GUNS N` ROSES SPECIAL
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Today I'm gonna present you an essay about Guns n' Roses controversial
relationships with the press. Many Guns` fans still wonder what went wrong
between Axl and the media, what "Get In The Ring" is about and why it was
written. If you wanna know more about it, read about it here in killer
essay that was written by Natalie Sutherland exlusively for the NIGHTRAIN.
I want to thank Natalie Sutherland
for this essay and I hope you will find it interesting.
-Ronnie Slogun
GUNS N` ROSES vs. PRESS
NB. First draft only
(the elongated version of this essay was written especially for and is exclusive to
the Guns N’ Roses Nightrain site)
And that goes for all you punks in the press
That want to start shit by printing lies
Instead of the things we said
That means you
Andy Secher at Hit Parader
Circus Magazine
Mick Wall at Kerrang
Bob Guccione Jr.., at Spin
What you pissed off cuz your dad gets more
Pussy than you?
Fuck you
Suck my fuckin' dick
You be rippin' off the fuckin' kids
While they be payin' their hard earned
Money to read about the bands they want to know about
Printin' lies, startin' controversy
You wanta antagonize me?
Antagonize me motherfucker
Get in the ring motherfucker
And i'll kick your bitchy little ass
Punk!
One of the things that makes this band so controversial is that we tell the truth.
From the beginning of their career,
Guns N' Roses, one of the most controversial rock bands in music history,
have been under the uncomprimising interrogation of the press, as Lonn
M. Friend, writing in RIP 1992 tells us: "For every million fans
they've gathered, they've attracted a million critics... Of course, along
with the success has come the scrutiny of an often jealous and bitter press
which has gone out of its way to exploit the GN'R phenomena. When the band
finally put its foot down, refusing to play the game any longer, the resultant
backlash of negative opinion from the legitimate and metal media was astounding."
Finally making a stand at the peak of their career, Guns n' Roses released
the controversial song Get in the Ring (Use Your Illusion
II, Geffen Records, September 1991) which attacked the press and specific
figures in the press who supposedly printed falsehoods concerning Axl Rose
and Guns N' Roses (I am not interested in the actual lies printed by the
press but wish to concentrate on the actual conflict between the press
and Guns N' Roses and their fightback against this persecution).
The only direct response to ‘Get in
the Ring’ came from Bob Guccione Jnr. (editor/publisher of Spin at
the time), who announced to Rose, via the press, that he would be more
than obliged to “get in the ring” with him:
What I found unavailing about Guccione’s rebuttal was that he seemed to miss the point of Rose's implications and that he didn’t address the coreI take the fact that there has been absolutely no response from you to indicate how busy you must be, I mean, what with cancelling concerts, starting riots and beating up paying fans trying to take pictures of you, what a schedule you've had! I sympathize. So I just wanted to let you know that as soon as you’re ready, I am too. Perhaps until then you shouldn’t sing that song. At least not too loudly, eh?
accusation that he had printed lies
about Guns N’ Roses.
Spin was also mentioned in ‘Get
in the Ring’ because it had printed a full article on the future of Guns
N’ Roses (date unknown) which was based on a very short conversation that
writer Danny Sugerman had had with a very drunk Axl Rose in a bar one night.
I wasn’t able to find a copy of the article, but AJ Rosner of "Stacey and
AJ's Uzi Suicide Homepage" says:‘it wasn’t a terrible article ... but it
really was rather speculative in the interpretation of Axl’s comments.’
Rose (indirectly) responded to this in an interview in Rolling Stone,
admitting that "things are always going to get changed or taken out of
context, but some magazines will make up an interview just to sell issues.
One’s written that Slash said I run over dogs. I think it sucks when a
kid has three bucks and he buys... a magazine because he's really into
Guns N' Roses and he gets bad photos and an interview that's not true."
Slash supported Axl's viewpoint in Metal
Masters 1992, saying that "this band has generated bullshit hype for
so long... Some people seriously want to nail us, y' know? This band is
a magnet for it... sometimes too much shit gets hard to take though."
Apparently this conflict extended back
to 1990 when the band, sick of being harrassed by the press, proposed a
contract which gave them the ‘right of final approval over everything that
was written by anyone who signed it’ (Kim Neely, Rolling Stone 1992). In
June 1991, Spin printed a copy of the contract, sparking hostility
between Rose and Guccione Jnr. Following the argument above, I couldn’t
find any reason why they would choose to use this power over the press
to glorify themselves, as Rose states in Rolling Stone:
In terms of celebrity culture, it is true that celebrities will always be the focus of rumous and speculation. The press’ job, basically, is to find anything and everything that will depreciate the breach between celebrities and our ‘ordinary’ existence and the bulk of this material comes from private issues, something Duff McKagan (no offence Duff!) hasn't acknowledged, as he says in a press conference during their Get in the Ring Mother Fucker tour: "There is an important thing that many journalists have forgotten and that's personal integrity. It's written about our private life, which is completely wrong. What has our private life with the music of Guns N' Roses to do?" The answer, of course, is very little, but Guns N' Roses, after all, are celebrities, whether they like it or not and like all other celebrities, their private lives will always and inevitably be intertwined with what brought them to that status.We were trying to cut down our exposure... We were also trying to weed out the assholes from the people who were gonna be cool. You know, if you were willing to put your ass on the line and sign the damn thing, then we pretty much figured you weren't gonna try and screw us.
