yoru lil dog too

 gypsy2u: lol.......well, cerri........i don't see it installed in that folder......this is soooo funny

 _.kaizen._: lol, i never get medieaval, i cant ride!

 gypsy2u: mm mari

 _.cerridwen._: lol I'll have you know that kai is a very up to date witch!!! he even does his newt's eyeballs inthe microwave

 _.kaizen._: lol@lil dog too..

eternumpace: kaizen, if you can remove the sexual undertones to that then we have a deal *looks querilous

 _.cerridwen._: it probably installed over the last one

 _.cerridwen._: mm mariste

 maristeluna: mm gypsy, cerri.....hugglesssss

 _.kaizen._: I used to do them in a microwave, trouble is they explode all over the inssides

 gypsy2u: lol........ok....going to 3 to try it.........brb

 maristeluna: ~gags~

 _.cerridwen._: kk want me to come?

 maristeluna: ~_~

 _.cerridwen._: brb

 eternumpace: here we are. just the 3 of us

 maristeluna: yes......i'nt it cozy?

 maristeluna: cept...imma bout to go to sleep

 maristeluna: sooooooo tired

eternumpace: sleep and dream of me awhile

 maristeluna: whyfor, eh?

 eternumpace: for we are the children of our dreams..of the day and of the night

 maristeluna: mmmmm

 maristeluna: where's that from?

 eternumpace: oh just some pipe smokin girl induced hallucination i had once

 maristeluna: omg...the five year old fell asleep

 maristeluna: I *gotta* take a nap, now

 maristeluna: hehehe

 eternumpace: tee hee

 maristeluna: I will be around later.......prollyyyyyyawn

 eternumpace: i'm glad everyone in here seems in such good spirits today. for a wihle there i was encountering some right grumps in here

 maristeluna: i know

maristeluna: just wait till later

 maristeluna: they'll be back

 eternumpace: ugh

 maristeluna: ~_~

 eternumpace: will you be my yoko ono?

 _.cerridwen._: back for a bit

 _.kaizen._: i love this room, visit many in this chat and the welcome is always genuine in here

 _.cerridwen._: yeah I love it too kai. I hope we can get more to come and join

 eternumpace: aye, tis a good sort and stumble through these here parts cept for the odd angry mofo lol

 _.kaizen._: eturn, if you get the chance why not drop in around 6pm ESt sundays, the room spends about an hour sending pagan poems, been going on a couple of weeks, its awsome

 eternumpace: well that sounds delightful

 _.cerridwen._: 7.30pm est

_.kaizen._: had some limmerick type poems, and some pagan prayers etc.was great

 eternumpace: 4.30 pst i think

 _.cerridwen._: there's some really talented people about in here

 eternumpace: godess within and without, make a cosmic sphere all about

 _.cerridwen._: yep 4.30 is right

 eternumpace: fire above and below, make the rainbow serpent come and go

 _.kaizen._: thats the sort of stuff!.put you down to read for us next week can i?

 eternumpace: that would be lovely

 _.cerridwen._: there's a few poetry readers here if you want one. saves typing all the text http://www.drl.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/

 eternumpace: oh. gooody. i was needin one of those

 _.cerridwen._: *s*

 _.kaizen._: ---------------------------------------------

 _.kaizen._: .

 _.kaizen._: .

_.kaizen._: .

 _.kaizen._: There once was a witch from Nantucket,

 _.kaizen._: Who mixed chicken spells in a bucket,

 _.kaizen._: When they didnt work, she said with a smirk,

 _.kaizen._: Mayhap next time I'll just pluck it.

 _.kaizen._: .

 _.kaizen._: -Cafe-Poetry-Reader--------------------------

 eternumpace: is that an allegory?

 eternumpace: heehee

 _.kaizen._: limmerick

 eternumpace: ok. i get it.

 _.kaizen._: want to see my Anna Child  poem?

 eternumpace: oh do tell...

 _.kaizen._: ---------------------------------------------

 _.kaizen._: .

_.kaizen._: .

 _.kaizen._: Anna Child

 _.kaizen._: .

 _.kaizen._: by Kaizen

 _.kaizen._: .

