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dupuysj: sa, I'm not sure what question
you were responding to in that answer, no punctuation problem. And where did
God claim to create evil?
heyteach4: sa.....I'm a Christian however I do not believe that every word in the
Bible is straight from God's lips (does God HAVE lips?) to my ears.
sa-8-10: yes
apparently i amsimple. the fact that the verse hits you so hard tells me you
have never read it.
heyteach4: I get it I get it......sa-8-10=Satan......got it the first time I
say it......
sa-8-10: your
welcom
sa-8-10: not
like me you haven't.
electricalsafety: simple
do you hate french people?
heyteach4: saw.....
dupuysj: So
you believe in the existence of Satan, sa?
mylua: Who's
French?
silverware.: simple is always here in chat, everyday he's here, thats way too
much chatting for him, lmao
pandora007: me
heyteach4: french fries.....mmmmmmmm
pandora007: no
they dont
silverware.: no
pandora007: in
the national enquier
sa-8-10: simple
you want to change the topic from your ignorance of biblical verses to your
ability to beat me at something ..i don't blame you that is what i would do if
i knew as little of the bible as you seem too.
mylua: If that
were true Simple... then most Americans would be dead already!
heyteach4: everything causes cancer, so we might as well do whatever the heck
we want.......in moderation, of course
pandora007: hehe
heyteach4: sa.......did you read my post?
heyteach4: lol Sleuth
_sarani: *pops backin, having forgotten she was here*
eternumpace: sa, a
guy named sleuth confused that method for tenable rhetoric as well LOL
heyteach4: Hey Sarani
_sarani: heyyy teach
_sarani: wb me
eternumpace: he
was no sherlock tee hee
heyteach4: lol etern
dupuysj: sa, who
are you talking to?
eternumpace: i am
one of his audience member, dup
heyteach4: sa????
sa-8-10: i
have had some very interesting debates in here with some real biblical scholars
and we really went after it.. and they did really well and cornered me
sometimes really good. but trust me you don't worry me much.
heyteach4: hi sigh
xx_sigh_xx: hi
heyteach4: Hi Lete
_sarani: o course not sa, no one can "make" you beleive that which
you do not
pandora007: sa,
you a socialogy major?
_sarani: heyyy lete...hugsss
pandora007: well,
anthro maybe
eternumpace: sa.
allow me to speak for a good many chatters when i say how nice it is to have
the company of someone who doen'st confused unrequieted exasperation at one's own
lot in life for sustainable intellectual development
sa-8-10: teach
when you say everything casues cancer you leave it open to disproof by just one
example. death does not casue cancer.
heyteach4: lol sa.......ya got me, there.
sa-8-10: etern
thanks ( i think ) LOL
pandora007: hehe,
pandora007: get
offa him
xx_sigh_xx: hmm
xx_sigh_xx: what argument have i missed the beginnin of
pandora007: so
about those mets, i hear there one and o this season
heyteach4: sigh.......I've been here for 10 minutes and I'm still working on
that one.......
sa-8-10: teach
that is one of the easiest refutation when something is universally claimed you
have only to produce one counterexample.
mylua: Oh I
pray we don't argue here
heyteach4: Pan.....ferget the Mets.......the PADRES are Hot!!
pandora007: 
@heyteach
xx_sigh_xx: sits bak n enjoys my peach icetea :P~
dupuysj: slavery
is a practice, not an organization based on a historical belief that was a lie
_sarani: *listens to the intel lectuals discuss life*
dupuysj: If
that is what you meant by your previous response
heyteach4: sa.......1)it's a good thing I'm not as dumb as I look and 2) a sense
of humor is a good thing :)
mylua: mmmm
that sound good Sigh
sa-8-10: simple
god let death in god is the one that drove adam and eve from the garden wasn't
he. would man have died if he stayed in the garden and eaten from the tree of
life...wasn't that the arguement that god gave for driving adam and eve from
the garden..you sure don't know your
scripture
heyteach4: dup......do white Americans owe black Americans reparations for
slavery?
dupuysj: technicalities,
not in the sense I meant it. There are different meanings of the word
"institution". Then the question changes, name one visible
organization that has existed 2,000 years based on a lie?
heyteach4: sa......yeah, maybe if Adam and Eve had been real live people,
rather than characters in a nice parable........
sa-8-10: no..we
are not responsible for evils of the past we did not do...this is why the idea
of original sin is so weak.
lenasa19: hi
sarani
heyteach4: (puts on bulletproof vest)
lenasa19: Hi
simple.
