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 Farewell Party?
Author: John Houle (137.122.229.---)
Date:   03-05-03 14:57

Colleagues:

Has anything been decided upon staging a final farewell party
to celebrate the life and times of Richelieu Valley High? I have
been monitoring this Internet site hoping that a decision will
be made on this subject.

Thanks in advance,

John Houle
(Richelieu Valley, 1972)

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 Re: Farewell Party?
Author: Marie-Josée Nadeau (---.tvcablenet.be)
Date:   04-30-03 14:29

Hi, I am from the Class of 81 and asking myself the same question - I never say no to a good party. I would have to know in advance because I need to book a ticket to travel the 6000 kms to come.

HOpe we find what is happening soon

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 Re: Farewell Party?
Author: michel malin (4.43.100.---)
Date:   04-30-03 14:58

How about a combination farewell and new beginnings party.... where we invite all of Macdonald Cartier alumni to join us??? Maybe even get some sports going.....

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 Re: Farewell Party?
Author: Marie-Josée Nadeau (---.tvcablenet.be)
Date:   05-01-03 06:39

Okay for the sports thing but I was part of the artistic crowd....

Where's the beer?????? I can bring some Belgian beer if you like!!!

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 Re: Farewell Party?
Author: Marc Wigle (---.sympatico.ca)
Date:   05-02-03 19:01

My company MyHighSchoolBuddies.com Inc. was formed specifically to organize high school reunions. We are based in Aylmer, Quebec just across the river from Ottawa.

If enough people show that they are interested in a reunion, we would be pleased to help out.

Send an email to rvhs_reunion@myhighschoolbuddies.com with your name and grad year if you're interested. You may also wish to visit our website at www.MyHighSchoolBuddies.com


Thanks

Marc

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 Re: Farewell Party?
Author: Tania Fell (---.qc.sympatico.ca)
Date:   05-03-03 00:12

Hi Marc,

I think that the reunion would be best put together from grads from RVRHS. I've almost completed a 20 year reunion of my class from 1983, solely from the usage of this website. I have been using a software program that enables me to contact as many grads as I need to, with only their names or e-mail addresses. From there, these grads are able to see who's responding back and forth to each other, and to spread the word.

You would be amazed at how many people come onto this website on a daily basis.......I'm not the webmaster of this site, but just "word of mouth" has enabled me to organize my 20 year reunion, with the majority of grads using rvrhs.org.

Denis Bernicky, the creator of this site, has given a lot of people the opportunity to get together again, years after their graduations. He's doing a really good job!

I'm not knocking your company, trust me!! But why have grads from RVR go onto another competive website to get their information out there, when all they do is come here?

Which highschool did you attend?

Good luck Marc, and if you need any assistance in organizing your highschool reunion, call me, and maybe I'll share my secret!! (for a price, of course)

Regards

TF

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 Re: Farewell Party?
Author: John Houle (137.122.229.---)
Date:   05-03-03 13:57

Tania:

In October, 1999 and again two weeks later
in November, 1999 an information session to
discuss the prospects for conducting a
school-wide Richelieu Valley High reunion
was held in the teachers' lounge at Richelieu
Valley High. This event was broadcast
beforehand on the alumni site and any alumni
who wanted to attend were welcome to do so.
The meeting attracted a total of about 8
alumni and 2 teachers.

At the meeting several problems became
evident:

1. Alumni database was out of date. Of
approximately 7000 Richelieu Valley High
alumni, we had addresses for perhaps 4000
left over from the last 1995 reunion.
Because of the nomadic nature of modern
life, maybe 2000 of these addresses are
still accurate. The most accurate way to
find alumni is as you have mentioned, word
of mouth. The best way to do this is to
assign a 2-3 person research team for
each graduating class to track down alumni.
At the last reunion, myself and another
1972 alumnus were able to find 160 out of
an estimated 210 alumni from the class of
1972. Finding a group of 200-300 alumni
is enough work for a single research team.
It's a lot of work but not impossible.
Trying to find a larger number of graduates
is too difficult for a single research group.
Thus, in order to find everyone it would
be necessary to find several volunteers
from each year to act as a research group
for each class. Running newspaper ads to
attract alumni was not very cost effective.