 _.kaizen._: .

 _.kaizen._: By the moon's gentle light, in the depths of the night,

 _.kaizen._: THe Witches and Wizards do gather.

 _.kaizen._: For, soon to unfold, is a story of old,

 _.kaizen._: The Blessing of Life by the Mother.

 _.kaizen._: .

 _.kaizen._: .

 _.kaizen._: Thrice round the Circle the Priestess does glide,

 _.kaizen._: Her aura shining so brightly,

 _.kaizen._: The Power it is raised, as the Circle is made,

_.kaizen._: Her athame held oh so lightly.

 _.kaizen._: .

 _.kaizen._: .

 _.kaizen._: Each in their turn, the Guardians come,

 _.kaizen._: In answer of our Lady's clear bidding,

 _.kaizen._: To stand between worlds, their colours unfurled,

 _.kaizen._: The Sentinals of the new Wiccaning.

 _.kaizen._: .

 _.kaizen._: .

 _.kaizen._: Yellow, Red, Green and Blue, the candles burn true,

 _.kaizen._: The Inner Voice calling so loudly,

 _.kaizen._: "Place your child upon high, for the time it is nigh"

 _.kaizen._: The Parents step forward oh so proudly.

 _.kaizen._: .

 _.kaizen._: .

_.kaizen._: Goddess we ask, during lifes choresome tasks,

 _.kaizen._: You Bless and Protect little Anna,

 _.kaizen._: You give her Your love, and Your grace from above,

 _.kaizen._: So no evil Shades ever harm her.

 _.kaizen._: .

 _.kaizen._: .

 _.kaizen._: The gentle breeze, the smell of pine, the Goddess answers kindly,

 _.kaizen._: "Go in peace my kin, for I have seen, your Inner Hearts desires",

 _.kaizen._: "Fear not at all for the Anna child, for she is as one of Mine",

 _.kaizen._: "I loved her then, I love her now, and I will love her till the end of time",

 _.kaizen._: "From this day hence, and evermore, if ever she should tary",

 _.kaizen._: "She will know, where ever she may go, My strength she will always carry"

 _.kaizen._: .

 _.kaizen._: .

 _.kaizen._: end

_.kaizen._: -Cafe-Poetry-Reader--------------------------

 eternumpace: ooh. wow. that's pretty good.

 _.kaizen._: I wrote that a few weeks ago, specially for the first pagan poetry event, hope you like it

 _.cerridwen._: yay!!!!!!

 eternumpace: i think, don't quote me on this, but i think that Anna is akin to the akkadian word for heaven

 eternumpace: at least, i have always thought as much

 _.kaizen._: I want to do 3, a wiccanning, a handfastening and a requium......all revolving around AnnaChild.the three main rituals in a pagan life..

 eternumpace: oh. yeah. do it. that would be a wonderful canon of pagan comosgeny

 _.kaizen._: Really?.if it is, then thats pure coincidence, but a nice one.ty

 _.cerridwen._: AnnabelAnnabellaHebrewGracefully beautiful

 _.cerridwen._: that's all I kjnew about the name

 _.cerridwen._: I'm going to have to go I'm afraid. see you all later

 _.cerridwen._: mp and Beltane Blessings

_.kaizen._: see ya hun<waves>, stay in the shallow end ok?

 gypsy2u: be well, cerri

 eternumpace: Good night, Anna / whilst dreams of none refelction play / to death in christos mourning veil, what sounds alight from yesteryore to play the deadly game once more. once more again. this time again. Good night Anna.

 eternumpace: bye!

 eternumpace: she came. was here. and then she went

 _.kaizen._: if ya dont appear next sunday i wil lbe so upset!.......

 eternumpace: i wouldn't want to upset you

 _.kaizen._: so will all the others, it was really an amazing time.20+ peeps all just reading and chatting and discussing paganism, even redeemed dropped in and was impressed!

 eternumpace: haha. that's cool. hey, you know. you should make an av where your hair stands up while yer hand is on the glowing ball

 _.kaizen._: lolol..excellent idea!..I@ll get LK to have a go, shes the av maker

here..this one was a present from rgon

 eternumpace: its a good'un

 _.kaizen._: mm melc<waves>, welcome to pagan chat

 melcc145: hi

 melcc145: am I interupting?