Except this is where the line is crossed:
yes, they will experience all the tribulations in the face of the press
that other celebrities must also endure; but in addition to this, not only
have they been the victim of lies and half-truths, but the issues in their
personal lives have not been used to "celebrate" their identity, nor to
unconsciously reduce their famed status, as celebrity culture would demand,
but rather, to antagonize them and debase their music. Revealed here is
the precise extent of power which the media posseses; they are able to
target and antagonize a particular figure or group whom they view as negative.
Guns N’ Roses contract proposal seems not to be a device for their own
dictation but simply a realisation and comprehension of the press’ abused
power.
In terms of cultural and historical contexts, I have to declare that much of the media's antagonism has come from the general aversion that existed (and still does) in the 1980s towards rock/heavy-metal (I do not mean to combine the characterisitcs of these two genres or to suggest which genre Guns N' Roses belongs to; but their connected consideration is fundamental to this argument).
Academic material revealed that the
attitude of the press has always been negative towards rock/heavy-metal
music. Robert Walser in Running with the Devil says of heavy metal
music and the press: ‘The enthusiasm of metal fan magazines is paralleled
by the hysterical denunciation of the mainstream press and smug dismissals
of most rock journalism.’ Likewise, John Hartley in Popular Reality
and Michael Parenti in Inventing Reality both acknowledge that the
press can be corrupt, with Parenti writing: ‘Like any liar the press is
filled with contradictions... the absence of supporting evidence, the failure
to amplify and explain.’
So the press’ perspective is perhaps
not as contrived as anticipated. Rather, it stemmed from a combination
three aspects: One, the unfavourable approach to heavy-metal/rock music,
as Kerrang's report on the Guns first album, "the sleaziest record
to come out of Smog Angeles since Motley Crue's Too Fast for Love debut",
proves (thanks to Ronnie for this quote from his Guns N' Roses Story at
Nightrain); two, the role of the press to reflect the views of the general
public; and three, the fact that Guns N’ Roses is a band whose domain,
music and image is proudly founded on controversial and often negative
content, as the dictum from Get in the Ring shows, "You may not like our
integrity/We built a world out of anarchy", or as Dean Kuipers writes in
Spin (september 1991) of Axl: "[he] has built an empire from the chips
constantly falling from his shoulder." Duff McKagan (bassist) elaborated
on this combination of perspectives in a press conference, when asked why
the media hated them, he answered:
Yet even though all this may be some sort of an explanation for why so much bullshit exists about the band on behalf of the press, it is not an excuse for their behaviour not is it an effective defence or justification of their malicious attitude towards Guns N' Roses.It's been like that from the beginning. Before anyone even knew what we sounded like we had gotten a reputation... We got famous as an asocial band and wherever we went the reputation followed.
The overarching question in assessing
this argument is: where does the truth rest? Is Rose (on behalf of Guns
N' Roses) standing up for what he believes in or is he trying to conceal
the 'dirt' that the media has picked up and exposed? The nature of the
issue forces the answer to be, essentially, the word of Guns N' Roses against
the word of the press; and the press, after all, is not going to openly
admit that they lie. The only indication we have that they have lied is
from the assertions of Guns N’ Roses and their advocates.
Yet in performing this critical analysis,
we must also question the integrity of Axl Rose and Guns N' Roses. If we
are to dispute the press, can the word of the opposing party be trusted?
Guns N' Roses have flaunted themselves as a band interested in promoting
the reality in their coverage, whether it be positive or, for the large
part, negative. Their willingness and audacity to acknowledge their often
unfavourable behaviour and to stand by their opposing beliefs awards them
much credit; they want the truth and they're not ashamed of it, regardless
of how severe it may be. Rose elaborates on this in Rolling Stone:
Rose relates a specific example of a 'bullshit story' in Kerrang! 1990: "Like [Mick] Jagger was supposed to have told me off [according to the press] and the next thing you know, I'm onstage singing with him... That sure fucked with a lot of them."I want the real story. I never wanted 'Steven Adler's on vacation.' I wanted 'Steven Adler's in a fucking rehab.’ I wanted the reality... I've always been more into the reality of the situations because that's what I wanted to read about the band. I can see where it would look like we just wanted everything to be right about us. But it was also trying to find a way to work with certain metal magazines. There are a lot of kids who collect those and we'd rather have real stories than bullshit stories.