2. Shortage of money. We only had enough
money to perhaps mail out one set of
invitations to alumni. Recall that many
of the database addresses are obsolete.
Money is still needed for other purposes,
eg paying for food, drink, music, renting
a hall, hiring waiters / waitresses and
laborers, etc.

3. Shortage of manpower. In the 1970s
there was a huge exodus of the English
language community out of Montreal. The
most popular destinations were: Ontario (in
particular Toronto), Alberta and British
Columbia. As a result, few Richelieu Valley
High are still left living on the South
Shore. In order to successfully organize
a reunion, it would be necessary to have
a group of (at least) 20 alumni who could
devote significant amounts of time and
work to such an undertaking.

4. Chairperson. No one was willing to become
the chairperson of the reunion committee.
Such a position requires a lot of time and
work. Many of us are now middle aged and
lead very busy lives focusing on some
combination of the following: a. earning
advanced university degrees, b. developing
careers, c. establishing businesses, d.
raising families, e. caring for aged parents,
etc. Thus, finding a chairperson capable of
such an undertaking is another variant of the
manpower shortage problem 3 above.

I will continue this discussion in my next
message.

Thanks in advance,

John Houle
(Richelieu Valley, 1972)

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 Re: Farewell Party?
Author: John Houle (137.122.229.---)
Date:   05-03-03 14:02

Tania:

Thus, at the meeting in the teachers' lounge
(which attracted only 8 alumni and 2 teachers)
we circled around these same problems over
and over again. We were unable to find any
solutions and so the prospects for conducting
a school-wide reunion were indefinitely
postponed.

I will continue this discussion in my next
message.

Thanks in advance,

John Houle
(Richelieu Valley, 1972)

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 Re: Farewell Party?
Author: John Houle (137.122.229.---)
Date:   05-03-03 15:13

Tania:

Having discussed the problems for conducting
a school-wide reunion, I have some ideas for
their solution.

1. One idea to get around the money problem
would be to advertise a possible reunion and
ask alumni to send in donations. If a
certain minimum threshold of money could be
raised, then the reunion would proceed.
If a sufficient amount of money could not
be raised by beforehand donations, then the
money would be returned to the donors and
the reunion would be called off. (Don't
anyone send in any money now to Richelieu
Valley High or any group claiming to
represent Richelieu Valley High alumni.
This idea is purely theoretical at the
present time.)

2. Possible candidates for chairing such a
reunion would be alumni still living on
the South Shore. Because of the amount of
time and work involved in chairing a reunion,
I think that the only way to recruit such a
reunion chairperson would be to offer them
a small salary for their efforts. However,
this then compounds one of the aforementioned
problems of lack of money because additional
money would have to be found to pay the
additional salary for the chairperson. An
ideal person for chairing such a reunion
would have a personal interest in the school
and would also have enough time and
flexibility in their schedules for such an
undertaking. I'm not being chauvinistic
here, but perhaps such a person could include
a Richelieu Valley High alumnus who is
currently a homemaker still living on the
South Shore or else a retired Richelieu
Valley High teacher who has similarly
remained on the South Shore.

3. Another solution to the alumni research
and money problems would be to look to the
alumni. One of the past comments raised
about conducting a school-wide reunion came
from some alumni who had long since moved
far away from Montreal and were no longer
residing on the South Shore. The comment
made went something to the effect of: "What
can we do to help since we live thousands of
miles away from Montreal?". Such alumni
could make plenty of significant
contributions by donating money and finding
fellow alumni. Since most of us are no
longer living in Montreal anyway, the task
of finding fellow alumni involves making
long-distance phone calls, surfing the
Internet, looking up old telephone books
etc. Searching for fellow alumni can be
done from anywhere, since in most cases it
involves conducting searches on a long
distance basis.