 _.kaizen._: not at all Mel, pull and a chair and join in!

 melcc145: thanks. :)

 melcc145: Its just usually when a person joins a room and it gets totally silent that means they are interupting lol

 _.kaizen._: so, are you a pagan, or just dropping by to see what we are like?

 melcc145: I'm pagan

 _.kaizen._: excellent.welcome home then!

 melcc145: mostly I am bored and looking for something to do before work.

 melcc145: thank you :)

 eternumpace: there was an av in here a while back that would have kept you

slap happy i can testify to that

 _.kaizen._: lol...mostly i wake up before work with enough time for a ciggy a coffee and a "splash n dash"

 eternumpace: oh what a busy life we lead, when first we practice to succeed

 melcc145: I dont work till 4 pm. so I have about 3 hours to do something with. normally I stay up till 4 or 6 am the night before but I was really tired last night.

 melcc145: lol. mine is plenty busy enough. have to admit. I have thing I SHOULD be doing lol

 eternumpace: what wore you out, if i may ask?

 melcc145: the 4 hours of sleep or less from the night before lol

 melcc145: well and the fact that I had a bad day at work.

 eternumpace: eat well and get enough sleep. doctors orders

 melcc145: hehe. I eat alot. too much. least I think so.

 _.kaizen._: i was so late last night, had to wind the wrist a bit to catch up, got stopped by the

police for putting my knee down going around a corner...they said it was "driving without due care and attention"

 eternumpace: bust a gut

 melcc145: well that must have sucked

 _.kaizen._: I pointed out doing 70mph into the bend, apexing it, and putting the knee down took a lot of care and attention.lol

 eternumpace: i like watching motorcycles speed

 melcc145: I've only been on a motorcycle once. they kind of scare me.

 _.kaizen._: wasnt speeding..it was a 70 stretch of road

 _.kaizen._: i ride evey day, and ythey STILL scare me!.lol

 eternumpace: vvvvvvvvvvvvvrrrrrRRRRrOOOOOOOMMMMMMmmmmmm

 melcc145: lol

 eternumpace: yeah, i was on the back of a kawasaki ninja type deally and it scared the shite right out of me

 _.kaizen._: remember buying this one..i rode the first 4 miles on the back wheel, just couldnt get

the front down.lol

 melcc145: ewwww. scarey

 _.kaizen._: wanna pop a wheelie?...just sneeze at the lights.lol

 eternumpace: when you said "wind the wrist" i thought you were using a euphamizsm for an entirely different acitivity

 melcc145: I dont like vehicles much. most drivers dont know how to drive right. no offence.

 _.kaizen._: lolol.....its mine!!.I'll wash it as fast as i want!

 melcc145: too many car crashes in my family

 melcc145: lol eternum

 _.kaizen._: welcome back again gypsy

 _.kaizen._: ^^^macro

 melcc145: hello gypsy

 gypsy2u: it's still not working right kai...........i uninstalled it and then deleted it........going to d/l it again and see it that will do it

 eternumpace: she and her roving band of carnies

 _.kaizen._: looked ok in the other room, apart from the first line

 gypsy2u: it leaves out .....perhaps 6 or 7 lines from the top

 _.kaizen._: if you cant get it, drop by the poetry cafe, and see what other readers are available, or i will next time i am roving

 gypsy2u: i adjusted the text in notepad and that didn't help

 eternumpace: i have things i should be doing as well come to think. not terribly important things but things nonetheless. and where would i be without people to go and places to do?

 melcc145: lol true. I just have things I need to do for my trip

 _.kaizen._: i hate that etern, interferes with my net time!

 eternumpace: time well spent wasted

 melcc145: I spend entirely too much time on the net. but I love it anyway

 gypsy2u: i'll go to the cafe.......see what's there

 _.kaizen._: m y boss freaked when i told him i spend 6 - 6 hours a day on the net.......until i pointed out he spends the same watching tv.....

eternumpace: the last time i planned a trip the brochure said, "the ideal place fo fun and excitement...everybody love earth"

 _.kaizen._: and i get to interact, he gets to listen to his arteries hardening

 _.kaizen._: 5 -6

 eternumpace: hehe

 melcc145: lol. I like that one eternum.

 melcc145: I'm going to new orleans

 eternumpace: in small print it said, "you can check out but you can't ever leave"

 melcc145: umm I spend that much time on the net.

 melcc145: its what I do when I'm not working, with family, loved ones or friends.

 eternumpace: new orleans for cinqu de mai?

 melcc145: lol eternum. thats funny. I think I will have to remember that

 melcc145: huh?