_sarani: hiii there, lenaa
pandora007: hehe,
gimme one too
dupuysj: the
word institution is now irrelevant. I changed the term to be more clear
mylua: Rude
People Suck
heyteach4: Hi Tempest
dupuysj: visible
organization
sa-8-10: teach
i am argueing from inside. that adam and eve never existed is external to the
arguement.
_sarani: mylua, helloo and welcome
pandora007: objection
your honor
mylua: {{{{sarani}}}}}}}}
tempest27_jd2: hi
room
tempest27_jd2: hi
all
heyteach4: sa......good.
Then I guess you won't be throwing rocks at me, eh?
sa-8-10: teach
i don't think you have to try to convince an atheist that there was no adam and
eve. LOL
heyteach4: lol Pandora!
heyteach4: Objection sustained!!
dupuysj: Or
institution as defined by Webstersin sense 3(a) - an organization having a
social, educational, or religious purpose, as a school, church, hospital,
reformatory, etc.
dupuysj: That
is the sense in which I meant "institution" in my first question.
pandora007: suspended
for jews removing evidence from the scene of the crime
tempest27_jd2: so
what's the subject at hand?
sa-8-10: hey
teach who knows i might say something you can nail me on;;please don't thinki i
wouldn't have nailed you if i got the chance.
heyteach4: dup......slavery served a social purpose
eternumpace: sa,
allow me to ask you a rhetorical question, please: do you agree with the tenets
of existentialism as posed by Jean Paul SArtre in Being and nothingness?
xx_sigh_xx: omg i wasnt payin attention again
pandora007: good
call simple
lenasa19: Hi
Lete.
heyteach4: sa.....again, a sense of humor is a good thing
xx_sigh_xx: was
on fone n i wanted 2 comment on sumthin dammit
sa-8-10: simple
agreed slavery was an institution.
stsr30: 
God
bless America and the rest of the world but especially His people
dupuysj: Slavery
is indeed an institution, but in the sense of a "practice" or
"custom"
pandora007: oh
yeah, i think i read it wrong then
dupuysj: I
just typed the sense I meant it in
xx_sigh_xx: how come americans r only ones who get in trouble 4 slavery
eternumpace: in a
pythagorean sense, any routine can become a slavery
sa-8-10: i
think simple despite his name doesn't think its a building in savannah.
xx_sigh_xx: muslims stole blacks from africa for thousands of years now n
still do
pandora007: but
there is a pecking order of some kind in all beings on this earth, reguadless
to skin tone and so forth
dupuysj: I
made an analogy with the DMV and driving cars?
mylua: that
was sweet stsr
xx_sigh_xx: never hear about that stuff
heyteach4: sigh.....maybe because of the way many Americans treated their
slaves?
heyteach4: sigh.....maybe because of the way many Americans treated their
slaves?
xx_sigh_xx: u think muslims treated em better?
stsr30: t/y
mylua
mylua: smile
dupuysj: I'm
confused then. hehe
xx_sigh_xx: they chained em 2gether women n children n men raped the females
n made em walk thousands of miles of dessert
xx_sigh_xx: desert
xx_sigh_xx: not dessert
sa-8-10: muslims
today have slaves and if they ever run out of them they can easily substitute
their women becaseu they already treat them as property,.
heyteach4: not dessert? where's the chocolate?
mylua: did
someone say dessert?
xx_sigh_xx: they didnt get no treats
heyteach4: lol mylua
xx_sigh_xx: water after 100miles was their dessert
lenasa19: lol
sa-8-10: simple
who is argueing that slavery wasn't an institutin?
eternumpace: this
is where I i sail east looking for a sunset. farewell all.
xx_sigh_xx: slaverys bad in any form
heyteach4: mylua here's dessert and her ears prick up!
xx_sigh_xx: no matter how good u treat a slave
heyteach4: hears
mylua: he he
he... love a bit of sweet... mmmm
xx_sigh_xx: unless its a luvslave n they dont mind bein the luvslave thats
diff
heyteach4: Dang........I can't spell today......very bad for a teacher......
dupuysj: simple,
I admit that slavery is an institution, but in the sense that institution means
"practice", I was using the word "institution" to mean
"organization" whic is another sense of the word.
sa-8-10: oh..well
dup read your history....simple wasn't trying to say it was a good institution
were you simple.
pandora007: i
wanna be one
eternumpace: Good job, squire.