4. Another solution to the money and alumni
research problems involves the use of
Internet technology. Using e-mail and the
alumni website could allow us to save money
on the cost of mailing out invitations and
making long-distance telephone calls. There
are also Internet search engines, telephone
directories, etc. that allow one to search
for fellow alumni using the Internet.
(Such activities could be referred to as
"cybersearching".)

5. Another solution to all of the problems
could be to hire an events management firm.
Events management firms stage events on a
cost basis. How much such firms would
charge for staging such a high school reunion
is unknown. Furthermore, it is unknown how
much money they would charge upfront as a
downpayment is also unknown. This
downpayment problem is acute in our case
because we have little money at the present
time.

Let us summarize. In the October, 1999
and November, 1999 meetings only 8 alumni
and 2 teachers were able to make it to the
schoolwide reunion committee meeting. The
problems that we were faced with were
insurmountable at that time. Critically,
what are needed is: 1. sufficient money,
2. sufficient manpower, 3. group of research
teams to generate up-to-date alumni database
of addresses, 3. sufficient time to organize
(6-18 months(?)) and 4. a reunion chairperson
to manage all of the above.

I agree with Tania that it would be ideal
for Richelieu Valley High alumni to organize
such a school-wide reunion. However, since
none of we alumni have the time, money and
energy to do so then perhaps having an events
management firm to do this job may be the way
to go, if it is in even in fact decided upon
whether to proceed with such a hypotherical
reunion.

In discussing the prospects for conducting
a school-wide reunion I should make several
points clear:

1. I am not capable of acting as the reunion
chair. Currently, I am located in Ottawa
and not in Montreal. Further, I am currently
very busy studying at Carleton University.
Being swamped with research I just don't
have the time to manage such a reunion.

2. I do not have any business interests in
any events management firms, ie I have no
affiliation with myhighschoolbuddies.com
or any other such firms. I therefore make
no recommendation on which events management
firm to hire to stage such a reunion if such
action is ever decided upon.

3. At the present time, this discussion
thread is purely hypothetical. Nothing
has been decided upon. We are purely
throwing ideas around. At the October
and November 1999 meetings we were only
able to attract a very small number of
alumni and teachers to our meetings. So
many of us live so far away from Montreal
that it is difficult to get there. A
final problem can be thrown into the
cauldron: the lack of a central authority
in deciding upon whether or not to embark
upon such a school-wide reunion. The
decision upon whether to proceed with such a
"final farewell" party will have to be made
by the alumni body as a whole. I do not have
the authority to speak on behalf of other
Richelieu Valley High alumni. In summary,
in posting this discussion thread I do not
want to prematurely raise anyone's hopes up of conductinga school-wide reunion.

In conclusion, as one reads the postings
one can detect a great deal of latent
interest in holding a final reunion for
Richelieu Valley High. However, because
our two fall 1999 meetings attracted an
insufficient number of alumni, I thought
that by posting this thread, the discussion
could be significantly enlarged in scope to include the many alumni whose only remaining
contact with Richelieu Valley High is
through Denis Bernicky's website. If anyone
has ideas, thoughts or contributions to
make on this subject, then this would be
the place to advance your propositions.
Finally, out of the estimated population of
7000 Richelieu Valley High alumni, perhaps
some brave alumnus will step forward to
volunteer as the reunion chairperson.

Thanks in advance,

John Houle
(Richelieu Valley, 1972)

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 Re: Farewell Party?
Author: Tania Fell (---.qc.sympatico.ca)
Date:   05-04-03 12:58

Hi John,

Have a nice day!!

T

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 Re: Farewell Party?
Author: Marc Wigle (---.sympatico.ca)
Date:   05-05-03 13:51

Hi Tania - I attended Philemon Wright in Hull across the river from Ottawa. We have our 35th anniversary reunion on May 31st of this year and are planning for attendance of at least 1500 alumnus. We have been able to contact well over 2000 people directly and who knows how many thru word-of-mouth. Should be a blast and looking forward to organizing many more in the future for other schools.