It seems contradictory, if all this
is itself not true, that Guns N’ Roses would have fought back so ferociously
at such lies devised and circulated by the press, let alone released a
song (partially) about it on one of their albums.
Many of the magazine interviews I read
--the majority of them with Rose-- coveered this conflict between Guns n'
Roses and the media. Although we are only presented with one point of view
here, I have to comment that they are rational and Rose shows in RIP
just
how much he understands the media and what they are doing: "You end up
with this person looking at your life not through a telescope, but rather
a kaleidoscope. Everything's in pieces and distorted. I understand that
everybody wants to print the dirt -- that sells magazines -- but you should
first try to find out if the dirt is true."
More openly, Axl accuses the press of
lying in one of his common speeches onstage:
I found that journalists who didn’t lie about the band, over-emphasised their negative qualities and criticized them with little or no backing to their claims. An article by Joe Queenan in TIME magazine (September 1991) based its hostile argument around how many times the word FUCK was used on the album and around recontextualising and reducing the lyrics to their literal meaning (a typical sociological approach in contemporary music studies, though I wonder if Queenan is familiar with this method or if he is simply using it unknowingly to support his prejudiced attitude) and then designating them as the core of the band’s integrity. What’s more, Queenan has obviously not done his homework in discussing many Guns N' Roses' songs. In referring to the controversial "One in a Million", for example, he criticizes Rose's mentality in using the word "niggers" (as have almost every other journalist out there) when his bandmate Slash is himself "half black". I am not going to explain the circumstances behind the use of "nigger" in the song but if you can be bothered, unlike Queenan and many others, to read what Rose has to say about it, it becomes clear that Slash's ethnic background has nothing to do with it and that accusations of racism are somewhat out of place. The article also frivolously and malignantly compares Rose to the Scarecrow from The Wizard of Oz and the band to the ‘brain-dead metalheads’ from the film This is Spinal Tap.Guns N' Roses is just a prime fuckin' example of freedom of statement. But there are a lot of people that wanna deny that, so basically they're gonna say 'Axl Rose liked about this, lied about that' when actually what they're gonna tell you is half truths. They'll tell you that 'he got into a fight with a parking attendant' but they won't tell you that fifteen parking attendants jumped him and wouldn't let him into his own concert... And according to these people [ie the press] I guess all we do is lie..."
In the same sense, an article by Paul
Pottinger in the Sydney Morning Herald (Jan 1993) established its cynical
viewpoint of the band and more specifcially of Rose, on his failure to
uphold this "bad boy" image Rose has (which has been partially constructed
in the article anyway): "the fearsome lead singer implored fans not to
throw missiles [at him]. Not the sort of outlaw utterance one would expect
from someone living on the edge of eternity" (yet another empty claim;
who, except Paul Pottinger, assumes Rose is living on the edge of eternity?)
Although Pottinger does describe the music in a positive manner, he also
falls into the trap of making trivial assertions about the band. He implies,
for example, that the death of two people at the Guns Donington concert
in Britain was their fault (although the band stopped playing a few times
in an attempt to calm the crowd) and hints that "Axl Rose" is a deliberate
anagram of 'oral sex' and reprimands the crowd for perpetuating the "most
dangerous band in the world hype."
There are journalists, however, who
recognise and expose the contaminated attitude towards Guns N’ Roses embodied
in other members of the press. Lonn M. Friend, for instance, writes in
RIP:
"Ninety-nine percent of the crap spewed forth that is critical of Axl and
Guns comes from the clueless mental press the band has chosen to ignore.
These 'journalists', stung by their lack of access, choose to take the
vindictive route and attack rather than seek explanations. Then again,
you may ask, how can these othere mags be objective and offer substance
if Guns N' Roses won't talk to em? Perhaps they should've thought of that
before prostituting the band year after year with rampant rumour-mongering,
blatant falsehoods ... and just overall riding the GN'R gravy train until
there wasn’t a legitimate drop left."
So celebrities they may be and controversial
ones at that, but the way Axl Rose and Guns N' Roses have been treated
by the press seems hardly accountable when we assess the material above.
Questions of who to trust and who to believe have been indirectly answered
from the band's retaliation against the press and surrounding evidence.
It has been made clear that Guns N' Roses revolve around negativity (strictly
speaking) and truth, two doctrines when thrown into the mix together, have
drawn the criticism, rejection and subjugation they have endured from the
press, who, in conclusion, are able to use their power to lie about somebody
they wish to antagonize; the evidence clearly shows that this was the case
concerning Axl Rose and Guns N’ Roses.
Many thanks to Peter Andersson, Juan, Patrick Murphy, AJ Rosner, Mikkel Soerensen, Ronnie Slogun AND Jake O'Connor and Mick Sears
for their assistance with this essay.
- NATALIE SUTHERLAND
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