 _.kaizen._: $100 a month here is net related outlay......30 hours a week on the net+weekends, which can be 12 - 14 hours.....

 eternumpace: ok. i messed that one up

 melcc145: lol. no its ok. I do speak french but not very well.

 eternumpace: that was suppose to be spanish!

 _.kaizen._: 5th of May?

 melcc145: lol. well I dont think it worked rofl

 eternumpace: yeah. ok. that's it

 melcc145: hehe. I am leaving on the 6th actually.

 _.kaizen._: mm agga!<waves>

 melcc145: I will be there for prob two weeks

 aggabal: SOME ONE HELP!..IM BEING ATTACKED BY A LAGGG MONSTER

 aggabal: i cant fight it off for much longer

 melcc145: lol agga

 melcc145: reboot. it might help

_.kaizen._: agga, send it to christian chat, theyve been waiting 2000 years for the boss, they dont mind a bit of lag

 aggabal: i tryed like four times :/

 melcc145: roflmao

 aggabal: heheheheh

 aggabal: thats not a half bad idea

 eternumpace: *beats it over the head with the time i saved using technology

 aggabal: this sucks :(

 aggabal: any one wana hear some dead baby jokes ^^

 aggabal: no ...

 _.kaizen._: In super chat all pcs are equal, just some pcs are more equal than others

 melcc145: I bet. though since you are reading these I would assume the lag isnt TOO bad

 aggabal: i think your right

 _.kaizen._: not me thank agga

 aggabal: ya know

eternumpace: that is number one on my list of ways not to make friends and influence people

 aggabal: the lag here isint to bad

 aggabal: but i cant log on todark ages :(

 aggabal: the lags killin me

 aggabal: :(

 melcc145: dark ages?

 aggabal: yea a online roleplaying game *is a nerd*

 melcc145: vampire the dark ages?

 melcc145: *is a nerd too so we are equal*

 gypsy2u: 'falls over laffin'.......this day has been soooooo fun

 aggabal: io.0i

 eternumpace: .oO they are speaking a langauage i didn't even know when I spoke it (kindof like the sixties)

aggabal: >^o^<   <===a fish

 _.kaizen._: Aparently yhe IRS have cloned a vampire, cross bred it with a geologist and now they really can get blood out of a stone

 eternumpace: lol

 aggabal: @.o

 gypsy2u: >  (((^*>

 melcc145: lol

 melcc145: now thats quite an accomplishment

 eternumpace: he who is stoned casts the first sin

 gypsy2u: ><  ))* >

 _.kaizen._: rember.Jacob was knocked from his donkey with a rock, he was not stoned off his ass

 eternumpace: i'm climbing the charts in quick non sequiturs tee hee

 melcc145: rofl

 eternumpace: lol

 _.kaizen._: <has reread the bible lately>

 eternumpace: if you read the bible backwards it says, Satan Rules

 melcc145: I dont like the bible. too many contradictions. I havent read it in years

 gypsy2u: blessings all.........peace and love.....

 eternumpace: catch you on the flipside

 melcc145: bye gypsy

 _.kaizen._: mp gypsy, and gott ago here to, get a couple of hours sleep before work

 melcc145: bye kai

 eternumpace: melcc, most of the contradictions result from very gifted poets trying to write factual history

 eternumpace: i think

 eternumpace: bye, kaizen

 _.kaizen._: Beltaine Blessing to you all........

 eternumpace: be good

 melcc145: mp

 melcc145: eternum. most of the contradictions result from one side saying

something completely different or editing what they think is right.