Our company is the only one of its kind in Canada. We don't ask for anything upfront from the school or alumni association but make our fees back from the tickets sold. A portion of the profits go to the school directly or thru the alumni association to be paid out at their discretion.

Finally, one great advantage about using our company is that we expect to continue well into the future and therefore we keep a website alive and make sure that alumni lists are kept up to date so that the next reunion is that much easier to organize. The main problem with using alumni volunteers is that most don't stick around for more than one reunion so that the organizers of the next reunion have toi start from scratch. I know this from experience.

Marc

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 Re: Farewell Party?
Author: Karen (Kasey) Cree-Cartwright (---.qc.sympatico.ca)
Date:   05-07-03 21:46

First of all, I have to say, "John, are you for real???" Organizing a reunion is not rocket science. It is a lot of work, and is very time consuming, as Tania is finding out now, and I found out last summer, as many many before us have found out in the past. You ramble on and on about how much work is involved, you sent me the exact same message over a year ago when I was planning my Otterburn reunion.

That being said, on to the real purpose for this posting, the RVR closing bash, we had the date, we had the band, we had big plans, was put on hold last Novemeber when a few well meaning although misinformed/misguided parents got involved in the injunction to stop the move/closure of RVR. We decided that there was no point in having a closing party for something that may or may not close. We had to await the judge's decision, she didn't make her decision until December 23rd in the late afternoon. We then had to pack a school, move a school, get the kids settled into the new temporary facility etc. etc. Now we are trying to have Academic Awards, Sports Awards, Exams, Graduation and Prom, pack and move one more time, this time closing the school completely all by the end of June and we must somehow, in there, educate our students.

You can go on and on about your past meetings, the RVR alumni etc., etc., but quite frankly, I have to be honest, instead of ranting and raving about how much work is involved in planning and running a reunion, either do something concrete about it or please spare us the lenghty disertation.

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 Re: Farewell Party?
Author: lindsay nuttall (---.39-201-24.mtl.mc.videotron.ca)
Date:   06-09-03 10:56

Hi there everyone..I`m from class 97 and a farwell party would be great..if i could do anything to help it would be my pleaser to help..im still in contact with other people from other years so if i can do something just email me
Thanks in adavance
Lindsay Nutall

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 Re: Farewell Party?
Author: Tania Fell (---.mediagrif.com)
Date:   06-09-03 11:27

Hi Lindsay,

I have to agree with you that a Farewell Party would indeed be a splendid event. Contacting former students is easy....it's finding a place to hold a party, getting the money together, finding the caterer, getting the Alcohol License, doing the music, and so on that's the tough part.

I just finished putting together a 20 year union for the Class of 1983. I spent 6 months putting it together, it's a lot of work. And this was only for 1 class!! I can't imagine doing an "All Year's Reunion"!!! I get shivers just thinking about it!! If you have the time, resources, lots of people to help out, and PATIENCE, then you'd be the ideal candidate to host such an event!!! :>)

Tan

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 Re: Farewell Party?
Author: Nellie (---.sympatico.ca)
Date:   06-10-03 21:23

Hi Tania;

We have never met, but I would like very much to pick you brain for ideas seeing that you organized a calss of 83 reunion. I am from the class of '70 and am seriously thinking about organizing a reunion for this class.

Would you mind terribly?

Please let me know.

Thanks,

Nellie

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 Re: Farewell Party?
Author: wayne johnson (---.qc.sympatico.ca)
Date:   06-10-03 21:23

what about an outdoor picnic/party/band that could be held on the fields of R.V.R. Bands are easy to find. Just set a date and contact everyone you know.

wayne johnson

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 Re: Farewell Party?
Author: Nellie (---.sympatico.ca)
Date:   06-10-03 21:24

Hi Tania;

We have never met, but I would like very much to pick you brain for ideas seeing that you organized a calss of 83 reunion. I am from the class of '70 and am seriously thinking about organizing a reunion for this class.