I am thoroughly impressed by your intellectual demeanor.
sa-8-10: thanks see atheists don't eat their children. LOL
eternumpace: well, like you say,
it is all a matter of where one thinks truth is.
eternumpace: Saturn ate his
children
sa-8-10: I thought that was chronos
eternumpace: hmm. maybe they
are related?
sa-8-10: ys they may be greek and roman counterparts
eternumpace: now that's a neat
thought
eternumpace: i am really into
the "diachronic" perception of culture, that know given time has any
monopoly on innovation for the wellspring thereof
sa-8-10: there were many greek and roman counterparts ther was neptune and pluto
both gods of the underworld.
eternumpace: righto
eternumpace: pluto is also kin
to Dionysus ...maybe. i'm not sure
sa-8-10: and then there were all the sungods...born on christmas ...born of
a virgin....died for humanity...ressurrected.....
sa-8-10: christ was just another of the sungods.
eternumpace: special birth
yeah. and medioric rise to nobility
eternumpace: or Moses
sa-8-10: born into poverty yes...
sa-8-10: yes.
eternumpace: well its the
proliteriate fantasy. keeps me going lol
sa-8-10: lets do this in the room so that others can argue but be
introduced to the idea..its not my intention to convince any christian of
atheism just to introduce the ideas as seeds
eternumpace: whoah, nelly. :-)
that's awfully ambitious of you. commendable, really. but isn't that a little
bit of the pot calling the kettle black or the wall trying to white wash the
floor?
eternumpace: xians are the
japanese of the cultural evolution piazza; they took neoplatonism and made it
Better lol
sa-8-10: i don't understand in what way is chritianity anything other than
a mixture of paganism/judism?
eternumpace: well...
eternumpace: like you say, i
suppose it depends on where you are standing. But when Abraham
"divined" his one-God of all theory he was also operating
isomorhically to the cultural history of our world. To wit, order from chaos,
masculine from feminine, individuation from pantheon
eternumpace: i suppose it may
also come down to how one discerns between will and idea or if one discerns the
two at all. Ironically, such depends upon one's psychic disposition what with
our relative affinity for androgyne
eternumpace: and sexual
repression
sa-8-10: i think the contribution of abraham was much greater than
that..its the insinuation that we can know god from satan...i mean lets face it
a guy hears a voice that tells him to kill his own son...how did he know it was
not satans voice ..the context sure suggests it if you are christian
eternumpace: so in a strange
sort of existential irony, you might say that Abraham or Judaism it implicating
mystical tradition with the history and movement of the cosmic gyre (yeats),
was acting on the impulse of a preternatural wil
eternumpace: i see your point.
its a great question. i think you have hit a nail on its head for sure
sa-8-10: you'll have to bear with me as i disasseble your words i'm a lowly
electromagnetics engineer.
eternumpace: preternatural -
evil
sa-8-10: come to the page with em
eternumpace: i believe we are
on the same wavelength anyway
eternumpace: don't bother, sa.
you are preaching to the choir
sa-8-10: yes i agree lets do this on the page.
eternumpace: if you insist. be
my guest. thank you for your uncommon insight into the soul.
Entering
Christian Chat 1...
misserere: well there are times when that happens
peace
peace-joy: sure
_drew154: hello cool and
misserere
coolmomatherbest: yep misse,,,,,now don't u start with me
misserere: hehe cool
tien_bau: zdar.. I think that a good
christian is someone who can take than his neighbour call him a God damn Good christian
ashole
coolmomatherbest: hi drew
peace-joy: what tienbau???explain please
misserere: sounds like Rambler
misserere: hehehe
tien_bau: and why ? because to be a
christian is about how you are inside not certain words you say
peace-joy: i am well aware of that
_drew154: tien,out of the
abundance of the heart the mouth speaks
peace-joy: but your words are important
peace-joy: they show what is inside
misserere: in otherwords walk the walk not talk the
walk
tien_bau: so
whatever you call a friend has nothing to do with you being a good or bad
christian
eternumpace: drew, that's cool. rhymes with
ptolemy
peace-joy: <<<disagrees
zdar23: drew, amen
coolmomatherbest: i would rather hear the f word than the
taking of God's name
misserere: me too cool
misserere: I just cant stand the taking of the
Lords name in vain
zdar23: agreed
peace-joy: misserere....me either
misserere: or blaspheming Jesus
peace-joy: i HATE IT
misserere: or God
_drew154: Cool, those who
use the "F" word have no valuable English vocabulary.