 eternumpace: well, that too :-)

 melcc145: the bible has been changed and rewritten so many times I have trouble believing anyone can trust it

 eternumpace: it is the Enron of Religious History

 eternumpace: lie to one person and you can get your tongue cut off. lie to billions and you are a God

 melcc145: lol. yep

 melcc145: I long ago came to the conclusion that it was all crap

 eternumpace: well, there is still some good poetry in it. i mean, it's hard to completely erase the wisdom of the Goddess

 melcc145: true though they did a good job of twisting it

 eternumpace: and much of it is based on actual cultural changes; its just there are mixed intents

 eternumpace: oh what a web we weave when first we practice to deceive

 melcc145: some of it is yes. I studied archealogy in university. most of the bible cant be proven by scientific means.

 eternumpace: sortof ironic when you consider that the judeo christian ethic ery likely is the patron of modern internet technology

 melcc145: lol yeah I know. and then they condemn it.

 eternumpace: luddites!

 melcc145: nutso's

 melcc145: lol

 eternumpace: tis true, about scientific proof.

 eternumpace: what has always interested me the most though, is humanity's prediliction towards dogma

 eternumpace: in a very real sense, we like to dupe ourselves

 melcc145: I tend togo with what science can explain in anything that happens. and I dont find paganism and science to be mutually exclusive. Instead science simply tells us what paganism already knows

eternumpace: we are our own worst enemies

 melcc145: yeah but its obvious why humanity does it

 eternumpace: yes. good religion is good science. no argument there at all

 melcc145: simply because they need something to believe in when times get tough

 melcc145: which unfortunately is why mormonism and the rest have grown the way they have.

 eternumpace: well, wilheml reich freud and the like had a pretty good idea i think why humans succumb so frequently to authoratarianism. i am currently studying them

 melcc145: they catch the people at a moment when they are vulnerable. most end up leaving the religion. *has had alot of mormon friends*

 eternumpace: i think, myself , that it relates to how we view sexuality

 eternumpace: and the imagination

 melcc145: thats interesting. do tell

eternumpace: and paganism, yes, has many thousands of years if not all of time in psychosexual expertise

 eternumpace: well, i have summarized my conclusions thus far (in short) on the following web page

 eternumpace: http://www.oocities.org/rainbowserpent5/WitchesRood1.html

 melcc145: all right. *thinks this is going to be very interesting(

 eternumpace: i hope it is

 melcc145: hmm so you believe that it all comes down to the body?

 sexypagannymph: Mm all

 eternumpace: yes. i do.

 melcc145: and how we interpret relatiy in relation

 melcc145: interesting

 melcc145: I personally feel that it all comes down to emotion and fear

 sexypagannymph: how is everyone today?

 eternumpace: it think reality is biological but not necessarily confined to all

we term biology

 melcc145: hello sexypagan. pretty good and you?

 sexypagannymph: slightly hung over

 eternumpace: brb

 melcc145: well it is also environmental and how we react to it eternum

 melcc145: well that sucks sexy

 sexypagannymph: i was drunk last night in here and i hvae come to apologize but none of the ppl who were here last night are here

 melcc145: teach you not to do it next time lol

 sexypagannymph: no it isnt a bad hang over just a slight buzz in my head making it feel light

 sexypagannymph: nah i will do it again i dont really get hangovers hehe

 melcc145: teach you not to do it next time lol

 sexypagannymph: no it isnt a bad hang over just a slight buzz in my head making it feel light

sexypagannymph: nah i will do it again i dont really get hangovers hehe

 sexypagannymph: but no matter how drunk i get i always remember what i did so i guess it is a bit of atrade off

 melcc145: *doesnt get drunk. ever*

 sexypagannymph: no it isnt a bad hang over just a slight buzz in my head making it feel light

 sexypagannymph: nah i will do it again i dont really get hangovers hehe

 sexypagannymph: but no matter how drunk i get i always remember what i did so i guess it is a bit of atrade off

 melcc145: *doesnt get drunk. ever*

 sexypagannymph: hence me comming in here to apologize for being a jack ass

 sweet-fenris: mm everyone

 sexypagannymph: mm Sweet

 melcc145: what did you do?

