Swamiji – Satsangha - #11Charmarande

(not published)

  1. You said that the path is an infinite process, an endless evolution, yet isn’t the aim of our life to reach the awakening, moksha, liberation; hasn’t the man who is liberated reached the end of the path?

Well, I can only tell you what I know. Because this question relates to something about which I can’t reply, perhaps I do not know.

I do not know where the circle ends, and nobody knows it. Any point is the beginning and any point is the end. It is up to you to postulate.

Evolution is a circle and therefore it is infinite. It is not a straight line. Nirvikalpa samadhi, Nirvana and Moksha, or Kaivalya, are synonymous terms, which indicate a particular achievement in the field of experience.

Something is getting clear in my mind. When you come to the peak of Nirvikalpa Samadhi you get out of this circle and the other circle is not the circle of incarnations, but it is the circle of transcendental reality. There you become a junior God. Junior God here means the coming of the higher force.

When matter is at the lower realm of evolution it is subject to the laws of nature, which are binding upon everybody up to the point of Nirvikalpa Samadhi. Even if you become a siddha, you are still subject to the laws of nature. Or even if you are a great yogi, you are still subject to the laws of nature.

Nature is the great force that controls each and every movement in the entire creation that we know and know not. Nature is known as prakriti and it is twofold; the higher and the lower prakriti. Lower prakriti controls the movement in the nature of creation, whilst higher prakriti controls regeneration, construction, reconstruction, and destruction. Therefore every atom in this existence, every speck in creation is not free from the laws of nature.

In the path of yoga, you initially are more under the control of nature and as you ascend you are trying to avoid, escape, by-pass, the laws of nature. When you are at the realm of nirvikalpa samadhi, you have by and large overcome certain laws of nature, but not all the laws: It is said that not even a jivanmukta is free from the laws of nature.

When one reaches nirvikalpa samadhi and the seed of empirical existence is completely rent asunder he becomes what we know as a videha mukta. Upon becoming a videha mukta you overcome all the laws of prakriti. At this time you become a master of nature and not subservient to nature. Then you are a junior God. You understand who is the senior God?

So I answer your question in my own way.

What is the definition of infinity? Are you imagining infinity in terms of space? If so, then you are making a logical mistake; it is something like saying black is white. Space cannot be infinite, because time, space, and matter are categories of mind. So if space is a category of mind it cannot be infinite. Therefore, infinity must be interpreted as absolute continuity. I am interpreting it in terms of science.

Therefore, evolution does not come to an end; it is a continuous process from one realm to another realm.

When you curdle milk what happens? The milk continues to exist as curd and when the curd and milk is churned it still continues in the form of butter. Milk, curd, and butter are the three stages, but it is the continuity of one substance. It is the same with matter.

When matter is converted into energy, what happens to it? It is a continuity, so therefore there is no end to the process. So in my opinion the end of a cycle is a concept of the mind.

Supposing there is a computer here called the mind. Remove the computer; now find out what is time and what is space. You see we are attempting to define infinity with the finite computer. So, therefore the limitation of the mind must first be rent asunder. If you wish to see bacteria or a microbe you use a microscope. In the same manner, there are certain concepts which cannot be decided at this particular moment of our mental experience. It is necessary to make the mind more capable, more sensitive and efficient.

When you are in nirvikalpa or savikalpa samadhi, when mind has been completely … and you are functioning on the level of spirit, the lower mind having been completely transformed into a super mind; at that time one thing becomes very clear. Infinity is nothing but a continuity in different realms.

These realms are so many that I do not know, except that in nirvikalpa samadhi you split out of the circle and move in another circle. There you are not subject to the laws of nature, because the divinity controls you.

Hari Om Tat Sat.