Uefa Cups Year 07/08
additional to Bert's Uefa page
Hello all,

18-02-08: And more weekend results are in.
Warning: starting this Friday I will be on vacation for a week. Possibly next update will be only in March!
Are you all ready for another week full of European matches! CL is starting also again this week. Many matches seem to have a clear winner, who would go for Celtic or Olympiakos, but surprises do happen, and maybe these wil come closer than let's say a Lyon win over Man.Utd! What will happen with Roma and Real Madrid, a great fight! And what about Milan and Liverpool, doing not very good in their local league, but these are teams that always perform in CL....
In UC return matches are following. A pity all are played on Thursday. Will we see surprises? Zenit for instance...? It could be good for PSV, as PSV is just below Villarreal in the teamranking. With some more luck it could mean rising to pot 1 in next years CL, but that is still a looong way to go. first we lose 16 teams this week. I hope PSV will manage....
12-02-08: Last weekend matches are in
Tomorrow the UefaCupmatches start again. Finaly some serious movements in the ranking can happen, though I guess it's mostly top 10 that is playing. Interesting enough. The fight for a seeded spot in CL-Q3 is still influenced by coming matches. Maybe mostly even in the UC! Spartak, Everton, Atletico, Slavia, Galatasaray and Fiorentina all are now on a spot that puts them in CL-Q3. And all just above or beneath the seeding line. With a good run in UC they can become seeded, with a bad run they can become unseeded....
06-02-08: Wow, it's been a lon gtime. Too long I know, but this Soccerway keeps changing their tables and now I got a problem with the coding - therefor Bayern, Fenerbahce and Zurich have some strange characters, but their coefficient should be correct - if one is not correct please report.
The second half od the season starts now. It starts to be getting clearer who will win/fight for the title:In Spain Madrid is ahead, but showed last weekend that nothing is certain yet, but besides Barcelona others are too far away. In England Arsenal loks strong, with Manchester up their neck. Chelsea doesn't seem to have it (again) this year. In Italy Inter is miles ahead, the only questionI have is will Fiorentina manage to stay in top 4(probably not). In France it's old Lyon again, though not far ahead (yet). Who can really challenge Bayern this year? In Portugal is Porto unbeatable(?). In Romania will be the question if CLuj can keep up te good work in the second half of the season. In Holland PSV have taken a lead the last month with away wins at Feyenoord, Ajax and AZ. Currently I don't see another team getting even close to them anymore...
With Milan, Liverpool and Sevilla going to UC, PSV is looking at a possible pot 1 qualification, that would be too much, but if they would manage to get far in UC it really stays a possibility. For Fenerbahce to get in pot 3 they still need some points and the same teams have to stay in UC, Sevilla is one they should handle themselves
07-01-08: Happy new year to everybody!
It has been a few weeks since the last update, but now it's there. There are not many leagues plying in this time of year, but there are. Mainly commonwelth. And, due to the play-offs, Holland.
Due to some error in my predictionsheet I had to give a few countries a few more points: Portugal(0.5), Finland(0.27), Romania(0.1) and a few more. Sorry for this. I recalculated everything and Portugal is now way ahead to reach 6th spot.
20-12-07: UC matches are now accounted for. I put the latest countryranking '08 prediction on. Holland drops from 6th spot to 9th as AZ lost :(. Well it seems Portugal will take it, though AZ fault made Zenit being able to give Russia another shot.....
16-12-07: Updated with CL matches and latest league games. In Cl nothing unexpected happened, that's why predicted cntryranking 08 did not change much'. This week it will change more: WHat will happen in group A: will AZ qualify, and/or Zenit- this will influence largely chances of Holland and Russia of possibly reaching 6th spot. Though it will not influence this prediction, it is more intersting, I think: the draw for the next 2 rounds!
09-12-07: updated with latest leaguegames. I'm awaiting latest CL matches, Will Liverpool and Lyon make it?...
06-12-07: Oops I messed up with the page. I put an updated predition country&teamranking. it's all so close for spot 6, spot 10 and 13. Incredible.
