Michael: you a psychologist realize2actualize: something like this realize2actualize: naturally trained though Michael: nice.. Michael: you do therapy realize2actualize: all the time realize2actualize: so, what can I do for you? Michael: just wanted to know, what therapy you follow realize2actualize: I don't follow any kind of particular therapy realize2actualize: common sense therapy maybe, some aspect of gestalt, talk therapy... but basically it                             is based upon the assumption that we all have the need to express and share                               ourselves, to be listened to, to relate ourselves Michael: you heard of logotherapy realize2actualize: oh yes realize2actualize: Victor Frankl realize2actualize: very much so Michael: he's awesome realize2actualize: yes, he sure is realize2actualize: amazing what he has endured, and yet, developed this outlook Michael: very humanistic theory realize2actualize: that nobody can this, our last freedom, the freedom to think, to have goal, and to                             believe in this goal so much that no suffering can take this  away from you, and as                             he said, if you have a "what" to live for you can deal with almost any "how" Michael: you read any Jung? realize2actualize: yes, of course realize2actualize: I studied the best of them all and extrapolated the wisdom contained in different                              works from different authors and psychologists Michael: which works did you like of Jung realize2actualize: I don't want to take time now to talk about specific books realize2actualize: I rather would like to know what it is you seek in like, and what it is you seek from                             talking to me. Sorry to be that direct, but I rather like to cut directly to the case as                             time is a very important commodity to me, as in life Michael: just data realize2actualize: sorry then Michael: so you follow any religions realize2actualize: no realize2actualize: < freethinker Michael: no higher power realize2actualize: religion can be a a dangerous thing realize2actualize: within ourselves realize2actualize: the higher power Michael: when used by the wrong man realize2actualize: not outside of us realize2actualize: we all have this power Michael: so you agree with the existentialists realize2actualize: are connect through it realize2actualize: I somewhat agree with everyone realize2actualize: since I have come to realize that life is not about what you agree with, or even what                             you like, but rather that all those ideas and opinions and human emotions and values                             and virtues and vices all make up the world realize2actualize: we have power to create ourselves realize2actualize: the question of how we human beings and this planet came into being concerns me                             less Michael: agreed, to some degree.. i feel we are more like objects to be interrogated realize2actualize: I am more concerned with how we use our powers while alive Michael: nice insight realize2actualize: thing is, we are subject, and we have to learn as such realize2actualize: thanks realize2actualize: Erich Fromm realize2actualize: name sounds familiar? Michael: yes realize2actualize: he is my main teacher Michael: ive heard he has some good works, haven't dove into him realize2actualize: his work has inspired me greatly realize2actualize: more than anybody else I presume Michael: so what do you think of the collective unconscious realize2actualize: I am sure that it is going to be a great experience realize2actualize: it very much exists realize2actualize: what level we humans think on, what level we exist on realize2actualize: but you talk about the unconscious realize2actualize: well realize2actualize: I think everything realize2actualize: begins within ourselves realize2actualize: how we think, how we live, how well we are in tune with ourselves and others, or how                             removed and separated we are Michael: the world implies a perceiver realize2actualize: we all are that realize2actualize: since we all perceive realize2actualize: and our perception create our reality Michael: yes