misserere: but the other words I can take better
peace-joy: peole are asked to leave my house if they
curse god
tien_bau: well it is not nice to misuse
God's name I know but it does not make you a better or worse
sinner if you do
misserere: tho im a pk and I never heard
those words so I still dont like them
_drew154: Simple, if
Graham wears a Rolex, Jesus would have done the same.
zdar23: miss, what is a pk?
misserere: preachers kid
zdar23: thank you
_drew154: So what is wrong
with a Rolex?
misserere: well thats true Sleuthy
_drew154: I don't even
wear a watch
peace-joy: Jesus didnt have to know the time
coolmomatherbest: there are degrees of sin,,,,and yes it
is in the Bible,,,,i read it but i can't quote verses
tien_bau: drew only 1 thing.. it is too
expensive LOL
misserere: and when someone like Rambler comes in
under the name of christianity and says the things he does thats taking the
Name of the Lord in vain too
_drew154: I bet you Benny Hinn
wears a Rolex
peace-joy: who is rambler?
_drew154: Does anyone keep the bible sabbath?
eternumpace: please,
lets shrug off this legalism good people
peace-joy: ic
tien_bau: misserere
I do not like the shape Rambler has given his "christianity" but that
is his decision not mine
misserere: Rambler is the guy who prayed that God
would strike me dead
misserere: Hi eten
peace-joy: oh no
misserere: yup tien he will have to answer to God
tien_bau: MIserere
I know but hopefully you do
not take him
seriously on that
peace-joy: glad i wasnt here then
misserere: No I dont tien
_drew154: Are
there any spirit filled faith believing Christians in the room?
zdar23: yes
peace-joy: well i am drew
misserere: I really have no respect for rambler and he doesnt bother me
tien_bau: drew meaning ?
_drew154: You are peace
and zdaar?
peace-joy: sure
zdar23: yse
zdar23: oops yes
misserere: I have drew on ignore
_drew154: Tien, those that
answered know what it is.
peace-joy: explain drew
tien_bau: drew I do not know so never
mind if it is of so litle importancy.
peace-joy: you making a point with someone?
eternumpace: it is interesting to note, and
I speak heartfully, that christianity has cuch a potent panacea of descriptions
for the human psyche and yet we remain so so surprised by the proflegate
presumption of some its members, of whom I count every human being.
_drew154: People who say
they put others on ignore have a very hard time dealing with their own
insecurities.
coolmomatherbest: simple translate for me
peace-joy: yes...i was told to be sure of my beliefs before i entered in a chat
room
misserere: what did etern just say???????
coolmomatherbest: do not understand etern
eternumpace: I can only conclude that
absolutely nothing, not even an ambivelent God, can transcend the portents of
human experience
misserere: HUH?????????
_drew154: Who is
spiritfillled, faith believing here?
zdar23: i am
peace-joy: eter...could you explain
peace-joy: and i am drew
jldrgm1: me
misserere: could you be more clear
etern????
tien_bau: drew.. may I tell you just how
I do that ?.. when I want never to see a certain person i Ignore him/her for good
and ever.. maybe i reinstall the program and have to frepeat that but it is so
easy and make me better like to come on VP than on the old Excite
eternumpace: yes, peace-
eternumpace: yes, peace-joy, but i may
need some charts and an easle
_drew154: Eternumpace,
shouldn't you put quotes on what you just said? That is taken form "
Psychology Today" May edition
misserere: snort@charts and easel
_drew154: from not form
peace-joy: is someone trying to ignore those of us that are spiritfilled and faithful
eternumpace: i would drew, if i did. good
point.