Next 2 weeks will be last md for a lot of teams, a few had already it this week. After these 2 weeks the number of countries will be reduced that still will be playing - no more 'small countries. Well Sweden will still be there!. And who else....
29-11-07: I have updated my predictionsheets with the results of this week \. Germany had a fantastic week, France not, also less were Russia and Portugal, while Holland managed to win their both games (both 1-0). Result is that the predicted yearranking puts Holland now 6th - caused by PSV winning the uefacup now.
25-11-07: After the Euroqualifiers have finsihed now with quit a remarkable ending - no England - we now start the leagues again and the CL&UC. Again a matchweek just after 2 international matches. I can't imagine this is the best preparation for such a week....
I included the league-results sofar, more results will be included in the following week, where my thoughts will be concentrated on the CL and UC groups. Especially the CL groups are getting closer to their ending WHich teams will qualify and which teams will be out. Especially I am looking forward to Tuesdays CSKA-PSV match, of course. Will PSV manage to get at least a point, to secure the UC position, or will they be out with a loss or consider next CL-round with a win. Also the Inter-Fener match will be of influence there. Will Fener get top-spot? Or will Inter keep Fener down (making the away match against PSV a obligatory waist of time.....?)
Other questions will be: will Liverpool and Lyon get back in business in time? Can Rosenborg and Olympiakos bring more surprises. And for our Romanian friends: Will Steaua get revenge on Slavia, and keep the hope on a UC-spot?
12-11-07: Monday evening again - updating all legue matches of the weekend. Summer leagues are as good as over. Tonight I read that Platini's proposal made it, excluding -as expected- teh CupWinner part. That's not good news for Holland, Portugal, Scotland, etc. Their second team will have it much harder to qualify with the last-qualifier of the top-16 playing eachother for 4 spots. It enables more champions in the CL, which I like, but the cost should have been made by the top-3/top-5 countries, not 6-16.
08-11-07: I couldn't wait I have updated my predictions sheets to see what the consequences were of this weeks matches. As I am watching for the 6th & 8th countryline a lot happened in CL"Benfica lost and looks to become 4th in the group. PSV lost too, and now looks to be ending on spot 3, there being second seed after Liverpool. The UC matches might have been surprising, but did not change that much in the order of the groups (yet). All in all we can see Russia rising, up to 6th spot. Holland gained some predicted points due to PSV downfall, and Portugal and Germany lost some.
Also the fight for spot 15/16 Is becoming very interesting. Bulgaria is lost I'm afraid, but Switzerland, Greece and Norway, all have their chances still!
05-11-07: And some more domestic league matches are in. The summer leagues are getting to their end.
Meanwhile we have another European week this week lots of CL and UC matches this week. Slowly we will see which teams will qualify and which will be eliminated in the groupstages....
28-10-07: As I know some of you will be waiting for new values and I won't be able to tomorrow morning, here are some intermediate values. Not all results of Sunday evening are in yet. a domestic cup week is coming. I hope to get some time to put some domestic results in my sheets.
26-10-07: I updated the predictions of the country& teamranking at the end of the year. It's funny to see that in UC every match changes the order of teams already, where in CL it doesn't work that fast, only now changes are appearing there. In UC already some changes have happened. for instance Sparta P is on 4th spot(from 2 and Zurich on 3 (form 5), more chages have happened, but not(yet) in qualification for next round, though 2nd or 3rd already can make a difference. All is based on higher coefficient winning at home, drawing away.
Interesting fights awaits us still for the 6-9th spot and for 13-16th spot.All could be decided by 1 team qualifying or not. Can Steaua qualify for UC? can PSV eliminate CSKA and go themselves to UC or do they go to CL. The lst thing seems less interesting(getting less points after winter), but means PSV got more points before winter! What will the portugues clubs in the CL do? all have still a lot of chances to go to CL, UC or be out.
This weekend another round in domestic league - maybe another summer-champion?
23-10-07: I had some troubles getting the latest version of my sheets uploaded, but finally I managed. Some champions are known already, some summer leagues are extending the decision till the last matchday, like Sweden looks to be doing.