 sexypagannymph: hence me comming in here to apologize for being a jack ass

sweet-fenris: mm everyone

 sexypagannymph: mm Sweet

 melcc145: what did you do?

 sexypagannymph: how are u today?

 sexypagannymph: just started gigling and calling ppl pooh head and such lol

 sexypagannymph: mm Sweet

 melcc145: what did you do?

 sexypagannymph: how are u today?

 sexypagannymph: just started gigling and calling ppl pooh head and such lol

 sexypagannymph: making bad raunchy jokes the usual

 melcc145: *shrugs8 that isnt that bad

 sexypagannymph: just started gigling and calling ppl pooh head and such lol

 sexypagannymph: making bad raunchy jokes the usual

 melcc145: *shrugs8 that isnt that bad

 melcc145: brb.

 

"It’s spatial intelligence. I think we are all always being spatially intelligent, which is the beauty of spatial intelligence, it’s almost a synonym of mythology in the best sense of the word. That is, we get our sense of ourselves through our movement through space and time and feeling, but specifically through the physical and ideological architecture of the world. And this sense is structured like any story. However, what if there is one main story like one main branch that runs through all time and every person even into the future? Literature and culture resonates with this branch or tree or story and the tree is likewise repeated in part or whole in every leaf of grass so to speak because presumably we and every event is completely involved in the growth of this tree. Consciousness is biological but not necessarily limited to what we term biological for the simple reason that if human terminology is purely a function of neurochemistry then we would be hopelessly bound by our own sense of what consciousness is; it is a mystery. Hence, spatial intelligence is that grand story about how consciousness is written into the fabric of every structure from bridges to works purely of the imagination, to everything. It is about the divinity of humanity and civilization which must then be approached with a reverence for all human invention, especially since it may not be purely human or maybe more than human. There is a pattern to our understanding and even if we cannot understand it, we can recognize or remember it. Spatial intelligence is not a new or old way of knowing, it is a new and old orientation to knowledge that recognizes patterns with a primal thirst for beauty—the divine. It is not so much of the mind as of the soul. It is about the divinity of you when you allow yourself to be intimately involved in the imagination of the universe. It is about human love, human personality, paradox, irony, and humor. It is who we are. It is the language of the gods."

 

_.kaizen._: in case you didnt know, the main website is www.britwitch.com 700 pages of stuff, and between you and i, I wasnt happy LK promoted the business one in here, and didnt know she was going to

eternumpace: well, in afterthought. I don't really mind. I do remember getting all these annying IM's in the old excite just for advertising sake

_.kaizen._: same here......and my icq is 24/7 sex offers<sighs>

 

 

maristeluna: IM me anytime if they are grumpish

maristeluna: I likes to talk, smiles

eternumpace: oh, good. thanks

maristeluna: but I AM gonna make hay while the sun shines.....'n sleep some, lol....

maristeluna: see you later.......smilesssss

eternumpace: bye!

maristeluna: bye.......................

Excite Private Messenger: maristeluna has logged out. (4/30/2002 at 11:06 AM)

 

 

eternumpace: come come my lady to pagan chat.

velvt.: lol, you mind reader, you

eternumpace: how so, butterfly?

velvt.: i was already working on that

eternumpace: oh. OH! OH, mY! Heavens to betsy! Come here , Wilbur. Quick!

eternumpace: so, vel. do tell abou this dan fellow

velvt.: a dream come true, and it's scary

velvt.: too many things that would seem to be huge obstacles for any sort of future with him

eternumpace: hmmm. sounds yummy

eternumpace: brings joy to me heart

velvt.: i'm trying to keep my mind out of it, let the heart lead

velvt.: live in the now with joy, that's my goal

velvt.: fuck the likely future LOL

eternumpace: good. like i heard in a movie. don't look for mr. right. look for mr. righ now

velvt.: yeah

velvt.: it's hard though

eternumpace: have you seen him lately

eternumpace: where's doors chick. she was cool *cringe

velvt.: no, but we chatted quite awhile last night

velvt.: she said she would be in IMs

eternumpace: oh good good. what does he do , again?