misserere: I hope drew ignores me
misserere: cause i ignored him
eternumpace: ignorance is bliss lol
misserere: you should know etern
peace-joy: well i thought we could discuss christian life and learn in here
tien_bau: Peace.. let it be up to each of
us how to use the Ignpore bottom ?.. anyhow it is our choice what we want with
our computers ?
jldrgm1: we could
_drew154: Misserere, you
are like an ostrich. An animal that is powerful and can run fast with no
direction
peace-joy: tien....im not judging....just asking
drew154: Misserere, you
are like an ostrich that the bible says has no wisdom.
eternumpace: what do you mean, misserere?
peace-joy: jldrgm could do what?
zdar23: when we are judging people we dont have time to love them
tien_bau: drew.,.. that is a point of
view.. unfortunately not documented but that is your choise
peace-joy: zdar i like the way you think
jldrgm1: have meaningful
conversations on christianity
zdar23: peace, ty
peace-joy: ic
peace-joy: anytime
tien_bau: jldr. Yep and I have listened
to a few of them where you joined
jldrgm1: in fact, that is
why i suppose, many come here in the first place
coolmomatherbest: be right back.....going to get some lunch
misserere: I'll be back and forth for awhile.......Im starting lunch
jldrgm1: a huh
tien_bau: jldr Yepo I think too
zdar23: cool have a great lunch
eternumpace: well, a lot of people's nerves
seemd frayed in here. I suppose that is usual?
_drew154: tien, if I do
not speak exactly and truthfuly, and what you said is correct, eveyone in this
room-except for me- foundation is built on air.
tien_bau: gota go it is supper time.. BRB
peace-joy: supper??
_drew154: their foundation
is built on air.
peace-joy: where
misserere: denmark peace
tien_bau: drew I read your sentence LOL
peace-joy: whos foundation is biult on air??
peace-joy: not mine
tien_bau: BRB
zdar23: tien, have a great dinner
jldrgm1: mines on a Rock
_drew154: Later you all.
peace-joy: solid as a rock here
jldrgm1: the Rock
zdar23: drew, go in peace and serve the Lord
_drew154: zdar23, and you
too.
zdar23: ty
jldrgm1: all other ground
is like shifting sand
peace-joy: amenjldrgm
jldrgm1: amen
eternumpace: well, i have posed the point
and this room has made the case for me. my work is done I suppose. Peace and
love, all. And if you can't manage that, seek psychiatric help. I mean it :-)
jldrgm1: what work?
jldrgm1: what did i miss?
peace-joy: i received a bunch of stuff in the mail today
zdar23: etern, have a wonderful blessing filled day
peace-joy: lots of flyers about christians
jldrgm1: did you pose a
point?
jldrgm1: was a point
posted?
peace-joy: who jldrgm?
jldrgm1: eternum said he posed a point
peace-joy: oh
aheavenscent: HEY HOW IS EVERYONE IN HERE
DOING????????
jldrgm1: so, what was it?
jldrgm1: good thanks
zdar23: heaven, really wonderful
peace-joy: hello aheaven
peace-joy: wonderful here
peace-joy: waiting and serving
aheavenscent: hi
hi
soooooooooo
peace-joy: what happened
aheavenscent: i dont know
jldrgm1: country girl is a good song
jldrgm1: by NEal Youhg
jldrgm1: young
peace-joy: anyone here go to myrtle beach to the christian singing last weekend
zdar23: peace i live to far away
coolmomatherbest: back
jldrgm1: no
Entering Pagan Chat 2...
gypsy2u: .
gypsy2u:
gypsy2u: Gwenn
A. Lewis
gypsy2u: .
gypsy2u: .
gypsy2u: Skin
so fair illuminating shafts
gypsy2u: of
light peaking out.
gypsy2u: .
eternumpace: i
like that
gypsy2u: mm
pace
eternumpace: please.
continue...
gypsy2u: sorry
i was working on something
eternumpace: i
do that all the time.
eternumpace: boy.
things sure seem quiet when one leaves christian chat
eternumpace: makes
you wonder why the world hasn't blown itself up already
gypsy2u: that's cuz it is
quiet.......=8-]
eternumpace: well,
perhaps i will leave you to your muse of abundance. see you later!
gypsy2u: be
well