Tonight again CL, PSV and Fenerbahce have the first confrontation to decide who will join Inter to the second round. I (luckily) just saw that Inter managed to score 1-2, which will take CSKA a bit further out of the race. PV and Fenerbahce will really decide it between them. ALso tonight: who will grab their last chance, Stuttgart or Lyon... Later this week the UCGS starts.
08-10-07: Well , I had a busy weekend-not really time for computerwork. But anyway I guess fir now the Monday evening will become my update evening. Tonight I implemented the CL-GS in my yearranking predictions. Due to some results teams now go to CL-R2 iso go tou (Rangers!), etc. This does influence the ranking of course. Most of all the Uefacup R1 returns were of influence. Quit a massacre for Holland. But also for Italy, France, Romania and more top-10 countries it was bad. Germany and Russia profit from this. In the predictions they end up on place 5 & 6. But the fight for 6 is still very much open (at least on paper) with only 2.5 points difference between the 6th spot and the 9th (and that is ofcourse quit in difference in reward-unless Platini& Co changes it soon).On the graph you can see the downfall of Romania and Holland and the rise of Portugal and the straight line of Russia all within eachothers grip.
In the mean time the summer leagues start to end: Tampere Utd is the new Finish champion, while in Russia Zenit lost to make it a tight call, in Sweden it's 3 teams witin a point, in Norway Brann is cruising to the title. Have a look at all the summer leagues, it's decision time there!
01-10-07: The updates of the domestic leagues will not be anymore done every monday morning as I was used to do. I got a new job and first I got to prove myself there before I can take some time every monday morning. I will try to do it every monday evening, maybe even with already some updates on sunday evening, but still some matches are then being played and not everything is known then yet.
We got a interesting week coming up. In CL all the away teams will play athome now and it will be a bit more clear how the relations a in a group are. But probably all will still be more or less open. In UC however this week 40 teams will drop out, while the other 40 will play at least another 4 matches. That is a huge difference in coefficient, points, money. Will Greece put up another splendid week? Will Portugal another bad one?...
24-09-07: And a superweekend has passed. There was Man.United-Chelsea (after Mourinho's leave interesting to see what will happen...), Barcelona-Sevilla and PSV-Feyenoord/AZ-Ajax and probably more top-matches.
The summer leagues are getting closer to their end and every match ther could be decisive for losing the championship. Follow it up close!
13-09-07: Finally domestic league info is complete and so the sheets for next year are there. I hope I got all teamnames translated right and so no missing coefficients. Just in time for the 'real'season to start.
11-09-07: I am still busy updating all the domestic league data to get the new predictions for the partticipationlist of 08/09. It doesn't help when I throw away all the work every now and then-or Soccerway changes all again. Well I am getting close now. I still have to update it for the lates domestic view stands and I hope Soccerway does not change everything again.
I saw on Bert's forum a request for the predictions I made last year. I have that already updated with the latest scores and draws. Those links on the left should work, the rest will be added soon. I hope/suppose. Without work I should have all the time of the world, but I have less time behind a PC as before. And I already start working again in 3 weeks.....
05-08-07: Finally the new page is here. At least this start page is. All the other pages still have to be made. I am still busy with the domestic leagues and domestic cups, so also the candidates for CL and UC of 08/09 are not available yet.
But I do have made my predictions for the country- and team-ranking '08. On request of Ryan I have added a nice graphical view of the changes in coefficient-prediction during the season. As we have already had some matches and decisions, actualy there can be already seen some changes. I myself find the bottom countries hard to see, but in general it looks fine. Thanks for the idea Ryan! Please all tell me what you think of it.
In the predictions you can see that Germany has a nice year ahead. Due to the 'loss' of the Dutch and Russian Intertoto team, they both are getting closer to eachother AND to Romania.
Question this year will be if there will be a fight about the 15th spot. Currently Bulgaria and Czechia are clear ahead of Greece and Switzerland. Greece with 6 team ('luckily' OFI lost too) looks a mission impossible, while Switzerland is even further behind....


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Update 18 Feb-08: 22:00 6CET
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