velvt.: a plumber

eternumpace: oh :-) .oO think clean thoughts think clean thoughts

velvt.: not with him!

velvt.: he is the best lover i've ever had

eternumpace: i was addressing my self.

velvt.: and it was our first encounter... i shudder to think how it could improve

eternumpace: omg. you are making me wet and i don't even have a vagina

velvt.: lol

eternumpace: *chuckle

velvt.: the most incredible combination of down and dirty, along with kind and caring, that i've ever experienced

eternumpace: btw. do check out the witches rood. i'm quite proud of that, will use in my book

eternumpace: Dan the Man

eternumpace: Santa Claus

velvt.: just SO many obstacles

velvt.: hard to let go of fatalistic thinking

eternumpace: that sounds nerve racking. i don't miss my last paramor

eternumpace: paramour

velvt.: i have struggled so much with life management, independence, since becoming ill... the whole time feeling rage that i have to do it alone

velvt.: if i didn't have to struggle so for every little thing, i could have more resources to work on the larger things, and thus have a richer life

velvt.: well, he just stepped in and took over so many small things... it's scary to think i might get used to that then lose it

eternumpace: mmm

eternumpace: quite the opera you are writing there

velvt.: my life has never been boring

velvt.: meanwhile, i need to go take care of one of the small things that he did for me when he was here... and that will use up today's energy

eternumpace: what's that?

velvt.: shower and headwash

eternumpace: he's a honey

velvt.: very much so

eternumpace: my only advice to you is this: be as narcissistic as you can

velvt.: fun, intelligent, caring and sexy as hell

velvt.: you mean accept what is offered?

velvt.: i'm trying

velvt.: i have a deep need to offer, too... to do something for others

velvt.: it's a hard balance to learn

eternumpace: i mean use the opportunity to see as much of your self as you can. that way, you can't lose

velvt.: he is doing that for me... opening me up to me

eternumpace: that's what i do, and look at me. free as a bird lol

velvt.: or encouraging it, anyway

eternumpace: should i have a talk with this young man?

velvt.: lol

velvt.: why?

eternumpace: *chuckle

eternumpace: make sure his intentions are honourable of course

velvt.: oh, don't you dare!

eternumpace: you don't have a web cam do you?

velvt.: i don't need a papa in the mix LOL

velvt.: not really

velvt.: i have a digital camera that serves as a view capture thing, but i can't get it set up on my system yet

eternumpace: i would love to watch you guys get it on. does that make me  a freak: well. c'est la vie

velvt.: no, it doesn't make you a freak

velvt.: and i'd love to be watched, actually... so if you're a freak, so am i

eternumpace: actually, would you like to know the most intimate secret of my life right now?

velvt.: only if you want to tell

eternumpace: well 2 things: 1) i am slowly realize how much i think in terms of right and wrong and I am stopping that insanity immediately. 2) i reall want to watch some pornography. i mean i have this 15 year old's yearning for some skin flick

velvt.: #1 is GOOD

eternumpace: i think it's my meds. i haven't felt the Urge for years

velvt.: #2 is ok, IMO

velvt.: yep... meds can kill the libido

eternumpace: i woke up last week with this feeling i wanted to screw something. it was so strange i didn't know what it was

velvt.: that's probably a sign of health, dear

eternumpace: i think it means i am healing and being presented with a new resource of psychic energy

velvt.: *nods*

eternumpace: i have also been having some cool dreams. like last night

eternumpace: my whole dream was about cradling a young boy in my arms

velvt.: oh that sounds wonderful!

velvt.: a dream of love

velvt.: giving and receiving

eternumpace: i read the fact that i was slightly aroused in the dream to mean the boy was me, otherwise i'm a pederast

velvt.: no no no

eternumpace: my ylang ylang yang

velvt.: it was a dream of love, giving and receiving, and eros is part of love

eternumpace: yes in deed . that makes sense

velvt.: it wasn't a sex dream, it was a love dream

velvt.: i DO however think you were both the adult and the child in the dream

eternumpace: it is related to something in my life

velvt.: i had a visionary experience almost exactly like that

eternumpace: i met this woman last year. we hit it off. she has two young girls. I found it uncanny how much affection they would spontaneously show me.