Would you mind terribly?

Please let me know.

Thanks,

Nellie

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 Re: Farewell Party?
Author: Kasey (Karen Cree) Cartwright (---.qc.sympatico.ca)
Date:   06-11-03 20:50

Just to let everyone know that we have not given up on having some kind of a party to send RVR our in style.

Some of us in the office (at RVR) are willing to do the work. Just let us get through the exams, Prom, and subsequent moving and closing of the school. I'll be posting here in early July, at which time I'll be asking for help in contacting people. The concept will be very simple, get as many people together to celebrate the end of an era.

Stay tuned.....

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 Re: Farewell Party?
Author: lindsay nuttall (---.39-201-24.mtl.mc.videotron.ca)
Date:   06-12-03 18:54

hi Tania
Of course it would be great a party
And i would love to help out if there is anythiung i could do juste send me a email and i will get back to you as soon as possible
Lindsay

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 Re: Farewell Party?
Author: Mr. Stinky (---.sympatico.ca)
Date:   06-16-03 00:02

You guys are a bunch of weenies!!!

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 Re: Farewell Party?
Author: Sue Macdonald Feider (---.home.cgocable.net)
Date:   06-16-03 22:15

Mr. Stinky,

In case you haven't noticed we have all graduated and expanded our vocabulary. So I will say to you what I tell my four year old, if you have nothing nice to say, then don't say anything at all. If you can not appreciate the purpose of this website then maybe you should stay off of it.




Tania,

I heard your reunion was a success. Congratulations! I wish I had the guts to take on that kind of project.




Sue

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 Re: Farewell Party?
Author: Tania Fell (---.mediagrif.com)
Date:   06-17-03 08:19

Hi Sue,

I totally agree with your message to "Mr. Stinky". Shame that the guy won't even reveal his real name!!

Who did you speak with about the reunion?

I didn't think that I had the guts to do the reunion, but once you get into the thick of things, it's a lot of fun. Would I do it again?: Ummmm......maybe, just maybe!!

Later!!

Tan

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 Re: Farewell Party?
Author: Dave Walker (142.166.80.---)
Date:   06-17-03 13:22

Karen I look forward to hearing more about the RVR send off Bash, once you get through the exams, Prom, and all that other stuff.


Good luck

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 Re: Farewell Party?
Author: Mr. Stinky (---.c2.ac1.otton1.isp.cyberus.ca)
Date:   06-20-03 15:31

I went to a great school... you dummies went to a weenie school. Too bad you can't handle the truth!!!

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 Re: Farewell Party?
Author: RVR Unknown (216.113.24.---)
Date:   06-20-03 16:13

Mr. Stinky - if you had went to a great school then your attitude would not be like this - you would have more class than us dumb weenies.

You are just out there to P*@ people off and you do catch some......but me on the other hand you don't - I find you humorous and laugh. To me you are the unknown comic......maybe you should put a bag over your head and tell jokes.

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 Re: Farewell Party?
Author: Mr. Stinky (---.sympatico.ca)
Date:   06-25-03 10:24

"if you had went to a great school"

obviously, you didn't learn grammar at your weenie school.

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 Re: Farewell Party?
Author: Tania Fell (---.mediagrif.com)
Date:   06-25-03 11:21

Come on, this is getting ridiculous.

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 Re: Farewell Party?
Author: Lynn MacLeod Morris (---.sympatico.ca)
Date:   06-27-03 09:10

Tania dear, ignore little 'Mr. Stinky'... He obviously has the maturity of a puppy and the inteligence of a farm animal... Like both he'll either grow up or get lost...

Take care, Lynn

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 Re: Farewell Party?
Author: Tania Fell (---.mediagrif.com)
Date:   06-27-03 10:59

Wham!!!! Right on Lynn!!!!!!!!

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