eternumpace: tell of visionary experience (as long as does not involve a dog)

velvt.: it doesn't

velvt.: lol

eternumpace: good good hehehe

velvt.: and i will tell you but then i really have to go

velvt.: it was during an extremely intense stage in my therapy

eternumpace: ok doky

velvt.: experiencing, finally, just what i never had in life and the effect it had had on me

velvt.: hitting bottom, psychologically and emotionally

eternumpace: like persephone

velvt.: so at the risk of living a cliche, i started doing some inner child work

velvt.: my cynical self was not amused

velvt.: so... shortly after i started that trip, i was sitting outside in the dark one night, under a beautiful sky

velvt.: very alone, and feeling peaceful for a change

eternumpace: i think of it more as the self that believes all social sentiment is either all right or all wrong. fraid i dont have a word for that. but cynical works too

velvt.: so i tapped into that inner child stuff that had just begun connecting, and wanted to try and give that child love that had been missing

eternumpace: that does sound very peaceful

eternumpace: *.oO my inner child needs a spanking

velvt.: i imagined holding her on my lap... both of us facing outwards, but i 'had her back' you might say... keeping her safe

velvt.: and i started reassuring her

velvt.: my arms lightly but firmly around her, murmuring love and safety into her ear

velvt.: and suddenly i switched my personna... i flipped into being the child, receiving the love

velvt.: soaked it in

velvt.: like a light rain on a desert

velvt.: kind of scared me, which brought me back to being the adult

eternumpace: wow. it just occured to me that you would by a great cybersex operator

velvt.: yep i'm great at that LOL

velvt.: but what made you think of it?

eternumpace: some of the best conversations i have ever had were telephone or cyber sex. lol

velvt.: i think i'm going to get a phone sex call today

velvt.: anyway, want me to finish the tale?

eternumpace: if there is more. i surely would. i was getting quite wrapped up there for a moment

velvt.: and perhaps running away a bit, too :)

velvt.: so... back to the vision

eternumpace: shut up and talk

velvt.: i began to move back and forth between child and adult, until they blurred

eternumpace: hmm like your christ or middle grace

velvt.: kind of a constant stream, giving and receiving simultaneously

velvt.: and then suddenly something was added

eternumpace: warming and feeding each other from above and below, two lovers, to bodies of flesh and light rocking back and forth for what felt like forever, there was nothing else but you

eternumpace: sun and earth *grin

velvt.: i was very aware of being both child and adult, loving... when suddenly i felt arms wrap around me

velvt.: oh a PERFECT description, pace

velvt.: so, these arms, holding the dual me, as i flowed.... and the love pouring into me from that being, a being who 'had my back' while i opened up to love

velvt.: while i experienced the full giving and receiving at once

velvt.: so my giving expanded out to this other being, just as my receiving had already done

eternumpace: kindof tantric too

velvt.: it took an incredible experience to a new level, much richer than i ever expected

velvt.: i am sure it was 'god'

eternumpace: so am i sure

velvt.: one of two experiences , close up and personal, i have had of god

velvt.: and it put me firmly on the path of healing

eternumpace: that is absolutely excellent. the histrionics of your self, a free agent in society self governed and a servant of love in all its forms and processes

velvt.: i think your dream was the same thing

eternumpace: a nexus

velvt.: anyway, i need to go, do the shower thing

velvt.: maybe have a fun phone call :)

eternumpace: i was just going to tell you about the time god went to bed with me but ok

velvt.: we have much we can share, dear :)

eternumpace: its alright. some other time. i don't mind. really

velvt.: and time

velvt.: i hope you understand how tricky it is for me to manage my limited resources of energy

eternumpace: i do. i was kidding.

eternumpace: reminded me of someone i know

velvt.: it isn't me leaving a chat with you, it is me needing to do what i must when i can

eternumpace: don't be silly. i don't mind. i'm just having a reverie

velvt.: enjoy it

eternumpace: plus i have to get back to finishing my opus

velvt.: gl

velvt.: smooch

eternumpace: later gator

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